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New Rom Making Suggestions!!! (What would you like?)

Well, I want to make a new ROM, but this is the part I need help on. I want as many people to put in what they might like in a new ROM. Once I get enough replies, I'm going to check out which ones were the most popular. If all goes well, I'll try to make the ROM as best I can.
Why do I want to do this? Well, occasionally, I'm really bored and I have nothing to do, and plus it's really fun making them.
Just another note, please don't spam or go off topic on this thread. I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
Thanks!

umchriswho said:
Well, I want to make a new ROM, but this is the part I need help on. I want as many people to put in what they might like in a new ROM. Once I get enough replies, I'm going to check out which ones were the most popular. If all goes well, I'll try to make the ROM as best I can.
Why do I want to do this? Well, occasionally, I'm really bored and I have nothing to do, and plus it's really fun making them.
Just another note, please don't spam or go off topic on this thread. I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
Thanks!
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Wow,
Your already thinking about the next release?
Your first rom was just released a few days ago..Man your fast.

ttran001 said:
Wow,
Your already thinking about the next release?
Your first rom was just released a few days ago..Man your fast.
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Well, my ROM was pretty basic.
For this one, I want everyone to have a say, and I want to try to make it different. It's not like it's going to come out soon, but I just want to get the idea of things. So basically, it's undecided right now.

How bout something Totally Different?
Just a thought.
How about a total vista rom. From the splash screens to Today and system Icons -- totally vista orbs and icons. Not a big fan of vista but the interface is really nice. I won't use the word pretty.
Built on WM6.1 with the latest radio rom. Glossy black bars. Even the animated orb at boot up. ????
Just a thought. Bet it would be popular.

yeaa do what zcinc said...and make it almost like a tablet pc if possible..make it as close to the pc experience as possible...i no u can do it..

Yeah, from my experience most people either way as much speed and space as possible ( blank rom like ur 1st ) or EyE Candy (Vista Release perhaps ?

mac anyone?
full mac ui for us mac lovers, and I don't mean iphone-blah.
would be nice to see a mac flavored rom -- =)

One thing i'd like to see and i don't hope is a spanish rom... i'd tried to make it myself and didn't do a great job exactly... i'll try another time, maybe.
This isn't a suggestion, i understand there's no interest in making one, just a loud-voice-thought.

Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011

papamopps said:
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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This looks like something to be included with my next release...lol

papamopps said:
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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Ohh... pretty... Interesting tidbit of information: One of my original cleanROM themes was a vista themed everything. But this is prettier.
I might include it as part of the kitchen I may or may not be releasing this week...

More Ideas
This is something like what I was thinking for the boot end:
***really awesome animated splash screen included in the .zip file .............

also, I have tons of icons and system files for the Vista look, extracted from wisebar themes. let me know if you want them for cooking.

Also, if someone can figure out this whole orb replacing the flag thing, they would be a ****en Genius.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342077

I just downloaded a Kitchen today. Going to try my hand at cooking. I may or may never come up with a rom but I will try. Totally lost at this point but I will learn.

How about a 6.1 that has MMS working

umchriswho said:
I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
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Everyone makes ROMS with lots of stuff pre-installed. I'd like to see a ROM that's as close as possible to the WinMo that came pre-installed on my Wing, except for the following:
Leave out:
Adobe Reader LE
MyFaves app
t-zones wifi finder
Esmertec Java
misc crap I'm forgetting right now
Add:
BatteryStatus
6 MB pagepool
Today theme of Developer's choice
Touch dialer
Touch comm manager
WM6.1 if possible
Oxios mem manager or similar
As well as a package of "highly recommended" cabs that can be installed individually. For example, lots of ROMs have HTC Home 6 tab pre-installed. I hate the profiles tab, so I just use 5 tab.
Just my $.02

I would like to see the option to create a paging file on SD card and the ability to turn EV-DO off and make it STAY off, especially while connected to WiFi (my phone occasionally will use ev-do even when a wifi connection is present). Turning data off in comm manager does no good as it will automatically redial.

reddhanky said:
I would like to see the option to create a paging file on SD card and the ability to turn EV-DO off and make it STAY off, especially while connected to WiFi (my phone occasionally will use ev-do even when a wifi connection is present). Turning data off in comm manager does no good as it will automatically redial.
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1. Paging file?
2. EV-DO? I'm gessing you don't have a herald. hehe -Turn off automatic Mail Push, though, and it should stay off. (Also turn off anything automatic, time and all.)

