Question for those who have the TyTN II which originated from overseas (asia)
My incoming calls all have a "+1" in front of them... my guess is that since the phone still thinks its in Taiwan... it thinks these are long distance calls? Are these actually long distance calls and would I get charged for this?
I am from Canada and there is no selection for it in the system setup...
Can anyone shed some light on this?
SHiBBi3 said:
Question for those who have the TyTN II which originated from overseas (asia)
My incoming calls all have a "+1" in front of them... my guess is that since the phone still thinks its in Taiwan... it thinks these are long distance calls? Are these actually long distance calls and would I get charged for this?
I am from Canada and there is no selection for it in the system setup...
Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Ok Let me try and recall how this works back from when I was a CSR for a Cell company.
At least in the US when you dial 555-555-5555 It automagically adds the +1.
That's just the country code.
Now HOW you dial a number means nothing It just routes your call, then the billing system records the calls. (Not and in Cassette Tape record but Puts it to your account) then the billing system compares the info of the call (where to, where from, how long) to your plan.
Like if you need to dial a 1 on a land line you don't have to on a cell phone because they are automagically adding the one, you just can't see it on the phone.
So by it showing you the +1 you won't be charged for Long Distance because you dial +1-555-555-5555 but because your Phone Plan Lacks that.
Hope that clears it up
That's just displaying the country code. I'm sure you using a Rogers or similar SIM card & the phone is using local towers, so there is NO WAY the phone can think it's anywhere. SIM determines the provider, cell towers used determine location.
cool thanks for the clarification
JimmyMcGee said:
Ok Let me try and recall how this works back from when I was a CSR for a Cell company.
At least in the US when you dial 555-555-5555 It automagically adds the +1.
That's just the country code.
Now HOW you dial a number means nothing It just routes your call, then the billing system records the calls. (Not and in Cassette Tape record but Puts it to your account) then the billing system compares the info of the call (where to, where from, how long) to your plan.
Like if you need to dial a 1 on a land line you don't have to on a cell phone because they are automagically adding the one, you just can't see it on the phone.
So by it showing you the +1 you won't be charged for Long Distance because you dial +1-555-555-5555 but because your Phone Plan Lacks that.
Hope that clears it up
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It doesn't always add the 1. Sometimes I've tried to dial a number and I get the "You need to dial a 1 or a zero before making this call" message. I've given up on 7 digit dialing with the cell as well. That rarely works anymore. I have to be in the same area as the exchange I'm dialing, and even then it doesn't always work. In the old days I could 7 digit dial any local number (Local to my cell #) no matter where I was as long as I was not roaming on another carrier's tower. Now even on ATT towers it often forces me to dial the 1 + area code.
-Jay
Jay2TheRescue said:
It doesn't always add the 1. Sometimes I've tried to dial a number and I get the "You need to dial a 1 or a zero before making this call" message. I've given up on 7 digit dialing with the cell as well. That rarely works anymore. I have to be in the same area as the exchange I'm dialing, and even then it doesn't always work. In the old days I could 7 digit dial any local number (Local to my cell #) no matter where I was as long as I was not roaming on another carrier's tower. Now even on ATT towers it often forces me to dial the 1 + area code.
-Jay
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Oh wow 7 digit dialing.... We've been forced to dial 10 digits for 10 years now... I had forgotten about 7 digits.
Let me rephrase then... Most of the time it will add the 1 or +1, but depending on your Cell Service Provider if you call international you have to manually add +(country code) (number).
when roaming and calling a guy just beside one it's a long distance call
the sim is reg'd in a country and all calls outside that country are long distance
dont matter if one call the person beside one in another country
this may vary but if i'm outside of my country and somebody call me i pay for the call from the border and to where i'm located
I've been 10-digit dialing since 1992 here in Philadelphia. I still have the magnet that Bell Atlantic sent out to everyone's house telling them to add the (215) in front.
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I use my nexus one on ATT - in my area, there are two antennas.. ATT's "preferred" antenna which barely gets any signal at all (resulting in dropped calls every couple of minutes), and there's a "roaming" antenna which gives me full signal and works great. The problem is that when I'm on the roaming (good) antenna, the phone gets a tiny bit of signal from the "preferred" (bad) antenna, switches me over then my calls drop.
I had a Palm Treo which had a hack to manually select the antenna I wanted to use, which worked GREAT. Does a similar hack exist for the nexus one/android?
interesting.... didn't know we can select antennas
there should be a way to hack radio module to allow cell tower override, i have exactly same problem. there are three cells around my house, one nearby and two far away. for some stupid reason phone switches to different cell tower and i lose my network.
in battery use, i have cell standby as my biggest battery hog. cell standby over 25%
I'd be willing to pay for this hack.
has anybody ever found a way to do this?? I just moved further out into the country to get away from the city, and i am one tower too far away to be in the local calling area to all my contacts. lol and i know I'm BARELY into the other towers coverage area. So, if i could tell my phone to stay locked on to a particular tower, and actually get a signal (It switches towers when i still have 3 bars of signal, and I live about a mile further down the street from where it switches) I can avoid long distance charges. I haven't been able to find anything anywhere to be able to do it, but I may be using the wrong search terms. I'm not completely up to snuff on most technical terms. Thanks in advance.
