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Cool ways to use the GPS in the Kaiser

There are two apps that I have used that I must say make the GPS built into the Kaiser along with its data connectivity pretty cool. Of course, the GPS is a great tool for mapping software such as TomTom, iGuidance, Google Maps, MS Live Search, and others... but the possibilities of GPS in a connected device like the Kaiser can lead to many other great things. Two that I have found useful are Mobile Justice and 3d Tracking. Here is a quick description of what they are.
First, I have installed Mobile Justice which alerts you when a SIM card is changed and will send a text message to a number of your choosing when it is changed... for example it was stolen and a card was sent in. It can also send the current GPS location. In addition, you can send the device a text message with a keyword and request at any time, the current GPS location. You can also put a message on the device screen. I know people often cook this application into ROMs. I hope that someone does this for a future Kaiser kitchen. I learned about the new GPS features here: http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/mobile_justice_sms_your_phone.html
The other app that I have used that is kind of nifty is 3d tracking. It updates your GPS location in near real time to a website that you can use a PC to monitor. The mapping is done using Google maps. Very cool way to keep track of valuables such as your teenagers. ;-)
http://free.3dtracking.net/home.aspx
What other cool uses for the GPS have you found to use with your Kaiser?

I think the latest is the GPS photo functionality that was discovered to be built in. We were talking about this functionality at work but in an actual camera. Little did I know that i would discover this same function active in my TyTn II

y2whisper said:
I think the latest is the GPS photo functionality that was discovered to be built in. We were talking about this functionality at work but in an actual camera. Little did I know that i would discover this same function active in my TyTn II
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I did see that in the forums which just made the camera in the phone that much more useful. Very useful when on hikes or vacationing to take a quick snapshot. Sure, the camera on the phone is not a replacement for a high quality digital camera, but it is convenient and in outdoor light, does a pretty good job. Combined with the GPS tagging, it is fun too. I hope we get to see even more uses for the integrated GPS.

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y2whisper said:
I think the latest is the GPS photo functionality that was discovered to be built in. We were talking about this functionality at work but in an actual camera. Little did I know that i would discover this same function active in my TyTn II
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Can you please explain this function and how it can be used.
I am using Nokia's smart2go gps software in my Tytn-II and its working gr8, with Nokia's maploader u can download very detailed maps with very good databases particularly for middle-east.

Similar to your Mobile Justice product, here's one I saw the other day. Its kind of like LoJack for your phone:
http://www.pocketpc-live.com/pocketpc-softwares/ultimate-theft-alert-v3-for-pocket-pcs-2.html
It You can have your phone let you know where it is if its ever lost.

The company I work for does gps tracking for sports (running, skiing etc). I won't post the link, as i dont want to be seen as advertising.
But its pretty cool to be able to see how fast you ski (57.2mph is my fastest so far).

Someone sent me a note on this site that does something similar to 3d tracking. I will try it out now to see how it works.
http://gps.gpsxml.com/

Here is another tool that has a description with features similar to WIMP (Where Is My Phone) and Mobile Justice. Has anyone heard of it or tested it before? It is called Ultimate Theft Alert and has GPS as an add-on option.
http://www.pocketpc-live.com/pocketpc-softwares/ultimate-theft-alert-v3-for-pocket-pcs-2.html

I had no idea there were so many tools for GPS integrated mobile phones. Here is another freebie, this time from a well known PPC developer, VITO Technology. It is called FindMe
http://www.vitotechnology.com/en/products/findme.html

And for those with coding experience... here is an example with source code.
http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/FindMe.asp

swarnabhab said:
Can you please explain this function and how it can be used.
I am using Nokia's smart2go gps software in my Tytn-II and its working gr8, with Nokia's maploader u can download very detailed maps with very good databases particularly for middle-east.
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Basic use would be if you wanted to add pictures to a map (google earth i believe supports this) you take a picture and in geomarks your pic.
It is basically done by regedit - you can read more on this in this exact forum (should be on page one or two -- easy for us to say this while the kaiser forum is still fresh)

Have a look at this..... http://www.reperion.com/
Downloaded the software, registered an account and now my handset can be tracked by anyone with a pc.

yeah the file download was down before, working now, will try this one out

ericb said:
Have a look at this..... http://www.reperion.com/
Downloaded the software, registered an account and now my handset can be tracked by anyone with a pc.
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This is free for now it seems. I will try it out. Do you know if it is any different than 3d tracking? That one is free too.

Had a quick look t 3d tracking, reprion looks to do asimilar thing.
Both seem pretty cool anyway

Some more interesting GPS software: http://www.jgui.net/gps/index.html
Personal observation: There should be a standard for SMS messages whereby the GPS coordinates of the sender can be sent along with text or mms messages. This would be handy for location based services and when chatting with friends.

