Heads up! O2 charges per mb when using internet sharing app. - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading

Just a heads up for all you guys on O2 with the unlimited (yeah, right) web bolt on.
Was browsing thru my online bill today and i've racked up charges for data usage. It's not too expensive (average GBP7 per 100mb) but it's still a charge nonetheless for a service that should be covered by the damn bolt-on.
The strange thing is, the charges only seem to happen when i'm using the internet sharing app on my hima (and have it connected to my laptop via USB). However, when i'm browsing thru PIE on the XDA, there are no charges at all.
I'm wondering...if the internet sharing app essentially just provides a gateway between the phone and my laptop, how does O2 know to charge me for just PC browsing but not phone browsing?
Anyone have any ideas?

internet sharing
glad I saw your post, what software n settings are you using? I need to get laptop xda sharing working, im with orange £1 for the day unlimited but can't get the sharing workin

I'm using the standard internet sharing application (found in the start menu>programs section) that came with my ROM.
To get GPRS/3G settings, go to start menu>settings>connections and run the Network Wizard application. It'll ask you whether you want to autoconfigure for orange. Select yes and let it do it's thing.
Once you've done that, fire up the internet sharing application.
PC Connection: select USB
Network Connection: select the GPRS connection
Then connect your XDA to your computer (i use the docking cradle) and voila.
I'm also on Windows Vista Ultimate. Basically it was a case of doing the above and nothing else. Vista automatically realised what my phone was trying to do and gave me internet access straightaway. I'm not sure if XP'll do the same.
Good luck

internet sharing
yep all working now and only a quid day and no extras charges on orange

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Problems with Internet Sharing on ATT Tilt

Hi -- I'm trying to use my ATT Tilt to share internet with my Axim x51v. It _seems_ to be working: I run Internet Sharing on the Tilt ("Bluetooth Pan", "MEdia Net") and connect to its "Network Access Point" via Bluetooth from the x51v.
It seems to connect properly, but the connection is extremely slow: Internet Explorer will sit on "locating" for about 15 seconds for each page I try to load, then load pages at just a few K per minute. This despite my running an HSDPA internet connection on the Tilt. Does anyone have any idea why this would be so slow? Is there a better way to use the 3G-enabled Tilt to get a high-speed internet connection to my x51v?
Thanks!
Alan
your bottle neck is probable the bluetooth. i would suggest you go get WmWifiRouter, i love it and its really fast even on EDGE.
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
Free version found here: http://freewarepocketpc.org/2008/communication/wmwifirouter-v089-turn-phone-into-accesspoint
Works great but no encryption and it's a battery hog.
they want me to pay for "tethering"
Up until a month ago, I had the 8525 from at&t. it had internet sharing pre-loaded on it, and the program worked exceptionally well. Unfortunately, my 8525's lcd started whiting out and I ended up getting it warranty replaced with a tilt. to my dismay, I couldn't find the program for internet sharing. after a little digging, I found that the program was still there, but that at&t had hidden it.
Since finding the program, however I have been unable to get it to work.
I connect via usb cable, and I hit connect. The tilt connects to MEdiaNet, but then when I try to open ie on my notebook, I am unable to connect. Then, when I check the connection in the networking and sharing center on the notebook, it tells me that the network I'm currently connected to is local only.
I called At&t for help with this, and they tell me now that there's an additional charge for "tethering" and asked if I would like to upgrade to it.
is there a rom that would allow me to use the internet sharing?

WM6.1 & Internet Sharing (on a Diamond)