NotShorty said:
Everyone makes ROMS with lots of stuff pre-installed. I'd like to see a ROM that's as close as possible to the WinMo that came pre-installed on my Wing, except for the following:
Leave out:
Adobe Reader LE
MyFaves app
t-zones wifi finder
Esmertec Java
misc crap I'm forgetting right now
Add:
BatteryStatus
6 MB pagepool
Today theme of Developer's choice
Touch dialer
Touch comm manager
WM6.1 if possible
Oxios mem manager or similar
As well as a package of "highly recommended" cabs that can be installed individually. For example, lots of ROMs have HTC Home 6 tab pre-installed. I hate the profiles tab, so I just use 5 tab.
Just my $.02
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hmm... sounds like my preference in ROMs... I may or may not release something this week that may fix this for you...

Windows 6.1 interface ?

Where i'm find the interface presented for windows mobile 6.1 like http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/06/03/customizing-the-sliding-panel-homescreen.aspx this ??? txs a lot !

ABstar said:
Where i'm find the interface presented for windows mobile 6.1 like http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/06/03/customizing-the-sliding-panel-homescreen.aspx this ??? txs a lot !
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If you read the thing it says
The built in plug-in names are:
1) CClock – The big clock
2) CAppointments - The calendar plugin
3) CHome – The notifications plugin
4) CMyPhotos – The photos plugin
5) CMessage – The message center (this is off by default on all sliding panel built in layouts.
6) CMusic – The music plugin
7) Settings – The settings plug-in
8) Custom Plugins – Users can specify custom plug-ins with static content that can be displayed on the home screen.
Just search and download those plugins and you can get it

Where i'm download ?

ABstar said:
Where i'm download ?
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Your Kaiser is running WM6.1 Professional.
What you see there is WM6.1 Standard (non-touchscreen)

johanromijn said:
Your Kaiser is running WM6.1 Professional.
What you see there is WM6.1 Standard (non-touchscreen)
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He should still be able to run the plugins though . Just obviously no touchscreen support.
@ OP here is a good place to find them

So are there any ROMS that use the new interface?

jimlivingston said:
So are there any ROMS that use the new interface?
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No. As stated above, this interface is for Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard, for non-touchscreen smartphones only. Since you would only see a pretty picture with no touch response, cooks will not bother to include it in their ROMs (not a bad thing).

Ah I see, I read that backward in my head. Damn dyslexia!
That interface would be very nice if it was finger friendly
I have tried throttle launcher and pointui, both of which were lacking. Does anyone know of other UIs?

livefastdiefun87 said:
He should still be able to run the plugins though . Just obviously no touchscreen support.
@ OP here is a good place to find them
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There's a difference between Home plugins and Today plugins.
Frankly, I'm a little disappointed with WM6.1 Pro. WM6.1 Std is the best thing since sliced bread. Totally revitalises the crippled smartphone interface.
What did 6.1 do for Pro?

Yea I agree. 6.1 Pro looks and acts much the same as 6.0. After seeing all the screenshots and videos of 6.1 Standard that my expectations were relatively high for Pro. To make matter worse my brother-in-law just showed off his iPhone 3G today. Its interface is so much smoother and user friendly than what I can get for my Tilt. I guess MS still thinks a stylus is better than a finger; I disagree.
Oh well, I guess we can't have our cake and eat it too!

