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problems installing 20070418_RUU_Trinity_LVSW_WWE_1.25.0.8_GPS_AKU3.5. 2

Hi All.
I just purchase a new unlocked HTC P3600 (1.15.405.5 is the verision that the device came with from the store) here in Canada.
This unit came from the store with the GPS icon available in SETTINGS/CONNECTION connections.
I have spent the last week reading, and reading, and rereading all you guys great posts on the new "cooked" ROM updates provided for FREE from some of the members/developers here, and the hints and tips for usability! Thank you all for this site and forum!
Now, into my question.
With the verision of the ROM that I have, is the GPS activated? I do see the GPS icon in the I have installed both google maps and live search which both software seem to have GPS functionality built in. I would like to get these programs to work with my built in GPS. However, it is a bit confussing when reading through all the posts on GPS to figure out what are my GPS settings that I should use from this particular ROM verision? I spent 2 hours trying every single combination of GPS program port (COM0-9 and GPD1-9) and GPS hardware port (COM0-9), with out success with either of the two softwares (live search or google maps). Both give an 'can't communicate with GPS' errors, with any of the combination settings.
FYI- I turned on the 'manage GPS automatically' when trying these comb settings. Each time I tried a different setting, I didn't do a soft reset.. just changed the GPS settings.. and then went back into one of the two program mentioined above and tried.. each time it fails with 'can't commicate with GPS'.
Question: do I have to do a softreset everytime I change the GPS settings? AGain, the device manual has NO documention on how to setup the GPS settings.. and the forums is somewhat confusing as I don't know if these methods are ROM specific or not.
Is there any utility that I can use to see if my GPS is activated/working under my current ROM?
Secondly, if my ROM is too old and I need an updated verision.. I have a small problem here too...
I downloaded LVSW ROM: 20070418_RUU_Trinity_LVSW_WWE_1.25.0.8_GPS_AKU3.5.2, which from what I have been reading here.. is a exellent ROM! But I have problems installing it...
My battery is 100% charged.. I am using my USB cable with my laptop (so powerfailure won't 'brick' my phone) running Win XP SP2 with ActiveSynch 4.5.
I make the activesch connection fine.. I lauch the .exe from the ROM.. i get past step 3 in the wizard... by clicking NEXT to install the ROM.. on the phone a verification prompts me to allow this program to run.. but as soon as I click accept/allow.. the wizard on the laptop immidately loses connection with my phone and says 'can't communicate'.. on my phone i get a red, green, blue and white bars with the text.. TRIN100, IPL_SSPL by Des, TRIN100, SPL-1.07.ds, and in the white area it says serial.
Thank god it didn't 'brick' my phone.. a softset brings my phone back to normal. I have tried this twice.. but same error problems...
I just want to get the GPS workings with my currently ROM with live search or google maps OR install this new ROM and get the GPS working with the same 2 programs.
If anyone can assist it will GREATLY be appreicated!!! I hope have i provided enough details for some of you PROs out there to assist me... lol.. hopefully I am not doing something stupidly wrong!
Thank you,
Chris

ps: In regards to my above post, I have tried the recommended baud rate of 4800, 9600, and even 57600..in the GPS settings again.. no luck...
Thank you,
Chris.

Hello did you upgrade the radio rom???
If not go here and do it,
you really nead that...
RADIO_ROM_1.38.00.11_Only_SSPL.rar

Hi Audsim.
Thank you kindly for the note and the link. I have already downloaded it.
Is this all I need to get the GPS working?

Yes you have to update also the radio part to enable the gps on your device...

Ausdim,
Thank you very much for you help. The radio update ROM installed perfectly!
I thought I would also mention that I found a 'work around' for the LVSW install problem (referenced in my post above) for those that might have the same problem.
Every time, I would try and install the LVSW ROM... on the last step in the wizard, I would get an error on my laptop 'connection error - can't communicate with the pda' and I would get a colored screen on my phone.
Before, I would just unplug the USB from the phone, do a soft reset to bring the phone back to normal and try again.
What worked, is that I left the USB plugged in after this error. I close the install app down and reopenned it (yes the phone was still on the colored screen).. then I would go through the install wizard again..and it worked!!
Very odd behavour as I followed the provided installation instructions to the T, but atleast I got it working and all is well!
Thank you again!
Regards,
Chris

*Hopeless* GPS after 6.1 Update?

