Are there any IM programs anyone is aware of that can initiate a chat with SMS, but otherwise is offline?
I don't get a lot of chat requests, but I do sometimes chat a bit, and I only have 250 sms. But I find that IM+ uses quite a bit of battery, particularly on HSDPA. If I exit it and just leave FlexMail running (2 idle imap mailboxes) it uses only a few percent of battery an hour vs 10% or so with FM and IM running.
So perhaps there's an IM program out there that is offline until you get an SMS, at which point you can chat over data? Figure it's worth asking.
I made a fair attempt at searching, but all I find either use SMS or data, no hybrids.
I've continued to look, haven't found anything yet. I have switched to Jabber using transports to see if that lowers data usage, but the jury is still out on that, I'm tracking battery usage right now.
OZ IM from AT-T uses SMS to send its messages not data hence you will be charged per message you send as a SMS.
austinsnyc said:
OZ IM from AT-T uses SMS to send its messages not data hence you will be charged per message you send as a SMS.
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I guess I wasn't terribly clear.. I want an IM program would do basically this:
Goes online (using data I presume)
Program itself now goes offline (no more data usage)
When I get an IM, I get an SMS which initiates the program going back online
Chat over cellular data
When done with chat, program again goes back offline and waits for another sms
Seems the perfect combination for someone like me who doesn't have a lot of SMS and wants to save on battery life at the same time.
...but once you receive an SMS doesn't that charge against your original 250?
Curious but, isn't an unlimited/high text message plan fairly affordable? I'm with AT&T and have unlimited texts for $15...and it covers all 5 people on my family plan.
You can fwd your IMs with AIM fowarding, and when you get a text from AIM, login to like Slick or something. Then when you're done, sign off slick. With AIM forwarding on, you'll still be on even if you're technically not "on".
drawde said:
You can fwd your IMs with AIM fowarding, and when you get a text from AIM, login to like Slick or something. Then when you're done, sign off slick. With AIM forwarding on, you'll still be on even if you're technically not "on".
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That really IS the best way at the moment. Unfortunately, developers either go for the SMS or the data. SMS cost more usually, and data is not as reliable.
MrEous said:
...but once you receive an SMS doesn't that charge against your original 250?
Curious but, isn't an unlimited/high text message plan fairly affordable? I'm with AT&T and have unlimited texts for $15...and it covers all 5 people on my family plan.
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Hmm, I didn't realize that the $15 unlimited plan covered the whole group. I thought it was per-user. I might have to look into that.
I have 250 for $5 just for myself. Yeah, the initial SMS would come out, but that's not a big deal, I don't get a lot of SMSes or initiated chats, but there are times I need to be contacted to get in touch with someone on IM and aren't near a computer. And at work I don't have personal IM running (except on the Tilt ;-) )
I'll check out your suggestion.. Sounds like that's a good possibility to just go all SMS for the IMing.
i do believe that AIM has the ability to do this, if you are offline and i wanted to get in touch with you and you have your AIM account setup correctly by providing the profile with your phone number there will be the option to send via text message, at that point you will receive the text message and then get online yourself to talk to the person.
i dont think there is any program that once you receive the text message that it will automatically go online for you.
it may be ICQ i dont remember which client has this capability of sending text but one of them do it.
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PLease i just realised that i was still getting charged for sending text messages, even though i have tha total intertnet plan from tmobile.
I was just wondering if anyone knows of a program that would let me send text messages bypassing the cellular network, and using my internet,(be it wifi or edge or gprs) to carry the messages.
Kinda like when you use your computer to send texts to phones, is there a program for windows mobile?
thank you in advance
I believe there are a few websites out there to send messages with, tmobile used to have a public SMS application, however I am unsure of any method of "relaying" an SMS message through the included pocket outlook sms handler to one of those sites transparently.
thank you. I still will be awaiting answers.
moyofalaye said:
thank you. I still will be awaiting answers.
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one approach might be to use an email server to bounce the messages to sms email addresses.
say you use the email side of the messaging app, either through synching to exchange or through a pop, imap or whatever, and point the email at the sms address, I forget what the tmobile address is, but for example it would be like [email protected]
I guess that semi solves the problem without any programming, you would just need each carrier's email address, and specify a return address that would go to your phone for when they SMS back.