NotATreoFan said:
No. As stated above, this interface is for Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard, for non-touchscreen smartphones only. Since you would only see a pretty picture with no touch response, cooks will not bother to include it in their ROMs (not a bad thing).
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I think I'd rather have a useful, goodlooking today screen that I use with the hardware buttons than a bunch of plugins that dont really do exactly what you want them to anyways. Dont you think so? I'm starting to get fed up with HTC Home...

reonan said:
I think I'd rather have a useful, goodlooking today screen that I use with the hardware buttons than a bunch of plugins that dont really do exactly what you want them to anyways. Dont you think so? I'm starting to get fed up with HTC Home...
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I already gave up on HTC Home. I haven't even installed it on the last 5+ flashes. I agree with the sentiment in several other threads that Microsoft really screwed-the-pooch on 6.1 Professional with regards to interface upgrades (read: none), but I also wouldn't want my Today screen to be filled up with icons I cannot tap for a response.

NotATreoFan said:
I already gave up on HTC Home. I haven't even installed it on the last 5+ flashes. I agree with the sentiment in several other threads that Microsoft really screwed-the-pooch on 6.1 Professional with regards to interface upgrades (read: none), but I also wouldn't want my Today screen to be filled up with icons I cannot tap for a response.
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What other today screen have you been using? I tried HTC, Winterface, Point UI( both version). I was thinking about the Touch Xperience(?).

bennyj71 said:
What other today screen have you been using? I tried HTC, Winterface, Point UI( both version). I was thinking about the Touch Xperience(?).
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I don't use anything. Just the default WM Home Screen.

RamROM 1.00 --> 1.22WWE + GPS (thaihugo base)

I used thaihugo ROM as base for this. Thanks to thaihugo for providing this.
I added GoogleMaps, YouTubePlay, VicSoft Clear Temp, Adobe Reader LE for Diamond. Replaced current USBTool with modaco ShiftPack.Liberate. This fixes the Registry setting needed to install cabs. The only registry setting you need to do is changing HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CurLang value to your keyboard. You can find those values in plirom 2.00 thread.
I have also placed links to USBTool under Programs\Comm (thaihugo ROM has here) and also under SnapVue Settings (ShiftPack.Liberate does this). Here in SnapVue Settings you will see a link to SoftReset too. This is exactly what Shift.Liberate does currently whenever you liberate using modaco's procedure.
Memory:
Free Storage: 28.58 MB
Free Program: 21.21 MB
Here is the link to download RUU_Signed.nbh
Use CustomRUU.exe that is available in thaihugo and plirom threads.
The next upgrades to this ROM are HTC Voice Recorder, once I figure out how to enable the microphone, .NET 3.5, Screen Capture, and HTC official YouTube Player replacing YouTubePlay. I am also planing to remove original calculator with 1-Calc.
Disclaimer: This is a cooked ROM and is supported by neither Microsoft nor HTC. Neither I nor the ones from who I learned how to cook should be held responsible for any malfunctions or irreversible damage that may cause by flashing this ROM to the device. Use at your own risk. Bottom line, I take no responsibility for the damages that may happen to your device by flashing this ROM.
Thanks
Ram

GPS from Windows Vista
Thanks to everybody i wish to thank every body who help me, and ask you for explain me how can i connect that GPS from Windows Vista.

