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Sending SMS to an email address on 8125--is there a crack?

Does anyone know if there's a way to enable sending emails via the SMS app on the 8125 (without using 36245 as the email address)? If you try to send an SMS to an email (not a phone number), the app tells you it's not allowed. Several of us would like to be able to "chat" via sms with people on BlackBerries (for example) or 2-way pagers that aren't addressable as cell phones. Most other phones allow this, but Cingular has disabled it on the 8125. It certainly works on Cing treos. Doesnt work on 8125 with orig ROM or Summiter's excellent ROM upgrade.
Anyone know if this is a registry edit, or would it require a seperate program? Anyone able and willing to post a solution?

omg i just realized it's not letting me send sms to email addresses either >< I used to use send sms to emails all the time on my treo too >< ahhhh ~ any fixes please

Re: Sending SMS to an email address on 8125--is there a crac
aoldal said:
Does anyone know if there's a way to enable sending emails via the SMS app on the 8125 (without using 36245 as the email address)? If you try to send an SMS to an email (not a phone number), the app tells you it's not allowed. Several of us would like to be able to "chat" via sms with people on BlackBerries (for example) or 2-way pagers that aren't addressable as cell phones. Most other phones allow this, but Cingular has disabled it on the 8125. It certainly works on Cing treos. Doesnt work on 8125 with orig ROM or Summiter's excellent ROM upgrade.
Anyone know if this is a registry edit, or would it require a seperate program? Anyone able and willing to post a solution?
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You can always send MMS to email addresses with just text.
I'm curious in today's age why you need to send SMS to email addresses, probably same reason MSFT didn't include it. Can you elaborate more??
There is cross operability with all carriers for text messages so you can just put in the phone number of any mobile device and it'll work.
All Blackberries that are less than 3 years old support SMS over the phone # assigned.
I understand the issue for 2-way pagers but why can't you just send a quick email?

There's a need for SMS to 2-way pagers because sending an SMS is faster to create and send...since email requires a logon and data connection. SMS is the easier way to go if you want to "chat"

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The first thing in the body of the message should be the e-mail address with the subject immediately after, in parentheses. Then a space, then your message. Example: to send an e-mail to [email protected] with a subject of 'billing question' and the body 'Please contact me via phone to discuss my recent bill' you would send the following to 121
[email protected](billing question) Please contact me via phone to discuss my recent bill
Voila!

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mobilehavoc said:
I'm curious in today's age why you need to send SMS to email addresses, probably same reason MSFT didn't include it. Can you elaborate more??
There is cross operability with all carriers for text messages so you can just put in the phone number of any mobile device and it'll work.
All Blackberries that are less than 3 years old support SMS over the phone # assigned.
I understand the issue for 2-way pagers but why can't you just send a quick email?
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I won't speak for the original poster, but I'll elaborate with my reason: I'm not an email/internet/IM junkie, and I don't need all that for work, so I don't have a data plan for my 8125 in order to use the real email capability. But, I do have the 100 SMS msg pack on my plan, and I occasionally need to send a quick email to someone when I'm away from the computer and only have my phone. I used this capability on my Nokia6800 all the time, and apparently the Nokia software took care of the special formatting, since all I had to do on it was type in (or select from Contacts) the email address, the subject, and the message. When I started searching today on this issue, I hoped there was a more elegant solution, but I'm perfectly happy with the instructions for a specially formatted SMS message (as long as I can remember them when I need to send an email). I just figured out that I can copy/paste an email address from Contacts, which I suppose will be better than trying to rember one and having to type it, so that's not too bad.
If I really needed to use email a lot from my phone, I guess I'd give in and pay for a data plan, but for now, this SMS trick works just fine.
Edit: almost forgot to say thanks to Hosehead for the tip. Much obliged.

Hosehead said:
Send an SMS to 121
The first thing in the body of the message should be the e-mail address with the subject immediately after, in parentheses. Then a space, then your message. Example: to send an e-mail to [email protected] with a subject of 'billing question' and the body 'Please contact me via phone to discuss my recent bill' you would send the following to 121
[email protected](billing question) Please contact me via phone to discuss my recent bill
Voila!
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Using Cingular this did not work...

Worked just fine through Cingular for me when I tried it this afternoon. The email I received looked just like the ones I used to send with my Nokia.