I know this has been touched on before, but I want to know if this is a widespread thing or what - since the official 6.1 update, my GPS has been really poor, particularly on a cold start. In fact, every time I use it feels like a cold start these days, even though Quick GPS is downloading data regularly and always shows 6+ days.
Every GPS app is the same - Tom Tom, GPS Test, Google Maps, Live Search - I can be waiting up to 10, 15, 20 minutes for a fix. The only time it's quicker is if I've used the GPS recently, and even that is a bit of a black art.
I like running the official ROM and I'm happy with the update in every other way, but the GPS problem is driving me up the wall - am I the only one? Is anyone running the proper ROM and not finding their GPS impaired?
The weird thing is, I can watch GPS test picking up two, three, four satellites but it just won't lock...
This is with the WWE 3.28 ROM with the 3.28 SPL loaded (fixing the freezes under Hard SPL v1)... what's going on?

Boinng said:
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Usually, I've found the GPS lock time is Radio Based. Maybe try a different Radio.

Boinng said:
I know this has been touched on before, but I want to know if this is a widespread thing or what - since the official 6.1 update, my GPS has been really poor, particularly on a cold start. snip...
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The only thing that is going to get me off the DEATH V3.5 ROM is a newer Rom by this same person.
The GPS is the best that I have ever had...
The phone signal is the best that I have ever had...
The GPS lock is about 30 seconds after TomTom starts...
The battery life is phenomenal - (it takes about 24 hours for the phone meter to register correctly) but I had 79 percent battery life left after using the phone all day yesterday at 11 pm last night (unplugged it at 6 AM).
Obviously - your carrier, your radio and ROM and where you are in the world can affect your signal greatly - but at this point - for me - the DEATH V3.5 ROM and radio rock and will stay on this phone as I LOVE having no phone issues.
HTH
Bill

Ok, maybe I've not been clear here - I'm not wanting to swap ROM stories or compare radios, I'm asking if anyone else is experiencing severe GPS problems with the stock ROM, and stock radio.
Anyone?
This isn't "which ROM/radio is best for GPS", it's "did the HTC ROM break your GPS?"

I have never looked at the official HTC ROM for comparison but I had the same thing after updating to certain ROM (non-official) the only way around it I found (other than replacing the phone) is another radio. Its not a problem with the ROM at all my good man just replace the radio and you should see a quicker lock time
I use radio 1.64.08.21 ang get a lock after approx 10-15 secs

Well If you are going to be snippy about it. Never mind. Forget I tried to help.
Though You may be hard pressed to find someone who is using the Stock ROM, I believe most people are wooed by the magic of Leo26, ConfusedStu, dutty, and the other Chefs out there.

So you wouldn't say that quoting my post back to me as "...snip snippity snip snip..." was being "snippy" in the first place?
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, I'm just interested in whether this is a common problem or not. I know GPS performance varies between radios, but with this new ROM & radio the difference is pretty shocking, and given that HTC are expecting the whole world to have installed it, I was surprised nobody else seemed to have noticed. You're probably right, nobody here kept it for long enough to find out apart from me, but I like my phone to be "stock". I guess this is my reward.
The answer probably is to try another radio, but it's a funny old situation.

Boinng said:
Ok, maybe I've not been clear here - I'm not wanting to swap ROM stories or compare radios, I'm asking if anyone else is experiencing severe GPS problems with the stock ROM, and stock radio.
Anyone?
This isn't "which ROM/radio is best for GPS", it's "did the HTC ROM break your GPS?"
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I'm using the new (WM6.1) stock ROM from HTC on my Tytn-II and haven't had any issues with GPS lock. I would say less than 30 seconds assumming it has a clear view of a good percentage of the sky. Fix time is the same whether I use TomTom, GPS Tuner, or the HTC-GPS Tool.
Ofcourse if I try and start-up GPS while indoors or in an area where buildings block more than 50% of the sky then the fix time can be much longer.