saiweb said:
I used thaihugo ROM as base for this. Thanks to thaihugo for providing this.
I added GoogleMaps, YouTubePlay, VicSoft Clear Temp, Adobe Reader LE for Diamond. Replaced current USBTool with modaco ShiftPack.Liberate. This fixes the Registry setting needed to install cabs. The only registry setting you need to do is changing HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CurLang value to your keyboard. You can find those values in plirom 2.00 thread.
I have also placed links to USBTool under Programs\Comm (thaihugo ROM has here) and also under SnapVue Settings (ShiftPack.Liberate does this). Here in SnapVue Settings you will see a link to SoftReset too. This is exactly what Shift.Liberate does currently whenever you liberate using modaco's procedure.
Memory:
Free Storage: 28.58 MB
Free Program: 21.21 MB
Here is the link to download RUU_Signed.nbh
Use CustomRUU.exe that is available in thaihugo and plirom threads.
The next upgrades to this ROM are HTC Voice Recorder, once I figure out how to enable the microphone, .NET 3.5, Screen Capture, and HTC official YouTube Player replacing YouTubePlay. I am also planing to remove original calculator with 1-Calc.
Disclaimer: This is a cooked ROM and is supported by neither Microsoft nor HTC. Neither I nor the ones from who I learned how to cook should be held responsible for any malfunctions or irreversible damage that may cause by flashing this ROM to the device. Use at your own risk. Bottom line, I take no responsibility for the damages that may happen to your device by flashing this ROM.
Thanks
Ram
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Hi Ram,
The GoogleMaps version is not the update one in your Rom. Could you put the update one (ver. 2.2.0.19) in your next upgrades?
Thanks.
Sunny

hkesunny said:
Hi Ram,
The GoogleMaps version is not the update one in your Rom. Could you put the update one (ver. 2.2.0.19) in your next upgrades?
Thanks.
Sunny
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Sunny
I will do that. I am working CHT version of the same. In that I will put GoogleMaps 2.2.0.19.
Thanks
Ram

martiare said:
Thanks to everybody i wish to thank every body who help me, and ask you for explain me how can i connect that GPS from Windows Vista.
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Hi Martiare
There are two ways
1. you could use external bluetooth receiver that your vista side could use to connect using BlueTooth or USB, easiest and fastest way of doing it.
2. If you wish to use internal GPS of Shift then, you need to install either thaihugo's ROM, pliROM or RamROM, which can be downloaded from this forum (search is your friend). Once you install them, you have multiple options, but the one I use is using Franson's GPSGate Client for Vista and WinMo. I bought this for $49 and I feel good investment. Install GPSGatePPC on WinMo side, and GPSGate on Vista side. Configure GPSGatePPC to work on ActiveSync. Configure GPSGate to receive signals from ActiveSync. And install Maps software such as AutoRoute or Micosoft Streets, Earthmate etc. on Vista side and thats all.
Thanks
Ram

saiweb said:
I used thaihugo ROM as base for this. Thanks to thaihugo for providing this.
I added GoogleMaps, YouTubePlay, VicSoft Clear Temp, Adobe Reader LE for Diamond. Replaced current USBTool with modaco ShiftPack.Liberate. This fixes the Registry setting needed to install cabs. The only registry setting you need to do is changing HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CurLang value to your keyboard. You can find those values in plirom 2.00 thread.
I have also placed links to USBTool under Programs\Comm (thaihugo ROM has here) and also under SnapVue Settings (ShiftPack.Liberate does this). Here in SnapVue Settings you will see a link to SoftReset too. This is exactly what Shift.Liberate does currently whenever you liberate using modaco's procedure.
Memory:
Free Storage: 28.58 MB
Free Program: 21.21 MB
Here is the link to download RUU_Signed.nbh
Use CustomRUU.exe that is available in thaihugo and plirom threads.
The next upgrades to this ROM are HTC Voice Recorder, once I figure out how to enable the microphone, .NET 3.5, Screen Capture, and HTC official YouTube Player replacing YouTubePlay. I am also planing to remove original calculator with 1-Calc.
Disclaimer: This is a cooked ROM and is supported by neither Microsoft nor HTC. Neither I nor the ones from who I learned how to cook should be held responsible for any malfunctions or irreversible damage that may cause by flashing this ROM to the device. Use at your own risk. Bottom line, I take no responsibility for the damages that may happen to your device by flashing this ROM.
Thanks
Ram
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First of all let me thank you and all other "cookers" for your continuous effort. I've been following the birth and the growth of quite a high number of ROM's, and I still can't understand if it's a good or a bad thing... I mean: surely everyone that flashes a newly cooked ROM acts as a beta-tester for the "chef" and for all other users that don't dare or simply can't flash a new ROM each week. Moreover each new ROM, even if adds some (in)compatibility problem, solves many others (just think about the possibility to use GPS). And this is the good part of the situation.
On the other hand I feel a bit confused. Each new ROM has many good things, but lacks in others, IMO. I know it's a matter of personal taste, but for instance I would really like that PliROM's home could be the standard for each other ROM. And that's just one of the things that I (and each one of us) could point up.
May I suggest to write down a list of the components and let a survey start? If 90 people over 100 should prefer PliROM's interface instead of original Shift one (again: it's just an example), why to continue developping ROMs with other interfaces?
I say this because I'm absolutely unable to cook anything, and I think that many of us can't.
Of course I'll go on flashing new (stable) ROMs, trying to beta-test , at least for a few weeks... than I'll have to go back to work and I wouldn't run the risk anymore to loose data or hardreset

