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I recently upgtraded my wizard to the clubimate 2.16.9.1 rom. Everything appears to be fine except one issue (ok two that battery is anoying ) at one point before and I dont know if it was with this rom or the stock tmobile rom from last december, but I had 2 programs accessing my gps without a problem. Now however I do not seem to be able to make that happen.
I have paired my bluetooth gps on com 6. I then went into the gps manager (which I enabled) and told it to use com8 for programs and com6 for the gps. Manage gps automatically is selected.
Any device that connects on the software port gets an error saying the port is not available. Any program that connects directly to the gps port works. Its as if the gps redirection stuff isnt actually working. If two programs try to use the same real port for the gps stuff they will fight each other and both lose data.
Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone have a solution?
I am about out of ideas on this ...
Got exactly the same problem with TT5...
I have the same problem.
I have my Holux GPSlim236 attached via Bluetooth to COM6. WiFiFoFum2 sees it just fine on COM6, so I know the device is working and sending data to my Wizard...
Under the GPS icon on the Control Panel, I have set the hardware port to COM6, the program port to COM8, and the "Manage GPS automatically" box checked.
If I'm understanding right, all programs should then be able to talk to COM8 and get GPS data. I even soft-rebooted to make sure my settings were saved, but WiFiFoFum2 still cannot open COM8 at all!
I've been messing with this all night to no avail.
rreinink and trixter, what GPS unit are you using? I wonder if it's a problem with the GPSlim? Though I don't see how, as it works fine directly, just not through WM5.0's GPS Intermediate Driver layer. Is it maybe a bug with GPSID?
-Pete
I had a similar problem with my Atom and couldn't get the GPS to connect properly when running Destinator. The best solution that I have found so far is a program called GPS Gate - it basically does what the WM5 GPS Manager SHOULD do, except GPS Gate actually works (at least it has for me - I have had no problems using my PPC with the bluetooth GPS and Destinator PN). You can download a trial version (and then purchase if you want to) at:
http://franson.com/gpsgate/download.asp?file=GpsGatePPC.zip&ok=1
Hope this helps.
I've just got the Vario III new from T-Mobile UK, and I just can't the GPS get to receive any signals. I guess there is no "in box" way of testing the GPS, so I downloaded MS Live Search, and in there the "Centre on GPS". Previously, I set the hardware to COM0, 4800 Baud, autostart GPS by appilcation. In Live Search, I equally set it to COM0.
When is press the "centra on GPS", the righ hand side orange LED starts blinking, and the message inside Live Search is something like "retrieving GPS datat", but that's it. Nothing more happens.
I've also tried it with TomTom, but no result here either, other than the message "invalid GPS data".
I've called T-Mobile support to find out if there's anything on their side that needs doing, but apparently not.
So, I'm pretty stuck. Does anyone have an idea what I could try? Thanks!
First off, never ever go into the External GPS settings in the control panel. The general consensus around here is that it almost always requires a hard reset after messing with that. If you did, make sure it's set to COM4, 4800 baud.
Make sure your apps are set to COM4, 4800 baud. If that fails, a hard reset may be in order.
Why did you set it to COM0? Did someone tell you to do that?
I set it to to COM0 just to try SOMETHING.
I guess a hard reset is in order
So I just leave the GPS settings be and don't even touch them, yes?
Ok, so I've just done a hard reset.
The one and only thing I've done is install Live Search.
In the prefs of it, COM4 was automatically selected.
Hit "centre on GPS", with absolutely no reaction other than "Getting GPS position".
Any further thoughts? Hardware fault? Software issue?
The signal from GPS satellites is very low powered. ANY obstructions to the sky can cause a failure. My handheld Garmin GPSs and my Tilt will not get a lock in the house. Outside; buildings, trees, land masses and clouds all prevent a good lock. From my experiences with the Tilt, I have to get out into the open and wait 5-10 minutes or more for a lock.
Download the new google mobile maps and try that. It seems to get a fix quickly and doesnt time out as quickly as the older version (and some other gps enabled apps).
Cool, I got it to work. I left the device outside on the balcony for 10 minutes, and Live Search did lock in on me.
I now downloaded Google Mobile Maps, but couldn't locate a GPS function (I downloaded it from their website). Am I blind?