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moyofalaye said:
thank you. I still will be awaiting answers
previous:H6315(hell in gadget form), Tmo original xda PPCPE.
CaptDistraction, you need to be creative about the 6315; I gave mine to my wife when I upgraded to to 8125. Got rid of the memory hogs and you can't imagine how our relationship has improved, we now talk about the same techy stuff; she complaing, I fixing by the way she no longer complains about how much time I spend with my phone, cause she's now doing the same. Now we have no time to talk to each other...... :twisted:
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Haha, I tried every rom out there, I kept the device for a while and finally sold it to support the MDA purchase.
Man I messed with that 6315 to no end, had so much stuff going on with it trying different app combos, spent hours in the registry, no matter how simple I kept it, I couldn't ever get it to answer calls in a timely fashion.
My biggest love with the MDA is when you press that green answer button, it immediately picks up the call.
Hey guys,
Just been browsing around the net lately and see that you can send free text messages from certain web sites and now i hear ICQ. BUT, I was wondering if anyone here had written a program that will actually use the GPRS connection from our Data Plan to send out text messages? I know its a long shot, but i think it could work.
Reason : When you goto these sites . . (Ex. txtdrop.com; smseverywhere.com; etc) they allow you to send free text messages to almost any wireless carrier, some even just have you put in United States and then the number and it finds it for you. So i was thinking . . . Why not make a program that will do the same thing using those web-sites or something, and instead of putting your name in where it says "you name" you just have it put in your wireless number so they can respond. SO, ur only getting charged for receiving txt messages.
I thought this up because i am with cingular myself here is the USA, and their plans are either 4.99 for 200 messages sent and received, or 19.99 for 3,000 sent and received!!! I already pay 39.99 for my F***IN unlimited data plan, WHY NOT USE IT!!!! If anyone can think of a way to get this to work, that would be AMAZING!!
I've heard there are programs that use ICQ to send and recieve free texts to phones but i haven't found anything for Windows Mobile. If someone knows of a way, or can think of an easy fix, please feel free to let me know ASAP!
i was speaking with a cingular sales manager i worked with. at the time my tmobile contract was up. and she wanted me to switch bad.. and i said only thing in my way is hte lack of unlimited txt msging. and she called around and talk to her bosses and they told her nothing they can do cingular doesnt believe enough people txt more than 3000 txt in an out a month and i resigned with tmobile 9.99 unlimited on all my family plan phones. as far as a company stand point they wont offer fair txt rates to anyone. but i doubt you can send txt via data it has to be done on a cellular level. maybe those sites have a server set up to acually connect to a wireless network at some point and push out those txt msgs
set up a push email account that is free like i have from mail2web. now here is the secret. you can email a text message to any phone with (phone number)@(serviceprovider).com but who actually knows what service their friends have. a service from teleflip will automatically convert the domain name to the proper provider. so all u have to do is email the [email protected] through push and they can reply back and it will go to your push email box.
i even saved my most used friends teleflip phone number as an email address so i can quickly communicate with them
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set up a push email account that is free like i have from mail2web. now here is the secret. you can email a text message to any phone with (phone number)@(serviceprovider).com but who actually knows what service their friends have. a service from teleflip will automatically convert the domain name to the proper provider. so all u have to do is email the [email protected] through push and they can reply back and it will go to your push email box.
i even saved my most used friends teleflip phone number as an email address so i can quickly communicate with them
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Please check your PM to help me out with this. I know ur probably busy, but it would not only benefit me, but EVERY person on thuis board with cingular!! Thanx soo much
1) How to setup push e-mail on my phone (8125 running 3.3 V2 rom)
a. i set it up in activesync. connect device. tools/add server source and for the server type mobile.exchange.mail2web.com and the username is your [email protected]
domain:ad2 password is the one u made
2) Do i need to have a particular kind of e-mail? Like a special yahoo account? (Cause i don't think yahoo or hotmail allow you to grab you FREE e-mail account using pop3 or smtp) Or can I get one at that Mail2web.com site? If so, where?
a.you want mail2web live which is free. u can also set your other email to forward to your mail2web account. ex. i forward my yahoo mail to my mail2web which is pushed to my phone
3) When someone receives the text message, will they be sending a text back to me and will i be charged for that text? Or will it be sent automatically back to that e-mail address and then i can have it grabbed by push e-mail and cost me nothing?
a. yes if the other person presses reply to the text you get it sent back to your push email box which makes it free.
