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Just got my new Tmobile Vario III - re badged Kaiser. But how do I enable Hsdpa (I think that's what its called). Am in London where I have heard it works but no sign and nothing in manual either - do get GPRS and 3G. Any tips?
HSDPA works straight out of the box (AFAIK). When you connect to the next it says "Connecting to GPRS, 3G..." and if your in an area with HSDPA a little "H" will apear at the top. If not a "3G" will appear in the same place.
I'm on T-Mob in UK and have had HSDPA with a connection of just under 1Mbps, though recently I haven't had it for some reason.
jbevan said:
Just got my new Tmobile Vario III - re badged Kaiser. But how do I enable Hsdpa (I think that's what its called). Am in London where I have heard it works but no sign and nothing in manual either - do get GPRS and 3G. Any tips?
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Download KaiserTweak - see the thread at the top of this forum - there's a function on that utility to ensure HSDPA is turned on.
If the little H isn't appearing after that when you are downloading in 3G areas then you might need to check with T-mobile to ensure that you have access to HSDPA.
Not sure if I'm allowed to do this but there's a thread on another forum about this:
http://www.modaco.com/content/HTC-Kaiser-Kaiser-MoDaCo-com/260833/HSDPA-frustration-on-Vario-III/
Reportedly, HSDPA is now only offered on Web&Walk Plus - that does correspond with my recent experience since I didn't have it enabled until I upgraded to W&W Plus after which it automatically appeared without me asking...
If this is the case, I'm sure there are going to be complaints, but it really is consistent with the long-standing Web&Walk terms and conditions. The basic service was only ever intended to support light-weight web browsing and you were always supposed to pay the Plus premium before using your line to provide a mobile link for your laptop. Like many others, I broke the rules occasionally but now that I am making more serious use of my Vario III as the mobile data link for my laptop, I have gone legal and coughed up the extra few quid per month - it's still the best deal in town!
Martin
Same here I just upgraded from Web n Walk to the Web n Walk Plus package costs me an extra fiver a month but for how I use the phone it's well worth it.
im on standard w&w 7.50 per month phone, 150, and ask them to enable hsdpa, that all i did!
if they say no, phone and try again until you get someone, either clueless, or dont careless?
Apparently, since 19th November anyone one Web n Walk standard or the pay as you use service will not get HSDPA.
You need to be on Web n walk plus or Max.
Even if you call back a few times, they will put you through their tech support who have now all been instructed to deny you HSDPA.
Bad News, I'm going to complain about it.
Im on normal Web n walk - all i had to do was call T-mobile and request that they activate HSDPA on my account.
Boom.
Job done!
Is it really enabled?
OK.
I am currently on the phone to them for a second time. Both times have been told quite adamantly that HSDPA is enabled on my price plan which is the standard Web N' Walk.
I went into a bit of a rant telling them that there was no way that it was enabled and they have gone off to check with techies again. I'm guessing they are being told to say that as a standard fob off.
Will see where this attempt ends up.
Finally went through 3-4 customer service staff, a couple of first line techies all of whom told me HSDPA was enabled.
After finally insisting that they were still talking out their arses I got through to a proper techie who told me what everybody else has been saying about needing the upgrade to Web N' Walk Plus.
I then got in that lovely situation where I bought the upgrade from a shop (on their recommendation due to stock levels) and now have to go back to the shop and try and sort something out with the shop manager who will have to phone them to see what they can sort out. I am hoping that they are going to give me the upgrade for free, but we will wait and see. Will be extremely pissed-off if they make me go back to the store and don't give me anything.
The long and the short of it is that I doubt anybody is going to get it enabled anymore without upgrading. If I had bought it online or through the phone I think they would have given me the upgrade for free straight away. There was no way they were enabling it on the standard Web N' Walk for me.
I keep my fingers crossed for everybody who does have it and hope that they don't bring them all into line. I think if enough people complain as I have just done I think they'll probably enable it just to stop the barrage of phone calls.
Do your homework!
T-Mobile does NOT have a high speed data service. Your phone may show an H, but GPRS is all their network has. That's why they don't do business accounts.
Note the nationalities of the other posters -- T-Mobile in Europe does indeed have 3G. It's just T-Mobile USA that's behind for the moment; they're building up their US 3G network on 1700 MHz.
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T-Mobile does NOT have a high speed data service. Your phone may show an H, but GPRS is all their network has. That's why they don't do business accounts.