The thing that worked for me was to install GPS Viewer (freeware, you can Google it) and then open GPS from there. It takes about a minute to connect but then it stays on and interfaces with Tomtom very well. Prior to running it, please also download and run QuickGPS (it comes as loaded software with Kaiser, you may have to download it also as freeware, helps keep the connection steady; it is advised to download QuickGPS once a week, this is as long as its effect lasts, don't know why). The combination of QuickGPS and GPSViewer works very well.
naujoks said:
I now downloaded Google Mobile Maps, but couldn't locate a GPS function (I downloaded it from their website). Am I blind?
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Menu | Track Location
Hmm no, I dont have that menu item. Maybe I got an older version of it after all?
It's "Menu | Show My Location" on mine.
BTW, I saw a trick on another thread which worked very well for me. Enable the GPS Photo option (by using Kaiser Tweak or tweaking the registry) and open that first. It seems to get a fix very quickly. Once it's got one, you can close it and open any other GPS program like google maps and it tracks instantly. I also have QuickGPS installed and updated so that probably helps too.
After hard resetting twice, I have never run the QuickGPS program and I get a fix every time in less than a minute, even inside my house (by a window).
One program I highly recommend never using until it is updated is Map4PDA. It killed my GPS, requiring a hard reset.
Download GPS Test, run and confirm signal strength by satellite. That should solve your issue or at least answer the question of functionality.
Hi guys,
After a few weeks of very limited usage of my Tilt GPS, one day I noted that any application was able to detect the GPS. After reading other posts I noted that the solution could be a hard-reset, which I did, however, even after trying several hard-resets and different radios and roms, my GPS is not being detected by GPS Test and GPS Viewer. However, I noted that when I select COM4 at 4800 kbps (disable scan and select a specific port), the GPS led flashes but I never get the GPS starting message (just a detecting GPS message). Any idea what could be wrong?... can the GPS be blocked or deactivated somehow?...
Any help would be appreciated!... Thanks!
couple things to make sure before returning your phone. When using HTC GPS tool, go into the satelite section and see if you at least picking up 1 satelite. Verify you are not inside a building and you are outside and you are giving it some time. Flash another rom and do these procedures again. If none of these work, then probably could be the phone. Good luck.
jfgarciamex said:
Hi guys,
After a few weeks of very limited usage of my Tilt GPS, one day I noted that any application was able to detect the GPS. After reading other posts I noted that the solution could be a hard-reset, which I did, however, even after trying several hard-resets and different radios and roms, my GPS is not being detected by GPS Test and GPS Viewer. However, I noted that when I select COM4 at 4800 kbps (disable scan and select a specific port), the GPS led flashes but I never get the GPS starting message (just a detecting GPS message). Any idea what could be wrong?... can the GPS be blocked or deactivated somehow?...
Any help would be appreciated!... Thanks!
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You need to be outside to get a satellite fix. It is almost impossible to get a satellite fix indoors. You also need QuickGPS (freeware) which updates the ephermeris info and lasts 6 days. This makes a satellite fix much quicker. Try that.
GPS antenna
The UART baud rate of the GPS port should be set on 57600. Probably the communication can be done at 4800 like the SIRF chinese module but try to put the correct baud rate and see if the handshake works more fast.
Since I use the phone mostly mobile in my car, I just got one antenna from this eBay seller.
This one have full 15 feet cable so I was able to clip on trunk cover, near the rear window. The antenna connector must be fully inserted in the phone enabling the path contact and at the first insertion you need to apply more force (as usual ).
The phone will sense the current flow by feeding the antenna LNA chip so there is no such thing of mechanical device to switch antennas (internal/external).
The sattelite signal almost double and sometimes up to 10 sats can easily be locked and fast.
GPS working again!!!!.... but how????
Guys,
I'm posting as just noticed something really weird, and to be honest I can not find why the GPS is working again. In my first post as I stated, the GPS was working fine (I have an unlocked tilt with HTC ROM). Then somehow, one day the GPS did not worked anymore (I used HTC GPS Tool, and as soon I opened the port, I did not got any messages at all, it just hang! and with GPS Test the GPS was never detected! - in both cases the GPS led flashed!). Now, after giving up with hard resets, going back to the original ROM, updating QuickGPS data, etc. just yesterday, when I on was meeting playing around went to GPS Test and voila GPS was detected again!!!!... and so far is working fine... I have no clue what fixed it! and, I'm wondering if it may had something to do with my carrier... any one has faced something similar?... any idea what happened?...