4) is there a big delay in how long it takes them to get the text sending it this way? (ie. is it slower then sending it through sms on my phone?)
a. never actually tested but i imagine it probably a little more time because it runs though a couple of extra servers. though very minimal. maybe an extra minute at most. i can still have conversations with the push email/txt solution
here is a tip:
when sending a email txt to someone for the first time. put your name at the end. they probably will have no clue who u are and let them know to hit reply when they msg u back
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I mean, who doesn't want free text messaging!!
Been doing it for 2 days now and it works almost flawlessly. Sometimes people don't get them for a little while, but i can live with an extra 3 min to save myself the 19.99 3000 limit!!!!
I still have my 4.99 200 msg serice so my friends can text me at will, but i will ALWAYS reply back by this method to save texts!
Grinny11 deserves all credit for this!!! I just brought it out into the open!
Thanx Grinny11!! U DA MAN!!
looks good
but is here uk version of this has anyone found a web site in uk that wil work the same way as ive tested this and it dont work for me with 0797 ect or +44797ect
Globalrebel said:
Hey guys,
I thought this up because i am with cingular myself here is the USA, and their plans are either 4.99 for 200 messages sent and received, or 19.99 for 3,000 sent and received!!! I already pay 39.99 for my F***IN unlimited data plan, WHY NOT USE IT!!!! If anyone can think of a way to get this to work, that would be AMAZING!!
ASAP!
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Man you should look into the media max packages. I have the media max 200 and that's unlimited data, 200 any type messages. all for $19.99. Booyah.
T-Mobile USA: 14.99 Unlimited Text, Picture and Video messages...
will this ever be possible to be done with software on out phones? Or is it something ATT does on their end just for the iphones? I saw a screen shot of it and thought it would be awesome to have it for the Tilt like that.
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will this ever be possible to be done with software on out phones? Or is it something ATT does on their end just for the iphones? I saw a screen shot of it and thought it would be awesome to have it for the Tilt like that.
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callwave.com is similar. almost all the features, plus a couple more and "Virtual Voicemail". I've been using it for 6 weeks now. Its pretty good.
i will check it out, is it a monthly fee or onetime software buy?
I use callwave as well. You can set it to send you a text message with a translation of the voice mail. Also I have it send me email which gets pushed to my phone; the email contains the text translation as well as the wav file of the message.
It's free for now. It is in "beta". I have little doubt that eventually google will gobble this one up like it did with GrandCentral and that'll be good.
callwave is free right now, and it is superior to visual voice mail in a couple key areas (translation of voice to text being the biggest) the ownly downside is that you don't have a cute visual display to delete/listen to vm, but you can access it through the web, I have my login page bookmarked on my phone.
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the ownly downside is that you don't have a cute visual display to delete/listen to vm, but you can access it through the web, I have my login page bookmarked on my phone.
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That's a pretty damn big downside as far as I'm concerned. I want voicemail as voicemail, not email or sms. When they work out a PPC frontend, they'll have a lot more customers.
I wanted that too so, I did this:
1) I got a FREE GrandCentral.com account
2) I bought a copy of MagiCall (SMS Filter)
3) I set GrandCentral to forward all inbound calls to voicemail and then notify via SMS my cellphone when a new message arrives
4) I set my phone's voicemail number to be my GrandCentral number
5) I logged onto GrandCentral on my PIE and made a favorite to that site and then using file explorer copied the shortcut from my favorites folder to my programs folder in the windows directory
6) I created a MagiCall rule that checked SMS messages as they arrived, if they came from grandcentral, they were suppressed from notification, deleted from my phone, and then MagiCall is to launch my m.grandcentral.com favorite.
The net result is:
I receive a phone call, my phone forwards unanswered calls to GrandCentral, GrandCentral takes a message, GrandCentral sends an SMS message to my phone, my phone activates the rule, deletes the message and then opens the GrandCentral Mobile page.
Of course you need a data connection (just like iphone) but I have the option to get my messages either via my phone's page, email (forwarded to my companies email), or dial into my grandcentral phone number to retrieve my messages.
:-D my cost $25 bux for MagiCall .
