Possibility of WM6.1 - Pro running on Wings? - HTC Wings

I noticed that a group got the HTC Startrek running WM Pro edition really well and was wondering if maybe we can see a version running on the Vox or Wings possibly. With an actual keyboard to work with it may be easier using the Wing or Vox compared to the Startrek.
Anyone else wanting pro edition running on their device? I know I do

I wonder why?!

nehhh
Pro is for touchscreen.
Why should we, nothing different.
Only that you than can install PPC apps and don't can install smartphone apps.
Is that nice?
Correct me iff I'm wrong.

you can install some sp apps, for example total commander

nielswillems said:
Pro is for touchscreen.
Why should we, nothing different.
Only that you than can install PPC apps and don't can install smartphone apps.
Is that nice?
Correct me iff I'm wrong.
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Sorry,but you are wrong...
Most SP-Apps wont install,because there are differences in some Cab-Configs, but most of them works well...
The PRO OS works well on SP, the OS is nearly useable like Standart, (no big differences, you can navigate with dpad+softkeys on ppc, too...)
It is like a PPC with the lack of a Touchscreen, you can carry most of the PPC apps you love,but not be able to install on your Standart-SP...
...and the WINGS got a qwert y/z Keypad...ideal to use as SIP...
Ive a StarTrak and a Tornado, both are running PRO, i like it, sure, its not useable like a PPC with Touchscreen, but nice to have...

Thank you for correcting me.
I know a little more now.

Who can help?Ive extracted some Roms, copied the sys-Folder,moved the coredll,reallocate all items with GReloc, read all threads...every time after flashing, the phone stucks in BootScreen (BlackOne with red letters..)
Someone else try?Impossible for me to port a PRO Rom to WINGS...
Use the Kaiserkitchen to dump+rebuild a WINGS/KAISER ROM..!

Interested
If this port could be done, it would be very great ! I'm not able to help you doing this because I don't have experience in ROM cooking or porting, but if WM6.1 Pro could run on my Wings, I think I would use it ...

Could be done....i am sure...but not by me...
For now, the pro OS runs well on StarTrak,Typhoon and Tornado...but WINGS and VOX are the perfect Phones to run on PRO...

But can the PRO version be navgated using keys only?

Yes,the pure OS did not really need a Touchscreen...some 3rd Apps need the advice of SPHelper or FakeCursor...or a little MortScript...
The SIP is a small issue,->maybe solved by Sliding Keyboard....
But the main phone is useable like a StandartSP...
alcaline,....... please,please,...... give it a try....

arpy said:
...but WINGS and VOX are the perfect Phones to run on PRO...
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Yes! That's why I am so interested ... I prefer the Pro version of WM to the Standard one, but I don't like touch screens, and as arpy said WM Pro doesn't need obsolutly touch screen, except some third party softwares

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Windows 6.1 interface ?

