Hello,
I have done a search for this and couldnt find a direct answer so I figure ill ask here, it could also help others.
My situation is this, I am currently with att and have unlimited texting (including MMS and instant messengers). The thing is, I do not pay for a data plan as I rely on wifi since I have hotspots everywhere (being from los angeles).
I disabled my data connection so that my kaiser would not accidentally or automatically use my data connection, but in doing this, I cannot send/recieve MMS, nor can I use instant messenging programs as they use little bits of data.
My question is this: Is there a way to keep data disabled but only have it enabled for certain programs? If this cannot be done, is it possible to keep data enabled, but only have it disabled on certain programs?
THanks in advance for any help you guys have!
does anybody have any input on this? I would really like to know about this because I feel crippled....are there possibly programs that allow access control of programs?
Im guessing that this is not possible then? Im going to let this die and stay unresolved after this bump...would appreciate some input...
For me.. in HK.. the case you have experienced will be handled by the mobile operator which they have an "Proxy" which only allowed certain program to access .. or not program.. but may be the URL.. then different Internet Profile can be set in your PDA in order to access different URL..
So.. I don't know whether ATT will got any similar Proxy available..
Does anyone with AT&T know about this proxy which I can set up to allow only a select few programs to access my data connection?
im sure somebody knows something that could help me with this problem? I want to keep DATA disabled for programs that use it except for MMS and Instant Messaging programs that use Text Messages (because small data is required)....
maybe a software firewall for the pda would be the way to go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=246102&highlight=firewall
intersting, and Id be able to control which programs have access to my data connection?
ill check it out! any other input? thanks in advance!
Rudegar said:
maybe a software firewall for the pda would be the way to go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=246102&highlight=firewall
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so i just tried that firewall and its not what im looking for unfortunately......
any other suggestions? i would really really like to use MMS and instant messanging on my phone w/o having to pay for a data plan.....and i also want to make use of my unlimited text messaging, thank you!
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First, what is a good and light* instant messenger program for WM6 that will use AIM?
Also, I used KaiserTweak to disable data after 60 seconds of inactivity, could anyone tell me what the specific registry entries are for that?
you've got 3 choices. 2 free. First is mundu im....this one is $11 for lifetime....its about the most polished out of the 3. second is palringo. just as good as mundu but lacks the same polish and supports image and voice messaging in the im itself. and then theres octrotalk...this one is still in beta but it shows some promise. currently im sticking to mundu but i switch back and forth to palringo.
you mention the data disconnect....this is interesting...i notice my device disconnects me from aim every now and then and i dont know why....you think this could be why? is this set to kill data after a certain time by default?
My opinion:
If you use MSN only, stick with the Windows Live Messenger, no other software is better than that (tabbed session is finger friendly).
And for multi IM, I use IM+
For me, it is nice and I like it very much. I can use left-right d-pad to change tabbed session
Are those IM programs actually using 3g or are they sending SMS back and forth? I have an unlimited data plan but not unlimited txt's.
It uses data not SMS. Interesting idea though, SMS encapsulated TCP/IP. Reminds me of that old TCP over carrier pigeon gag RFC.
thanks for the reply
I set mine to kill the data connection after 60 seconds. But I have noticed that when browsing on Opera it will disconnect causing a network not found error and then immediately reconnect itself. Could this be from disconnecting data connections after 60 seconds? I thought it only did that if not active.
Also make sure you DO follow my articles and DO search the Wiki. The latter also contains the IM Bible, to which I'll promptly add a Palringo section.
All this because AIM is supported by FAR more IM apps - not only three.
Hi Guys,
I am also looking a IM software for my HTC tytn II.. Can you guide me a software in which i can do Voice chat(talk) as well to my online yahoo/gmail contacts.
Thanks for your help.
pda_crazy said:
Hi Guys,
I am also looking a IM software for my HTC tytn II.. Can you guide me a software in which i can do Voice chat(talk) as well to my online yahoo/gmail contacts.
Thanks for your help.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343429&page=2
i unlocked my tilt and i use it with tmobile service
i cant send pictures mms
i cant use instant messager
also my emails stopped coming
help
You can probably expect the amount of help in responses to be in direct proportion to the amount of diagnostic information you provide.
What connection type do you have?
What data plan are you using?
What have you tested?
What connection settings are you using?
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Ok. For the Instant Messages just download Palringo, its free and does every client. Picture messages, you are going to have to get your Tmobile settings for MMS as well as browser settings. Go to google.com and type in T Mobile Connection settings I'm sure you'll find something, Same thing for mms, Type in Tmobile MMS settings.
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Ok. For the Instant Messages just download Palringo, its free and does every client. Picture messages, you are going to have to get your Tmobile settings for MMS as well as browser settings. Go to google.com and type in T Mobile Connection settings I'm sure you'll find something, Same thing for mms, Type in Tmobile MMS settings.
