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Send text using data plan, send text using internet.

PLease i just realised that i was still getting charged for sending text messages, even though i have tha total intertnet plan from tmobile.
I was just wondering if anyone knows of a program that would let me send text messages bypassing the cellular network, and using my internet,(be it wifi or edge or gprs) to carry the messages.
Kinda like when you use your computer to send texts to phones, is there a program for windows mobile?
thank you in advance

I believe there are a few websites out there to send messages with, tmobile used to have a public SMS application, however I am unsure of any method of "relaying" an SMS message through the included pocket outlook sms handler to one of those sites transparently.

thank you. I still will be awaiting answers.

moyofalaye said:
thank you. I still will be awaiting answers.
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one approach might be to use an email server to bounce the messages to sms email addresses.
say you use the email side of the messaging app, either through synching to exchange or through a pop, imap or whatever, and point the email at the sms address, I forget what the tmobile address is, but for example it would be like [email protected]
I guess that semi solves the problem without any programming, you would just need each carrier's email address, and specify a return address that would go to your phone for when they SMS back.

CaptDistraction said:
moyofalaye said:
thank you. I still will be awaiting answers
previous:H6315(hell in gadget form), Tmo original xda PPCPE.
CaptDistraction, you need to be creative about the 6315; I gave mine to my wife when I upgraded to to 8125. Got rid of the memory hogs and you can't imagine how our relationship has improved, we now talk about the same techy stuff; she complaing, I fixing by the way she no longer complains about how much time I spend with my phone, cause she's now doing the same. Now we have no time to talk to each other...... :twisted:
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Haha, I tried every rom out there, I kept the device for a while and finally sold it to support the MDA purchase.
Man I messed with that 6315 to no end, had so much stuff going on with it trying different app combos, spent hours in the registry, no matter how simple I kept it, I couldn't ever get it to answer calls in a timely fashion.
My biggest love with the MDA is when you press that green answer button, it immediately picks up the call.

Can anyone answer this???

I have an AT&T Tilt unlocked and am using it for T-Mobile. The phone works great with the exception of a few things. What do I need to do in order for my Internet and MMS messages to work?
Also does anyone know of any shortcut for text messaging? It seems that you have to go through so many steps to start a text.
Thanks!

settings are different with other carriers
I am not exactly sure what settings would have to be changed to make the internet work but I know I have read it a few times for different ROMS, I just didn't need the advice since mine works. Search the forums and find out what TMobile runs off of. As far as how quick it takes to get to texts, you can change a key to them and there are a ton of programs that offer shortcuts.

for MMS the setttings need to be:
Server name: T-Mobile MMS
Gateway: 216.155.165.50
Port Number: 8080
server address: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
connect via: T-mobile MMS
Wap version: WAP 2.0
for the internet go to connection settings and for the connection name enter
T-mobile Data
access point name: wap.voicestream.com
user name and password leave blank

thanks for the quick response. Where exactly do I go to enter this information?
thanks again

Mms/gprs/internet/wap Settings
If you need any settings for your device go here most helpfull
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html

carter8838 said:
If you need any settings for your device go here most helpfull
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
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Thank you for the link

it also depends on which internet plan u have? if its the 5.99 tzones plan, its a little more difficult to set up, let me know if u have that one and i'll tell u how.. if ur using the 19.99 plan, simply go to settings-->connections-->connection setup, and set it up for tmobile USA. it'll also set up ur mms at the same time. good luck
omar

oh wait... ur using the tilt rom... thats probably NOT gonna be there... i'd advise u to flash to a different rom.. sorry

Hi,
to speed up your textmessaging you can copy the files tnsms(for SMS) or tnmms (for MMS) for the windowsdirectory in your startupfolder.
These files open a new SMS or MMS an you wont have to do many steps.
Then you have possibility to choose these applications in your buttonapplication, where you can assign applications to buttons.

yes i have th 5.99 plan can you still help?

sms settings on tilt
Sorry mms settings......
Does anyone know where these are ?