Boinng said:
I know this has been touched on before, but I want to know if this is a widespread thing or what - since the official 6.1 update, my GPS has been really poor, particularly on a cold start. In fact, every time I use it feels like a cold start these days, even though Quick GPS is downloading data regularly and always shows 6+ days.
Every GPS app is the same - Tom Tom, GPS Test, Google Maps, Live Search - I can be waiting up to 10, 15, 20 minutes for a fix. The only time it's quicker is if I've used the GPS recently, and even that is a bit of a black art.
I like running the official ROM and I'm happy with the update in every other way, but the GPS problem is driving me up the wall - am I the only one? Is anyone running the proper ROM and not finding their GPS impaired?
The weird thing is, I can watch GPS test picking up two, three, four satellites but it just won't lock...
This is with the WWE 3.28 ROM with the 3.28 SPL loaded (fixing the freezes under Hard SPL v1)... what's going on?
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I had the same problem after loading the 3.28 Hard-SPL. Reverted back to stock SPL and GPS is lightening fast.
Are you using the stock 3.28 SPL or the new 3.28 Hard-SPL?
Did you run Kaiser Tweak? if you did I would Hard Reset and try GPS test.

Got exactly the same problemwith the htc stock 6.1 rom. Nothin to do with hard spl etc as neve used it - phone has always been htc branded.
it appears that although quick gps data is downloaded, it is not used hence taking a long time as it needs to download the almanac data frim the satelites instead of quickgps. Ive emailed htc, but i have NEVER had a reply to any questions ive a ked in the past.

kavi said:
I had the same problem after loading the 3.28 Hard-SPL. Reverted back to stock SPL and GPS is lightening fast.
Are you using the stock 3.28 SPL or the new 3.28 Hard-SPL?
Did you run Kaiser Tweak? if you did I would Hard Reset and try GPS test.
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I'm on the stock SPL - my phone is Vodafone branded so I was originally using Hard SPL (with which I flashed the original stock HTC Rom) and then flashed the HTC 3.28 SPL after I found I had freezing issues with the 6.1 update. Haven't touched the new Hard 3.28, but from what you say it's obviously not going to help. I did wonder if the mystery fix in the 3.29 SPL might have something to do with the GPS, but if it's working fine for you on 3.28 who knows.

ardsar said:
Got exactly the same problemwith the htc stock 6.1 rom. Nothin to do with hard spl etc as neve used it - phone has always been htc branded.
it appears that although quick gps data is downloaded, it is not used hence taking a long time as it needs to download the almanac data frim the satelites instead of quickgps. Ive emailed htc, but i have NEVER had a reply to any questions ive a ked in the past.
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That's how it looks to me too - looking at the signal levels in GPS Test etc, it's not obviously a problem with the radio performance itself, which makes me doubt that changing the radio will actually help (while it will no doubt screw something else up).

I was just browsing through an interesting thread here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=292178 - on how Quick GPS works (or didn't work for a while) on the Artemis. There's some interesting stuff there about how all this is supposed to work.
I'm really suspecting that Quick GPS is broken in some way in the latest ROM. If it were working, then the phone should always have the almanac data and this should be visible in the settings screens in Tom Tom and other gps progs as satellites it's expecting to be there, but for me - unless I've had a very recent lock - it's always blank. In other words, the data isn't there, regardless of what Quick GPS is saying.
And a good question would be - where should the data be? Quick GPS itself is stored in the \windows folder, but there's no sign of the "packedephemeris.ee" file mentioned in the Artemis thread. Does anyone know where we should be able to find it on the Kaiser?
Another question is what server(s) should Quick GPS be downloading from - in my non-functioning Quick GPS, the settings in the registry are as follows:
HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\0\0\IP > xtra1.gpsonextra.net
HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\0\1\IP > xtra2.gpsonextra.net
HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\1\0\IP > xtra3.gpsonextra.net
HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\1\1\IP > xtra1.gpsonextra.net
HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\2\0\IP > xtra2.gpsonextra.net
HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\2\1\IP > xtra3.gpsonextra.net
The three servers (xtra1, xtra2, etc) are also listed under HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\SNTP as Server 1, Server 2, Server 3 - does anyone see anything different on there working model?

