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Well, I want to make a new ROM, but this is the part I need help on. I want as many people to put in what they might like in a new ROM. Once I get enough replies, I'm going to check out which ones were the most popular. If all goes well, I'll try to make the ROM as best I can.
Why do I want to do this? Well, occasionally, I'm really bored and I have nothing to do, and plus it's really fun making them.
Just another note, please don't spam or go off topic on this thread. I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
Thanks!
umchriswho said:
Well, I want to make a new ROM, but this is the part I need help on. I want as many people to put in what they might like in a new ROM. Once I get enough replies, I'm going to check out which ones were the most popular. If all goes well, I'll try to make the ROM as best I can.
Why do I want to do this? Well, occasionally, I'm really bored and I have nothing to do, and plus it's really fun making them.
Just another note, please don't spam or go off topic on this thread. I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
Thanks!
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Wow,
Your already thinking about the next release?
Your first rom was just released a few days ago..Man your fast.
ttran001 said:
Wow,
Your already thinking about the next release?
Your first rom was just released a few days ago..Man your fast.
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Well, my ROM was pretty basic.
For this one, I want everyone to have a say, and I want to try to make it different. It's not like it's going to come out soon, but I just want to get the idea of things. So basically, it's undecided right now.
How bout something Totally Different?
Just a thought.
How about a total vista rom. From the splash screens to Today and system Icons -- totally vista orbs and icons. Not a big fan of vista but the interface is really nice. I won't use the word pretty.
Built on WM6.1 with the latest radio rom. Glossy black bars. Even the animated orb at boot up. ????
Just a thought. Bet it would be popular.
yeaa do what zcinc said...and make it almost like a tablet pc if possible..make it as close to the pc experience as possible...i no u can do it..
Yeah, from my experience most people either way as much speed and space as possible ( blank rom like ur 1st ) or EyE Candy (Vista Release perhaps ?
mac anyone?
full mac ui for us mac lovers, and I don't mean iphone-blah.
would be nice to see a mac flavored rom -- =)
One thing i'd like to see and i don't hope is a spanish rom... i'd tried to make it myself and didn't do a great job exactly... i'll try another time, maybe.
This isn't a suggestion, i understand there's no interest in making one, just a loud-voice-thought.
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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This looks like something to be included with my next release...lol
papamopps said:
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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Ohh... pretty... Interesting tidbit of information: One of my original cleanROM themes was a vista themed everything. But this is prettier.
I might include it as part of the kitchen I may or may not be releasing this week...
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This is something like what I was thinking for the boot end:
***really awesome animated splash screen included in the .zip file .............
also, I have tons of icons and system files for the Vista look, extracted from wisebar themes. let me know if you want them for cooking.
Also, if someone can figure out this whole orb replacing the flag thing, they would be a ****en Genius.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342077
I just downloaded a Kitchen today. Going to try my hand at cooking. I may or may never come up with a rom but I will try. Totally lost at this point but I will learn.
How about a 6.1 that has MMS working
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Everyone makes ROMS with lots of stuff pre-installed. I'd like to see a ROM that's as close as possible to the WinMo that came pre-installed on my Wing, except for the following:
Leave out:
Adobe Reader LE
MyFaves app
t-zones wifi finder
Esmertec Java
misc crap I'm forgetting right now
Add:
BatteryStatus
6 MB pagepool
Today theme of Developer's choice
Touch dialer
Touch comm manager
WM6.1 if possible
Oxios mem manager or similar
As well as a package of "highly recommended" cabs that can be installed individually. For example, lots of ROMs have HTC Home 6 tab pre-installed. I hate the profiles tab, so I just use 5 tab.
Just my $.02
I would like to see the option to create a paging file on SD card and the ability to turn EV-DO off and make it STAY off, especially while connected to WiFi (my phone occasionally will use ev-do even when a wifi connection is present). Turning data off in comm manager does no good as it will automatically redial.
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I would like to see the option to create a paging file on SD card and the ability to turn EV-DO off and make it STAY off, especially while connected to WiFi (my phone occasionally will use ev-do even when a wifi connection is present). Turning data off in comm manager does no good as it will automatically redial.
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1. Paging file?
2. EV-DO? I'm gessing you don't have a herald. hehe -Turn off automatic Mail Push, though, and it should stay off. (Also turn off anything automatic, time and all.)