Pure Snapvue
Hi Sai ;
Even though the user interface is really limited , i -personally- prefer using snapvue ...
So ... is there a way for you to
-either let me know how to disable the top bar with the start menu on your liberated rom
or
-cook a rom only cab-install and gps enabled , so that i can go on my own way...
My very best regards
Safak

saiweb said:
Sunny
I will do that. I am working CHT version of the same. In that I will put GoogleMaps 2.2.0.19.
Thanks
Ram
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Hi Ram,
Thanks a lot! If you can cook the 2nd CHT version with the updated GoogleMaps will be perfect! One more request, can you use pli6128's plirom v2.00 WWE 1.22.405.0 96dpi to cook the CHT 2nd version? Because I tried and feel it's user friendly and the key buttons for both contacts and programscan be address. Also, I found it stable too.
Thanks.
Sunny

saiweb said:
Hi Martiare
There are two ways
1. you could use external bluetooth receiver that your vista side could use to connect using BlueTooth or USB, easiest and fastest way of doing it.
2. If you wish to use internal GPS of Shift then, you need to install either thaihugo's ROM, pliROM or RamROM, which can be downloaded from this forum (search is your friend). Once you install them, you have multiple options, but the one I use is using Franson's GPSGate Client for Vista and WinMo. I bought this for $49 and I feel good investment. Install GPSGatePPC on WinMo side, and GPSGate on Vista side. Configure GPSGatePPC to work on ActiveSync. Configure GPSGate to receive signals from ActiveSync. And install Maps software such as AutoRoute or Micosoft Streets, Earthmate etc. on Vista side and thats all.
Thanks
Ram
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Ram / Martiare,
Maybe you can use this one - "Track Me"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667
Because it's FREE! I installed it at the WinMo side and at the Vista side I can use Google Earth see my track realtime!
Sunny

hkesunny said:
Ram / Martiare,
Maybe you can use this one - "Track Me"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667
Because it's FREE! I installed it at the WinMo side and at the Vista side I can use Google Earth see my track realtime!
Sunny
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Hi Sunny
Cool.
Thanks
Ram

Hileotech said:
First of all let me thank you and all other "cookers" for your continuous effort. I've been following the birth and the growth of quite a high number of ROM's, and I still can't understand if it's a good or a bad thing... I mean: surely everyone that flashes a newly cooked ROM acts as a beta-tester for the "chef" and for all other users that don't dare or simply can't flash a new ROM each week. Moreover each new ROM, even if adds some (in)compatibility problem, solves many others (just think about the possibility to use GPS). And this is the good part of the situation.
On the other hand I feel a bit confused. Each new ROM has many good things, but lacks in others, IMO. I know it's a matter of personal taste, but for instance I would really like that PliROM's home could be the standard for each other ROM. And that's just one of the things that I (and each one of us) could point up.
May I suggest to write down a list of the components and let a survey start? If 90 people over 100 should prefer PliROM's interface instead of original Shift one (again: it's just an example), why to continue developping ROMs with other interfaces?
I say this because I'm absolutely unable to cook anything, and I think that many of us can't.
Of course I'll go on flashing new (stable) ROMs, trying to beta-test , at least for a few weeks... than I'll have to go back to work and I wouldn't run the risk anymore to loose data or hardreset
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Hi
Sure I will use pliROM as base for the new version, or may be I will have an option that would install HTC Home like pliROM does or SnapVue like thaihugo does. I think I would go with this optional one.
Thanks
Ram