Hello,
I am trying since yesterday to make my GPS working, with no success. Everytime, I got the following message:
Cannot find port com. I do not know what the problem might be. I tried all Ports (from COM 0 to COM 12, and all Baud rates). Tried 3 differents GPS applications. Memory Map tells me for Port 0 GPS communication timeout...
In addition, I tried to play with the External GPS. I tried with Manage GPS automatically on and off. Still the same..
I begin to think my GPS unit is defective...
Any ideas would be appreciate.
Thanks very much in advance,
Philippe
did you change settings in the gps control panel?
the default settings can be left alone. COM4. Baud rate should be automatically handled and unless you enabled AGPS any baud rate will do, if you enabled AGPS then I think you have to use 2400 as your Baud.
I just noticed the GPS harddware port in setting, system External GPS is not saved when you click ente.
Exemple I choose COM4, and Baud rate: 4800. I click OK. When I reclick exernal GPS, Hardware, I have got ''none for GPS hardware port. I do not know if it might be one of the reason why the GPS does not work.
Note: I just flashed the new rom: 1.35.401.3 WWE. Might it be a bug in this ROM (just question?)
Philippe
I can cofirm TomTom working with COM4 and baud 57600. Signal pickup can be time hungry, tho. Sometimes I get a fix in 20 seconds, sometimes it takes as much as 10 minutes.
no problem using mapking...
Hello,
And thanks everybody for your help. I just updated to the new Elite 1 ROM, and now it works like a charm....Very good...
I do not know if there is many francophones on this forum, but there is a new french forum about the Diamond:
http://htc-touch-diamond.forumactif.info/index.htm
Not very busy yet, but....
Cheers,
Philippe
Same problem... The tomtom 6 don't detect my integrated gps... if i chose the wired and put ports like say before, it don't work too.. Any way for detect integrated gps?
Here are exactly my setting:
Setting system External GPS:
GPS program port: COM 4
GPS hardware port: None
Baud rate: 4800
Manage GPS automatically is checked.
So open your GPS program, choose COM Port 4, and baud rate: 4800.
Should work. If not, flashthe new Elite ROM. It could help too.
Philippe
I can't flash the rom, it will make the warranty expire... And the mobile isn't mine, it's destined to be selled, i work on a gsm shop...
got exactly opposite problem - when I leave these default settings in "External GPS" CPL, the Diamond will suck my batterry within several hours, as if the GPS was still ON. have found out that if I disable all settings in this CPL, it stops sucking power (but then I can't use the GPS, obviously) - any clues or solutions?
I HAD to enable Windows Mobile manages automatic in External GPS in 'settings'. Check if it is enabled.
Disabling it made GPS never work.
Strange?
Yes, unless I restored all settings to their original values (Virtual port - COM4, HW port - None, Managed access - checked), I was not able to use the GPS. But these were exactly the settings I was having the battery drain issue with... I miss the GPS LED indication vastly...
I am have this problerm too...
Solution : make hard reset.. no more!
And all will be ok ... about GPS.
i have same proplem
i have same proplem when i updat to the new rom 1.93
I have a similar Problem.
I Updates my ROM to the new branded one from O2-Germany and since then my GPS is not working anymore. in GPSMapware I get device.exe errors and TomTom7 keeps searching and searching and so on...
The old O2 ROM has no GPS problems and every software got a loc in about 10 - 20 seconds.
But the most intresting point is that my brother has a Diamond too and no GPS problems at all.
I think I will get a new one from O2 before flashing it and loose my warrenty
Telus CDMA Diamond
I've got problem too. First Diamond I had no problem with GPS, something happened with the phone I had to exchange, and new one (phone) GPS wouldn't pickup Sat. I'm on Telus CDMA. Maybe they removed physically on the second batch of Diamonds.
My GPS doesn't work too well either. I can usually get a fix eventually when outside with a clear view of the sky but in the car it is hopeless. I use TT7 and the GPS status screen shows that the Diamond can see maybe half a dozen satellites or so but with very low signal strength. The bars stay grey for ages and then eventually three or four will turn blue and all the time the battery is draining like crazy. I also have a Holux GPSlim 256 and with that I get a fix much faster and the signal strength is much higher. I can also use it in the car with no problem.
I have to say I'm pretty disappointed with the GPS performance of the Diamond and from the number of posts in this forum from people with similar problems I would suggest that there is a design flaw or very poor quality control. I had an XDA Orbit 2 for a while and that was far superior.