NotShorty said:
Everyone makes ROMS with lots of stuff pre-installed. I'd like to see a ROM that's as close as possible to the WinMo that came pre-installed on my Wing, except for the following:
Leave out:
Adobe Reader LE
MyFaves app
t-zones wifi finder
Esmertec Java
misc crap I'm forgetting right now
Add:
BatteryStatus
6 MB pagepool
Today theme of Developer's choice
Touch dialer
Touch comm manager
WM6.1 if possible
Oxios mem manager or similar
As well as a package of "highly recommended" cabs that can be installed individually. For example, lots of ROMs have HTC Home 6 tab pre-installed. I hate the profiles tab, so I just use 5 tab.
Just my $.02
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hmm... sounds like my preference in ROMs... I may or may not release something this week that may fix this for you...
Where i'm find the interface presented for windows mobile 6.1 like http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/06/03/customizing-the-sliding-panel-homescreen.aspx this ??? txs a lot !
ABstar said:
Where i'm find the interface presented for windows mobile 6.1 like http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/06/03/customizing-the-sliding-panel-homescreen.aspx this ??? txs a lot !
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If you read the thing it says
The built in plug-in names are:
1) CClock – The big clock
2) CAppointments - The calendar plugin
3) CHome – The notifications plugin
4) CMyPhotos – The photos plugin
5) CMessage – The message center (this is off by default on all sliding panel built in layouts.
6) CMusic – The music plugin
7) Settings – The settings plug-in
8) Custom Plugins – Users can specify custom plug-ins with static content that can be displayed on the home screen.
Just search and download those plugins and you can get it
Where i'm download ?
ABstar said:
Where i'm download ?
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Your Kaiser is running WM6.1 Professional.
What you see there is WM6.1 Standard (non-touchscreen)
johanromijn said:
Your Kaiser is running WM6.1 Professional.
What you see there is WM6.1 Standard (non-touchscreen)
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He should still be able to run the plugins though . Just obviously no touchscreen support.
@ OP here is a good place to find them
So are there any ROMS that use the new interface?
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So are there any ROMS that use the new interface?
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No. As stated above, this interface is for Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard, for non-touchscreen smartphones only. Since you would only see a pretty picture with no touch response, cooks will not bother to include it in their ROMs (not a bad thing).
Ah I see, I read that backward in my head. Damn dyslexia!
That interface would be very nice if it was finger friendly
I have tried throttle launcher and pointui, both of which were lacking. Does anyone know of other UIs?
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He should still be able to run the plugins though . Just obviously no touchscreen support.
@ OP here is a good place to find them
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There's a difference between Home plugins and Today plugins.
Frankly, I'm a little disappointed with WM6.1 Pro. WM6.1 Std is the best thing since sliced bread. Totally revitalises the crippled smartphone interface.
What did 6.1 do for Pro?
Yea I agree. 6.1 Pro looks and acts much the same as 6.0. After seeing all the screenshots and videos of 6.1 Standard that my expectations were relatively high for Pro. To make matter worse my brother-in-law just showed off his iPhone 3G today. Its interface is so much smoother and user friendly than what I can get for my Tilt. I guess MS still thinks a stylus is better than a finger; I disagree.
Oh well, I guess we can't have our cake and eat it too!
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No. As stated above, this interface is for Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard, for non-touchscreen smartphones only. Since you would only see a pretty picture with no touch response, cooks will not bother to include it in their ROMs (not a bad thing).
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I think I'd rather have a useful, goodlooking today screen that I use with the hardware buttons than a bunch of plugins that dont really do exactly what you want them to anyways. Dont you think so? I'm starting to get fed up with HTC Home...
reonan said:
I think I'd rather have a useful, goodlooking today screen that I use with the hardware buttons than a bunch of plugins that dont really do exactly what you want them to anyways. Dont you think so? I'm starting to get fed up with HTC Home...
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I already gave up on HTC Home. I haven't even installed it on the last 5+ flashes. I agree with the sentiment in several other threads that Microsoft really screwed-the-pooch on 6.1 Professional with regards to interface upgrades (read: none), but I also wouldn't want my Today screen to be filled up with icons I cannot tap for a response.
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I already gave up on HTC Home. I haven't even installed it on the last 5+ flashes. I agree with the sentiment in several other threads that Microsoft really screwed-the-pooch on 6.1 Professional with regards to interface upgrades (read: none), but I also wouldn't want my Today screen to be filled up with icons I cannot tap for a response.