Im having the same problem,
Running Dutty's 6.1 Dual rom. Once the ROM had installed I noticed that QuickGPS didn't work straight off the bat. I suffered long GPS lock wait times. I found a QuickGPS cab file which fixed QuickGPS but my lock times don't seem to have improved. Via GPSTest I get 3-4 within sight straight away, but they sit on red for ages perhaps a few more satellites with appear but again they'll all sit on red. until about 15 mins passes, then finally a fix.
Im sure my GPS responded quicker than that in previous ROM's. at the moment its not really effecting me and im really not going to go through another ROM change again to test.
Im already on radio 1.64.08.21 which is supposed to be the best out there. tut.
no idea about hard spl and all that business, not really sure what y'going on about.
Would also like to find a fix for this, as i've tried a few different methods of fixing with no luck.

So it's not the radio, which ties in with my hunch that this is more to do with Quick GPS. But my Quick GPS registry settings match those I've found elsewhere, and I've found the data - it's an "xtra.bin" file in the Windows folder, which also matches reports from working installs. And I'm having no problem with the whole downloading process, that's happening in the background (through Activesync) just as it always was.
So is there something in the actual Rom (and presumably the base rom used by Dutty) which isn't picking up that data when utlising GPS?

Well I think I read a few posts on Dutty's Dual ROM thread about QuickGPS not working straight off, but its a long thread to plow through to find out. S its entirely possible there's a good reason.
Hmmm

well I proved to myself im not inherently lazy I did a bit of searching around and found this little gem of a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375172
it suggested that QuickGPS has a region setting in the registry
low and behold I checked my
HKLM\Software\HTC\QuickGPS\region
and it was set to US,
I changed this to say UK, I've not tested this but I think this might make a difference. I'll let you know whenI get the chance to play around on the way home from work. I usually try and get a fix on the 15 minute walk to my bus and dont get any fix at all, If all goes fine I'll be watching myself in Igo8 on the way home. Sad.

Hmm, fingers crossed for you, I just checked and mine it's showing "GB" though. So maybe your's should be GB (although that's not working too well for me) or maybe mine's wrong, and should be UK?

well I just popped outside for a quick test and Corblimey guvenor if Im not getting a fix in about 20 seconds.
Which is excellent to say the least since i was sat under a canopy of trees at the time and its grim as normal up't'north.
Id switch yours to UK, I didnt really think to try GB, but If its not working for you right now, I'd suggest trying UK.

I changed it to UK, soft reset, tried Tom Tom, no change. I then checked the registry and it had switched back to GB, so I changed it again, closed and reopened Quick GPS and redownloaded, back to Tom Tom again and.. no change. I don't think it's going to do it for me, maybe we have two different problems here..

gps problem after rom upgrade - assistance needed :(

hi there,
I have my diamond for almost a week now. On the first day everything worked fine. The gps got a fix, took it a while but it worked. On the second day of playing with it i decided i wanted to try a cooked rom.
I installed hardSPL (oliNex 1.40) and then tried dyttys 1.8 rom. All worked fine except for the GPS. It wasn't even finding it (the nav soft nor the gps test tool).
So i upraded the radio to 08 (in duttys rom it's 07). Same thing.
Next thing was installing panosha's shine on 1.5 rom (including radio 08).
Then i actually managed to see the gps, but it couldn't get a fix. So i tried radio 05. The gps was found but no fix... after hard reset once i got a fix, which took really long time, like 5-10 minutes. After next reboot nothing... Even the gps was not seen by the apps.
Now I'm on panosha's shine on 1.6 (still radio 05). Now the apps can see the gps, but it won't fix.
What to do? Try another hardspl? try another rom? try another radio? maybe try some tweaks?
Or maybe the gps is broken? But it worked!
Help me out please guys.
regards,
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Dragilla

It think it has nothing to do with the hardSPL but u could try olinex 1.93
For roms, try swiftBLs or maybe christonges ct.