I think cell tower hand offs are handled by the networks, not the phone
can anybody confirm this? what antenna on N1???
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I think cell tower hand offs are handled by the networks, not the phone
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U could very well be correct! Sounds logical. I've been exploring a handful of VoIP options that ya can use from your Android/WM device using your Data connection/WiFi.
I spent a bunch of time reading and researching, and just installed one called Nettalk. No local phone number for incoming calls, but the app is free, and u can make calls to anywhere to/from any Canadian area. The app looks just like the regular dialer, and works pretty decent. So, when somebody calls, I'll just select 'reject call with message' (if calling from a cell) and say I'll call rite back, or if calling from a land line, I'll just send it to voicemail and call back and presto... problem solved. There are a few other options available, where u pay anywhere from $5 a month, to $30 a month and you still using your Data/WiFi connection, but u get a local calling number for contacts to call, and doesn't matter where your phone is, it will receive the call free of long distance charges. Problem is, i haven't found any that have the city I'm from in their numbers database. So for now, I'm going to see how this system works out.
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I think cell tower hand offs are handled by the networks, not the phone
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Both the handset and the base station "handle" hand offs. The handset has a programmed minimum signal level, below which it will essentially request a hand off if one is available. The network can switch the handset to another tower for load balancing or other reasons if it determines that the handset (or the carrier's business interests) is better served by another tower. It's a two way system. If the network wants to move you on to another tower, but the phone won't get a lock, you stay on the original tower.
The problem with the OP is that his SIM (which is programmed with carrier preferences) keeps pushing him off roaming and into the actual AT&T network. Basically, AT&T has its network set up so that any level of AT&T signal is preferable to any level of roaming. It does that to save money on roaming costs, since AT&T handles you for free while you're on their system, but has to pay a few cents to have the roaming partner host you.
Maybe
I think Tasks can do that.
samsung has that feature but i have to find for other handsets
I just got back from Toronto, ON and while I was there I needed my phone but didnt want to pay the outrageous roaming charges. So what I did was
Got a Mobilicity Unlimited plan (Special ATM $25, Unlimited province calls, data and text), All you really need is a plan with atleast unlimited (or enough) incoming calls, and a good amount of data. Depending on where you are going, Mobilicity, or Wind Mobile might be a good choice,. if you are visiting a Populated Canadian city.
Next since Google Voice calling (using plan minutes, not Groove IP style) does not work in Canada directly, I got a Skype Number(must be a US number) and unlimited US and Canada calling plan
Now I set this new Skype number to forward calls to my Mobilicity number in Canada (local 647 area code Toronto Number)
I then added my U.S.A Skype number to my Google Voice account.
Next I installed this app on my phone Voice+ (Google Voice callback) , this app basically uses Google Voice, to process a call, but it first rings your number that you set, then when you answer it calls the number you wanted to call.
So what is happening here is,
You dial a number on your phone, the Voice callback app intercepts the request
Voice callback app uses Google Voice to ring your skype number
The Skype number than forwards the call to your Local number from the country you are in.
You then answer the call (will show your google voice number.
Once you answer it would dial and call the number you first requested. It takes else than 10 seconds to be on the phone ringing the number you want.
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People can also reach you by calling your google voice or skype number (and if they are in the US it would save them long distance charged). If they call those it will forward and ring your new local country number
Than of course you can use Google Voice to text as well.
Some might say, why not just get a data plan and use Groove IP. While that could work, you need a fast and reliable data connection for that to work, this method uses your actually plans minutes not data to call. If you are going to be on wifi the majority of the time and don;t constantly need your phone Groove IP or similar might be a better idea.
I just thought I would share this for all those who might be interested. This was very handy while I was visiting. And could theoretically work in any country that you get a plan with atleast unlimited(or enough) incoming calls (i have seen plans with limited outgoing, but unlimited incoming calls, and a good amount of data (for texting via google voice, etc).
Thanks for the tip.. Would save lot of money while calling my people..
Nice to see u here bpear (hi from HTC one X thread )
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My contacts don't show the +1..only when making phone calls. Is this due to me having my cellular network set to global and it auto adds this?
StrangeTimes said:
My contacts don't show the +1..only when making phone calls. Is this due to me having my cellular network set to global and it auto adds this?