For free GPS Tracking in Google Earth, and Google Maps mobile, checkout http://www.reperion.com and choose basic, free download.
You don't need to boot vista to see your realtime tracks, all you have to do is import your Reperion KML network link to Google Mobile Maps !
It will give you much much more than just tracking... check it out
http://www.reperion.com/newclient for the software
http://geocool.reperion.com/web to JOIN for an account.

Thanks Ram and cookers!
Installed and working. Just one query about the GPS side though.....
I'm using a UK version of the shift for starters that is only a few months old. I've fllashed the Rom as above and also installed the GPSGate software on both sides. That all seems to be working fine and the WinMob side has found the GPS Module on COM4 and is receiving data but no location. After having read the other threads I appreciate you have to stand in the middle of a field for i to pick up the satellites. Unfortunately I have tried this and it still isnt picking them up. Is it possible that HTC has now stopped installing the GPS Antennas in recent Shifts (no, I haven't opened it up to look)?
Any other ideas?

saiweb said:
Hi
Sure I will use pliROM as base for the new version, or may be I will have an option that would install HTC Home like pliROM does or SnapVue like thaihugo does. I think I would go with this optional one.
Thanks
Ram
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This sound great to me!!! Thanks a lot

meanbiker said:
Thanks Ram and cookers!
Installed and working. Just one query about the GPS side though.....
I'm using a UK version of the shift for starters that is only a few months old. I've fllashed the Rom as above and also installed the GPSGate software on both sides. That all seems to be working fine and the WinMob side has found the GPS Module on COM4 and is receiving data but no location. After having read the other threads I appreciate you have to stand in the middle of a field for i to pick up the satellites. Unfortunately I have tried this and it still isnt picking them up. Is it possible that HTC has now stopped installing the GPS Antennas in recent Shifts (no, I haven't opened it up to look)?
Any other ideas?
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Honestly I don't know if they might have removed it. But to be sure, look if you have any data comming in. Do you have any sattelites inview when using HTC GPS util? Look at the sattelite tab.

meanbiker said:
Thanks Ram and cookers!
Installed and working. Just one query about the GPS side though.....
I'm using a UK version of the shift for starters that is only a few months old. I've fllashed the Rom as above and also installed the GPSGate software on both sides. That all seems to be working fine and the WinMob side has found the GPS Module on COM4 and is receiving data but no location. After having read the other threads I appreciate you have to stand in the middle of a field for i to pick up the satellites. Unfortunately I have tried this and it still isnt picking them up. Is it possible that HTC has now stopped installing the GPS Antennas in recent Shifts (no, I haven't opened it up to look)?
Any other ideas?
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in HCTC GPS Tool (Settings tab) press Open Button, in the lower part you will see some scrolled text, when you run GPS software for the first time you have to wait for 15-30 minute to recieve the signals, then go to Satellite tab the no. of satellite used must be 3 or more to get your location, thise what I did, hope it is the correct way.

thaihugo said:
Honestly I don't know if they might have removed it. But to be sure, look if you have any data comming in. Do you have any sattelites inview when using HTC GPS util? Look at the sattelite tab.
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I agree with you completely. I don't think they would have removed it. It may be some issues with the position or something related to GPSGate configuration. I also come into issues where it would take good 15 to 20 minuts to lock my Shift for the first time especially with overcast skies, evenings and inside the building. I may be wrong too, HTC might have removed the GPS altogether in the newer systems, but that would be a drastic step for HTC. If they do so, I would suggest buying RAON Everun and tether it with a Kaiser or Hermes would be cheaper. You would have a GPS receiver on your WinMo, and have bluetooth, SD, Wifi handy and you could connect your Everun to that and it fits in the pocket, eventhough the screen is nearly 5" as opposed to 7". But that is cheaper alternative and runs on more manageable XP. And installing GPSGate on WinMo and XP gives me to have the GPS on bigger screen.
Thanks
Ram