dragilla said:
hi there,
I have my diamond for almost a week now. On the first day everything worked fine. The gps got a fix, took it a while but it worked. On the second day of playing with it i decided i wanted to try a cooked rom.
I installed hardSPL (oliNex 1.40) and then tried dyttys 1.8 rom. All worked fine except for the GPS. It wasn't even finding it (the nav soft nor the gps test tool).
So i upraded the radio to 08 (in duttys rom it's 07). Same thing.
Next thing was installing panosha's shine on 1.5 rom (including radio 08).
Then i actually managed to see the gps, but it couldn't get a fix. So i tried radio 05. The gps was found but no fix... after hard reset once i got a fix, which took really long time, like 5-10 minutes. After next reboot nothing... Even the gps was not seen by the apps.
Now I'm on panosha's shine on 1.6 (still radio 05). Now the apps can see the gps, but it won't fix.
What to do? Try another hardspl? try another rom? try another radio? maybe try some tweaks?
Or maybe the gps is broken? But it worked!
Help me out please guys.
regards,
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Dragilla
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Well well well, there seems to be some problem...
I have exactly the same: no GPS fix but still seeing the sats, then no sats anymore.
I installed Dutty's 1.8 too yesterday and after that CT's.
Now back to a stock ROM including Stock SPL, but no GPS anymore...
I'm afraid I have to send my device for repair.
What do we have in common? We both flashed Dutty's 1.8, we both changed radio's (I went from .08 to .05).
Are there more victims out there???

look here... i will try this now
Don't know how about you... but it worked for me. ..at least for now. I got a fix.
Try it - soft reset your gps!
regards,
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dragilla

After every ROM flash, you need to cold boot your GPS.
This is why the first time you have to wait 5-10 minutes to get a fix.
You can always use HTC GPS Tool or any similar app to cold boot.

ok, it helped only for a while. I then installed skype, google maps, maybe something else, synced with outlook and now gps cannot be found. Even by htc_gps_tool. It now says "failed to send NMEA command".
GPS Test scans ports and stops at com4 (this is the gps port)... and nothing happens. Hard reset of the device does not help.
Any ideas? Just 1h ago gps seemed to work
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Dragilla

Do you have AGPS enabled? If so, disable it.
I WOULD recommend to start everything from the beginning:
1: flash a radio (.08)
2: flash a vanilla ROM (DON'T install anything else apart from HTC GPS tool)
3: Try getting a fix with this setup. We'll then know if it's a hardware problem or just your fiddling.

So don't touch the hardspl? If it works it works and i shouldn't change it?
What do you mean by "a vanilla rom". Any rom with vanilla=tflo3d? If so, what if this rom has radio in it (dytty's 1.8 has radio 07).
ps: how to change agps setting? I used pocket toolman now... had to install it... and guess what: agps was off. I turned in on rebooted and turned it off again. Didn't help.
Thanx for the interest in my problem Awaiting further instructions.
regards,
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Dragilla

I have tested a bit this night. Flashed duttys 1.8, tried and it works, installed loads of apps and tried again and there it is, no gps fix.
I did a hard reset and flashed the .05 radio and then swiftBLs 6.0 lite rom. Nothing, no gps fix. Did another hard reset and flashed an official rom, and it works normal. Another hard reset and back to swiftBLs rom and got no problems.
atm i´m so lol

skrap3 said:
I have tested a bit this night. Flashed duttys 1.8, tried and it works, installed loads of apps and tried again and there it is, no gps fix.
I did a hard reset and flashed the .05 radio and then swiftBLs 6.0 lite rom. Nothing, no gps fix. Did another hard reset and flashed an official rom, and it works normal. Another hard reset and back to swiftBLs rom and got no problems.
atm i´m so lol
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Just did the same you did (flash to an official ROM, including stock SPL, so everything back to the original state. Still no more GPS fix. GPSTest gives a few low signals but not enought for fix. Tried it outside for half an hour.
My device goed back for repair.

I'm sure soft reset of gps would help.
I just did new radio flash + new rom flash + soft reset of gps and it worked.
The I was installing my packages + configuring my device doing reboot after each small change to see if gps still works. It stopped working after installing win6voip.cab
Will try again to verify that

I had the same prob. And even when i had a fix it loses the fix and then it fixed agian so on and so on. Had it with igo8 and tom tom 7 and a smal program to see gps reception.
I switched back to radio .05 and used rom sc (skippycentraal) v2.8 (dutch language, is perfect for me cause i'm from holland )
I't works perfect, in about 20 to 30 sec outside getting a fix.
sometimes i'll even get a fix indoors

I think its a problem with the roms with the new radios, but the reason for the gps problems itself is affected by some applications.