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What other today screen have you been using? I tried HTC, Winterface, Point UI( both version). I was thinking about the Touch Xperience(?).
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What other today screen have you been using? I tried HTC, Winterface, Point UI( both version). I was thinking about the Touch Xperience(?).
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I don't use anything. Just the default WM Home Screen.
Ok so this is actually my first time posting in a long time. i do regularly flash the great roms on this site and use the cabs that are presented here. wonderful work guys.
ok so my question is, is it possible for someone to write some software for some widgets like the ones on the new Samsung I900? I know that it runs off WM 6.1 Pro. But is the today screen widget system a flash program? or built in somehow? it would be so cool to have something like that on the today screen of my 6.0 kaiser. ive seen so many different UIs its hard to name them all. they are all pretty cool in their own ways, but if someone made this as a cab that would be awsome. i know someone will be dumping the I900 rom sometime soon. hopefully!!!!
thanks,
vince
i dont get it, so nobody thinks this is possible? any takers....bueller...bueller...
Two suggestions...
Link to what you're asking about so someone can possibly make comparisons.
Don't be annoying/insulting.
Links to view widgets on OMNIA i900
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i8NfY_HXas
riiight... i wasnt trying to be annoying or insulting. i figured a quick search on youtube wuold have informed anyone about the phone in question. seems simple enough to me.
well. the Omnia I900 is a new phone that is being put out by Samsung. If you watch the video posted above youll see the widgets that i am talking about. they seem to be flash based. sort of like the ones in vista. i wonder about how much memory they take up. the phone has some other cool things as well like the screen rotate transitions. i love the one from this device. hope some programmers here can chime in on this one.
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riiight... i wasnt trying to be annoying or insulting. i figured a quick search on youtube wuold have informed anyone about the phone in question. seems simple enough to me.
well. the Omnia I900 is a new phone that is being put out by Samsung. If you watch the video posted above youll see the widgets that i am talking about. they seem to be flash based. sort of like the ones in vista. i wonder about how much memory they take up. the phone has some other cool things as well like the screen rotate transitions. i love the one from this device. hope some programmers here can chime in on this one.
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Apart from the dragging and dropping of widget from the sidebar, everything else is able to be reproduced on wm6 using various methods. rlToday and MobileShell are starting points. The i900 is not that great of a phone.
I figured out the Widgets app is called TouchWiz. i was wondering if anyone has been able to make a cab out of this? i would probably use it if it were available. ive tried a lot of shells, launchers, plugins, they are all cool but none seem to be the end all OS-replacement. by that i mean that they cant do everything yet. some will do some things good and others do other things good, but none do everything good! i know its a lot to ask for from just a shell, but if the next iphone (not 3g version) is any good with a 3rd party following thats growing, i might jump on. its gonna take some great plugs and an awsome os update to keep me on the windows mobile wagon.
i really wish they would start to try and move away from teh stylus usage on their future OS versions. like the Omnia. this would make alot of people happier i think.
snachez said:
The i900 is not that great of a phone.
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really, why?
badaas said:
really, why?
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-Price - Currently over $1,100 in Australia vs. TyTnII free on most caps. Ouch.
- Poor finger menu navigation. Like most WM6 devices, the underlying OS is designed for stylus use, not thumbs. Comes with a stylus but no slot to put it in the phone.
- No physical keyboard, and dodgy software keyboard which cover 3/4 of the screen making it impossible to see what your typing underneath.
- Haptic touch is cool, but the glossy body is really bad (good?) at collecting fingerprint smudges. Carrying a cloth all day is pretty lame too.
- Battery life is ok, except when using GPS or 3G/HSDPA- reports of going from 100% to fully flat in under 40 mins while using satnav & about 3 hrs talk time on 3G. Cant personally verify this because I only played in-store for about half an hour - google around though..
- Can't use it as a bluetooth HSDPA modem for laptop/PC. Even my 5 yr old nokia can do this..
- Annoying automatic screen orientation, way too sensitive when you moving your arm around and the screen starts freaking out and spinning.
- Reports of random shut downs. Cnet reviewer had 2 in 3 days & pressing the Power On button does not help - have to physically remove and re-insert the battery to reset it.
- Useless "widgets" - Stock ROM does not include Calendar, Messaging or mainstream apps. Like the nazi-esque licensing for the iphone app store, you're not allowed to add / develop non-Samsung-approved apps. So for the time being you have a fancy looking but useless desktop. Standard WM6 "today" screen & various plugins is much much more usable.