Me too
my diamond have the same problem too.
it was working with the old rom's and the early new
but later with new rom's it is locked, I don't know why or how to fix it.
then I back to the last good one but still locked.
it seem's working fine, because the software is detect the gps device and also detect it on port 4 and baud speed, but without signal any more.
I used Garmin, Destenator, iGo, fanaeen, and gps test.
and I try to use all avaliable solutions
I used all diamond rom's here and used all radio version's even the hardspl I changed it too with no succeed.
any advice would be help!
thanks in advanced
Hi,
I own two diamonds and I also found problems with the GPS in both of them. Probably mine is not the same you are describing. What I get is the following:
Running TT7, the GPS works but TT7 map in the screen remains in grey color. Rarely it shows color for some seconds and l"oses signal" again. It navigates, but no messages on proximity of POIs work. Also, when driving, if TT7 is forced to recalculate (every time I do not follow the instructions), it forgets about the required destination. In the GPS configuration option within TT7 it does not show satellites, the bars are empty and the coordinates shown are grey... but showing values!
Finally, I found the reason. I use Bluefire VPN, a piece of software to connect securely to my company. The GPS and Bluefire cannot live together.
I have tried everything: TomTom 6, changing COM port (many combinations)for the GPS, A-GPS on and off... No way.
It worked perfectly in P3600. I tried many ROMS and pieces of software without problems but in the Diamond I haven't been able.
Perhaps the reason is some resident code of Bluefire. Don't know. In any case, if this is a case similar to any of you, my advice is the following:
Hard reset, install TT7 and maps and test the GPS. If it works, start installing software until it crashes.
In my case, the GPS is always dead after the soft reset required after the installation of Bluefire, and it works again after another soft reset once Bluefire is uninstalled.
Hope it helps and hope somebody can also help me solve this issue.
SOLVED
Hi guys
Here is my solution.
First you have to flash 1.13.25.24 radio rom sometimes it can be solve the problem.If not you must open your phone with Htc service manual and find gps coaxial cable and check it.Sometimes it can be pulled out.Mine antenna was unconnected and gps couldnot find any satellites.Sorry for my bad english.
Hello all,
My GPS was working just fine with several applications like GPSed, the 'new' experia camera with geotagging and so on. Recently I installed CoPilot Live 8 and now wm is not allocating the right port to be used for GPS. Sometimes it just activates my bluetooth. I reset my device to its manufacturer defaults, but still it's not very stable. I also opened a ticket with ALK (CoPilot) support, but I'm hoping that someone has a tip on how I can restore wm. If I let wm manage my GPS settings, most appliactions, do not get the GPS signals. Google maps seems actually be the only one still working, meaning my GPS is not physically broken.
Is there any way I can tweak wm6.1 again so that it will find the correct comport to use for the GPS?
Hope anyone can help as this is quite annoying.
Thanks in advance,
Dan.
There is setting for that. It's called External GPS.
You can set which comport will internal GPS use there too, it's the first page.
Also each GPS application should at least have settings for selection the com port. Some even support native WM api.
Thanks
Thanks for your reply.
I tried that and GPS should be working on com4, but still I got issues with some applications I didn't use to have (gps related).
I will try to seek if there is another com port wich will work fine for all app's.
I was hoping I could keep it as being 'managed' by wm.
Thanks again for your reply!
Dan.
I don't understand that well too .. anyway here is my theory.
Managed by windows may mean two things.
1) Special treatment of com port. Normally only one application can use one com port. And you sometimes want to use more apps form GPS at once. So this specially handles the com port of GPS so it is available multiple times. You can turn this on on third tab of the GPS settings app mentioned above.
2) Using WM driver for GPS, not com port. There is something like that, Google maps can use port or 'windows managed', also Garmin software has either com or 'GPS intermediate driver'. Anyway this is set on application side. When you use this, no com port matters. However if you use com port, it must be the same number as preset on GPS settings, standard is com 4.
There are also other problem with GPS. Try this app:
http://www.chartcross.co.uk/products/WM00002_details.asp
It's simple GPS tester. Try that first, it finds the port and baud-rate of com connected GPS.
Also sometimes GPS does not work in any program, and it can be fixed by forcing re-download of Quick GPS data. Once I had situation where GPS kept loosing signal every 5 seconds, and forced re-download fixed it. So the Quick GPS data can get somehow bad, and it may cause problems too.