Ummm a bit worrying..... I must admit after frying my Hermes with a new radio and then my Polaris after flashing a compatable radio from another device I´m a little vary now. I´ve stuck with .05 for a while now and I´ve been flashing between 5-10 times a day for the last few weeks and TomTom has been fixing everytime no issues whatsoever.

dragilla said:
I'm sure soft reset of gps would help.
I just did new radio flash + new rom flash + soft reset of gps and it worked.
The I was installing my packages + configuring my device doing reboot after each small change to see if gps still works. It stopped working after installing win6voip.cab
Will try again to verify that
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how do you softreset GPS???

Use htc gps tool. Use function->chip->Q7200, set baud rate and port and click "open port". Next use function->set mode->cold start and get outside for 10 minutes with the device configured not to shut down/go to sleep (power settings). It should get a fix.
Back to my case: I flashed again and did the gps cold start. Then installed all the stuff I wanted + configured everything checking if gps is still getting a fix after each install/reboot. It still does. Ofcourse this time I did not install win6voip.cab. So I guess this package was the one "spoiling" my gps.
Will try to tweak my voip in win manually tomorrow. Hope it works because I have a SIP account I would like to use on my diamond.
regards,
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Dragilla

dragilla said:
Use htc gps tool. Use function->chip->Q7200, set baud rate and port and click "open port". Next use function->set mode->cold start and get outside for 10 minutes with the device configured not to shut down/go to sleep (power settings). It should get a fix.
Back to my case: I flashed again and did the gps cold start. Then installed all the stuff I wanted + configured everything checking if gps is still getting a fix after each install/reboot. It still does. Ofcourse this time I did not install win6voip.cab. So I guess this package was the one "spoiling" my gps.
Will try to tweak my voip in win manually tomorrow. Hope it works because I have a SIP account I would like to use on my diamond.
regards,
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Dragilla
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Also did that, no fix... GPS definitely is broken, back to repair.

GPS no signal
God damn it...
everyone keeps flashing ROMs etc and I thought it was safe, I have exactly the same problem as pietrucci
and now I read that flashing everything back to stock doesn't fix the GPS ...
that REALLY PISSES ME OFF
there seems to be no information on how to properly "restart" the GPS so to make it work.
also from a technical point of view, how can you possibly "break" the GPS by installing hardSPL and another ROM, without even touching the Radio?
this problem better get a fix somehow and lets hope we (me, pietrucci and evilskanker) are able to fix it, or I will stop flashing untested **** altogether. it's fun as long as it works, but if someone reports a problem that is suddenly an exception, then things start to get quite a bit less safe as you see!
just my 2 cents.

Hi.
I don't know how Qualcomm GPS works, but users of Eten X650 are having same problem. (My previos phone was X650, SirfStarIII) After some reflashing GPS is broken. We make it working by dispacing battery from phone for 36 hr. So all GPS settings were reset. Someone ever short-circuit contacts of battery on the phone for this time. Try this if everything didn't help before going to service.

sepa said:
Hi.
I don't know how Qualcomm GPS works, but users of Eten X650 are having same problem. (My previos phone was X650, SirfStarIII) After some reflashing GPS is broken. We make it working by dispacing battery from phone for 36 hr. So all GPS settings were reset. Someone ever short-circuit contacts of battery on the phone for this time. Try this if everything didn't help before going to service.
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Ok, I'm wiling to try everything. I'll leave the battery out for some days.
What do you mean by short-circuit the battery contacts, just hold a piece of iron on the phone contacts? Or do something with the battery itself? Doesn't that damage the device or battery?
By the way: I'm can't tell for sure my broken GPS was caused by flashing. But it was right after my last flash (Dutty v1.8) that is was dead. Everything I did after that (flashing to other ROMS, to stock ROMS, hardresets, GPS resets) was to try to get life in my GPS. But as you know now, without any effect.
All in all I believe it has to do with flashing but not 100% sure...

GPS running but without any effect...

