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What video settings work (all rants off please :) )

I think most of the active members are aware of the video difficulties SO please (please, please) turn your rants off for this thread. What I am trying to find is a combination of settings that DO work.
My preferred codec is MP4.
From some suggestions in other threads, I have tried these encoding settings.
Screen resolution: 320x240
Frames Per Second: 30
Kbps: 300
Audio codec: [email protected]
...and I am playing back on TCPMP 0.72RC1 using these settings
Options/Video: Raw FrameBuffer
Options/Video/Dither: Off
Options/Video/Pixel Aspect Ratio: Auto
Options/Settings/Advanced/Slow Video Memory: On
Options/Settings/Buffering/Preload at Underrun: 85%
Using this, all I get for video is about 1 frame every 3 seconds. Audio is fine.
So can anyone add this this for getting MP4 to work?
Do I need to use a different codec? If so, I would prefer something other then AVI, since I have a mixed environment. Does anyone have suggestions on the best cross platform Codec, that has work well on the Kaiser?

I'd be interested in this too. I can play back videos taken from the video camera flawlessly but when trying to encode them to the same MP4 codec they can get choppy. Not sure what gives :0

Using WMV here
I couldn't get the mp4 output from my ATI Multimedia Centre software to work at all on my TyTN II so I've settled on WMV 9 at 352 x 288 resolution and 372 kbps (thats at 15 fps). Anything with higher bit rate than that seems to cause problems with to much screen tearing during fast movement scenes.

You might want to follow this thread... seams that the Core Player is attacking this known problem for the Tilt. I'm by no means an expert on this, but seems like the Qualcomm QTV technology for the video has some issues:
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=596.0

I use PDXE, Lathe, and a few others to encode Divx videos at 320x240 video quality at "28" audio in stereo at 96 or 128k MP3 with a total bitrate under 500k (usually shoot for 475kbps). If the encoder allows it, for portable video I bump the audio volume by 15% and I increase brightness as well. To me most movies look darker on the small screen. If cropping is allowed I crop widescreen content, cutting off some of the sides of the picture to get closer to the 3:4 ratio of PDA screen. I also like to turn the brightness down as much as possible to increase battery life so the bump in brightness helps there as well. An average movie 1:50 length is about 480MB
I've used Core and TCPMP (currently using TCPMP for the youtube capability) and use Rawframe buffer as well. I'm sure that Core 1.2 will make things even better.
I get 30FPS and normal fluid video, looks like my other 8525, hx4700, and Archos 320 and 400 units with crisp clear video, no complaints.

This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only the phone???
Flying Kiwi said:
I couldn't get the mp4 output from my ATI Multimedia Centre software to work at all on my TyTN II so I've settled on WMV 9 at 352 x 288 resolution and 372 kbps (thats at 15 fps). Anything with higher bit rate than that seems to cause problems with to much screen tearing during fast movement scenes.
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This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only onthe phone???
I have an TiLt and when i try to record videos on my phone in MP4, it appears to work fine and i can play it back on my phone using TCPMP. but when i try to run this on my computer rnning vista it only shows video with no sound.
What can be causing this, is there a way to fix this and has anyone else noticed this..
ps. i hope ths has not been spoken about b4, i hate sounding like a nubie

zulualpha7 said:
This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only onthe phone???
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There's lots avout video formats in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The H.264 (a.k.a. MPEG-4 Part 10 and AVC) Bible
FWIW my mp4s recorded on my TyTN II wont playback on my PC either, it's simply a case of finding a suitable codec.

recorded videos on Tilt not playing on vista with sound!! I GOT IT FIXXX
Flying Kiwi said:
There's lots avout video formats in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The H.264 (a.k.a. MPEG-4 Part 10 and AVC) Bible
FWIW my mp4s recorded on my TyTN II wont playback on my PC either, it's simply a case of finding a suitable codec.
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Hey thanx for the reply but VLC is what i got installed and doesnt work, thought someone else had the same issue like mine. The .MP4 files that the TiLT records doesnt playback properly. PROBLEM is : I get the video portion just fine, but no sound. I have the. I tried in Media Player, VLC, QuickTime, RealPlayer, etc.... All the same... video plays but no sound.
I googled the issue and found out some other HTC phone users got it too and a couple solutions i found are.
1. In QuickTime it says: "Error 2041 - Invalid sample description in movie"
Solution: Checked the Apple.com or quicktime forums, if you use quicktime, change the file name from .MP4 to .3GP and it will work, it will not work otherwise. (if you dont know how to rename the files or dont see extension, Windows vista or XP go to tools>folder options>view>uncheck hide file extensions for known file types and voila)
2. Since I did so much reading on this, I got a new player (KMPlayer) that beats vlc in my books it plays the files recorded from the tilt just fine unlike VLC latest build, its fast and does all vlc does but it has a better GUI and plays anything you throw at it. you can get kmplayer here
Conclusion: The TiLt is fine, just that I couldnt get the right player to run the video files it records. apparently there is some issue with the qualcomm processor and the video output files of .MP4, some others have reported issues with any .MP4 files and had to do the same listed above.
Hope this helps someone here...