It works well. If you can't figure out how to setup the Magicall script then don't ask me.
MC
i just saw this post and signed up. This is very nice. my only concern is how much it will cost when beta is done. but i love the way this works. no more annoying ass vmail sign at the top of my screen!
I also signed up for callwave, seems pretty nice. Just wish i could change the email format from HTML to text now, just annoying to scroll through the message lol.
I use simulscribe both on my Blackberry and Tilt
Voice mails show up as mp3 files on the device, which you can play..foward ..rewind to your pleasure
Been working great for the past few months
Wow I signed up for this an its awesome.
Seriously.. it sends a text to me with the voicemail transcribed. It even spelled my name right!
Now, can i get it to recognize who the text is comming from instead of 1010100003? If I could get that to read "Voicemail" that would be awesome.
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I wanted that too so, I did this:
1) I got a FREE GrandCentral.com account
2) I bought a copy of MagiCall (SMS Filter)
3) I set GrandCentral to forward all inbound calls to voicemail and then notify via SMS my cellphone when a new message arrives
4) I set my phone's voicemail number to be my GrandCentral number
5) I logged onto GrandCentral on my PIE and made a favorite to that site and then using file explorer copied the shortcut from my favorites folder to my programs folder in the windows directory
6) I created a MagiCall rule that checked SMS messages as they arrived, if they came from grandcentral, they were suppressed from notification, deleted from my phone, and then MagiCall is to launch my m.grandcentral.com favorite.
The net result is:I w
I receive a phone call, my phone forwards unanswered calls to GrandCentral, GrandCentral takes a message, GrandCentral sends an SMS message to my phone, my phone activates the rule, deletes the message and then opens the GrandCentral Mobile page.
Of course you need a data connection (just like iphone) but I have the option to get my messages either via my phone's page, email (forwarded to my companies email), or dial into my grandcentral phone number to retrieve my messages.
:-D my cost $25 bux for MagiCall .
It works well. If you can't figure out how to setup the Magicall script then don't ask me.
MC
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I essentially tried exactly what you did but instead of GrandCentral, I tried it with Callwave (can't get a GrandCentral account ). It works great up until I get to my callwave homepage. The listen to voicemail button doesn't come up. It's a flash app so installed Flash but it still won't come up.
Anyone else know of any free services other than callwave and grandcentral? does anyone know how I can get a Grand Central account?
bimbot said:
I essentially tried exactly what you did but instead of GrandCentral, I tried it with Callwave (can't get a GrandCentral account ). It works great up until I get to my callwave homepage. The listen to voicemail button doesn't come up. It's a flash app so installed Flash but it still won't come up.
Anyone else know of any free services other than callwave and grandcentral? does anyone know how I can get a Grand Central account?
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I'll send you an invite to Grandcentral if you PM me your email.
youmail.com - by far the best for vmail as email attachments.
www.youmail.com
i've been using them for awhile now... It's free... all you do is sign up for an account and change your "voicemail" number to their number... which means it's 100% reversible.
From the account settings on the website... I turn off text message notifier and have voicemails sent to my gmail account as an mp3 attachment. This with push email delivers voicemail immediately to my phone.
Why it's better than grandcentral (which I also have and use for other things... love that service)... I do not have to log in through pie to get my voicemails... they are mp3 or wav attachments in pocket outlook inbox... that .. and all my voicemails are stored in my gmail account...
Just my .02 cents... but this is easily the best solution for voicemail... no more vmail notifications on the phone either... (I HATE THAT LITTLE SYMBOL).
Mark
How big are the .mp3 files? Just looking at data usage, and how long they will take to download!
I've been trying out Callwave but seems to me their voice recognition software is lacking. Very frequently they mess up on the "gist" of the message.
Saint - PM sent, Thanks!
Caswell - thanks for the heads up. I set up an account Lovin' it so far.
when I try to loing to callwave, I cant get past the submit button.. PIE just does nothing when I clcik the submit button. Callwave says that it is a javascript issue. How to I install javascript for wm6?
ntwrkwizard said:
I wanted that too so, I did this:
1) I got a FREE GrandCentral.com account
2) I bought a copy of MagiCall (SMS Filter)
3) I set GrandCentral to forward all inbound calls to voicemail and then notify via SMS my cellphone when a new message arrives
4) I set my phone's voicemail number to be my GrandCentral number
5) I logged onto GrandCentral on my PIE and made a favorite to that site and then using file explorer copied the shortcut from my favorites folder to my programs folder in the windows directory
6) I created a MagiCall rule that checked SMS messages as they arrived, if they came from grandcentral, they were suppressed from notification, deleted from my phone, and then MagiCall is to launch my m.grandcentral.com favorite.