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Maybe that's true in your neck of the woods, but in UK, they definitely have
HSDPA (with pretty good coverage) and also business accounts
As I said before, the lack of HSDPA on basic Web&Walk is only a significant issue if you are breaking the terms and conditions... Basic rate W&W was only ever intended to support informational web browsing and email on your phone or PDA - you were always supposed to pay the Plus premium for heavier usage. I'm sure many of us broke the rules sometime, but you can't be too surprised if they take steps to plug the loopholes. £12/month for unlimited internet usage through your phone is still pretty good compared with the competition - they certainly have similar headline prices, but check the terms and conditions (particularly their definition of "fair use")
Marin
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Im on normal Web n walk - all i had to do was call T-mobile and request that they activate HSDPA on my account.
Boom.
Job done!
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Lucky you, I've now tried to call 11 times and got the same message each.
"No way Jose, unless you upgrade to W+W Plus."
If your account was created before the 17th October then it seems that they can simply switch it on on your account. After that date the option isn't there for them to enable. Which is what happened to me
Just to highlight a good point made elsewhere, unless you're downloading large files all the time it's perfectly possible to live without HSDPA. I'm on PAYG and only really browse/email; the most I'll pay is £30/month. To pay £42.50 for the extra privilege of HSDPA (if you have coverage) on WnW+ simply isn't worth it!
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Just to highlight a good point made elsewhere, unless you're downloading large files all the time it's perfectly possible to live without HSDPA. I'm on PAYG and only really browse/email; the most I'll pay is £30/month. To pay £42.50 for the extra privilege of HSDPA (if you have coverage) on WnW+ simply isn't worth it!
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I totally agree with the sentiment here, if you only use your phone for email & browsing, the WNW is probably good enough. I pay for WNWplus because I connect my laptop to the phone & benefit from HSDPA where available.
However the price difference between equivalent WNW & WNWplus packages is only £5 per month, so I'm happy to pay it. I can't justfy to myself the extra for WNWmax - I don't need IM & skype etc.
Could someone just clarify - If I see an "H" in the data connection, does that mean HSDPA is enabled? (on UK T-Mob). Thanks
Yes it does
So far I wasn't really enticed to use all the benefits of the Kaiser because of high rates the carrier charges for Data usage in Canada.
Anyhow lately I have seem to need some kind of software that I can access my email all the time. Don't know much about it ... But my question is the following: the carrier offers unlimited email and 4 MB of data. Is there any software that I can block the data but still get the BBconnect/WM push email? Because I have been reading on different forums charges in excess of $1000 for data usage. One customer over $3000. For everybody, Cdn dollars and US are on par.
Just recieved my first bill from Orange after having my Diamond for a month. It would seem unlimited internet does not include Google Maps, YouTube and any push email.
My unlimited internet access only covers "mobile internet" which is browsing web pages only, and not what I have described above or any file downloads.
So please check your bills as you could be generating a huge bill given they charge £2.55 per megabyte.
I am now one very unhappy customer and feeling like I have been miss-sold.
happened to me. I was charged but then i called them up and they now have corrected my tariff. I initially ordered my tariff of £35/pm 600mins, unlimited texts, unlimited internet usage anytime..... but i was given a 2month trial of unlimited OFF PEAK usage
They corrected it and offered me a refund. Now i get free unlimiited anytime data usage! 3g all day long for free. Only thing is no downloads or will be charged. You should check with Orange CS
I have got the unlimited internet and have had it for 7 weeks. I have not been charged for my imap email, you tube player or any web browing at all. had 150 mb download free of charge. I think its just a clarification of tarrif. My Misses was supposed to have unlimited but looking at her bill she is only on the sample 2 month tariff. You can check on line for your usage. Not been charged yet. I cant see how they could tell the difference between an http web page and an http download. unless they have very clever monitoring devices.
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Just recieved my first bill from Orange after having my Diamond for a month. It would seem unlimited internet does not include Google Maps, YouTube and any push email.
My unlimited internet access only covers "mobile internet" which is browsing web pages only, and not what I have described above or any file downloads.
So please check your bills as you could be generating a huge bill given they charge £2.55 per megabyte.
I am now one very unhappy customer and feeling like I have been miss-sold.
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Very good advice. Orange are shifty buggers when it comes to mobile internet. It used to be that if you accessed any site outside their Orange World portal you'd be charged, but that was back in the days when they offered a massive 30Mb limit per month!