Where i'm find the interface presented for windows mobile 6.1 like http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/06/03/customizing-the-sliding-panel-homescreen.aspx this ??? txs a lot !
ABstar said:
Where i'm find the interface presented for windows mobile 6.1 like http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/06/03/customizing-the-sliding-panel-homescreen.aspx this ??? txs a lot !
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If you read the thing it says
The built in plug-in names are:
1) CClock – The big clock
2) CAppointments - The calendar plugin
3) CHome – The notifications plugin
4) CMyPhotos – The photos plugin
5) CMessage – The message center (this is off by default on all sliding panel built in layouts.
6) CMusic – The music plugin
7) Settings – The settings plug-in
8) Custom Plugins – Users can specify custom plug-ins with static content that can be displayed on the home screen.
Just search and download those plugins and you can get it
Where i'm download ?
ABstar said:
Where i'm download ?
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Your Kaiser is running WM6.1 Professional.
What you see there is WM6.1 Standard (non-touchscreen)
johanromijn said:
Your Kaiser is running WM6.1 Professional.
What you see there is WM6.1 Standard (non-touchscreen)
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He should still be able to run the plugins though . Just obviously no touchscreen support.
@ OP here is a good place to find them
So are there any ROMS that use the new interface?
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So are there any ROMS that use the new interface?
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No. As stated above, this interface is for Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard, for non-touchscreen smartphones only. Since you would only see a pretty picture with no touch response, cooks will not bother to include it in their ROMs (not a bad thing).
Ah I see, I read that backward in my head. Damn dyslexia!
That interface would be very nice if it was finger friendly
I have tried throttle launcher and pointui, both of which were lacking. Does anyone know of other UIs?
livefastdiefun87 said:
He should still be able to run the plugins though . Just obviously no touchscreen support.
@ OP here is a good place to find them
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There's a difference between Home plugins and Today plugins.
Frankly, I'm a little disappointed with WM6.1 Pro. WM6.1 Std is the best thing since sliced bread. Totally revitalises the crippled smartphone interface.
What did 6.1 do for Pro?
Yea I agree. 6.1 Pro looks and acts much the same as 6.0. After seeing all the screenshots and videos of 6.1 Standard that my expectations were relatively high for Pro. To make matter worse my brother-in-law just showed off his iPhone 3G today. Its interface is so much smoother and user friendly than what I can get for my Tilt. I guess MS still thinks a stylus is better than a finger; I disagree.
Oh well, I guess we can't have our cake and eat it too!
NotATreoFan said:
No. As stated above, this interface is for Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard, for non-touchscreen smartphones only. Since you would only see a pretty picture with no touch response, cooks will not bother to include it in their ROMs (not a bad thing).
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I think I'd rather have a useful, goodlooking today screen that I use with the hardware buttons than a bunch of plugins that dont really do exactly what you want them to anyways. Dont you think so? I'm starting to get fed up with HTC Home...
reonan said:
I think I'd rather have a useful, goodlooking today screen that I use with the hardware buttons than a bunch of plugins that dont really do exactly what you want them to anyways. Dont you think so? I'm starting to get fed up with HTC Home...
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I already gave up on HTC Home. I haven't even installed it on the last 5+ flashes. I agree with the sentiment in several other threads that Microsoft really screwed-the-pooch on 6.1 Professional with regards to interface upgrades (read: none), but I also wouldn't want my Today screen to be filled up with icons I cannot tap for a response.
NotATreoFan said:
I already gave up on HTC Home. I haven't even installed it on the last 5+ flashes. I agree with the sentiment in several other threads that Microsoft really screwed-the-pooch on 6.1 Professional with regards to interface upgrades (read: none), but I also wouldn't want my Today screen to be filled up with icons I cannot tap for a response.
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What other today screen have you been using? I tried HTC, Winterface, Point UI( both version). I was thinking about the Touch Xperience(?).
bennyj71 said:
What other today screen have you been using? I tried HTC, Winterface, Point UI( both version). I was thinking about the Touch Xperience(?).
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I don't use anything. Just the default WM Home Screen.

Omnia or Pixon Port/Rom?