The net result is:
I receive a phone call, my phone forwards unanswered calls to GrandCentral, GrandCentral takes a message, GrandCentral sends an SMS message to my phone, my phone activates the rule, deletes the message and then opens the GrandCentral Mobile page.
Of course you need a data connection (just like iphone) but I have the option to get my messages either via my phone's page, email (forwarded to my companies email), or dial into my grandcentral phone number to retrieve my messages.
:-D my cost $25 bux for MagiCall .
It works well. If you can't figure out how to setup the Magicall script then don't ask me.
MC
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Wow, all that and it still doesn't quite work like visual voice mail. Makes you appreciate how well Apple did with simplifying the whole delivery of this although it is probably why they require the data plan with the iPhone. I don't know it is worth $20 per month for this alone though. Sure, my wife occasionally uses Google Maps or Safari over Edge, but could easily live with the WiFi connction only.
At any rate, I'd say in 5 years time, all voice mail will have this visual component and be available form both your handheld, and the web.
Callwave
Seems that Callwave is now out of beta and charging a pretty penny for monthly or annual usage. Oh well.
I don't have a texting plan or a data plan, however i do have wifi. So i was wondering if anybody knew of a program for pocket pc that lets you send and receive texts through data, rather than sms. I know i don't have wifi everywhere, but it's better than nothing. Thanks
Nobody? Any way?
kareem9nba said:
I don't have a texting plan or a data plan, however i do have wifi. So i was wondering if anybody knew of a program for pocket pc that lets you send and receive texts through data, rather than sms. I know i don't have wifi everywhere, but it's better than nothing. Thanks
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To my knowledge there isn't a program that does that, and there won't be.
You can setup an imer to send instant messages. The only way to send txt messages is through a texting plan with your cell provider.
with some providers, you can send an email to the recipient and it will go through as an sms. or you can use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347726
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with some providers, you can send an email to the recipient and it will go through as an sms.
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but, of course, it's an sms. Something the original poster was trying to avoid.
You paid about $400 for the phone, just fork up the $5 a month for a text plan. I pay $8 for unlimited txts.
Yea i tried the emailing method and it wasn't reliable at all. O well, thanks for the help. If anybody knows anything else, then please say it, thanks.
I don't pay for unlimited texts. I get them for free.
the e-mail thing is great, but they cant reply to them reliably.. and if they do, they do it as an SMS...
SMS's are great because just about all phones can do them.. beyond that you will need to be chatting with other friends with smartphones, and find software that lets you do it by a data connection (Doesn't Blackberry connect do that?)
u can email a phone number(u would send from your email, and i would recieve it as an sms) as long as u know that cell company's email address... ex. for at&t my cell's email is [email protected] then it comes in just like an SMS message. each carrier should have this option...
I used the search function but didn't get any definitive answers..
What are some good AIM clients that to some certainty don't end up counting as Text/IM by AT&T? Or, which clients use Text/IM so I can avoid them?
Also, which of the data-based clients allow you to click on links sent in messages? Neither the included AIM client on my Fuze nor the official AIM for Windows Mobile allow me to click or highlight text in the messages. Major flaw IMO.
I never text message, yet right now I see a 170 message usage under my phone number which I realize to be my AIM usage. At 20 cents each, I'm sure as hell going to stop that.
Any suggestions would be great, I just need a starting point.
EDIT:
Any other AT&T charges I should know about? :\
.. Alright so all the replies are gone, that's fine. The only unanswered question for me is..
Does anyone know if AOL's own AIM client, the one here:
http://mobile.aol.com/aolproducts/aim-for-windows-mobile
uses text/SMS or data? I'd really like to know for sure.
I use Palringo. Im not sure if its a txt deal, ive never cared i have unlimited, but the program is awesome. Just be aware that if you leave it on you battery with drop about 10% an hour.