When I phoned to arrange delivery of my Diamond, I asked about the mobile internet package that I'd signed up for, and was told pretty much what you've sadly found out about the hard way.
I know this doesn't help, but here is an extract from the small print in their free brochure that sadly gives them the excuse to charge you:
"Mobile internet browsing is subject to the monthly limit set out in your service plan terms & conditions. Mobile internet browsing is not to be used for other activities, such as using your handset as a modem, non-Orange internet based streaming services, voice or video over the internet, instant messaging*, peer to peer file sharing, non-Orange internet based video.
*the very same brocure states that the HTC Diamond is "mobile instant messanger compatible"... Yes, the handset is compatible with a feature that Orange, according to their terms and conditions, won't let you use anyway! Go figure...
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Very good advice. Orange are shifty buggers when it comes to mobile internet. It used to be that if you accessed any site outside their Orange World portal you'd be charged, but that was back in the days when they offered a massive 30Mb limit per month!
When I phoned to arrange delivery of my Diamond, I asked about the mobile internet package that I'd signed up for, and was told pretty much what you've sadly found out about the hard way.
I know this doesn't help, but here is an extract from the small print in their free brochure that sadly gives them the excuse to charge you:
"Mobile internet browsing is subject to the monthly limit set out in your service plan terms & conditions. Mobile internet browsing is not to be used for other activities, such as using your handset as a modem, non-Orange internet based streaming services, voice or video over the internet, instant messaging*, peer to peer file sharing, non-Orange internet based video.
*the very same brocure states that the HTC Diamond is "mobile instant messanger compatible"... Yes, the handset is compatible with a feature that Orange, according to their terms and conditions, won't let you use anyway! Go figure...
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Thanks for the reply. The only thing to say in my case was that upgrades offered me "unlimited data", I know this would have been recorded so lets hope the can resolve this for me.
my bill states "Unlimited Mobile Internet". Make of that what you will
I had a similar experience last time i was with Orange. I had a sim only contract for about 6 months and they only billed me right once. They always sorted it but I had to pay the wrong amount each month and get it credited back next month. It left me annoyed and I was really reluctant to go back to Orange again.
They offered me a great deal on the diamond and I went for it. I told the girl in the shop (who was the manager) about my previous experience and she told me to go to her if it ever goes wrong. I told her that if they get it wrong one month, I'll cancel the direct debit and only pay the correct amount. I even got her to write that I've got 500mb of unrestricted access on my contract (she even told me that using the phone as a modem and voip are ok).
So far it's been good. I check the youraccount section of the site every couple of days to make sure that I haven't incurred any charges I shouldn't have.
If you argue it out with them, they should back down. If you took the contract out in July then you have unrestricted internet - using google maps, push email etc.. are part of the allowance. No other mobile operator charges for these separately and Orange shouldn't.
If they wont back down, I personally would cancel the direct debit and refuse to pay until it's sorted. Your contract shouldn't be any different to anyone else who took it out at the same time so you shouldn't pay extra for actually using the phone for what it's made for.
I joined orange in july during a promotion of 'unlimited data' which, and i confirmed with four different orange people, includes all data transfers. Although it's 'unlimited' they say there's a fair use policy of 2 gig. I've been absolutely caining it and when i phoned them up to check how much i've been using, they only said about 500 meg. I've had a few bills with no charges on them.....yet...
Oh, and my online account doesn't actually show anything about unlimited data anywhere on it, again, after checking with orange they said it was because it was a special deal.
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Oh, and my online account doesn't actually show anything about unlimited data anywhere on it, again, after checking with orange they said it was because it was a special deal.
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Yeah, mine doesn't show it as a bundle either. I was told the same on the phone.
I'm not using it a lot, maybe 20 meg a month, but 90% of that is email and google maps - I don't really do much browsing on my phone.
I recently signed up for a deal with unlimited data too. I was told that it was unlimited in every sense of the word - every day, all day, for all forms of data. However, I was told that there was a 500mb fair use policy cap on it.
Due to all the above and the variables involved, i'm going to call up tomorrow to make sure my plan is as it should be. If they don't allow unlimited data, i'm off to 02 and the iphone i'm afraid - I still have 7 days to cancel the upgrade/new contract.
Why do things have to be so messy!
Because it was a 'Special', and because it sounded vague, I specifically quizzed two different operators about this 'Unlimited Internet' offer. I did this so I had no misunderstandings as to exactly what I was entitled to, and whether it became chargeable under any circumstances.