This is probably a very specific issue that I'm experiencing but hopefully someone out there can help me.
I recently got an HTC Touch Diamond, running WM6.1. I use Internet Sharing on the phone and then connect it to my PC via a USB cable. I can then browse the web from my PC. If I now connect to my office VPN, it seems that the connection times out and / or is very slow. I can't even browse to other PC's on the network via the VPN connection as it times out. But I can ping the PC's so I know I'm definatly on the network.
Now I know what everyone is thinking... our VPN might be screwy. But if I use someone else in the office's phone (running WM6.0) I can connect and there is no problem whatsoever. The only difference is that he is on a different service provider than me (and of course a different phone).
I used to have a SE M600i before this phone and it worked perfectly on that (same service provider as now).
Has anyone experienced anything simular? Or have any ideas what I could check?
I've played around abit and found the following: When I take my SIM card and put it into another HTC running WM6.0 (can't remember the model) it works perfectly and I can browse our intranet sites over the VPN. So the problem is definatly limited to my phone.
I also used Internet Sharing on the other phone and then established the VPN connection from my laptop. I didn't change any of the settings so it is 100% the same on both phones as download from the service provider upon insertion of the SIM card.
On my phone when I'm connected to the VPN I can browse the network shares and download email, but as soon as I try and browse our intranet websites or try to connect to any database (using TOAD etc.) it doesn't seem to be able to retrieve data. Almost like the phone is not able to handle large amounts of data coming through... (i'm just guessing here)
Anyone know of any setting somewhere on the phone that could cause this to happen?
Finally got this working!!
I'm now using WMWiFiRouter to use my phone as a WiFi router and then connect to the internet from my pc. If I then connect to the VPN from my PC everything works fine.
I'm not sure if WMWiFiRouter implements Internet Connection Sharing differently than the normal ICS app on the phone, but it seems to work and it's pretty fast.
Can't believe it took two months - with absolutely no else seeming to have this issue - but I'm glad it's over now!!
hschutte said:
Can't believe it took two months - with absolutely no else seeming to have this issue - but I'm glad it's over now!!
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i do. i cant even connect to the vpn, and using wmwifirouter the wifi button in comm manager is always switching to on.. even in flight mode !
so you're not alone in this one...