Has worked fine for me since I got my 8125. I recommend making sure you have a new "3G" sim, I know some of the older ones restricted SMS e-mail.

It works for me!
I sent the first test to my work e-mail. Apparently the SPAM filters didn't like it.
Second test to personal e-mail worked like a charm. This is nice to know.

well holy shi** i didn't even know you could do that. it had never even crossed my mind that SMS connected to e-mail
brilliant, johnson. brilliant!

I've sent email with mine through text before...
I was messing around with it when I setup my gmail account to forward me emails through text...

not working for me..
Hmm.. this is not working for me on Tmobile with an MDA.. Has anyone had any success with tmobile?

Send text using data plan, send text using internet.

PLease i just realised that i was still getting charged for sending text messages, even though i have tha total intertnet plan from tmobile.
I was just wondering if anyone knows of a program that would let me send text messages bypassing the cellular network, and using my internet,(be it wifi or edge or gprs) to carry the messages.
Kinda like when you use your computer to send texts to phones, is there a program for windows mobile?
thank you in advance

I believe there are a few websites out there to send messages with, tmobile used to have a public SMS application, however I am unsure of any method of "relaying" an SMS message through the included pocket outlook sms handler to one of those sites transparently.

thank you. I still will be awaiting answers.

moyofalaye said:
thank you. I still will be awaiting answers.
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one approach might be to use an email server to bounce the messages to sms email addresses.
say you use the email side of the messaging app, either through synching to exchange or through a pop, imap or whatever, and point the email at the sms address, I forget what the tmobile address is, but for example it would be like [email protected]
I guess that semi solves the problem without any programming, you would just need each carrier's email address, and specify a return address that would go to your phone for when they SMS back.

CaptDistraction said:
moyofalaye said:
thank you. I still will be awaiting answers
previous:H6315(hell in gadget form), Tmo original xda PPCPE.
CaptDistraction, you need to be creative about the 6315; I gave mine to my wife when I upgraded to to 8125. Got rid of the memory hogs and you can't imagine how our relationship has improved, we now talk about the same techy stuff; she complaing, I fixing by the way she no longer complains about how much time I spend with my phone, cause she's now doing the same. Now we have no time to talk to each other...... :twisted:
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Haha, I tried every rom out there, I kept the device for a while and finally sold it to support the MDA purchase.
Man I messed with that 6315 to no end, had so much stuff going on with it trying different app combos, spent hours in the registry, no matter how simple I kept it, I couldn't ever get it to answer calls in a timely fashion.
My biggest love with the MDA is when you press that green answer button, it immediately picks up the call.

Free SMS/Text messaging?

Hey guys,
Just been browsing around the net lately and see that you can send free text messages from certain web sites and now i hear ICQ. BUT, I was wondering if anyone here had written a program that will actually use the GPRS connection from our Data Plan to send out text messages? I know its a long shot, but i think it could work.
Reason : When you goto these sites . . (Ex. txtdrop.com; smseverywhere.com; etc) they allow you to send free text messages to almost any wireless carrier, some even just have you put in United States and then the number and it finds it for you. So i was thinking . . . Why not make a program that will do the same thing using those web-sites or something, and instead of putting your name in where it says "you name" you just have it put in your wireless number so they can respond. SO, ur only getting charged for receiving txt messages.
I thought this up because i am with cingular myself here is the USA, and their plans are either 4.99 for 200 messages sent and received, or 19.99 for 3,000 sent and received!!! I already pay 39.99 for my F***IN unlimited data plan, WHY NOT USE IT!!!! If anyone can think of a way to get this to work, that would be AMAZING!!
I've heard there are programs that use ICQ to send and recieve free texts to phones but i haven't found anything for Windows Mobile. If someone knows of a way, or can think of an easy fix, please feel free to let me know ASAP!