Got the GPS Tool running again. It's hovering on Sat 32 and 14 with the odd scan of no. 1 on its own. Going to leave it on the windowledge overnight as the field isn't really an option!
I'm used to using a Garmin Zumo on the motorbike that takes seconds to find the sats and TomTom on my Hermes in the car and also it's own in-built Toyota Effort. None takes this long to find satellites.
But it is fun, isn't it!!!

meanbiker said:
Got the GPS Tool running again. It's hovering on Sat 32 and 14 with the odd scan of no. 1 on its own. Going to leave it on the windowledge overnight as the field isn't really an option!
I'm used to using a Garmin Zumo on the motorbike that takes seconds to find the sats and TomTom on my Hermes in the car and also it's own in-built Toyota Effort. None takes this long to find satellites.
But it is fun, isn't it!!!
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Yep, it is kind of slow, once you get the location fixed, and it uses 2 satellites, the things move pretty fast. I have quite a good number of GPS devices, and all of them are pretty fast when compared to this.
Thanks
Ram

So the GPS Tool locked up the WinMob side , it mustn't have liked being left on all night! Pulled the battery and reset. Hey Presto the sky is full of satellites tonight and all is working fine!!!! It takes ages to take its initial reading of where everything is, has a real good think about it and then decides to work.
Now looking forward to any future incarnations.
Many thanks to all

[Q]What Do You Want In A ROM?

I'm new to this rom cooking business here so i wanted to see what everyone wanted out of a ROM. I've already made something with the help of all folks on XDA but i'm not sure if this is something i want to release because its not really any different than the roms that are already out there except its probably slower
The idea of this is for everyone to tell me what they want in a rom and maybe some advice in cooking ROMs would be nice.
My Ideas:
1. A lite ROM
2. an SPB ROM (of course you would have bought SPB mobile shell to use this)
3. A touch flo 3d rom (Just because i love itje and chalid's ROMS)

1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
3. ALL included games
4. perhaps a new panel or two
5. instant messaging
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
Just things that I would like... not sure how feasible some are, but definitely a wish list.

1. A TF3D version that is capable of handling AVRCP and A2DP correctly!!! (like daran clarkes)
2. Voip

basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)

Agreed upon the TF3D..that is deffinatly a must! IN PORTRAIT AND LANDSCAPE
ALL MS Office Apps
All Stock Apps + Additional ones from diff roms
A few new panels
Full QWERTY Keyboard
(Xperice is good, but i dont like the blackstone layout for dialer nor password screen) I like the metal brush look like the stock one had

gregnm369 said:
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
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Are you talking about One Note? I can definitely add that back. The one i already cooked i removed that too.
3. ALL included games
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By All included games do you mean Sudoku and Bejwelled? I believe they are both shareware... Would anyone be interested in having emulators in there although they don't quite work without the WVGA fix?
4. perhaps a new panel or two
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I had originally removed panles but maybe that is another ROM i will create. One with Panels, One without plus TFL3D and one with Both.
5. instant messaging
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Any objections to Beejive? and fring?
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
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These two i have no idea how to fix but i do have a lot of free time

achmed20 said:
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.

Bxsteez said:
Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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yep! thats the one im talking about. i read that it has propper a2dp support while the manilla doesnt have. havnt had a chance to test it yet since my car radio got stolen last month
oh and plz ... if there has to be TF3D on teh ROm, DONT mod it with colors. turning the tf3d into blue is easy, but making it black aggain is kinda impossible cause i havnt found the darn skin/cab for it yet.