my buddy is on tmobile and it took me a good day to figure out the correct settings... I honestly don't understand why tmobiles mms settings are so hard to setup while atts is really easy

hey, just as a warning, i was never able to get the 5.99 settings to work on the original tilt rom, and another user on this forum also never got it to work. the 19.99 internet works fine on the tilt rom. dunno its weird. however when i flashed over to a different rom, it worked no problems.
1- go to connections, and add new connection cellular line, gprs 3G, call it whatever you want
2- access point name: wap.voicestream.com, leave the next one blank and then finish.
3- now click on manage existing connections, click on proxy settings on the bottom right tab
4. make sure both boxes are checked, and enter 216.155.165.50 as the proxy server.
5- click on advanced, and double click on http: and change the port to 8080. leave everything else the same. ok out to the original connections settings screen.
6- click on the advanced tab on the bottom. click on select networks and set both of them to my work network
thats it.. IE should work now no problems, and set any pop3 email accounts to connect to my work network. good luck
omar

i have no idea how to flash to a new rom. Is this something that you think i can do easily and without ruining my phone?

I am running into the same issue too, no MMS, but Internet works good on the 5.99, so i am really wanting the MMS to work.. I hope i dont have to have the $19.99 to have it to work.. that would suck! HELP!!!

Enable data only on certain programs?

Hello,
I have done a search for this and couldnt find a direct answer so I figure ill ask here, it could also help others.
My situation is this, I am currently with att and have unlimited texting (including MMS and instant messengers). The thing is, I do not pay for a data plan as I rely on wifi since I have hotspots everywhere (being from los angeles).
I disabled my data connection so that my kaiser would not accidentally or automatically use my data connection, but in doing this, I cannot send/recieve MMS, nor can I use instant messenging programs as they use little bits of data.
My question is this: Is there a way to keep data disabled but only have it enabled for certain programs? If this cannot be done, is it possible to keep data enabled, but only have it disabled on certain programs?
THanks in advance for any help you guys have!

does anybody have any input on this? I would really like to know about this because I feel crippled....are there possibly programs that allow access control of programs?

Im guessing that this is not possible then? Im going to let this die and stay unresolved after this bump...would appreciate some input...

For me.. in HK.. the case you have experienced will be handled by the mobile operator which they have an "Proxy" which only allowed certain program to access .. or not program.. but may be the URL.. then different Internet Profile can be set in your PDA in order to access different URL..
So.. I don't know whether ATT will got any similar Proxy available..

Does anyone with AT&T know about this proxy which I can set up to allow only a select few programs to access my data connection?

im sure somebody knows something that could help me with this problem? I want to keep DATA disabled for programs that use it except for MMS and Instant Messaging programs that use Text Messages (because small data is required)....

maybe a software firewall for the pda would be the way to go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=246102&highlight=firewall

intersting, and Id be able to control which programs have access to my data connection?
ill check it out! any other input? thanks in advance!

Rudegar said:
maybe a software firewall for the pda would be the way to go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=246102&highlight=firewall
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so i just tried that firewall and its not what im looking for unfortunately......
any other suggestions? i would really really like to use MMS and instant messanging on my phone w/o having to pay for a data plan.....and i also want to make use of my unlimited text messaging, thank you!

Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS)

Hello. I got cingular 8125 with faria crossbow ROM. I just recently start using messaging (sms) on it. sms working fine, but I have tried to receive mms, I got it in my inbox, but when I try to download it nothing happens or maybe I’m looking in wrong place for downloaded pictures and videos. There is it downloading it? When i send mms nothing happened, nobody receives them. Any advices?
I appreciate any help in advance.

chertik said:
Hello. I got cingular 8125 with faria crossbow ROM. I just recently start using messaging (sms) on it. sms working fine, but I have tried to receive mms, I got it in my inbox, but when I try to download it nothing happens or maybe I’m looking in wrong place for downloaded pictures and videos. There is it downloading it? When i send mms nothing happened, nobody receives them. Any advices?
I appreciate any help in advance.
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Did you try configuring your MMS according to your Operator's Settings?? You first need to configure your MMS settings while its not that wih your SMS so first try configuring ur MMS pls. TC

chertik said:
Hello. I got cingular 8125 with faria crossbow ROM. I just recently start using messaging (sms) on it. sms working fine, but I have tried to receive mms, I got it in my inbox, but when I try to download it nothing happens or maybe I’m looking in wrong place for downloaded pictures and videos. There is it downloading it? When i send mms nothing happened, nobody receives them. Any advices?
I appreciate any help in advance.
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Probably your MMS account is missing the right configuration.
Please tell us what's your operator?
Maybe someone local can give you the right MMS settings.

it is cingular or new at&t now.
thanks

im not sure where mms setings are, too...