Since I bought my Diamond, last week, I haven't been able to get a single fix.
Even worse, although my GPS is detected as running by every GPS soft, there is only one sattelit bar active at a time.
(about 10 satelits are being sensed, but only one is actually sending datas to my device, every time...)
I've never expericenced such problems with my preivous triny. There were always at least 3 or more bars moving up and down at a time, and at the end I could get some fix.
- either it is a hardware problem and I got a crap GPS chipset...
- or it is a setting problem with my ROM.
By the way, in the External GPS settings screen, I have strange infos:
Port GPS: com4 which is normal, GPS Material Port: None!!
baud rate: 4800 (which I think is very low, but I heard everybody has got the same)
What's wrong with my device?

Seems to be lots of posts on this issue...a nice simple one is to flash a new radio.....if that doesn't work do a Hard Reset (to be sure!) and restore to minimum and see if it runs.....then move on from there....

I've been having a similar problem with my Raphael (it takes a million, billion years to get a lock and even then it's only 3 satellites).
I deleted the 2 GPSlog files in the Windows folder, did a soft reset, ran QuickGPS and then tried Google Maps again. I got a lock in about 10 seconds with 8 satellites.
Now, I've only been able to test it once and will have a go again tomorrow but it's easier than a radio flash or hard reset!
Harry

Thanks for the replies!
- I've been doing many hard resets these days, due to some problems with Asian Fonts. So, this is not the problem.
I may go for the radio flashing as u suggest.
By the way, I've noticed you're using the x.x.8 radio, are you satisfied with it? I read many are going back to x.x.5 cause they it has poor performances.
-The GPS log files sounds good. I've never tried this but I may give it a try.
I tried to reset the GPS logs from within the soft I was using, but it did not improve anything, looks like the GPS only receives the list of satelits, but no localisation datas at all...

riri22 said:
Thanks for the replies!
- I've been doing many hard resets these days, due to some problems with Asian Fonts. So, this is not the problem.
I may go for the radio flashing as u suggest.
By the way, I've noticed you're using the x.x.8 radio, are you satisfied with it? I read many are going back to x.x.5 cause they it has poor performances.
-The GPS log files sounds good. I've never tried this but I may give it a try.
I tried to reset the GPS logs from within the soft I was using, but it did not improve anything, looks like the GPS only receives the list of satelits, but no localisation datas at all...
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....I'm about to revert back to the 07 radio (from 08) as it did not give me the same sat pickup as 07....you can also try the HTC GPS Tool and run a COLD start...I understand this wipes the data and restarts as advised previously...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416334
...lot of other goodies here

The Doctor said:
I've been having a similar problem with my Raphael (it takes a million, billion years to get a lock and even then it's only 3 satellites).
I deleted the 2 GPSlog files in the Windows folder, did a soft reset, ran QuickGPS and then tried Google Maps again. I got a lock in about 10 seconds with 8 satellites.
Now, I've only been able to test it once and will have a go again tomorrow but it's easier than a radio flash or hard reset!
Harry
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I have a similar problem from time to time.A lot of data received from 10-12 satellites but a fix only after a long long time. In comparison with the Garmin Gps I have the sensitivity of the Diamond GPS receiver is good, but the algoritm is not. Diamond radio is .05
I have the same problem if i delete the log file and update with quick GPS.
It seems that the algorithm in the radio sometimes is not able to converge easily to a fix.

My tomtom was working just Excellent on my diamond, than i did a hard reset and no gps, 1 bar for over 1 hour, so reflashed the same rom again 1.93.405 still same problem, so flashed 1.93.401 and bingo it works again. after a nother hard reset 1.93 401 rom gps wont work angin, this time the 1.93 405 rom fixed it. ( all WWE roms)
no idea why this happend.. when the diamond gps works its excellent (better than most tomtom units) but thants only when it works.
as the gps feature is very importent to me, i now have a back up bluetooth gps incase inbuilt gps fails.
and with out quick gps i find its aloms impossible to get a lock.
I only hope HTC fic this issue if not this will have been my first and last HTC product.
Any tips welcomed

