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Today windows ce6 was launched. can anyone tell me if this will work on a qtek 9100 ? currently running win mobile 5
Don't think so buddy .
"Released" means to manufacturers and developers. You and I will probably never see it on any device currently available.
It'll still be 4-6 months before any devices come to market with it...
4-6 months?
hehe.
Windows Mobile 6.0 will be released in 2008.
Platform Builder
Well, I've gotten my grubby little hands on the Ce6 platform builder, which should allow me to make a rom. Unfortunately, it requires a hefty amount of configuring to get it to work. When I get some time, I'll see if I can make a rom.
-Jim
I have also gotten the embedded CE6, when I have some time I'll check it out. See if it can be installed on the Wizard
plasticbiker: is that with a full HTC bsp, or just the generic non OEM version?
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myx4ever said:
Today windows ce6 was launched. can anyone tell me if this will work on a qtek 9100 ? currently running win mobile 5
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Would be nice to have a stable WM5 first...........
This is not what I was led to beleive it was, this is for developers and manufacturers who want to pay $1000+ for all the software. Maybe someone who is a hardcore programming hobbyist can help us, other than that I think we get to wait.
any chance of you shareing your embedded CE6 alone it may take awhile but if we all work together thing will go alot faster as u know
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Here's a link to the article:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5716.html
And here's a link to the trial:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/emb...val/trial.mspx
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this is what i downloaded
vijay555 said:
plasticbiker: is that with a full HTC bsp, or just the generic non OEM version?
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I have just the basic Platform Builder that MS is giving out.
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My experience with WM5 platform builder leads me to believe that it won't be a trivial task to create something that is actually usable on the wizard. One needs to migrate drivers and such from WM5. Odds are, unfortunately, that the WM5 drivers will not be compatiable. Microsoft is claiming Ce6 is a complete rewrite.
well i searched already and could not really find a answer. i want to upgrade my rom from a wm6.0 to the wm6.1 i read on microsoft page that its for vista, well at this time i have xp. can i still do it?
streetknight said:
well i searched already and could not really find a answer. i want to upgrade my rom from a wm6.0 to the wm6.1 i read on microsoft page that its for vista, well at this time i have xp. can i still do it?
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That's bull. The ROM doesn't care on your OS, you can use MacOS for all it cares. If you have flashed a 6.0 ROM before then just flash a 6.1 ROM.
Note: you will have to Flash a 6.1 compatable radio, if it isn't included in the ROM.
If you hav'nt flashed before, read the Getting Started Link in my sig.
Ta,
Dave
What 6.1 ROM are you speaking about? One of the many cooked ROMs found in this forum or the M$ official one?
the microsoft rom, i have never done a rom burn just read up on it and consider it. kinda want to let my phone be atleast a month old before i start to burn new roms.
As far as I know the M$ 6.1 ROM has not been released but just officially announced and it's up to the manufactures to release it. I could be wrong but thats how I read it.
you are looking at a page for Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 for Vista, a desktop interface...
...not Windows Mobile 6.1
Here's a really naive question - if WM 6.1 hasn't been officially announced or released (least of all for the Kaiser) where do the various cooked versions of it come from, and how does anyone know that they're definitely the full 6.1, and not just some prototype-like sample? I mean, isn't there a chance that the actual 6.1 that MS announce and HTC start releasing for phones will be different?
Boinng said:
Here's a really naive question - if WM 6.1 hasn't been officially announced or released (least of all for the Kaiser) where do the various cooked versions of it come from, and how does anyone know that they're definitely the full 6.1, and not just some prototype-like sample? I mean, isn't there a chance that the actual 6.1 that MS announce and HTC start releasing for phones will be different?
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Thats a secret of our chefs.
You may be talking at cross-purposes but there is this posting recently on the windows mobile blog
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/04/01/announcing-windows-mobile-6-1.aspx
streetknight said:
the microsoft rom, i have never done a rom burn just read up on it and consider it. kinda want to let my phone be atleast a month old before i start to burn new roms.