Their answers were quite clear, and very accurately align with what loonpants says above... essentially it was a very special time limited offer (now finished I believe), by which all internet access was free at any time. A fair use policy was mentioned, but it was enforced by restrictive measures rather than incurring costs beyond that limit... (I don't think either operator mentioned a figure, but I'm sure it will be quite generous, perhaps even the 2gigs mentioned above.
It didn't mention this feature anywhere on my last bill, (which again prompted me to phone to clarify), and they said it wouldn't, and that it would just say data charges = £0.00. I've also checked my account online a few times since, and my data use has stayed at £0.00, while I've used about 30 megs in the 17 days since my last bill.
If you're not certain what deal you have, my advice is give them a bell on 150 to confirm... they change the type and availability of their various deals more than most people change their underpants, so better to be clear before you wade in trying to defend something you might never have had, or worse still, be missing out on something you didn't realise you had.
Edit: Just read your post simcarlock, and your 500mb rings a bell... more than enough for me. And it's so messy because they chop and change their offers so much, they can barely keep track.
Well, after what I posted on page 1, I've checked my account on-line and it says data charges = £0.00.
@The Stoat - phone 'em on 150. It may be that they've mistakenly put you on the wrong package.
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@The Stoat - phone 'em on 150. It may be that they've mistakenly put you on the wrong package.
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Tried that . Standard CS agent states data stuff is too complicated and he does not understand it so passed me to upgrades.
I inform upgrades they offered me unlimited data, they state unlimited data does not exist but unlimited mobile Internet does. They also state mobile internet is only looking at webpages and includes no streaming, file downloads, etc Try to explain both are just data so what does it matter....and the data charges are classed as calling orange Internet so must be part of the plan. Circular argument, so I will be called back tomorrow following the upgrade agent talking to a manager.
One good point is they have wiped this months charges, but there suggested resolution was to call the technical team to turn off all the data using stuff such as RSS feeds, push mail etc. They did not seem to grasp this is why I got a Diamond!
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Circular argument, so I will be called back tomorrow following the upgrade agent talking to a manager.
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If you're on the same package as us above (and it sounds like you should be), then stand your ground until you speak with someone who knows what they're talking about... by our experience there's got to be at least three of them lurking around there somewhere
Good luck!
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"Mobile internet browsing is subject to the monthly limit set out in your service plan terms & conditions. Mobile internet browsing is not to be used for other activities, such as [...] non-Orange internet based video."
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So you can't use either the integrated Windows Live bits or the integrated Youtube player, officially...!
I wasn't aware that the 'Unlimited' mobile internet offer was a temporary thing; the orange site itself still says 'New enhanced plan with extra benefits' on the £35 and above tariffs that the mobile internet bundle did come with, but it's not detailed on the information panel. Who do they expect to buy a Diamond with no free data?
My first bill shows I'm not getting billed for any kind of data, for what that's worth.
I asked how much does video calling cost.
They said 35p per min.
I asked are ALL other forms of DATA included in my Unlimited package.
They said yes.
Not seen first bill yet!!!
Fingers crossed.
Video Calling is not the youtube player. Video calling is charged at £35 a min. The you tube player is simply an application that enables the you tube site to be viewed easily.
I can confirm that the unlimited internet package covers the use of the youtube player and various emails. i know orange are sneaky in they use of packages but so far i have not been charged at all for my usage of these packages. When my bill arrives it states how much data i have used, last month was 75mb, and you can check you current usage online to see what they are charging you for. Stand firm.
I've had two bills on the 'unlimited' mobile internet tariff and so far I have not been charged for data usage. First month was 20MB and the second 17MB, but this is a combination of browsing, google maps and my POP3 being set up to poll for new messages every 15minutes.
Jim
well if u ring orange you can also book unlimited usage for a single day only as well, it will cost you £1 or £1.30 and its unlimited(by mean of fair usage poilcy of 2gb) for a day
Does anyone know if the text messaging will be threaded similar to wm 6.1?
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Does anyone know if the text messaging will be threaded similar to wm 6.1?
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it will be similar but yet not similar....................it will be threaded but it wont be all pretty; but yes threaded there is a video that shows this i dont recall which one due to the fact that there are like 30 videos on youtube......but its there somewhere
Thanks for the reply...I really got used to the 6.1 version. I hope somebody way smarter than me develops a nice program similar to what we have been using.
with this being so open...the sky is the limit on what can be done...look at what people have done with WM on here. These guys will be computing their fingers off making new apps...i am sure that we will not have to use the android market..im sure that people will make apps-> download to computer->use computer to put on our SD-> install to phone...