Excuse me my stupidity, but apparently I have to have internet hooked up to my phone aka data plan. Well I didn’t know that , so scratch my question.
Thank you all for help.

chertik said:
Excuse me my stupidity, but apparently I have to have internet hooked up to my phone aka data plan. Well I didn’t know that , so scratch my question.
Thank you all for help.
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You should not need to have a data plan for mms, just for data. they charge you for text and mms separately from data, right?
What you need is to search: "network wizard cab" Or "HTC Connection Setup" (which is HUGE and unnessesary in my opinion). Faria did not cook that into the rom. I do not think it was available then. It configures data and MMS settings in just about all the new roms.

sorry i took me so long to try it and ansver. so i got network wizard cab and instoled it to my phone, mms gose wright to my ssm, geves me a link to download, but when i try to download it i get error mesage.
any ideas?

is there special network wizard cab for every phone, or it works for all of them?

error mesge:
A networking error(0x1501)has occerred.
This colud be cased by a voice call, a wired
ActiveSync connection, or some other
network problem. Plesee try again.

Is it possible to have working MMS over WiFi?

Hi I don't have a data plan and I got a picture message I want to view..is it possible to download it throught wifi somehow since I don't have a data plan? If so, how? Thank you so much in advance!

why don't you try and find out for yourself? xD
just get wifi?

why don't you try and find out for yourself? xD
just get wifi?

phamous said:
why don't you try and find out for yourself? xD
just get wifi?
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....I've clearly tried that, but MMS doesn't work on WiFi hence my asking...

isikh said:
....I've clearly tried that, but MMS doesn't work on WiFi hence my asking...
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I'm sure there isn't. But I'm pretty sure you don't need a data plan. My old RAZR did it just fine without a data plan. I know from experience that you can't send or receive mms over wifi

MMS is solely and OTA event. You also do not need a data plan to view an MMS. You do, however, need the proper settings in your phone before it will DL a MMS OTA.
As for sending one over WiFi, yes, it is called email and IMing.

isikh said:
Hi I don't have a data plan and I got a picture message I want to view..is it possible to download it throught wifi somehow since I don't have a data plan? If so, how? Thank you so much in advance!
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you used to be able to, but T-Mobile took care of that, and the APN is now blocked so you can't send or receive the mms messages. Kinda sucks.

settings for MMS over wifi?
pcforpres mentions settings in order to be able to read MMS over wifi, what are the settings? I'm also interested in reading MMS messages over wifi. It would be awesome if I could read/write MMS messages as well, since I do have the unlimited sms/mms with the G1. Obviuosly, I don't have the data plan yet. Thanks!

i think it would be pretty useful.... cause i dont get 3G service in my room or good service at all , and sometimes its impossible to even send an sms

mobileD7 said:
pcforpres mentions settings in order to be able to read MMS over wifi, what are the settings? I'm also interested in reading MMS messages over wifi. It would be awesome if I could read/write MMS messages as well, since I do have the unlimited sms/mms with the G1. Obviuosly, I don't have the data plan yet. Thanks!
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I did not say you could send MMS over WiFi, I said you could only send MMS OTA, which means Over The Air, aka through your carrier's network.
The reason people can't send MMS with cooked ROMs most of the time is because they do not enter their carriers settings into the phone, just like you need to enter the data settings. Sometimes, the date account settings and MMS settings are one in the same, but most of the time they are not.
As well, MMS are independent from having a data account. Every single carrier allows any customer to send and recieve MMS for a nominal fee whether they have a data plan or not. Some bundle MMS in with text while others with data, but MMS is independent of both of those services in terms of network protocol and phone settings(with a few exceptions where if you have a data plan, it is the same setting that your phone uses to do MMS and internet)

WiFi and MMS
Thanks PCJforPres. Per your previous post "MMS is solely and OTA event. You also do not need a data plan to view an MMS. You do, however, need the proper settings in your phone before it will DL a MMS OTA.
As for sending one over WiFi, yes, it is called email and IMing."
You mention you do not need a data plan to view an MMS. I'm currently able to receive the MMS, but not able to download it. Is this what you are saying as well? or can we actually read it via wifi? Are there proper settings to use with no data plan? These MMS messages I somtimes get are just text, but for some reason they come in as MMS. SMS works great. Any thoughts or solutions?