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1 is the country code for USA. Your contacts dont have the 1 because you probably didnt put them in there. When you dont input a country code, it is assumed you are calling within the country.
The number 1 was originally used, way back when landlines were the rage,lol, as a way for the phone company to know that you were making a toll call, whether it be out of the subscribed local calling area in the same area code or calling to a different area code, as well as the country code for making an international call to the US.
This thread makes me feel old
I work for a firm with an international calling card I use to make overseas calls, so many of my calls from my cell have commas with speed dialing account numbers, etc... therefore the phone numbers end up being about 44 digits (to call India for example). This has come in very handy. However, if I have Advanced Calling turned on, for many of those stored phone numbers in my phone, for almost all of them my phone will dial the number but nothing after the first comma. If I have several commas in a row (each of which means a 1 second delay), the SOMETIMES the phone will recognize there are additional numbers to dial and will continue on. Therefore to reliably be able to make these calls, I have to turn OFF advanced calling altogether, or else the calls will not work on my phone. Has anyone else run into this issue and what did they do to get around this issue to be able to continue to use advanced calling to save the battery?
Nobody?
Try the letter p instead of a comma.
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Thanks for the tip but the keyboards won't let me put any letters in there. I tried to copy and paste letters into there but the paste operation doesn't work...
KruseLudsMobile said:
I work for a firm with an international calling card I use to make overseas calls, so many of my calls from my cell have commas with speed dialing account numbers, etc... therefore the phone numbers end up being about 44 digits (to call India for example). This has come in very handy. However, if I have Advanced Calling turned on, for many of those stored phone numbers in my phone, for almost all of them my phone will dial the number but nothing after the first comma. If I have several commas in a row (each of which means a 1 second delay), the SOMETIMES the phone will recognize there are additional numbers to dial and will continue on. Therefore to reliably be able to make these calls, I have to turn OFF advanced calling altogether, or else the calls will not work on my phone. Has anyone else run into this issue and what did they do to get around this issue to be able to continue to use advanced calling to save the battery?
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44 digits?? i am from India, from what i know you can call from US to INDIA mobile with 13 digits & to a landline 14 digits..!!
I call an 800 number, then the full India phone number, then the calling card account number, all with numerous commas in between to make it work, etc... anybody have any ideas on how to make the advanced calling work with this?
Anybody have any ideas? Nothing?
I recently changed to H2O, which is an AT&T reseller for those who are unfamiliar, and I'm having a very peculiar problem.
When I go to make a call, as soon as I tap the green button to make the call, sometimes my signal drops to 0 bars and I can't make the call. Sometimes this happens repeatedly and it's impossible to call anyone. But sometimes the call will go through after the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th try. However, sometimes it drops to emergency calls only after the call fails, or sometimes it drops to no service.
Additionally, when I go to change the conditional call forwarding under dialer - settings - calls - call forwarding, as soon as I tap call forwarding, the signal bars vanish and I get a call settings error. This happens almost all of the time. And again, sometimes it will drop to emergency calls only, or a several times I've had it drop to no service.
When I give up trying to make a call or change call forwarding settings, the signal strength will return after a minute or so, which is currently fluxuating around -112 dBm 28 asu, -116 dBm 24 asu, 110 dBm 30 asu. Not sure what any of that means though.
Frequently, incoming calls do not reach my phone. Often I'll get a text message asking me why I'm not answering my phone, but it never rang. There's no indication that my phone was out of service as there is always at least one bar.
I can send text messages with no problem at all. My data also works just fine. In fact, one of my friends gave up calling my phone number and instead calls me on WhatsApp because that's the only way he can get a hold of me. He would call my number, have it fail, and then immediately call me on WhatsApp and that goes through because my data doesn't usually have any issues.
I've tried changing APN settings according to different information I got from H2O. I've tried changing the preferred network type to 3G and 2G. Changing to 2G seems to help my ability to make calls, or maybe it just seemed that way. I've contacted H2O numerous times about it. They opened multiple tickets on it and finally said that there's no problem on their end getting service on that sim card. I sorta verified this because the sim card doesn't display this problem in my 1st gen Moto X, an XT1053.
Two other people in my house are on the AT&T network, one on Cricket with a Galaxy S6 (G920AZ), and one on H2O with a Galaxy S3 (T999) and they never have any issues here at home or elsewhere.
My phone is an XT1095 pure edition. I run stock 6.0, 24.11.18.victara_tmo.tmo.en.US, kernel 3.4.42-g389e46b, rooted, TWRP, with no apps that modify call behavior except Google Voice which is set to never use GV to make calls. This phone worked flawlessly on several different T-Mobile resellers. I'm about to switch back to another T-Mobile reseller but I thought I'd post here about this strange issue first because I don't want to always be limited to the T-Mobile network.
Any advice or input is greatly appreciated.