I like the threaded SMS - It's very smooth for me, kind of like a prettier IRC.
I give it 2 weeks max till it comes out if it isn't already on g1, threaded text is my favorite feature from 6.1.
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I give it 2 weeks max till it comes out if it isn't already on g1, threaded text is my favorite feature from 6.1.
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It's there, and is mentioned a few times in the user guide:
G1 User Guide-Page 57 said:
Select a message thread in the list to open it for reading. When open, the individual messages appear stacked on the screen, much like with instant messaging conversations (or chats). Note that messages you send are also listed in the Read view.
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It's there, and is mentioned a few times in the user guide:
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cool..thanks for the reply
questions using the g1 without 25$ plan
-if i buy a g1 in ebay and i dont want to pay the 25$ add. plan, i can use this phone with my tmobil plan?? only have to change the sim card?
-for request a phone now i have to select 35$ or 25$ addicional plan. when i have the phone i can cancel this 25$ or 35$ plan?
now i am using excalibur with 4.99 internet plan.
thanks
Negative. The data plan is required. It will be added to your account when you get the phone. It's tied to the G1.
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Negative. The data plan is required. It will be added to your account when you get the phone. It's tied to the G1.
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Tmo said the same thing with the sidekicks. But after a while you were able to remove sidekick plan.
It may very well be. But the fact is that the data plan is part of buying the phone. If you make changes to the plan within the term of your new, two-year contract, you risk that early-termination fee deal.
For those who didn't re-up a contract for the phone, nobody knows just yet how it will work if you cancel the data plan.
This is like if you go to the AT&T wireless forums, 5000 questions a day about removing the iPhone plan (can't be done). Are there ways around it? We don't know yet. What we do know is, T-Mobile is making you keep the plan as long as you keep the phone, exactly like iPhone. If you can find a way to use it without the plan but still get unlimited data, do that.
technically, if Tmobile doesnt know you have the Dream, they cant make you purchase a package (unless I am missing something). If you leave your phone listed in the My Tmobile as a Dash, or whatever, the options available for that phone are shown and will not include the dream packages. If you buy the phone elsewhere, they wont know until you tell them.
Of course I have absolutely no idea why you would want a phone like this without data (and without text messaging, since they are likely tied) as it would be so crippled.
well t-mobile would know because i called them a day and they told me every phone i've used including the iphone. They said everytime you make a call from you cell they get info on what phone your using
interesting, because they only knew the last phone they sold me when I called them before. I have never bought a Dash from them, yet they allowed me to add tzones access to my "razr" and use it on the Dash for over a year before I upgraded to the full internet plan.
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interesting, because they only knew the last phone they sold me when I called them before. I have never bought a Dash from them, yet they allowed me to add tzones access to my "razr" and use it on the Dash for over a year before I upgraded to the full internet plan.
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Same thing with my tilt... in fact I keep telling them that it's the wing and my.t-mobile.com never saves it. I think that if you have a t-mobile phone they can tell but if it's an att or even a CID/SIM unlocked phone (Correct me if I am wrong on the CID/SIM part) they can still see it but it doesn't match any of their phones so they don't know what it is.
wat if i have familt text messaging can i only pay 15 or 20 for data
Vendor and model/serial number are contained in the IMEI.
eg. 00|000000|111111|0
First 2 groups are TAC and stuff, third is UE serial, last is checksum bit.
IMEI and IMSI are sent to the network when the device attatches to a cell.
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Looked at the spec quickly (just happened to have Rel6 to hand, as you do)
Its in 22.016 if anyone is interested.
Composition of IMEI
The composition of the IMEI shall be such that each individual mobile station equipment can be separately identified.
Information is contained in the IMEI by which the PLMN, after requesting it, can immediately decide whether or not to accept calls made by means of this equipment.
Secondly, the IMEI shall directly or indirectly contain all information which is necessary for the network operator to make relations through its administrative system to trace the equipment to its origin of production. 3GPP TS 23.003 [2] describes the structure of the IMEI in detail
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T-mobile can see every phone you use
Dabs is correct, every time that you make a call the network sees and logs the IMEI number on the phone. I work for T-mobile and when you pull up an account you can see every device that has ever been used on that account and the dates it was used.