Using the internet on my computer via X1

Hey guys, I am not sure how this works, but technically it should be doable.
I know with the iphone, you can sync it with you computer to make it a modem for the internet, just wonder how do I do it for my X1?
Obviously, I know how to do it with being charged by my network provider, but I don't wanna do it. So basically, I want to find a way that I can sycn my X1 with my laptop, so I get to use the Internet on my laptop via my X1 without paying anything extra. (my mobile contract comes with a unlimited web data plan)
Hope I am making some sense.
Thanks a lot
First things first, You've posted in the wrong forum, this should have been in the general section.
Secondly if you' d done a search you would have found the answer.
But anyway, it's very simple: Plug the phone in via USB open up your programs on the phone, scroll down to the one called 'Internet sharing' press and follow the instructions.
You PC (If it's windows) should ask you if you want to use the new connection, and off you go
Thanks, but I know how to do this with paying extra to my network provider, but I know there is a way of doing it without paying extra.
P the Photographer said:
Thanks, but I know how to do this with paying extra to my network provider, but I know there is a way of doing it without paying extra.
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Huh? You have stated that you have an unlimited data package with your cellphone provider.
Hence if you use this method they will not charge you as it's using the phone as a modem over it's own 3G network.
U sure? coz when I took out the phone, I asked the very same question, and I was told if I use the data on my phone, then it is unlimited access, but if I link it with a computer, they will be able to tell as it will show the data is through a computer not the handset, and they will charge me certain amount per MB. I take it you are in the UK with O2? Coz I am the same.
THJahar said:
Huh? You have stated that you have an unlimited data package with your cellphone provider.
Hence if you use this method they will not charge you as it's using the phone as a modem over it's own 3G network.
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Yeah, I am a little bit confused too... but probably I need some clarifications: you want that your pc shares Internet with your X1 or the opposite?
I mean, which device has the internet connection you want to share, your laptop or your X1?
EDIT: uhm, after your 6:57 post I am more confused than before. I actually do not think they can tell which device is using the data downloaded by your X1... however, this is my opinion.
in my program menu i have an icon called "condivisione internet", i think that in english will appear as "internet sharing". from this menu you can start the internet connection and share it by the usb cable or bluetooth.
i also install a program called WMWifiRouter, that transform my x1 in a wi-fi router and use the wi-fi connection to share the internet.
one thing....iphone doesn't have an official modem driver, you have to jailbreak it and install a third part application
wizard84 said:
i also install a program called WMWifiRouter, that transform my x1 in a wi-fi router and use the wi-fi connection to share the internet.
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WMWiFirouter rulez !!
I even removed my ADSL contracts and am using the Xperia's HSDPA connection at home and office - amazing speed and flawless connection
Impressive
NO WAY you can do this with an iPhone or T-MO G1
I love this phone a bit more everyday
I want to cut the internet on my computer so I can use the package I get from my X1 on both my laptop and X1 itself. Trying to save some money I am. I see what you guys are saying, but as I said, I was told by O2 if use my X1 as a modem for my laptop, then I will be charged on a MB basis, which is extremely expensive. They specifically told me they can tell when and what sites I have been on using whether my phone or on a computer. Which I think it makes sense in a way, coz otherwise, everyone would be cutting off their Internet at home and start using their mobiles as modems (if they have as nice phone as ours). Unless all these from O2 is a bluff.
So did my friend do some dodgy thing to make his iphone Internet works on his computer then?
Sorry guy if I am confusing the matter as I am confused myself, any further help greatly appreciated. And do forgiver my English!
PS - Would this work with my Mac? I don't have a PC, I could buy the MissSync, but not sure how good it will work and quite expensive.
Maybe your "unlimited data plan" on your phone is about wap traffic? Than O2 is right and you are gonna pay a lot for the regular shared net connection. Check this with them.
Just my opinion!
Well I think the simplest way to sort this is do a test.
Just use the shared internet connection facility for a couple of days then stop.
If your next bill comes with a charge attached then they are right, if not they are talking BS and you can carry on.
p.s. I'd like to know if this is true as well as i'm with O2
Better for a couple of minutes! Using a internet connection w/out a data plan will dry his pocket out as a day in Sahara. Don't try this at home!
WMWifirouter is definitely worth a try.
With T-mobile I've got unlimited data on the phone, but it does not permit tethering (using the connection for a laptop or other computer), but with WMWifirouter, it routes it through a program on the phone, so it can be shared.
Brilliant bit of software, worth paying for, even if just for emergencies (e.g. at a friend's house, they have no internet but have laptop, and you want to show them a stupid youtube video... it's serious stuff).
unlimited data plan is not real unlimited, its just enough to last a month with on your phone.
btw phone companies are bluffing because they also say they can see if you are calling via skype instead of the normal cellular radio....
DavidMc0 said:
WMWifirouter is definitely worth a try.
With T-mobile I've got unlimited data on the phone, but it does not permit tethering (using the connection for a laptop or other computer), but with WMWifirouter, it routes it through a program on the phone, so it can be shared.
Brilliant bit of software, worth paying for, even if just for emergencies (e.g. at a friend's house, they have no internet but have laptop, and you want to show them a stupid youtube video... it's serious stuff).
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If you use tmobile in the UK, I would imagine your unlimited data would be similar to mine since they are both in the UK.
I guess I will give the WMWifirouter a good and see what will happen if I get on the Internet for a few mintues and maybe increase my time bit by bit...
Thanks for all the replies and sure will keep you guys updated with the results, if my X1 doesn't sell on ebay. Nothing wrong with that, just being a Mac computer person and having a WiMo is a little... weird... but don't jump on me, I love the X1 and it's great!!!!
Hi there,
Connect your laptop to the X1 with a USB cable. Start the computer.
Tap
Start > Programs > Tools > Internet Sharing.
Select USB & Contract Internet then Tap connect at the bottom of the screen.
Open your browser and it should be working. You need a very good mobile signal to get any speed out of it.
Hope this helps.
Is there any way to use my PC internet connection on my X1i with Bluetooth?
i'm sure there is
all the best
my home broadband was down for a week a few days ago. used my x1 using the internet connection sharing app. for it to work i had to remove the ethernet cable from the pc. but once i did it was fine.
and voda didnt charge me anything as i have the unlimited internet included.
problem was i dont like in a 3g area so it was back to 8kb/s speeds. pain, but a lot better than nothing!
---ronin. in the internet sharing application there is an option to connect via bluetooth. try that.
thanks James but i've already tried that but i couldn't manage it
actually when i select Bluetooth pan then i should select a network but there is no network connection to select
can any body help me find a solution?
all the best
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Internet Sharing via wifi