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i dnt like Palringoand i already tried ALL of that
im still seeking help ppl
You have not answered Liquidsilver's message - Without that information it is difficult to help.
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What connection type do you have?
What data plan are you using?
What have you tested?
What connection settings are you using?
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ok i did some tampering and now i can send pictures thru mms
but now
i cant send emails still not recieving b4 i was able to send but not recieve
also i still cant sign on to any instant messager
liquidsilver said:
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What connection type do you have?
What data plan are you using?
What have you tested?
What connection settings are you using?
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i have regular t-mobile wireless internet my favs plan
i tried googling my problem going to t-mobile settings
my connection settings are set to auto pick
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Geez,
Do you know what Rom you're running? As you have a Tilt if you are running an at&t Rom or some of the cooked Tilt Roms (like XDA Live) then there is the whole Hidden Cingular Proxy issue (google it).
Anyway, this really doesn't warrant another thread discussing getting tilt/kaiser to work on t-mobile. Please ask your questions in one of the existing threads discussing t-mobile issues.
i have a att tilt and for some reason i can no longer send multimedia messages or connect to media net. i am not sure what happened because it worked before and now no longer does. i have looked for solutions but none seem to work. my wifi still works it is just media net
Perhaps the master account blocked data access. My wife did that and then her son could no longer send multimedia text messages. They found out the hard way that the multimedia part of the text message uses data access...
hmm that could be it. but i was under the assumption that with the text message plan it was free multimedia messages also. also im pretty sure that the master account didnt block it. i just dont know what could be the problem
Did you install any configuration cabs? Those will sometimes change your mms settings to default to Isp or Internet. Check your options and settings for mms that it's using Media net to connect and of course the connection settings to default to Media net
Hi I don't have a data plan and I got a picture message I want to view..is it possible to download it throught wifi somehow since I don't have a data plan? If so, how? Thank you so much in advance!
why don't you try and find out for yourself? xD
just get wifi?
why don't you try and find out for yourself? xD
just get wifi?
phamous said:
why don't you try and find out for yourself? xD
just get wifi?
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....I've clearly tried that, but MMS doesn't work on WiFi hence my asking...
isikh said:
....I've clearly tried that, but MMS doesn't work on WiFi hence my asking...
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I'm sure there isn't. But I'm pretty sure you don't need a data plan. My old RAZR did it just fine without a data plan. I know from experience that you can't send or receive mms over wifi
MMS is solely and OTA event. You also do not need a data plan to view an MMS. You do, however, need the proper settings in your phone before it will DL a MMS OTA.
As for sending one over WiFi, yes, it is called email and IMing.
isikh said:
Hi I don't have a data plan and I got a picture message I want to view..is it possible to download it throught wifi somehow since I don't have a data plan? If so, how? Thank you so much in advance!
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you used to be able to, but T-Mobile took care of that, and the APN is now blocked so you can't send or receive the mms messages. Kinda sucks.
settings for MMS over wifi?
pcforpres mentions settings in order to be able to read MMS over wifi, what are the settings? I'm also interested in reading MMS messages over wifi. It would be awesome if I could read/write MMS messages as well, since I do have the unlimited sms/mms with the G1. Obviuosly, I don't have the data plan yet. Thanks!
i think it would be pretty useful.... cause i dont get 3G service in my room or good service at all , and sometimes its impossible to even send an sms
mobileD7 said:
pcforpres mentions settings in order to be able to read MMS over wifi, what are the settings? I'm also interested in reading MMS messages over wifi. It would be awesome if I could read/write MMS messages as well, since I do have the unlimited sms/mms with the G1. Obviuosly, I don't have the data plan yet. Thanks!
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I did not say you could send MMS over WiFi, I said you could only send MMS OTA, which means Over The Air, aka through your carrier's network.
The reason people can't send MMS with cooked ROMs most of the time is because they do not enter their carriers settings into the phone, just like you need to enter the data settings. Sometimes, the date account settings and MMS settings are one in the same, but most of the time they are not.
As well, MMS are independent from having a data account. Every single carrier allows any customer to send and recieve MMS for a nominal fee whether they have a data plan or not. Some bundle MMS in with text while others with data, but MMS is independent of both of those services in terms of network protocol and phone settings(with a few exceptions where if you have a data plan, it is the same setting that your phone uses to do MMS and internet)
WiFi and MMS
Thanks PCJforPres. Per your previous post "MMS is solely and OTA event. You also do not need a data plan to view an MMS. You do, however, need the proper settings in your phone before it will DL a MMS OTA.
As for sending one over WiFi, yes, it is called email and IMing."
You mention you do not need a data plan to view an MMS. I'm currently able to receive the MMS, but not able to download it. Is this what you are saying as well? or can we actually read it via wifi? Are there proper settings to use with no data plan? These MMS messages I somtimes get are just text, but for some reason they come in as MMS. SMS works great. Any thoughts or solutions?