T-mobile has traditionally not cared what kind of phone that you use, if you want to buy an unlocked smart phone and you can get internet access working on t-zones they don't care.
T-mobile knows that you are using a G1, the question is do they care. I can personally vouch for the fact that it will work on a blackberry data plan, I had my sim in one today and had full 3G service (averaging roughly 700kps over 3).
Regarding the sidekicks on t-mobile, the data plan is required (but can be removed) because of the way the sidekick stores data on the sidekick server. Sidekicks store the majority of their data on the server. The phone restores data off of the server after being turned off. If you do not have the sidekick data and remover the battery you lose all of the info, contacts, etc, except what is stored on the sim card.
Hey all,
i recently hopped over to sprint and now use and EVO instead of my old G1.
After i transitioned, i lent my G1 to a friend on TMobile.
He turned the phone on, logged into his Google account and is now receiving an active 3G signal.
But here is the thing...
He has NO data plan active with TMobile!
More info:
Before i gave him the phone, i took the SIM card out.
I did a full wipe and bought it back to factory settings.
The phone is rooted and it is currently running the final 1.6 Cyanogen ROM (NOT the newer 2.1 build)
I checked my TMo account, which is still technically active since i plan on fully canceling and porting my number to the new EVO next week. I see that i have no activity on the phone for calls or data.
He checked his TMo account and verified with me that he currently has no active data plan.
So what's the deal with that? It seems like some kind of bug that could be working out VERY much in his favor. We are hesitant to call TMo and ask them about this, for fear of him losing his free 3G service.
Any idea how or why this happened? We're both jazzed about it, but are curious if there is something that we might be missing that could entail him winding up paying for it in the long run.
Thanks for your help, all.
geez, i have FREE sms/text messages on att!
i got no ATT sms/text plan!
wait, they charging me 20cents per texts! haha
yea, your friend has no data plan!
they going to charge him by the MB!
i think each mb is like 1$.
so you use 100mb, they going to charge him 100$ ! haha
really? even if he never registered any 3G data plan of any kind?
Once again, this isn't SMS data or the old school 'download' data.
This is straight up 3G Connectivity.
Also keep in mind that on his online account info, it is showing no information regarding 3G data usage.
I remember when i first got the phone, it wouldn't even let me register my google account on the G1 until i called and fully activated 3G service.
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Also keep in mind that on his online account info, it is showing no information regarding 3G data usage.
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sometime it takes up to 72 hours for account to update.
just dont use too much internet until the next billing cycle!
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sometime it takes up to 72 hours for account to update.
just dont use too much internet until the next billing cycle!
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cool. thanks for the info.
we dug a little deeper and found that he HAS been monitored as using 0.15mb in the last 3 days. so it looks like TMo does have it on record.
It's very interesting that they have made it default to per-megabyte even if you don't choose to use it.
He'll just have to call and ask them to shut off data altogether.
I plugged my friends tmo sim into a g1 I had and the net worked.. Seems his old free wap web feature worked .. But supposedly tmo will notice and cut you off ..
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You don't need a data plan to use data. He'll be getting charged for the data services he has used. The same applies to SMS - if you don't have a text message plan then you pay for incoming and outgoing SMS.
its pay per use data....ur getting charged for it
WOW you guys are lucky.
Here in Canada, the pay-per-use data rate is 5 cents /kB. That comes out to $51.20/MB
He will get caught using the data and either be charged for the data, or be charged with a data plan on his next bill.
I am in the same situation, where I don't use data, so I downloaded APNdroid from the Marketplace. This will deactivate all data (other than wifi). If he doesn't want to be charged, I strongly suggest he gets this program ASAP!
Apndroid doesn't work with 2.1 roms though, so another alternative is the apn widget by curvefish, it does the job too.
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Apndroid doesn't work with 2.1 roms though, so another alternative is the apn widget by curvefish, it does the job too.
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I'm running the latest Cyanogen on my G1 and APNdroid works fine.
I am not sure this is a big deal. I chose to go with what was called a flexpay account when I signed up for T-mobile two years ago because I was terrified of overages. When I lost my job, my phone bill was not on the top of my priority list. With flexpay, you can have your account suspended 45 days before it gets cancelled completely. The entire time it was suspended, I had 3G. Full internet use. Very awesome, because I use my Google voice number for about everything. I just was unable to make or receive voice calls or send and receive sms. They can't charge you for something you haven't signed up for.