Hmmm well thats interesting. I was going to make it similar to itje's touch of blue but i was going to make it red but you have a valid point. I'll release those as cabs if i can find a free cab creation program.

I agree with the OP on his first suggestion;
A lite rom for each WM build, with updated drivers/tweaks and a selection of cabs for commonly used applications so we can pick and choose what we install.
I don't much like TF3D or Panels, I prefer SPB applications (low resource use and better customisation, IMHO).
Of course "tweaks and drivers" can sometimes be a matter of opinion, but as far as ROMs go I'd like any available choice to be mine. So if there's a choice between two or more Ati driver dlls, for example, to provide the ddls for download to be installed at the user's discretion.
Even an untweaked lite ROM for each WM build would be good, so we can experiment with tweaks and configuration as we see fit.

Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.

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Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Panels are cool IMHO

I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.

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I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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Agreed 100%.

I hope you make a basic tweaked rom where you can add or remove your cabs. so you can easily update de progs by uninstall the old cab and replace it with the new version.

I'm going to start working on a Lite ROM tonight when i get home. I'm going to try a performance tweak that i've done before..... Hopefully i don't brick my phone

As many of those who responded:
- TF3D
- All stock apps* (Yes, i want OneNote, i use it at work and it is great)
- All stock games*
- to be stable enough, to use for few months without worrying about flashing again..
*about stock apps and games, it is ok also to remove them from the ROM but at least provide them as cabs.

basically a FAST rom, these little devices are nice, but the small lags are quite annoying when you are in a hurry (like when you slide the keyboard to write someone s name to cal them but then you slide it back because you want to phone without the keyboard extended)

I'd agree on most points!
A great idea to start cooking
I think it would be pretty neat if you could cook a rom with all the stuff (TF3D, panels manager and so on) but make the apps uninstallable, if possible and please please please leave the tf3d in black I just love the whole stuff on may phone in black!
p.s.: did you see the ripped max 4G contacts app? its much better than the htc and windows one. I installed it today and its really smooth!
Thanks in advance!

You have a problem with the speed of the screen rotation? I haven't seen this on any of the roms i've used with the exception of my current one lol.. but i think i screwed something up.

Windows Live and M2D

Is it possible to make a M2D tab for Windows Live? I know Windows live has a today screen plugin, so at least some info must be available from API's. I'm going to go look into djkoa's M2D info to try and figure it out myself but I was hoping that someone has already started or maybe even finished such a project.

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Is it possible to make a M2D tab for Windows Live? I know Windows live has a today screen plugin, so at least some info must be available from API's. I'm going to go look into djkoa's M2D info to try and figure it out myself but I was hoping that someone has already started or maybe even finished such a project.
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Quick answer no. M2D is the way it is the only modification has been with the operater tab.
"please in future post in correct sub forum as this has to do with software also a search would have given you the answer as this question has been asked over & over"

I think is pretty much possible. But to be honest wont worth the try at least from M2D, since we are running for the 6.5 style.
Besides it becomes too much crowd with so many tabs :-s ...and to run msnlive on back..takes too much power from it (energy and processor).
I think we need to wait first for better and lighter msnlive (I'd try meboo in android rom...and worked very fast and easy).
Koa

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I think is pretty much possible. But to be honest wont worth the try at least from M2D, since we are running for the 6.5 style.
Besides it becomes too much crowd with so many tabs :-s ...and to run msnlive on back..takes too much power from it (energy and processor).
I think we need to wait first for better and lighter msnlive (I'd try meboo in android rom...and worked very fast and easy).
Koa
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Happen to have a different opinion since, the M2D extras that have been incororated into the operater tab, basically just use the reg to point to a location link, greatbals and sergious? "not sure i spelt it correct", intergrating an app into M2D is a totally different ball game you have to be able to modify the app & M2D so as you can communicate with the app and visa versa, to which is why the plug ins with WM6.1 standard & also WM6.5 are made by M$.