Ive noticed that the Manila cab from the blackstone has been ported over so was just wondering if it was possible with the pixon/omina.
I was playing with a friends today and I have to say, this phone is MUCH faster than the X1 and it is definatly a better phone. The only advantage the X1 has is panel and a hard keyboard.
As the Omnia or Pixon run of WinMo6.1 would it be difficult to port it?
I mean, it supports landscape which would obv be triggered by the keyboard being pulled out rather than a accelrometer.
Also, the camera kicks ass on the Omnia. Face Detection and 5mp! I know 5mp is impossible on the X1 but is face dectection too hard to implement? Im guessing the only difference between the two phones is the hardware, so face detection is done on a software level.
It would be great to have this on the X1 as I really like the Omnia and am tempted to swap my X1 for it. The only thing im keeping my X1 for is the panels (not sure why) and the hard keyboard.
Or could the panels be ported to the Omnia?
Evostance said:
I was playing with a friends today and I have to say, this phone is MUCH faster than the X1 and it is definatly a better phone. The only advantage the X1 has is panel and a hard keyboard.
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Wait ....... What ?
I dont know how about you, but surfing the internet @ 240*400 is a pain in the ass IMO. More: No d-pad, no OpenGL-ES (?), WAY worse battery life, etc etc.
The Omnia is no match for the X1.
[edit] Oh, wow, I totally forgot about the Omnia's 128MB of RAM vs the 256MB of the X1 ...
Haha, i personally feel that i will keep the X1 instead, how i was hoping to get a X1 or Touch HD , just go throw in the TF3D from Touch Hd, you will love it...
SomeoneSimple said:
Wait ....... What ?
I dont know how about you, but surfing the internet @ 240*400 is a pain in the ass IMO. More: No d-pad, no OpenGL-ES (?), WAY worse battery life, etc etc.
The Omnia is no match for the X1.
[edit] Oh, wow, I totally forgot about the Omnia's 128MB of RAM vs the 256MB of the X1 ...
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100% agree
Wow...any of you thought about reading.
I asked for a port of the ROM not a port of the hardware....
Merry Xmas
my understanding is that pixon is a toy phone with a crazy camera from hell
Well the Pixon is its own OS. The Omnia is a windows based phone with a fancy interface and a crazy ass camera.
To be fair, I think they're both equal in term of perfurmance (Omnia has faster processor while Xperia has larger ram) and the OpenGL in Xperia is already taken by the WVGA screen (while in Omnia it WQVGA with no OpenGL) but it still support DivX.
Omnia outstands the Xperia in the camera, including it's flash (although it's Sony's speciality) and Xperia outstands Omina in the display (monitor).
Xperia UI (Panels) is way better than Omnia's (TouchWiz); they're both handy and finger-friendly but TouchWiz is uncustomizable.
Also, Xperia has a full keyboard and more buttons on the outside while Omnia has G-Sensor (Accelerometer) and less in weight, size and price.
Finally, Xperia is better when it comes to SSD Memory Card (don't have to remove the battery) and Stylus (stuck inside instead of hanging on the side). But with the 8 GB inside Omnia, no one needs SSD Memory Card and the interfaces in both are already finger-freindly so through away your styluses.
Well if we go back to the subject...
I think that the difference in screen resolution is a hard nut to crack when porting all the stuff in Omnia to the X1.
[email protected] said:
Well if we go back to the subject...
I think that the difference in screen resolution is a hard nut to crack when porting all the stuff in Omnia to the X1.
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exporting doesn't mean raw exporting; it's more of programming the same concept considering the target PPC. I think it's been made already for QVGA devices.
Evostance said:
Wow...any of you thought about reading.
I asked for a port of the ROM not a port of the hardware....
Merry Xmas
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You're right that they didn't answer your question. However, you have to admit; when you need info from people in the X1 forum it's not smart to start by telling why you feel the Omnia is so much better (We all love the X1 here!), as you'll compel others to start a discussion on it.
About that, I've experienced an Omnia. It's a nice toy, but just that, a toy. The X1 is for serious business.
Having said that, I think it's not that easy to port things like panels to the Omnia. As stated above the Omnia's screen just fails in comparison to the X1. Then there's hardware and driver issues to tackle if you get past resolution. I highly doubt you'll find a coder who's willing to do this for you.
I like the Idea of an Omnia Panel
Generally I am tired of the dicussion between the preferences of Omnia / Touch HD / Xperia and so on but I reallylike the idea to have the different phone software on different panels of my X1. Thats why I decided to contribute to this thread. Of course it is not easy to port the Omnia software to the Xperia because of different screen resulution and acceleromater different drivers etc. but thats the challenge!!!
To start the challengenge I want to post all extracted Omnia apps which can found on the following website:
[URL="http://mobile.etechniker.com/"]http://mobile.etechniker.com/[/URL]
I am no developer but already tried to install different apps but with out success. Installing works very well but when you like to start the following error occurs:
"The file 'Contents Manager' can not be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file."
Moreover, today plugins and widgets can not be activated after installation. I already tried the new Samsung D3d drivers and Flash lite to install before I start the apps without any success.
Hope there is anybody else interested in porting Omnia apps to the X1 and can help with this issues.
premutos said:
Generally I am tired of the dicussion between the preferences of Omnia / Touch HD / Xperia and so on but I reallylike the idea to have the different phone software on different panels of my X1. Thats why I decided to contribute to this thread. Of course it is not easy to port the Omnia software to the Xperia because of different screen resulution and acceleromater different drivers etc. but thats the challenge!!!
To start the challengenge I want to post all extracted Omnia apps which can found on the following website:
[URL="http://mobile.etechniker.com/"]http://mobile.etechniker.com/[/URL]
I am no developer but already tried to install different apps but with out success. Installing works very well but when you like to start the following error occurs:
"The file 'Contents Manager' can not be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file."
Moreover, today plugins and widgets can not be activated after installation. I already tried the new Samsung D3d drivers and Flash lite to install before I start the apps without any success.
Hope there is anybody else interested in porting Omnia apps to the X1 and can help with this issues.
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The thread starter wants it the other way around X1 --> Omnia.
OK If this is the way the thread is about lets delete is from the Xperia Rom section because it does not make any sence to spam rom section. We can start a new thread if anybody is interested in the topic Omnia Panel for X1.