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That's what I did. I think this way is best cos when you flash you REALLY feel the speed increase
But just for clarification, as boomermax said, were you looking at Windows Mobile Device Centre? If so, this is Vista's version of ActiveSync, ActiveSync can no longer be used in Vista.
Inquiry About Windows Mobile 6.1
I sent HTC an e-mail inquiring about the ROM release of Windows Mobile 6.1 for the AT&T Tilt and this was there response.
Hello Matthew,
Thank you for your inquiry
We know it is very important to have all the information on our devices. We will do our best to assist you with this information right away. HTC has no official documentation or details about the use or release of Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1. As you may be aware, all updates for our devices can be located at their respective regional web sites. If any future updates will be available for the AT&T Tilt , you will undoubtedly find it on our support web pages listed below:
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=67
I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
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Also the e-mail I sent to AT&T asking the same question, was told that the manufacturer (HTC) would be providing a ROM update if there was one... So apparently it's still a mystery!
I'd just like to point out that theres an "official" wm6.1 rom out there that vodafone use...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365058
...just incase you didnt find it before. it comes with the correct radio, and even tho its "vodafone", ive been using tmobile on it fine, so it doesnt matter if youre not using voda
Officially the Official ????
billgatessucks said:
I'd just like to point out that theres an "official" wm6.1 rom out there that vodafone use...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365058
...just incase you didnt find it before. it comes with the correct radio, and even tho its "vodafone", ive been using tmobile on it fine, so it doesnt matter if youre not using voda
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I see official ROMs all over XDA!!!What makes this one any different? When I see an Official ROM from the manufacture, then I'll be happy....
but why would a company such as vodafone not use an official rom?
or are you implying that this was never from vodafone?
but yea, if micropoop pull their finger out and release wm6.1 or even wm7, that would be nice...
billgatessucks said:
but why would a company such as vodafone not use an official rom?
or are you implying that this was never from vodafone?
but yea, if micropoop pull their finger out and release wm6.1 or even wm7, that would be nice...
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I'm just saying that if I goto the Manufacture or carriers web site and see the official Update, then I will be happy and believe it's official. Most of the WM6.1 ROMs in this forum have come from leaked versions or something like that. I think It's top secret!
ahhh i see what you mean...
...tho, i'd be very suprised if vodafone actually put up useful information/updates on their site
So much for any support from iNavCorp! Here is the time line of events which began with the opening of a Service Request with iNavCorp on Thursday, August 28th.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Description of Problem - I have Windows Mobile 6.1 on my AT&T Tilt Pocket PC. iGuidance recognizes my internal GPS, obtains signal lock on satellites without a problem, but does not automatically refresh the map. I know for a fact that this is not an issue between iGuidance and the devices\'s \'built in\' GPS receiver because the GPS Info screen displays in \'real time\' (speed/coordinates etc. all match up with movement and speed of vehicle). It appears to only be an issue with the map display, which will no longer display movement in \'real-time\'. It will capture a given map location and speed, and hold them until the screen is manually refreshed. I am familiar with the \'panning mode\' for the map, and am certain that it is not the issue as I am not viewing the map in panning mode. I see no updates available, other than your recent v4.02 update, which I have applied. The problem still remains. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated, as I am sure there are many others with this identical issue. I have paid good money for navigation software that is at this time, completely useless. I look forward to your prompt response. Sincerely, Jeff Spencer~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~...followed by their reply, received late afternoon on Friday, August 29th
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Hi Jeff:
iGuidance worked fine w/ the built-in gps in HTC until recently after HTC released their new ROM w/ wm6.1. W/ this new ROM on your Tilt, iGuidance will now only work w/ either an external GPS, or w/ the built-in gps but by using the universal serial port driver provided through a 3rd party program such as GPSGate from www.franson.com instead. If you choose to go w/ the 2nd option, please note that the basic version would be sufficient.