Hi mates,
First of all thanks for the link and the goodies, in fact I had already found some datas since many Diamond users seem to have similiar problems with their device.
I agree this is obviously a mistake of HTC to have put a defectuous part in their phone.
1) My problem even went worse yesterday after I flashed the last HK WWE ROM: my GPS wasn't even sensed by the softs!
No NMEA datas blabla...
2)
many hard reset and reflash couldn't fix the problem. I was about to give up when i found info about that HTC GPS TOOL I had never heard about.
After using it for quite a while, at least my GPS was finally sensed and 'some' datas received, though it wasn't enough to get a proper satelit bar, not to mention a fix...
3)
So now I'm back to the same point: no fix or proper reception available, although I'm already quite happy that my GPS is detected again!
3)
I got back to the same stock radio, x.x.5 but no matter which one I use, I can't see when I'm going to have a a fix with that whimsical GPS!

SOLVED!!!
I finally found a solution to wake up my sleeping (beauty) GPS.
The most helpful infos were in that post below, but I did pick other datas here and there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2563369&postcount=6
The funniest thing is that this problem looks like a hardware one, but in fact it's all software related. A problem of configuration, due to the A-GPS function probably.
From what I understand, if you use A-GPS (I mean if you really have access to this special service through your phone operator) everything is fine.
If you don't, then you may get into big troubles like I and many others did...
1) make sure A-GPS function is desactivated (nothing to do with the Quick GPS function)
2)
... just follow the instructions provided by the Oijkn on the link above.
3)
delete as well the file(s) GPSlogs.txt in the windows directory
4)
soft reset
5)
enjoy a very efficient GPS

Hello ! (I am french)
I have a HTC Diamond P3700 and Tomtom Navigator 7.910 + western Europe 1GB map.
This map map is not recognized ? How repair ? Thanks

GPS icon/menu not visible, fix with ROM?

Hi all,
First off i'm a newb.
Second... I just got my phone though my GPS doesnt work (got tomtom). I then realized there is no GPS icon/menu to tamper with to change settings (all this talk about comm 4 and stuff like that).
Im going to "Hard SPL" the device, then "Flash" it with the Dutty 6.1 ROM.
I've checked all over this site, but i've not found a simple solution to my problem.
Is this a fix? (sorry for having no idea what im doing)
Thanks for reading.

navigate to start>programs and you'll find an icon called QuickGPS. Click on this icon and download GPS data, this is needed to get a faster fix with TOMTOM.
Next, navigate to start>settings>system>external GPS choose com 4, in the hardware tab choose GPS hardware port 7, and baud rate 9600, in the access tab, tick the manage gps box automatically.
Start tomtom and configure it accordingly...

still no luck
Thank you for your advice though still doesnt work. I have GPS test, ad when i run it it just stays on "GPS starting up" and on teh botting some numbers appear and dissapear.... and a tiny red line above it...
Do radios have anything to do with the GPS? If so could you recommend one?
thanks again.

yes radios can worsen or make the gps fix faster. and it all depends on where you like and what rom u install. I am currently using radio niki KAIS_Radinly_1.65.24.36_ CustomRUU with ROM 3.29.DK.10 and i get a gps fix under a min. I am in Rhode Island usa. East Coast.
Go here to read some more on it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182

stairwaykev said:
Hi all,
First off i'm a newb.
Second... I just got my phone though my GPS doesnt work (got tomtom). I then realized there is no GPS icon/menu to tamper with to change settings (all this talk about comm 4 and stuff like that).
Im going to "Hard SPL" the device, then "Flash" it with the Dutty 6.1 ROM.
I've checked all over this site, but i've not found a simple solution to my problem.
Is this a fix? (sorry for having no idea what im doing)
Thanks for reading.
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First thing, DO NOT mess with External GPS settings. It is well known to hose the GPS.
Download QuickGPS (google for it) and let it run for a few minutes outside. Maybe as long as 5 minutes, but it should never take that long (although it's widely reported to take a long time for the GPS in the Tilt to warm up).
If QuickGPS still does not get a lock on satelites, then TomTom won't. But it sounds like you're probably not waiting long enough, particularly the whole "there's no GPS icon" thing in TomTom.... I suppose it's possible you've gotten a version of TomTom which doesn't work with the Tilt.
There's no need to install other ROMs or Radios to use your GPS.