New diamond for XMAS -- questions

My wife got me a diamond for christmas, it replaced an original Touch (vogue). I wonder if I could bother the experts with a few questions..
1. Other than keyboard and memory expansion is there any real benefit to go with a touch pro? I had 2gb expansion on my old touch and never exceeded it.
2. My carrier is sprint, model is DIAM500, ROM 1.09.651.5 Which if any Custom ROM upgrade would y'all recomend,
3. Major complaint: I listen to a lot of audio books. When listening and wearing headphones OR using aux input on sterio, it auto answers even though I have auto answer turned off in phone settings... any ideas.
4. I've installed a new theme, only complaint is home screen limited plug-ins. Does HTC have a TF3D API to expand or is that limited?
5. I have advanced config installed, gyro 2 installed, TFT3d config, and sbp phone suite... any other "essentials" anyone can recomend?
I have limited WM and CE development experience (Ford Sync and WM5 basic apps). Any dev tools a "must have" for development or theme development for this phone?
I have tried to find some of the above answers but have not had much luck, perhaps because of my limited knowledge. Any assistance would be most appreciated.
1 think only the touch pro support the tv out cable
and for development then depend on what you wish to develop
if you wish to develop apps you will need
visual studio if you want to make .net apps and visual studio and wm6 std if you wish
to develop c++ win32 apps
if you just want to make skins ms paint is likely to be enough
2. My carrier is sprint, model is DIAM500, ROM 1.09.651.5 Which if any Custom ROM upgrade would y'all recomend,
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Honnestly, it all depends of your needs. Some like to go more all out where as others like to have faster roms in terms of response. So it's really what you want to have.
Also there are different rom versions which do extra stuff. Depends what you want to do.
Make sure you read the HOW TO's section in the ROM Development section.
4. I've installed a new theme, only complaint is home screen limited plug-ins. Does HTC have a TF3D API to expand or is that limited?
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By plug-ins do you mean the idea to add "tabs" to TFL3D?
5. I have advanced config installed, gyro 2 installed, TFT3d config, and sbp phone suite... any other "essentials" anyone can recomend?
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Make sure you get yourself a GPS software hahaha
You may want to look at the whole debate behind SensorLock, S2U2 and AutoKeysDisabler (not quite sure of the exact name). SensorLock is what I use and is pretty good for what it does.
I have limited WM and CE development experience (Ford Sync and WM5 basic apps). Any dev tools a "must have" for development or theme development for this phone?
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If you want to make applications for windows mobile, like Rudegar said you will need Visual Studio.
If you wish only to make tweaks and package them in cabs for other uses to use, consider WinCE Cab Manager.
Enjoy your Diamond
Thanks for the responses guys! Most appreciated.
D0MZE said:
Honnestly, it all depends of your needs. Some like to go more all out where as others like to have faster roms in terms of response. So it's really what you want to have.
Also there are different rom versions which do extra stuff. Depends what you want to do.
Make sure you read the HOW TO's section in the ROM Development section.
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Will do. Are most ROM's carrier specific (or will I find out in the how to's? )
By plug-ins do you mean the idea to add "tabs" to TFL3D?
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No, not tabls, but the home screen... on mine I only have a clock, call history, and calendar available. I'm used to the old home screen where I could enable which plug-ins to display (e.g. SPB phone suite today plug in). Don't get me wrong, I can adjust just fine if not available...
Make sure you get yourself a GPS software hahaha
You may want to look at the whole debate behind SensorLock, S2U2 and AutoKeysDisabler (not quite sure of the exact name). SensorLock is what I use and is pretty good for what it does.
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Will definately look at those. I was hoping there was something beyond the sprint navigation stuff...
If you want to make applications for windows mobile, like Rudegar said you will need Visual Studio.
If you wish only to make tweaks and package them in cabs for other uses to use, consider WinCE Cab Manager.
Enjoy your Diamond
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Rudegar & DOMZE...
Yup, got VS 2008 enterprise + WM6 sdk and emulators. Will look into WinCE cab manager. Is HTC going to release an SDK for the TF3D?
jhinze said:
My wife got me a diamond for christmas, it replaced an original Touch (vogue). I wonder if I could bother the experts with a few questions..
1. Other than keyboard and memory expansion is there any real benefit to go with a touch pro? I had 2gb expansion on my old touch and never exceeded it.
2. My carrier is sprint, model is DIAM500, ROM 1.09.651.5 Which if any Custom ROM upgrade would y'all recomend,
3. Major complaint: I listen to a lot of audio books. When listening and wearing headphones OR using aux input on sterio, it auto answers even though I have auto answer turned off in phone settings... any ideas.
4. I've installed a new theme, only complaint is home screen limited plug-ins. Does HTC have a TF3D API to expand or is that limited?
5. I have advanced config installed, gyro 2 installed, TFT3d config, and sbp phone suite... any other "essentials" anyone can recomend?
I have limited WM and CE development experience (Ford Sync and WM5 basic apps). Any dev tools a "must have" for development or theme development for this phone?
I have tried to find some of the above answers but have not had much luck, perhaps because of my limited knowledge. Any assistance would be most appreciated.
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1. This answer depends on the user. For those who like texting with one hand and feel that 4gb of internal storage is more than adequate, like myself, then the soft-keyboard only device is fine.
2. As far as custom roms go, the second thing you should look at is getting hardspl on your phone; the first being the CDMA section of this board.
3. an app? an ipod?
4. im sorry that's beyond my limited realm of knowledge. TF3D seems fairly closed to that stuff.
5. phm registry editor
Umm yeah, so... hi.