Thank you and we apologize for the inconvenience.
Support Team
www.inavcorp.com~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~....and finally my reply to them
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~The very reason that I picked up the Tilt was so that I would not be required to carry around additional components.
Thanks for what you ridiculously refer to as support.
To tell you the honest truth, I am now highly dissatisfied with iNavCorp and your product. I would expect at the very least (at least from a reputable company that stands behind it's product) a forthcoming patch, or work with the phone vendor to provide a patch, that would provide a no-cost universal serial port driver to correct the issue with your application. I now see how well you stand behind iGuidance and will invariably sell it off. Furthermore, as a Systems Administrator with [national company name omitted]., I will have no trouble whatsoever going out of my way to disparage your product and use this instance as an example as to just how poor the support is with your company and how inflexible your product is.
Furthermore, as a member of such forums as; GPS Passions, AT&T, and XDA Developers, I fully intend to post both my request for support and your reply, as stated below to each and every one of these forums and strongly urge others to do the same.
Honestly, did you see NVIDIA say "sorry" to Windows customers who had upgraded to Microsoft Vista? I don't think so. Stand behind and support your product, or face the backlash of the consumer.
Sincerely,
Jeff Spencer
Verona~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I have made good on my words to iNavCorp. I now urge anyone else as irritated (perhaps mentally disturbed) as I am, to make their voices heard by opening service requests on their own. Sure we can install GPSGate on our devices, or purchase an external GPS receiver, but what kind of response is it from a company to direct customers of their product to do so!! As stated in my reply to them, would NVIDIA have told it's customers "too bad", but you can purchase something else because you chose to upgrade to Windows Vista and now our graphics card won't work as advertised? HELL NO!!!
...okay, time for me to grab a beer and cool off.
Regards,
Spence
Here is an update - iNavCorp's reply to me
Hi Jeff:
Please note that the incompatibility is not between iGuidance and windows mobile OS, but only between iGuidance and the HTC driver. Further, HTC's new ROM was released much later after iGuidance v4 was released, and being a small company, HTC will not be able to work us on our request. Our programmers have been looking at this issue and if a solution may be determined, we will make sure it's included in iGuidance 2009. If not, we will continue to include the incompatiblity w/ HTC on our website as we do now to minimize their inconvenience.
Thank you.
Support Team
www.inavcorp.com
My reply
iNavCorp,
Please excuse my error, it is indeed HTC and not AT&T's hardware, however HTC is far from the small company that you described as "being a small company, HTC will not be able to work us on our request".
HTC makes over 80% of mobile phones running the Windows OS. Please read up on HTC and educate your staff on this 'small company'.
http://www.htcamerica.net/about/default.html
I shall contact HTC and pursue this with them, and ask them why they are too small to work with correcting an issue with your product.
As for my chances of purchasing iGuidance 2009 if you can't support your current product? ...I'd say the chance of that is about as good as my chance at winning a write-in campaign for the 2008 presidential elections.
Thank you for providing me with another opportunity to post and ridicule your poor customer support.
Jeff Spencer
a second reply that I had received while typing my reply
Hi Jeff:
Please note that the incompatibility is not between iGuidance and windows mobile OS, but only between iGuidance and the HTC driver. Further, HTC's new ROM was released much later after iGuidance v4 was released, and being a small company, HTC will not be able to work us on our request. Our programmers have been looking at this issue and if a solution may be determined, we will make sure it's included in iGuidance 2009. If not, we will continue to include the incompatiblity w/ HTC on our website as we do now to minimize their inconvenience.
Thank you.
Support Team
www.inavcorp.com
My follow-up reply
I apologize for the terse nature of my prior message. I have just realized that I have mis-understood your comment about being a small company.
I believe the reply you had sent me (below) was worded in such a way that left the impression that you were referring to HTC as a small company.