if you want an mp4 player on your pc for free, go to nokia.com

zulualpha7 said:
Hey thanx for the reply but VLC is what i got installed and doesnt work, thought someone else had the same issue like mine. The .MP4 files that the TiLT records doesnt playback properly. PROBLEM is : I get the video portion just fine, but no sound. I have the. I tried in Media Player, VLC, QuickTime, RealPlayer, etc.... All the same... video plays but no sound.
I googled the issue and found out some other HTC phone users got it too and a couple solutions i found are.
1. In QuickTime it says: "Error 2041 - Invalid sample description in movie"
Solution: Checked the Apple.com or quicktime forums, if you use quicktime, change the file name from .MP4 to .3GP and it will work, it will not work otherwise. (if you dont know how to rename the files or dont see extension, Windows vista or XP go to tools>folder options>view>uncheck hide file extensions for known file types and voila)
2. Since I did so much reading on this, I got a new player (KMPlayer) that beats vlc in my books it plays the files recorded from the tilt just fine unlike VLC latest build, its fast and does all vlc does but it has a better GUI and plays anything you throw at it. you can get kmplayer here
Conclusion: The TiLt is fine, just that I couldnt get the right player to run the video files it records. apparently there is some issue with the qualcomm processor and the video output files of .MP4, some others have reported issues with any .MP4 files and had to do the same listed above.
Hope this helps someone here...
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MANY THANKS! zulualpha7,
I have had the error 2041 problem for a long time and have never been able to play vids recorded on my TyTn II on my PC.
I almost installed various codec packs as other forum members have done but after reading about potential problems of having multiple codecs for same file type and upsetting the system I decided not to do this.
I have some really important 'once in a lifetime' family moments like my friend's son catching his first fish etc... I though they were all lost for ever.
I just downloaded latest Quicktime and renamed file extensions to ".3gp" like you said and now I can watch everything!!!!
Thank you so much this really has been a big improvement for me.
ONCE AGAIN THIS FORUM ROCKS! Thanks to everyone for so much fantastic helpful info.

Video taken on TILT play but no sound on PC

Ok I recorded a video on my TILT that I want to post on Youtube. I transferred the Video from my TILT to my PC and when I play it, it opens in VLC. I see the video but get no Sound.
When I play video on my kaiser I could hear sound and everything. What am I doing wrong?
The file is mp4 so it should open in VLC. I forgot how to get into the associations part on VLC I went through like everything option. I don't think that'll fix the prob because I could still see the video just can't hear the sound. Any ideas.
The video was 22 minutes long. If that helps. Taken in 2x zoom.
If I open anything else on my PC on VLC I have no problems with the files. I could see and hear.

gqstatus0685 said:
Ok I recorded a video on my TILT that I want to post on Youtube. I transferred the Video from my TILT to my PC and when I play it, it opens in VLC. I see the video but get no Sound.
When I play video on my kaiser I could hear sound and everything. What am I doing wrong?
The file is mp4 so it should open in VLC. I forgot how to get into the associations part on VLC I went through like everything option. I don't think that'll fix the prob because I could still see the video just can't hear the sound. Any ideas.
The video was 22 minutes long. If that helps. Taken in 2x zoom.
If I open anything else on my PC on VLC I have no problems with the files. I could see and hear.
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make sure you have the correct codecs installed.. you can try downloading the klite codec pack or the ace mega codec pack and that might solve your problem.. you should be able to google both of them and find download links (they're both freeware)

i havent tried that player but i do have the mega pack and that didnt help with me playing it with windows media player. i would get the same thing, video but no sound. i converted the file to something else like .avi, .mpge, etc. and now it works fine.

So basically just convert the file.

never could get sound on mp4 files unless i used quicktime

Funny thing is that I used quicktime and it didnt even play sound either. I'm going to convert it when I get home. It's a funny vid of me and my boys having a funny conversation. You'd get a kick out of it.

Playing Kaiser Videos on a PC

So I've taken a lot of videos of my tilt, but I can't get them to play on my PC. They're in .mp4 format but they won't play in WMP, iTunes, QuickTime, or GOM Player. Anyone know a program that can handle these or what I can do to perhaps change the format the phone outputs them?

VLC should work.

After I move the video files from my tilt to my computer, I just rename the file from mp4 to 3gp, example: "video1.mp4" to "video1.3gp". It plays fine in quicktime after that. It gives me a warning that changing the file extension might make the file unreadable or something, but I haven't had a problem yet.