Hi there
My Laptop does not have wireless and I am trying to use my Touch Diamond to connect to the wireless at uni so that I can browse the internet on my laptop at uni. I am having two problems figuring this out.
I can connect to the wireless on my diamond at uni to the work connection like the instructions tell me to. But I cannot seem to use this connection to browse the internet. I am not sure what I am doing wrong.
The next issue I have is that if I start the internet sharing tool I only have two options for the connection to share. The first is Telstra internet and the second is Telstra MMS I do not want to use these connections as i am on prepaid and all my credit would be gone in less than a minute.
I hope someone can give me some ideas as to what I am missing in this setup.
Thanks
Telstra Internet
I have now set the internet connection back to telstra but it doesn't want to load the telstra home page anymore. That is why I gave up last time. I wish I could use wifi when I have it and browse the free sites when I don't Telstra is very annoying.
Information
Hello, soon im gonna write a small guide as to how to use your phone incondunction with a router to allow all devices connected to the router to connect via the mobile phones internet connection. I understand that this is not what your askings as from my experence you will not be able to what your are asking. But if you have a unlimited data allowence then this would be a good option.
you need a router
you need wireless on your laptop (dongle/built in)
and some minor knowledge on setting up networks manually
keep your eyes out for the thread.
regards Vic
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Hi there
My Laptop does not have wireless and I am trying to use my Touch Diamond to connect to the wireless at uni so that I can browse the internet on my laptop at uni. I am having two problems figuring this out.
I can connect to the wireless on my diamond at uni to the work connection like the instructions tell me to. But I cannot seem to use this connection to browse the internet. I am not sure what I am doing wrong.
The next issue I have is that if I start the internet sharing tool I only have two options for the connection to share. The first is Telstra internet and the second is Telstra MMS I do not want to use these connections as i am on prepaid and all my credit would be gone in less than a minute.
I hope someone can give me some ideas as to what I am missing in this setup.
Thanks
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try to use wmwifirouter - it can use phones wireless and BT/USB connection to pc it will be a router for pc
Unsure
Thanks for your ideas although I might not have made myself clear.
The laptop does not have wireless. And I do not want to use the data connection on my phone as that will cost a fortune.
I wanted to get my phone to connect to the uniwireless and then allow my laptop to connect to the uni wireless for free internet via the phone.
I think I might just give up and buy a usb adaptor for the laptop.
Cheers
wmwifirouter does this !
Thanks
Oh ok, well I would have a look but i don't want to pay for it so im not going to try, especially as every time i have touched my network setup my free browsing stops working.
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GUIDE! your diamond or other wm6.1 device as the main internet access via your router