I have later received a message indicating that you are working on identifying the incompatibility and provide a fix. I appreciate that, I really do, however please don't preach to me about not being able to be 100% compatible. iGuidance 4 was compatible with my AT&T Tilt, and now it is not. As a customer, I do not care, who made what driver change at what point in time. The fact of the matter, as your product, you are obligated to support it. Simply removing every device that changes from your list of compatible products will do little other than shrink your install base and alienate your paying customers.
I thank you for your attention to this issue, and look forward to an agreeable solution.
Jeff Spencer
Verona
I'm done for now. I am planning to contact HTC, to make them aware of the issue and ask if they can put one of their support team members in touch with iGuidance, but I've a 5 year old to put down for the night, followed shortly after by myself.
Cheers,
Spence
Joe has already corrected this.
Search iGuidance in these forums and you will find it.
cyjeff said:
Joe has already corrected this.
Search iGuidance in these forums and you will find it.
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Thanks cyjeff, I had done that, but hadn't seen anything recent. I must have been too specific in my search. I've checked iNavCorp's site and the now have the issue listed as an incompatibility that they are working on.
**** Note: iGuidance is incompatible w/ the new ROM released by HTC which enabled the internal gps chip. iGuidance will continue to work with an external gps receiver while using PPC6800/Mogul, but in order for iGuidance to work w/ the internal gps, user will need to download/purchase Franson's GPSGate (express or standard version) via http://franson.com/gpsgate/
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Regards,
Spence
Thanks again cyjeff!
It took a bit to find it, but after searching on "iGuidance" and "Joe", I've got Joe's work-around.
Here it is for anyone else stumbling upon this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2114969&postcount=40
Thanks,
Spence
SpenceJT said:
Thanks again cyjeff!
It took a bit to find it, but after searching on "iGuidance" and "Joe", I've got Joe's work-around.
Here it is for anyone else stumbling upon this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2114969&postcount=40
Thanks,
Spence
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You are welcome.
It works like a champ... I have used it myself.
Funny iNavCorp appears to have been out-done by an enterprising developer posting in forums!
I've installed the cab and am off to do some testing. I have no doubt it will work. I am thankful that we've got a forum such as this, where people can assist each other. I'll have to donate or send a 'cookie' to this "Joe" guy!
Regards,
Spence
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Funny iNavCorp appears to have been out-done by an enterprising developer posting in forums!
I've installed the cab and am off to do some testing. I have no doubt it will work. I am thankful that we've got a forum such as this, where people can assist each other. I'll have to donate or send a 'cookie' to this "Joe" guy!
Regards,
Spence
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Well, you can put them in the same boat as the guys from ATT, HTC, Microsoft and a multitude of other software providers that get "help" from the volunteers here.
Good luck getting any kind of real support from iNav. After spending a couple hundred on what they call "updates" which are minor bug fixes, I will never spend a dime on this company. When I purchased version 3, WM6 came out which was incompatible with this version. Instead of releasing a fix, iNav released version 4 which is no different than version 3 (slightly newer map), and charged $80. When I initially had problems with version 4 getting to work, I always got generic email telling me that it was either my phone or the OS i was running.
I am not even sure how many programmers they have. It might be a one person venture under the disguise of "Corp". If they are such a small company, they should not call themselves a Corporation.
actually, v4 is a big step forward w/ TTS. But with a big step backward by taking out the option to cut map.
BTW, where do you get 4.02 update and what's being update/fix in this release?
Did you guys also notice the single post in that thread about the DNS server change that also corrects the problem. There is another thread out there about this as well. If you change your DNS servers to Open DNS, vs using the default that ATT is providing, for whatever reason it fixes the issues w/ iGuidance. I'm still running 3.0.1 but planning on upgrading to 2009 when it's available.
Anyway, just thought I'd mention that, it's the route I went rather than the other options...using Open DNS isn't such a bad idea anyway.
Chris
Thanks This worked great for me. I will have to rethink my next iguidance purchase. I think they are going to force the ole' extra SD Card like garmin does.