Mobile 6.5 and programs requiring VGA res without WGAFix3 - HOW??????

I really like all these windows mobile 6.5 roms that are popping up for experia, but i cannot justify using one without the ability to use WVGA fix. I use Picodrive and Finalburn along with Tomtom 6 and some other software, none of which work without WVGAFix3 which itsself is said not to work with 6.5.
There must be a load of people now with 6.5 roms, that like this software so how does everybody else do it? Or does everybody really just stop using their favorite software in favor of a 6.5 rom?
I have found nothing in the WVGAFix thread.
C'mon guys.....i cant be the only one faced with this dilemma?
Even if you use WM 6.5 (like me ;-) ) you can use WGAFix3. It doesnt give a black bar after use - but the Apps work after activating WGAFix - and before they didnt worked.
Have fun.
ddevey said:
I really like all these windows mobile 6.5 roms that are popping up for experia, but i cannot justify using one without the ability to use WVGA fix. I use Picodrive and Finalburn along with Tomtom 6 and some other software, none of which work without WVGAFix3 which itsself is said not to work with 6.5.
There must be a load of people now with 6.5 roms, that like this software so how does everybody else do it? Or does everybody really just stop using their favorite software in favor of a 6.5 rom?
I have found nothing in the WVGAFix thread.
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Hello,
I am also looking for a program like WVGAFix work on my WM6.5, I have a program need resolution 240 x 320 to be worked on my WM6.5 machine with resolution 480 x 800.
Please help! Thanks!
If anyone comes up with anything let me know as well ....
Maybe you should ask in the General section? Surely X2 is not the only WV mobile with WVGA resolution. And tell us if you find anything.
(I don't have my X2 at the moment and my Kaiser has QVGA resolution.)