i was speaking with a cingular sales manager i worked with. at the time my tmobile contract was up. and she wanted me to switch bad.. and i said only thing in my way is hte lack of unlimited txt msging. and she called around and talk to her bosses and they told her nothing they can do cingular doesnt believe enough people txt more than 3000 txt in an out a month and i resigned with tmobile 9.99 unlimited on all my family plan phones. as far as a company stand point they wont offer fair txt rates to anyone. but i doubt you can send txt via data it has to be done on a cellular level. maybe those sites have a server set up to acually connect to a wireless network at some point and push out those txt msgs

set up a push email account that is free like i have from mail2web. now here is the secret. you can email a text message to any phone with (phone number)@(serviceprovider).com but who actually knows what service their friends have. a service from teleflip will automatically convert the domain name to the proper provider. so all u have to do is email the [email protected] through push and they can reply back and it will go to your push email box.
i even saved my most used friends teleflip phone number as an email address so i can quickly communicate with them

grinny11 said:
set up a push email account that is free like i have from mail2web. now here is the secret. you can email a text message to any phone with (phone number)@(serviceprovider).com but who actually knows what service their friends have. a service from teleflip will automatically convert the domain name to the proper provider. so all u have to do is email the [email protected] through push and they can reply back and it will go to your push email box.
i even saved my most used friends teleflip phone number as an email address so i can quickly communicate with them
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Please check your PM to help me out with this. I know ur probably busy, but it would not only benefit me, but EVERY person on thuis board with cingular!! Thanx soo much

1) How to setup push e-mail on my phone (8125 running 3.3 V2 rom)
a. i set it up in activesync. connect device. tools/add server source and for the server type mobile.exchange.mail2web.com and the username is your [email protected]
domain:ad2 password is the one u made
2) Do i need to have a particular kind of e-mail? Like a special yahoo account? (Cause i don't think yahoo or hotmail allow you to grab you FREE e-mail account using pop3 or smtp) Or can I get one at that Mail2web.com site? If so, where?
a.you want mail2web live which is free. u can also set your other email to forward to your mail2web account. ex. i forward my yahoo mail to my mail2web which is pushed to my phone
3) When someone receives the text message, will they be sending a text back to me and will i be charged for that text? Or will it be sent automatically back to that e-mail address and then i can have it grabbed by push e-mail and cost me nothing?
a. yes if the other person presses reply to the text you get it sent back to your push email box which makes it free.
4) is there a big delay in how long it takes them to get the text sending it this way? (ie. is it slower then sending it through sms on my phone?)
a. never actually tested but i imagine it probably a little more time because it runs though a couple of extra servers. though very minimal. maybe an extra minute at most. i can still have conversations with the push email/txt solution
here is a tip:
when sending a email txt to someone for the first time. put your name at the end. they probably will have no clue who u are and let them know to hit reply when they msg u back

Moderators . . STICKY???
I mean, who doesn't want free text messaging!!
Been doing it for 2 days now and it works almost flawlessly. Sometimes people don't get them for a little while, but i can live with an extra 3 min to save myself the 19.99 3000 limit!!!!
I still have my 4.99 200 msg serice so my friends can text me at will, but i will ALWAYS reply back by this method to save texts!
Grinny11 deserves all credit for this!!! I just brought it out into the open!
Thanx Grinny11!! U DA MAN!!

looks good
but is here uk version of this has anyone found a web site in uk that wil work the same way as ive tested this and it dont work for me with 0797 ect or +44797ect

Globalrebel said:
Hey guys,
I thought this up because i am with cingular myself here is the USA, and their plans are either 4.99 for 200 messages sent and received, or 19.99 for 3,000 sent and received!!! I already pay 39.99 for my F***IN unlimited data plan, WHY NOT USE IT!!!! If anyone can think of a way to get this to work, that would be AMAZING!!
ASAP!
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Man you should look into the media max packages. I have the media max 200 and that's unlimited data, 200 any type messages. all for $19.99. Booyah.

T-Mobile USA: 14.99 Unlimited Text, Picture and Video messages...

IM that uses SMS to initiate, data to chat.

Are there any IM programs anyone is aware of that can initiate a chat with SMS, but otherwise is offline?
I don't get a lot of chat requests, but I do sometimes chat a bit, and I only have 250 sms. But I find that IM+ uses quite a bit of battery, particularly on HSDPA. If I exit it and just leave FlexMail running (2 idle imap mailboxes) it uses only a few percent of battery an hour vs 10% or so with FM and IM running.
So perhaps there's an IM program out there that is offline until you get an SMS, at which point you can chat over data? Figure it's worth asking.
I made a fair attempt at searching, but all I find either use SMS or data, no hybrids.

I've continued to look, haven't found anything yet. I have switched to Jabber using transports to see if that lowers data usage, but the jury is still out on that, I'm tracking battery usage right now.