Hello This guide is made up from the knowledge i have build up from advice given on XDA and information on other sites.
I have found this very useful in my home and hope you do to.
First off, this guide explains everything you need to do to use your diamond as the access point to the internet at home for all devices. (PC's, PS3, XBOX360, Wii)
It is highly recommended that you have a unlimited data allowance!!!!! Otherwise you could have a hefty bill at the end of the month.
Right what you will need :
A Diamond with an unlimited data allowance tariff,
A WiFi router (i have used an old router that was installed with Tiscali BB)
WMWifiRouter version 0.80 (please find this your self i will not provide it)
and some basic knowledge of networking on PC's and your devices.
Thats it. Please don't be put off by the networking side of things its really easy to do.
Right first off we need to get your diamond taking to your router.
switch on your router and let it do its thing for 2-4 mins
Connect your diamond to the wifi router by switching on your wifi in settings, communications on touchflow, when prompted, connect to your router and enter your network key.
THIS IS THE SAME PROCESS AS CONNECTING TO A WIFI HOTSPOT.
Its that simple.
Next switch off your wifi in settings, communications.
Install WMWifiRouter version 0.80 (Simple and stable)
once installed open WMWifiRouter and press connect.
This should then setup your phone to be used as a access point and connect to your wireless network all at once.
Once it says connected you can turn off your phones main screen by pressing the off switch at the top and put your phone where there is best signal! HSDPA is needed to get up 7.2mbps (little H in signal area)
Right now you need to setup your laptop or device to talk to the phone via your router!
So here are the settings you need to setup in either TCP/IP (manual connection) or a manual connection on your device (PS3, Wii, XBOX360).
I will use a laptops connection as a example because all you need to do is to copy the settings to another device using a different IP address.
If you use wifi or a hardwired connection, right click the telly with the wifi connection in the bottom right of the screen and click open network connections (XP only dont know for vista), Or if the telly is not displayed in the bottom righthand cornner of the task bar then click start, control panel, network connections.
Click on the connection you wish to use i.e local area connection or wireless network connection (you can setup both connections by repeating these steps on each connection)
this should bring up a general tab of this connection, click properties.
This will bring up another box with the network properties, all you need to do is manually enter your IP settings and DNS settings so double click on "internet protocol [TCP/IP]"
Another box appears.
Click "use the following IP address"
In IP address type "192.168.0.xxx" xxx being the unique 3 digit code of your choice, write this down for your firewall settings on other devices if you run a networked drive etc. Each new device will need its own unique 3 digit code ie PC = 192.168.0.100, XBOX360 = 192.168.0.200, Wii = 192.168.0.123 etc.
In Subnet mask type "255.255.255.0"
In Default gate way type "192.168.0.1
Now click "Use the following DNS server address"
In preferred DNS server type "192.168.0.1"
Thats it, press ok and ok on any other boxes still left open.
Your network device will rest your IP and DNS settings to the ones you have just entered, thus allowing you computer to access the mobiles phones internet connection via your router
On all your devices Manually setup all your connections using these settings and they will all use your mobile phone to connect to the internet.
Using DHCP to configure your network is not advised as its unreliable at finding your phones connection.
Now if you want to start using your phone as a phone again, open up WMWifiRouter again if its not already and click options Quit.
To get internet access on other devices via your phone again all you need to do is to start WMWifiRouter and press connect. Start using the internet!!!
If you wish to use your laptop on another hotspot, you will need to reset the TCP/IP settings back to automatic, otherwise it will not work.
Using this process sometimes causes the phone to disable its own internet connection, so a soft reset after exiting WMWifiRouter is recommended.
Have fun, im sorry if its all a little messy but i have never been very good at writing these guides.
If any modd wants to add or edit this post then please feel free. any persons wanting to add to this guide please do so.
Yes i know you can connect your phone to your laptop by USB, Bluetooth, but this method allows multiple devices to use the same phone to access the internet at the same time and via a access point at the highest possible speed, so games consoles can use it!!! Brilliant if you get a good HSDPA signal and live in the country.
Oh one last thing! if you are a youngster and wish to try this, please do so on other equipment, don't use your family's main router and laptop or PC unless its no longer in use!!!
Thank You
i haven't tried it myself but thanks for posting the guide.
Cheers
Thanks for reading
Its does work, In my home i no longer have a land line or cable broadband i just have one bill a month which is my phone bill of £41 including insurance on my device and i get every thing, i have saved my self a fortune per year doing this, that was my reason anyway hehe L8rs
mgs333 said:
i haven't tried it myself but thanks for posting the guide.
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I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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Thank you good luck with the move
kaos_king said:
I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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kaos_king said:
I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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Because the data going through the phone will really heat up the phone, as a side benefit you'll be able to use it as both a heater, and a stove until your appliances are hooked up.
Just how many torrents does it take to boil 1 cup of water?
I tried out wmwifirouter with my laptop and I must say it's quite slow compared to connecting the phone with USB and using internet sharing, any clue why? Nice guide btw, will be used when needed
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your are correct, if you use WMWfiRouter directly with with your computer it does seem slow and you also get a lot of drop outs as well for that reason i stopped using months ago and was using bluetooth edr. But using this method respose times are much much quicker (to be honest i dont know why) and it is just as fast as using with USB, i know i have tested it. Im on orange UK, i get constant 1.6mbps down and 360kbps up with two bars connected the HSDPA network.
Im using it right now to reply to this thread, i got rid of my land lane and broadband connection because this is that stable and fast!
As for heating issues (poster above) once its connected and you turn off the screen, i have never had a issue. i even keep it in its HTC pouch in case it falls of the shelf its on lol.
The only problem i have come across which is more of a annoyance than anything is that when someone phones you it can slow your connection not always though, a soft reset fixes the issue.
Any more questions feel free.
chribruu said:
I tried out wmwifirouter with my laptop and I must say it's quite slow compared to connecting the phone with USB and using internet sharing, any clue why? Nice guide btw, will be used when needed
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