VLC (the aggressive player) will play anything you want, just get the right edition for you.
Click Here to Download VLC

VLC won't work. It plays the audio but the screen is blank. =/

That's odd, my copy of VLC plays the Video but not the audio....
You can upload them to youtube and myspace and they will play fine there...lol

Spartan2x said:
That's odd, my copy of VLC plays the Video but not the audio....
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same here, except WMP plays the audio and video fine for me, but then when i try and exit it crashes lol

dude wtf...why cant it just output normal video

Hello,
I have the same issue. I could not have VLC read the movies correctly.
I now use Mirksoft Mobile 3GP converter to transform my videos into avi format (with correct output on VLC).
It can be found here : http://www.miksoft.net/
Hope this helps

there is a quicktime codec for vlc, with this you have sound and video

if you want them to play in WMP, you need a 3ivx codec.
http://www.3ivx.com/codec/download_win.php?format=exe
It's a trial, but it DOES work.

try this one Gom Player http://www.gomlab.com/eng/ it downlads codecs if you dont have them it should read any video.

boss1234 said:
After I move the video files from my tilt to my computer, I just rename the file from mp4 to 3gp, example: "video1.mp4" to "video1.3gp". It plays fine in quicktime after that. It gives me a warning that changing the file extension might make the file unreadable or something, but I haven't had a problem yet.
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I tried this and it worked just fine! Just changed the file extension to .3gp and it play perfectly in quicktime, good audio/video.

Get Video Off Of The Tilt!!!!

Ok. I recorded some video on my AT&T Tilt with a memory card. It plays fine on my phone. Well I want to get it on my computer. When I tried to, it was in the MP4 format. So I opened it with Quicktime and iTunes and it wouldn't play. It said there was an error. So I was gonna convert it. I tried to, but it gave me a warning saying that it would have no sound, so I didn't do that. Then I downloaded VLC Player and when I played the videos, they didn't have sound. I tried putting them in Windows Media Center, didn't work. I tried ActiveSync. Didn't work. There has to be some possible way to do this. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!

Same thing happens to me. Now I just record in the other format, QIF I believe. And that works fine.

THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!

how did you even get "good" video playback?
how did you even get "good" video on the TILT? is it the change in file type that makes the video better in itself? where do you change it?

You can change to CIF by selecting it from the Capture Settings menu (hit menu when the camera is running) under Resolution. The capture format can be changed from MPEG-4 to H.263 if you go to Advanced > Capture Format.
Recording in a well-lit environment helps. I'm not usually affected by placebo, but I and a few other users have reported increased camera performance after installing the latest test drivers for the Kaiser from htcclassaction.org. It DID seem that the framerate was higher. I can't rule out the possibility that updating to windows mobile 6.1 may have made a difference, but I know I don't keep apps running in the background and the comparison whilst not scientific would be pretty fair.

What can be used to view H.263 on the home pc? Will media player play it? And is there a good reason why it just doesn't record to .wmv or regular old mpeg? As you can tell I am a moron when it comes to video.

VLC will read it

kbcherry said:
What can be used to view H.263 on the home pc? Will media player play it? And is there a good reason why it just doesn't record to .wmv or regular old mpeg? As you can tell I am a moron when it comes to video.
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QuickTime will play H.263 encoded files.
The Tilt does not use WMV or MPEG because they do not have formats optimized for mobile devices, so the files end up being huge.

Thanks, that makes sense!

my mp4 videos run fine on wm player! try downloading the vista or xp codec pack which is available on most torrent sites

I know its old but anyway...I record video w/ my kaiser, bluetooth the video over to my laptop, convert with WM convert, open w/ movie maker, edit then post. Sooooooooo easy and no cables required!

You're all going through waaaay to much by using converters & what not. When recording in mpeg4 format just rename the files to ".3gp" after you transfer them to your computer and they will play regularly through quicktime with sound & everything intact.

download K lite codec pack: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_lite_codec_pack.htm
it will allow windows media player to play ANYTHING, throw and file at it and it will play

VLC Works for me
VLC works for me, try it

TLJack64 said:
You're all going through waaaay to much by using converters & what not. When recording in mpeg4 format just rename the files to ".3gp" after you transfer them to your computer and they will play regularly through quicktime with sound & everything intact.
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Use a converter to be able to edit the video in windows movie maker, it takes like 10 seconds to convert a MPEG4 to WMV. (i've got the codec pack but in order to edit the video you need to convert it.)

Watching Divx films films very Jumpy

Hi,
When i try and watch my divx films through tcpmp or via divx player thye are always very jumpy. Anyone got any ideas?

Welcome to the kaiser, you're bringing up pretty much the first ever complaint about the phone.
There are many things people do to try and solve the problem. Search them out and see if any work for you.

Have tried differant roms, different players and also differant video drivers

Those are the sort of things you put in the original post.
what size are the movie files, format, etc.

600mb avi files

convert the files to the resolution of the kaiser screen 320x240 or something.

RIGHT, geez mine are about 200mb MAX, and it runs pretty good.

ChumleyEX said:
RIGHT, geez mine are about 200mb MAX, and it runs pretty good.
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Same here use AONE FLV to AVI MPEG WMV 3GP MP4 iPod Converter don't be fooled by name will convert anything to anything & get about 200mb max files keeping audio bit down, rez right for output, one thing has to be correct is framerate as hate 2/1 effects.