Yes, you must set up your phone with proper MMS and SMS settings for your carrier. MMS does not need dataplan.

mobileD7 said:
Thanks PCJforPres. Per your previous post "MMS is solely and OTA event. You also do not need a data plan to view an MMS. You do, however, need the proper settings in your phone before it will DL a MMS OTA.
As for sending one over WiFi, yes, it is called email and IMing."
You mention you do not need a data plan to view an MMS. I'm currently able to receive the MMS, but not able to download it. Is this what you are saying as well? or can we actually read it via wifi? Are there proper settings to use with no data plan? These MMS messages I somtimes get are just text, but for some reason they come in as MMS. SMS works great. Any thoughts or solutions?
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What is likely happening is that you do not have the proper MMS settings, either the ROM doesn't have the MMS application, or you have yet to set the settings up. So instead of getting the MMS, you get just the text with a blank "image" box or whatever because it cannot connect to the server to download the data portion. There is no way to us WiFi to do this, because the internet has no way of accessing your carriers network and obtaining that info. It is stuck in your carriers routing system, and after X amount of time will be deleted if you do not download it.
Call your carriers CS line and ask them what the proper settings are for MMS, even if they say they don't support the G1, insist that they tell you the manual settings for a smart phone... you should get APN info, Proxy and Port info, default website info(this is the site it downloads from technically), network type (ie is it WAP, Secure WAP, HTTP, Secure HTTP)... there might be more or less info needed, but those are the basics.
You can usually search the interwebs for this info as well.

pjcforpres said:
What is likely happening is that you do not have the proper MMS settings, either the ROM doesn't have the MMS application, or you have yet to set the settings up. So instead of getting the MMS, you get just the text with a blank "image" box or whatever because it cannot connect to the server to download the data portion. There is no way to us WiFi to do this, because the internet has no way of accessing your carriers network and obtaining that info. It is stuck in your carriers routing system, and after X amount of time will be deleted if you do not download it.
Call your carriers CS line and ask them what the proper settings are for MMS, even if they say they don't support the G1, insist that they tell you the manual settings for a smart phone... you should get APN info, Proxy and Port info, default website info(this is the site it downloads from technically), network type (ie is it WAP, Secure WAP, HTTP, Secure HTTP)... there might be more or less info needed, but those are the basics.
You can usually search the interwebs for this info as well.
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And these APN settings are far and few to find but good luck if you find them, I have tried everything, every different type of APN for T-Mobile US and had absolutely no luck.
These are not facts but my own conclusion about this: What I'm afraid is that Android pushes all MMS activity through the data connection anyhow. Because after using another T-Mobile SIM, with the data connection, I was instantly able to download all my MMS pictures. So I don't think there is any correct APN setting for MMS to work without the data plan sadly. That's why I started a thread awhile ago to hopefully build support.. but I guess most people out there have the data plan or no data plan + no messaging or simply just don't care about MMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559805
I'm just hoping that somebody will try to fix this problem eventually, but like I've discovered there just isn't much demand for it. Personally, I want to get into Android dev but I can't say how long it'll take me to learn the ropes plus if I'll even be able to do anything about it myself.

MMS over wifi
Yeah, it is crazy that MMS is not available over wifi that we know of. I was going to call tmobile for the APN, but from reading it sounds like MMS by default goes over there new data APN? no clue. What a crappy way to make money for tmobile that they have to force customers to have the data plan. At least SMS works and other functions over wifi (which is really all I need). I don't have time for non-stop data access for my phone. Yeah, hopefully there will be an alternate fix to access MMS over wifi or another APN. Any ideas or does any one have a working APN they can provide?
I guess I'll try tmobile again for a valid APN.