AT&T plus iGuidance = Headache
verendus said:
Good luck getting any kind of real support from iNav. After spending a couple hundred on what they call "updates" which are minor bug fixes, I will never spend a dime on this company. When I purchased version 3, WM6 came out which was incompatible with this version. Instead of releasing a fix, iNav released version 4 which is no different than version 3 (slightly newer map), and charged $80. When I initially had problems with version 4 getting to work, I always got generic email telling me that it was either my phone or the OS i was running.
I am not even sure how many programmers they have. It might be a one person venture under the disguise of "Corp". If they are such a small company, they should not call themselves a Corporation.
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I agree so much with everything you said. I spent $69.00 on my program about 3 years ago and I'll never give them another dime. Thank God for Joe and if I had it to do over again, I'd buy CO-PILOT LIVE. What a nice looking program that is.
THIS ISNT WAREZ ITS THE 15 DAY UNLESS YOU REGISTER...ENJOY
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This is warez
it has never been released to the public yet
mods please delete the links cause this has not been released to the public yet for sale
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com
this is the developers website
they only show 2.0 as of april 16,2009
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This is warez
it has never been released to the public yet
mods please delete the links cause this has not been released to the public yet for sale
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com
this is the developers website
they only show 2.0 as of april 16,2009
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It's on their servers: mod - link removed
THIS IS THE DEVELOPERS LINK
keyword developers link
it is for developers only and not for the general public just yet
Soooo all the versions of opera mobile, ie6, ie7, ie8, ROM parts from unreleased phones are warez? You still have to buy mobile shell 3.0...its not cracked hacked or otherwise. I don't see it any different than a ROM dump or here's a big one winmo 6.5!!
Herg, it's not warez It's just alpha or beta. None of the roms we have are released yet, they're leaked. This is a leaked trial. So technically it's not.
and btw, did you ever port Xtrakt to VGA?
can anyone confirm this is working?
Thanks,
I have been waiting on this one since the MWC announcement. Performing a backup and and then gonna test it out.
it works perfect... just waiting on some1 to get the key for it to make it full version... ( if u know what i mean)
uglynip1980 said:
it works perfect... just waiting on some1 to get the key for it to make it full version... ( if u know what i mean)
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Don't quote me on this, but I think if you actually stop being a cheapskate and buy the program you can get a key (if you know what I mean).
doest work/play well with TF3D V2 I can confirm this and that sux, maybe the final release will be better!!!
michelkenny said:
don't quote me on this, but i think if you actually stop being a cheapskate and buy the program you can get a key (if you know what i mean).
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MOD EDIT .....warez are not talked about here....if you want to do that i think you should move to another forum.
Has anyone tested it yet if it works with REAL VGA at 96 dpi? The official version 2 does not.
uglynip1980 said:
well if i can get it for free then why should i buy it??? its like all the ppl here, ppl that are using win 6.5.. its not for free.. u have to pay m/soft for it.. but the chef are just porting it over for us to use and to make it better for us to use.. it the same same thing... but different...if u know what i mean..
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youre ignorance is astounding!! Did you realize that when we all purchased our phones, we purchased the rights to a license. This license entitled us to a copy of WinMo. Everytime we flash, we keep flashing the same damn OS on to our devices.
If we use the ported the 6.5, its not official. Its something that some brilliant guys put together based on what they know. Its completely different then an actual release.
Its not the same thing. You did not purchase a device with a copy of Mobile Shell 3.0 already installed. This program is in development. Some dude, with a wife and kids, is working hard on the programming of this software, so all of us end users would turn around and pay the $30 for his hard work and countless hours.
Just because you are a cheap ass bastard doesnt mean you need to rip off all the hard working people at SPB. Its douchebags like you that give our community a bad reputation. The program isnt even released, so you cant even purchase a serial. But when it is released, I hope you can see past your ignorance, mature up, and take ownership of your very own registered copy..... if you know what I mean...
Not working...