X1 (n97) - a lot of help needed

Hi,
I`m new to this forums , but I find it quite impressive.
First of all, Im here to ask for an advice, any help would be quite appreciated.
Im looking to buy new phone and my decision is either xperia x1 or nokia n97.
I believe everyone here will tell me that x1 is the way to go for its customisability , but I would like to say what are my needs and maybe it will be easier to help me with the decision.
Right now I have sony ericsson P910 , pretty old smartphone with symbian OS (7.0 ??) , and I managed to find some software for it which I use, and thats the exactly software I would like to continue to use on my new phone, and some new ones.
I intend to be online almost at all times , to administrate some sites, meaning need fast good browser, irc program, msn, remote desktop also, maybe some ftp client as well, and all of that to be active at all times.
Also some blacklisting call manager (maybe now every newer phone has it ?), pdf reader, office package, but thats not a priority.
I must say Im somewhat concerned about reported slowness of x1, but I see there are some custom roms that may be better, but reading these forums its seems to me they are like toys to try and delete if not good, and to tell u the truth I dont have so much time to do flashing of the phone always.
I also read that x1 has more ram memory and faster processor than n97, but then again maybe symbian doesn`t need so much resources ?
so priorities for me are fast system, reliable without much crashing and bugs, and to be able to run all of those software I need.
so here are the questions:
1. Symbian or winmob ( consider the software that I need , remote desktop for example, also speed and resources) ?
2. winmo 6.1 or winmo 6.5 for x1? which is faster in the cleanest form without additional software ?
3. Is it best to go for official sony firmware update R3 or to go for some custom lite ver. rom, if I want only the cleanest and basic rom ? Meaning the speed and reliability ? if some custom rom then which one ?
4. which custom full rom has been reported to be the fastest and with the least bugs ?
5. I must say I would like to use winmo6.5 only cause finger friendly capabilities. If I read correctly there is not and will never be winmo 6.5 officially from sony, so in that case I will have to use some custom rom , so I need suggestion on the fastest and least bugs 6.5 custom rom
And the last thing is the availability and the price:
I can get new x1 for ~320 Euros and that n97 used but in good condition for no less then 400-450 Euros .
Actually i hold that n97 is my hands and is very good and x1 I only saw at pictures.
And btw qwerty keyboard is very important for me so if anyone knows which one has better keyboard pls let me know.
Camera has not any importance to me.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated, Im sorry if some of my questions were already written before, but I wanted to present my situation and to get the best out of it, so once again sorry and your help is very much appreciated.
Cheers,
Srle
P.S. that n97 has version 10 and I read that ver 12 is the newest one, and Im not even sure how to upgrade to the latest one, is it also flashing the device or something other ?
w00t, as a self-proclaimed Symbian fanboy I can be very onjective about your question.
Xperia can do all those things ans can do them better and faster. N97 is the first (failed) attempt from Nokia to make a good touchscreen smartphone (and no xzzprezzzmuzzzik does not count). All users of the N97 are used as beta testers and to point out bugs and wrong design decisions. N97 is buggy, has worse hardware than the X1 and is uglier lol.
Now for the questions:
1 - WinMo is a pocket PC platform with PC-like experience in your pocket while Symbian is just a smartphone one.
2 - 6.1 is still performing better and is still more stable. Might change in the future.
3 - Official R3A for sure. More stable and reliable. Custom ROMs are goos for experimenting and for answering specific needs.
4 - My knowledge is not up to date, but I think "itje" makes pretty good ones.
5 - 6.1 will suit your better.
N97's keyboard is PATHETIC. X1's keyboard is second only to the Touch Pro 2's one.
Oh, by the way, you won't be able to install your programs on the N97. Symbian has no backwards compatibility, in other words, the newer versions of Symbian don't support the programs made for the older versions. You will have to buy/find those apps all over again.
Cheers .
icbicb said:
I believe everyone here will tell me that x1 is the way to go for its customisability.
I intend to be online almost at all times , to administrate some sites, meaning need fast good browser, irc program, msn, remote desktop also, maybe some ftp client as well, and all of that to be active at all times.
Also some blacklisting call manager (maybe now every newer phone has it ?), pdf reader, office package, but thats not a priority.
so priorities for me are fast system, reliable without much crashing and bugs, and to be able to run all of those software I need.
so here are the questions:
1. Symbian or winmob ( consider the software that I need , remote desktop for example, also speed and resources) ?
2. winmo 6.1 or winmo 6.5 for x1? which is faster in the cleanest form without additional software ?
3. Is it best to go for official sony firmware update R3 or to go for some custom lite ver. rom, if I want only the cleanest and basic rom ? Meaning the speed and reliability ? if some custom rom then which one ?