Bottom line is its fashion over function. Some will love it, but there's too much iPhone mentality going on to even consider it for folks like me (I like to tweak and fiddle with everything to make a system that suits me perfectly - way better phones already out that can do this easier (TyTnII, imho) )
I do like the camera though, and the weird not-quite-VGA 240x400 resolution.
I agree. I am not interested in flashing a new ROM but would rather customize a few features usings cabs and so forth.
There are some widgets that I would like to use myself. This is very similar to the Vista sidebar that I have become familiar with and appreciate now.
Hi,
i found the related widgets, on rapidshare or megauload.it works fine
on a Qvga pda, but on mine (I780) i have resolution problems
Bye
Herc.
yeah i found a thread in the general-hacking and development section where someone has already made a cab for the widgets. after installing you have to reset your device for them to appear in the today plugins selection. the widgets are really cool but not being able to edit the apps they control at the moment kinda sucks. some of them dont do anything because they are supposed to be connected to programs in the Omnia I900
My wife got me a diamond for christmas, it replaced an original Touch (vogue). I wonder if I could bother the experts with a few questions..
1. Other than keyboard and memory expansion is there any real benefit to go with a touch pro? I had 2gb expansion on my old touch and never exceeded it.
2. My carrier is sprint, model is DIAM500, ROM 1.09.651.5 Which if any Custom ROM upgrade would y'all recomend,
3. Major complaint: I listen to a lot of audio books. When listening and wearing headphones OR using aux input on sterio, it auto answers even though I have auto answer turned off in phone settings... any ideas.
4. I've installed a new theme, only complaint is home screen limited plug-ins. Does HTC have a TF3D API to expand or is that limited?
5. I have advanced config installed, gyro 2 installed, TFT3d config, and sbp phone suite... any other "essentials" anyone can recomend?
I have limited WM and CE development experience (Ford Sync and WM5 basic apps). Any dev tools a "must have" for development or theme development for this phone?
I have tried to find some of the above answers but have not had much luck, perhaps because of my limited knowledge. Any assistance would be most appreciated.
1 think only the touch pro support the tv out cable
and for development then depend on what you wish to develop
if you wish to develop apps you will need
visual studio if you want to make .net apps and visual studio and wm6 std if you wish
to develop c++ win32 apps
if you just want to make skins ms paint is likely to be enough
2. My carrier is sprint, model is DIAM500, ROM 1.09.651.5 Which if any Custom ROM upgrade would y'all recomend,
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Honnestly, it all depends of your needs. Some like to go more all out where as others like to have faster roms in terms of response. So it's really what you want to have.
Also there are different rom versions which do extra stuff. Depends what you want to do.
Make sure you read the HOW TO's section in the ROM Development section.
4. I've installed a new theme, only complaint is home screen limited plug-ins. Does HTC have a TF3D API to expand or is that limited?
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By plug-ins do you mean the idea to add "tabs" to TFL3D?
5. I have advanced config installed, gyro 2 installed, TFT3d config, and sbp phone suite... any other "essentials" anyone can recomend?
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Make sure you get yourself a GPS software hahaha
You may want to look at the whole debate behind SensorLock, S2U2 and AutoKeysDisabler (not quite sure of the exact name). SensorLock is what I use and is pretty good for what it does.
I have limited WM and CE development experience (Ford Sync and WM5 basic apps). Any dev tools a "must have" for development or theme development for this phone?
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If you want to make applications for windows mobile, like Rudegar said you will need Visual Studio.
If you wish only to make tweaks and package them in cabs for other uses to use, consider WinCE Cab Manager.
Enjoy your Diamond
Thanks for the responses guys! Most appreciated.
D0MZE said:
Honnestly, it all depends of your needs. Some like to go more all out where as others like to have faster roms in terms of response. So it's really what you want to have.
Also there are different rom versions which do extra stuff. Depends what you want to do.
Make sure you read the HOW TO's section in the ROM Development section.
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Will do. Are most ROM's carrier specific (or will I find out in the how to's? )
By plug-ins do you mean the idea to add "tabs" to TFL3D?
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No, not tabls, but the home screen... on mine I only have a clock, call history, and calendar available. I'm used to the old home screen where I could enable which plug-ins to display (e.g. SPB phone suite today plug in). Don't get me wrong, I can adjust just fine if not available...