OZ IM from AT-T uses SMS to send its messages not data hence you will be charged per message you send as a SMS.

austinsnyc said:
OZ IM from AT-T uses SMS to send its messages not data hence you will be charged per message you send as a SMS.
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I guess I wasn't terribly clear.. I want an IM program would do basically this:
Goes online (using data I presume)
Program itself now goes offline (no more data usage)
When I get an IM, I get an SMS which initiates the program going back online
Chat over cellular data
When done with chat, program again goes back offline and waits for another sms
Seems the perfect combination for someone like me who doesn't have a lot of SMS and wants to save on battery life at the same time.

...but once you receive an SMS doesn't that charge against your original 250?
Curious but, isn't an unlimited/high text message plan fairly affordable? I'm with AT&T and have unlimited texts for $15...and it covers all 5 people on my family plan.

You can fwd your IMs with AIM fowarding, and when you get a text from AIM, login to like Slick or something. Then when you're done, sign off slick. With AIM forwarding on, you'll still be on even if you're technically not "on".

drawde said:
You can fwd your IMs with AIM fowarding, and when you get a text from AIM, login to like Slick or something. Then when you're done, sign off slick. With AIM forwarding on, you'll still be on even if you're technically not "on".
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That really IS the best way at the moment. Unfortunately, developers either go for the SMS or the data. SMS cost more usually, and data is not as reliable.

MrEous said:
...but once you receive an SMS doesn't that charge against your original 250?
Curious but, isn't an unlimited/high text message plan fairly affordable? I'm with AT&T and have unlimited texts for $15...and it covers all 5 people on my family plan.
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Hmm, I didn't realize that the $15 unlimited plan covered the whole group. I thought it was per-user. I might have to look into that.
I have 250 for $5 just for myself. Yeah, the initial SMS would come out, but that's not a big deal, I don't get a lot of SMSes or initiated chats, but there are times I need to be contacted to get in touch with someone on IM and aren't near a computer. And at work I don't have personal IM running (except on the Tilt ;-) )
I'll check out your suggestion.. Sounds like that's a good possibility to just go all SMS for the IMing.

i do believe that AIM has the ability to do this, if you are offline and i wanted to get in touch with you and you have your AIM account setup correctly by providing the profile with your phone number there will be the option to send via text message, at that point you will receive the text message and then get online yourself to talk to the person.
i dont think there is any program that once you receive the text message that it will automatically go online for you.
it may be ICQ i dont remember which client has this capability of sending text but one of them do it.

Mobile Defense question?

ok, i cant find the answer anywhere, can mobile defense work without a data plan?

nahanee20 said:
ok, i cant find the answer anywhere, can mobile defense work without a data plan?
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Yes & no. The mobile defense app usually runs off of the gps and the text message that is sent that has a special code on it, but some features wont work but the important ones will

Long story short, no it will not. The only thing that will work is it will send the phone an email. After that, the phone will look to connect to the server and time out.
The email sent to the phone does nothing but tell the phone to contact the server. It does not lock, wipe, track, or anything else.

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Long story short, no it will not. The only thing that will work is it will send the phone an email. After that, the phone will look to connect to the server and time out.
The email sent to the phone does nothing but tell the phone to contact the server. It does not lock, wipe, track, or anything else.
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I agree with this except it's text messages not email. And they are simply commands to connect to the server.

Fingerlickin said:
I agree with this except it's text messages not email. And they are simply commands to connect to the server.
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Sorry, but it's actually an email sent to your TMO email address (as opposed to your Gmail account). This is why it comes up as "[email protected]".
Send an email to [email protected] and you'll see what I mean
Since I am being nit-picky on details... technically it "does" go through T-Mobile's SMSC but it originates as an email.

I realize it was sent via email but your phone is receiving an SMS, just so people don't get confused here your phone receives an SMS message and you WILL be charged for an SMS if you don't have a texting plan regardless of how the message originated.

Fingerlickin said:
I realize it was sent via email but your phone is receiving an SMS, just so people don't get confused here your phone receives an SMS message and you WILL be charged for an SMS if you don't have a texting plan regardless of how the message originated.
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Ahh... touche... I actually did edit my post just as you were replying

/whisper be vewy vewy careful, there's noobs watching who will say "ah no text message charges"