4. which custom full rom has been reported to be the fastest and with the least bugs ?
5. I must say I would like to use winmo6.5 only cause finger friendly capabilities. If I read correctly there is not and will never be winmo 6.5 officially from sony, so in that case I will have to use some custom rom , so I need suggestion on the fastest and least bugs 6.5 custom rom
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It's good that you are prepared you will get a biased reply to WM.
I am sure you will found WM softwares to fulfill all you needs. Here are my lists of currently using program on WM for your requirement.
Opera 9.5, built in MSN Live & remote desktop, pocket VNC, pocket putty, resco explorer (FTP), Magicall (best call blocker), Foxit PDF reader, SoftMaker office.
6.1 would be a better choice for you since 6.5 consumes more resources for eye candies. And WM has a physical limit of 32 concurrent processes so lite rom (I have one and many other chefs make lite rom too) would be better if you need many programs active all the time
if you go the winmo route and considering the x1, i might suggest the x2 then. or the tp2
c_legaspi said:
if you go the winmo route and considering the x1, i might suggest the x2 then. or the tp2
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I guess he wants to keep the cost as low as possible.
orelsi said:
I guess he wants to keep the cost as low as possible.
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indeed. its already thinked over and its x1 or n97 used, which I can get at this point.
But I think I`m leaning towards x1 more atm. Probably gonna buy it at monday when the store will have it.
hopefully it wont be so slow as ppl talks.
I just read that x1 has a problem with the cracks, so Im not so thrilled about it...actually Im not even sure if buying x1 is a good idea :S....
I also recommend you the X1. For WM 6.1 you will find all the software you need and there's even a lot of freeware out there.
What concerns the quality of the hardware I think we have to admit there are some issues with the X1 (which phone has not it's shortcomings) but for me the only thing that I encountered personally is the dissolving of the black painting from the battery cover. And that also moderately. So far I have not seen the famous cracks in the case but maybe I'm just lucky.
All in all I consider the X1 still among the best WM phones on the market. The screen is great, the keyboard very convenient to type, the overall performance is good (WM is not known to be the fastest os out there). A few day's ago my X1 was stolen :-( and I did not hesitate to get a new one (finally I benefit from one of the many assurances I have to pay for every year).
I know it's like always everybody's personal opinion and there will never be a "best phone" on the market. But for me the X1 alsmost perfectly fits my needs. And is far as I see it should also meet yours.
10 months with no cracks here + those cracks are beneath the cover and don't affect the device in any way. People overexaggerate their importance...
icbicb said:
so here are the questions:
1. Symbian or winmob ( consider the software that I need , remote desktop for example, also speed and resources) ?
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On Symbian exist SymRDP, this remote desktop software works extremely well on N97.
X1's keyboard is really, really awesome for the first few months. I really enjoyed typing on the X1 until disaster struck. X1 keyboard is very prone to dust and before you anticipate it, your buttons are registering double keys and they become not responsive.
I'm using Fingerkeyboard full time now and I miss the good old days where I can type a 1000 words article using my X1 keyboard.
Hi guys,
I just yesterday purchased x1 black and it looks and behave pretty awesome.
Bu I already encountered a few problems. I immediately started installing some programs and SPB mobile shell 3.5 and on top of that TouchFlo 3d HD which I dont like, and wanted to delete it. BUt when I go to remove programs It wont delete it, I think because when phone is booting , its already in its memory so it can`t be done that way.
In short how to delete TF3D from my phone?
Or is there some kind of master reset that will erase all the apps I installed ?
Don't even use that ROM? Use another - TF3D shouldn't be in the stock ROM. AT ALL.
In short - install an Xperia ROM without TF3D
I didnt messed with the roms, and I dont intend to just right now. I just installed TF3D .cab and it added itself to today screen.
I really dont want to flash rom just because of this if there is any other solution.
What about hard reset?
Will it erase all my apps and put it back to factory settings?
icbicb said:
I didnt messed with the roms, and I dont intend to just right now. I just installed TF3D .cab and it added itself to today screen.
I really dont want to flash rom just because of this if there is any other solution.
What about hard reset?
Will it erase all my apps and put it back to factory settings?
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Yes .
Thanks. I actually did manage to uninstall tf3d without hard reset, maybe this will help someone with the same problem I had.
http://www.xperiax1.net/forum/x1-problems-issues/702-remove-touchflo-3d.html

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