Make sure you get yourself a GPS software hahaha
You may want to look at the whole debate behind SensorLock, S2U2 and AutoKeysDisabler (not quite sure of the exact name). SensorLock is what I use and is pretty good for what it does.
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Will definately look at those. I was hoping there was something beyond the sprint navigation stuff...
If you want to make applications for windows mobile, like Rudegar said you will need Visual Studio.
If you wish only to make tweaks and package them in cabs for other uses to use, consider WinCE Cab Manager.
Enjoy your Diamond
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Rudegar & DOMZE...
Yup, got VS 2008 enterprise + WM6 sdk and emulators. Will look into WinCE cab manager. Is HTC going to release an SDK for the TF3D?
jhinze said:
My wife got me a diamond for christmas, it replaced an original Touch (vogue). I wonder if I could bother the experts with a few questions..
1. Other than keyboard and memory expansion is there any real benefit to go with a touch pro? I had 2gb expansion on my old touch and never exceeded it.
2. My carrier is sprint, model is DIAM500, ROM 1.09.651.5 Which if any Custom ROM upgrade would y'all recomend,
3. Major complaint: I listen to a lot of audio books. When listening and wearing headphones OR using aux input on sterio, it auto answers even though I have auto answer turned off in phone settings... any ideas.
4. I've installed a new theme, only complaint is home screen limited plug-ins. Does HTC have a TF3D API to expand or is that limited?
5. I have advanced config installed, gyro 2 installed, TFT3d config, and sbp phone suite... any other "essentials" anyone can recomend?
I have limited WM and CE development experience (Ford Sync and WM5 basic apps). Any dev tools a "must have" for development or theme development for this phone?
I have tried to find some of the above answers but have not had much luck, perhaps because of my limited knowledge. Any assistance would be most appreciated.
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1. This answer depends on the user. For those who like texting with one hand and feel that 4gb of internal storage is more than adequate, like myself, then the soft-keyboard only device is fine.
2. As far as custom roms go, the second thing you should look at is getting hardspl on your phone; the first being the CDMA section of this board.
3. an app? an ipod?
4. im sorry that's beyond my limited realm of knowledge. TF3D seems fairly closed to that stuff.
5. phm registry editor
Umm yeah, so... hi.
I am interested if this is impossible task as i havent noticed any 6.1 rom having it?
Hi! Yes, it is possible and it's been done on other devices. I suppose there really isn't a lot of interest in it for the HD, otherwise someone would have made it. Perhaps this may be a good excuse to learn how to cook your own ROM and share it with other like-minded people.
Best of luck!
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Best of luck!
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Luck has nothing to do with it. While a complete lack of information does. Not that i wouldnt be prepared to try but i have no clue how to extract files from roms, even less how to change registry hives or how to blend everything into something you can burn. Well if you can point me to some informations about it i am willing to start; the first question that arises is how to extract files from rom...
Root... IIRC there was a ROM floating about for Blackstone that combined Manila 2.5 and WM6.1 - I had a quick search but didn't get any results but I think it was possibly Miri who did this and I do remember the results were quite successful (ran surprisingly well).
Scout around and post your results here if you find anything - I might also try such a ROM... I've tried almost every combination of 6.5 and Latest Manila builds and while I enjoy them to some degree they're really not entirely user friendly...
Maybe I'm just particular, but even slightly jerky graphics and delayed load times bug the heck outta me...
In typical fashion, the XDA search failed to yield the right results... via google I got the following (presumably what you wanted?):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547278
Windza said:
In typical fashion, the XDA search failed to yield the right results... via google I got the following (presumably what you wanted?):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547278
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Oh, great and bad... miri has done it, as i suspected it works fast and it is discontinued... well i'll flash it today, i am really interested.
One more thing that i think could be done, i dont know what is with menues at the bottom of the screen (start etc.) that 6.5 has, i believe this is a add on aplication that tracks the content menu on windows. I believe that this could also be ported to WM6.1...
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One more thing that i think could be done, i dont know what is with menues at the bottom of the screen (start etc.) that 6.5 has, i believe this is a add on aplication that tracks the content menu on windows. I believe that this could also be ported to WM6.1...
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Do you mean where the Start button is at the bottom of the screen? If so, that is part of wm6.5.x and from what I've read, I very much doubt it can be ported to wm6.1
edit: Of course you meant the Start button - you even said so (just didn't read it clearly enough )