Yes, you must set up your phone with proper MMS and SMS settings for your carrier. MMS does not need dataplan.
mobileD7 said:
Thanks PCJforPres. Per your previous post "MMS is solely and OTA event. You also do not need a data plan to view an MMS. You do, however, need the proper settings in your phone before it will DL a MMS OTA.
As for sending one over WiFi, yes, it is called email and IMing."
You mention you do not need a data plan to view an MMS. I'm currently able to receive the MMS, but not able to download it. Is this what you are saying as well? or can we actually read it via wifi? Are there proper settings to use with no data plan? These MMS messages I somtimes get are just text, but for some reason they come in as MMS. SMS works great. Any thoughts or solutions?
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What is likely happening is that you do not have the proper MMS settings, either the ROM doesn't have the MMS application, or you have yet to set the settings up. So instead of getting the MMS, you get just the text with a blank "image" box or whatever because it cannot connect to the server to download the data portion. There is no way to us WiFi to do this, because the internet has no way of accessing your carriers network and obtaining that info. It is stuck in your carriers routing system, and after X amount of time will be deleted if you do not download it.
Call your carriers CS line and ask them what the proper settings are for MMS, even if they say they don't support the G1, insist that they tell you the manual settings for a smart phone... you should get APN info, Proxy and Port info, default website info(this is the site it downloads from technically), network type (ie is it WAP, Secure WAP, HTTP, Secure HTTP)... there might be more or less info needed, but those are the basics.
You can usually search the interwebs for this info as well.
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What is likely happening is that you do not have the proper MMS settings, either the ROM doesn't have the MMS application, or you have yet to set the settings up. So instead of getting the MMS, you get just the text with a blank "image" box or whatever because it cannot connect to the server to download the data portion. There is no way to us WiFi to do this, because the internet has no way of accessing your carriers network and obtaining that info. It is stuck in your carriers routing system, and after X amount of time will be deleted if you do not download it.
Call your carriers CS line and ask them what the proper settings are for MMS, even if they say they don't support the G1, insist that they tell you the manual settings for a smart phone... you should get APN info, Proxy and Port info, default website info(this is the site it downloads from technically), network type (ie is it WAP, Secure WAP, HTTP, Secure HTTP)... there might be more or less info needed, but those are the basics.
You can usually search the interwebs for this info as well.
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And these APN settings are far and few to find but good luck if you find them, I have tried everything, every different type of APN for T-Mobile US and had absolutely no luck.
These are not facts but my own conclusion about this: What I'm afraid is that Android pushes all MMS activity through the data connection anyhow. Because after using another T-Mobile SIM, with the data connection, I was instantly able to download all my MMS pictures. So I don't think there is any correct APN setting for MMS to work without the data plan sadly. That's why I started a thread awhile ago to hopefully build support.. but I guess most people out there have the data plan or no data plan + no messaging or simply just don't care about MMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559805
I'm just hoping that somebody will try to fix this problem eventually, but like I've discovered there just isn't much demand for it. Personally, I want to get into Android dev but I can't say how long it'll take me to learn the ropes plus if I'll even be able to do anything about it myself.
MMS over wifi
Yeah, it is crazy that MMS is not available over wifi that we know of. I was going to call tmobile for the APN, but from reading it sounds like MMS by default goes over there new data APN? no clue. What a crappy way to make money for tmobile that they have to force customers to have the data plan. At least SMS works and other functions over wifi (which is really all I need). I don't have time for non-stop data access for my phone. Yeah, hopefully there will be an alternate fix to access MMS over wifi or another APN. Any ideas or does any one have a working APN they can provide?
I guess I'll try tmobile again for a valid APN.
Hi guys,
i was previously using a WM platform and now jumping to Android, so I'm pretty new here.
So i dont have any data plan for my milestone and i installed APNDroid to disable 3G/Egde/GPRS. I enabled the option to keep my MMS working. But the problem is that i cant even send out a MMS at all unless i enable my 3g/Egde/GPRS.
Is there a way to fix this or is it a bug?
Thanks guys for being patient with me.
Do you use the most current version 2.1.3? This enables you to keep mms service active
Yes, i download the latest apndroid in the market. Still, i cant send out mms when i disable my 3g/egde/gprs. I can only send mms when i enable 3g/egde/gprs.
Check the contents of your MMS access point: Settings->Wireless (something like that) and find your way to the access point list on your phone (sorry I have German locale so I can't tell you a specific path)...check there if there is still "apndroid" appended and delete this sequence from your mms-profile...also make sure that the APN-type is "mms" (without the quotes)...
I checked and notice that if i disable "keep mms" option, my mms apn doesnt have "apndroid" behind it. Its weird tho. Is apndroid working well for you?
Yeah, mine works flawlessly...:/