Of course some of us really bought SPB MS 2, and would really like to take a sneak peak at what 3.0 offers. This download would be really usefull for that, were it not that it is overdue (Evaluation time left is set to 0 days after install).
What should be added to SPB
What I would really like to see for new versions is:
1 Creating appointments in the mobile shell, creating contacts etc. Let's say I would really like it to be extended to a finger friendly PIM utility. But I'm affraid that's to much to ask...
2 Also that the appointment notification is hidden from within SPB is really a shame, that should be fixed right away. My alarm goes off every morning, and than I need to close SPB and use manilla to turn off the alarm.
I'm still using a combo of the new Rhodium Manilla and SPB 2, with the WinMo65 skin which looks really nice, but is a bit too slow. I like the calender tab of Rhodium manilla, and also what they did with the contacts. I like the weather application and the missed calls/texts of SPB.
uglynip1980 said:
well if i can get it for free then why should i buy it??? its like all the ppl here, ppl that are using win 6.5.. its not for free.. u have to pay m/soft for it.. but the chef are just porting it over for us to use and to make it better for us to use.. it the same same thing... but different...if u know what i mean..
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I've got a Fuze and the upgrade to 6.5 is free for me, when it's officially released from HTC; that's what I was told by the sales rep when I bought the phone. Im running Sheps 6.5 Rom now - but I am anxious for the official release, so XDA chefs can make MS and HTC's work even better.
6.5 is not warez. It's not a release version and its not for sale yet because its not finished (seems close to finished tho). I definitely do backups.
SPB 3.0, so far, rocks IMO. It is not warez either (yet) because its obviously a trial. SPB 2.0 was pretty good too, and if you didn't pay for that, you are a cheap bastard as Chapmeister said before.
I consider this a leaked demo, possibly of a beta but I bet its a release candidate. Someone said its a developer release, not sure what that means exactly - but it's not "stolen" or "cracked"...
I've already decided to buy it, when it becomes release. I turn TF3D2 off and SPB 3 runs great. I really like TF3D2 also, so I'll use this time with SPB 3.0 to compare/contrast, but so far I think SPB got a lot of things right.
You sir, should be ashamed for using serialz, or whatever to avoid paying someone for their hard work. If I were you I would shut up and not be proud that you got something for free, that's being a low-life and as XDA is a website for DEVELOPERS, your position is most unwelcome.... I hope you understand.
any screenshots or observations of differences?
I have (and paid for) Mobile Shell 2.0 and love it. Would like to see what was changed.
Ok so i thought i would start looking at the files for MS3 and it seems that is uses the same type of *.dat files as MS2. Then i tried to extract them and found that the same extraction password used in MS2 works for the new files as well. So skinning should be about the same as before.
Extraction Password = b0fm18zq
Where can we buy a license for it!!!
SPB isnt selling it yet...I purchased 2.0 a long time ago and really liked it... How can I register 3.0?
So far 3.0 ROCKS!!! I really like SPB, they put out some great stuff! I also use their Phone and Time for the "rule based" profile switching and rock solid alarms!
3.0 takes it to the next level! Custom screen layout with 2 panels (kinda like the ipone sliding home screen)....
No issues yet, I just switched over to:
[ROM]WWE|Chrome series w/Rhodium manila
seems to be working fine with TF3D but I may turn it off! SPB has everything that I need!
Hi,
I'm sure we all are mighty upset with the creators of Windows 7 Phone.
After loving windows mobile for some years the new variant of the software for my beloved PDA manufacturer just doesn’t cut the mustard.
To all the developers out there is there a way of using this fantastic piece of hardware with an alternative OS, Android or WM6.5.
I have to say I’m so glad this phone comes with the job, as I won’t be sorry to see it go.
Buy an HD2, you'll have an HD7 with windows 6.5
I'm glad mine comes with WP7 though
be patient. give the devs some time. your favorite software will come to wp7 soon.
Please stop with those kind of thread and stop to post them in development section.
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