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Have a look at this..... http://www.reperion.com/
Downloaded the software, registered an account and now my handset can be tracked by anyone with a pc.
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AND PDA ! )
http://geocool.reperion.com

Somthing wrong with the GPS
Hi
There's something definitely wrong with the GPS happening from time to time.
Today, TomTom was off by nearly 1 kilometre using the internal GPS. Using BT GPS everything was fine.
After a restart: the location was spot on again.
It has happened to me 3-4 times now that the GPS is completely off the charts.
Wonder if this could be fixed with a Radio ROM update ..

swarnabhab said:
Can you please explain this function and how it can be used.
I am using Nokia's smart2go gps software in my Tytn-II and its working gr8, with Nokia's maploader u can download very detailed maps with very good databases particularly for middle-east.
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Sorry to maybe possible hijack this threat a little. I am also using smart2go. But I can't download any maps to my MicroSD with the Maploader. It always complaint that there is no space in my card (which has 3.7GB free). How were you able to download the maps to your card?
Many thanks in advance!
PS. Never mind. I found out that Smart2Go probably has a problem with storage cards larger than 2GB as if I use smaller MicroSD cards, the Map Loader works fine. So the solution is to run Smart2Go with a blank 2G or smaller card, then copy the files to the 4G MicroSDHC. Then Map Loader works (with a size limit of 1.8G for map data).....

Ok so still having some problems.
As noted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332811
Some programs don't instal for me, WIMP did install however (haven't tested it yet) so my assumption would be some kind of security setting that is on when installing cabs, do you guys turn it off? (i remember there was a way to do this with the Hermes) or do these apps just install out of the box (per se)?
EDIT:
Looks like its some kind of problem when i transfer the file over via activesync to the card. I put it on via straight pc to another card and it installs fine.

Best GPS Software for Kaiser?

Hey Folks -
I'm looking for the killer turn-by-turn software (with US Maps) - that I can digitally buy and install to my MicroSD. I've done a number of searches online looking for a product I can order and download (yes, I have the fever - IMMEDIATE GRATIFICATION IS NECESSARY) and get working with.
POI's are very important to me as is speed and stability...
Can anyone chime in with their preference? Please also supply a URL where I can purchase your favorite application...
Thanks!
StacT

uh tomtom?

there's a million threads like this, just use a search.. u'll get ur answers instantly and won't have to wait.
Having said that, I tried Destinator, TomTom, Garmin XT, TeleNav and I still stayed with iGo, which I love above all others.
Some have cool features like traffic and all that.. some are just pain in the ass (destinator).. so if you can - try it all before u buy.

Of course - I know about the players (MIO, TOMTOM, etc...) but can't find a digital distributor for just the software to install on my kaiser (like pocketgear or handango)... do you have a link?

http://www.navngo.com/pages/global/eng/where_ro_buy
scroll down to USA
wow.. they're actually really close to me, like 15-20 miles from me..
Anyway.. they have excellent US maps, at least I'm very happy with CA map - very detailed, over 2 million POIs.

Thanks for all the thoughts so far, but neither of them fits the bill -
1] The software must have North American/USA maps... iGo doesn't
2] The software must be downloadable...
Thanks!

Google maps. real-time and cheap!

liquidsilver said:
Google maps. real-time and cheap!
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Uh, cheap? It's free and sucks since you're download as you drive so a lot of the time maps just time-out. Mio Maps is one of the best, and TomTom is probably the best as far as being user friendly and simple, but, TomTom is pretty slow compared to Mio.

How about iGuidance v.4?
I've been using it for a few months. It has text-to-speech. The only problem is, you might i need GPSgate as some of the WM6.1 here doesn't refresh the screen often enough.
I've used TomTom too, it was nice but doesn't have text-to-speech.

I've used TomTom and it was pretty good, user friendly... only thing I didn't like about it was the routing and as the screen is touched it'll take you to the menu.
I've switched to Garmin and found that the one which suits me well so far --- more detail on maps, nothing popping up while touching the map on the screen, and looks a lot simpler. Its navigation software is not as "realtime" as TomTom, but is probably the most simplest to setup, install, and use

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2] The software must be downloadable...
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I don't know of one of the majors that is. With bandwidth costs they rarely fancy giving you GBs of map to download. Just buy one on a disc.

does anyone know of a good free one which allows you to put your own maps eg a photo of an os map or jpeg in for calibrating for camping hiking walking about woods ect.

I have been using a combination of TomTom and Google Maps. I use Google Maps for most of my POI's since they are updated, contain phone numbers, and are just plain easier to use. The TomTom POI's aren't that fantastic I've noticed. But I will take the location I find in Google Maps and then use TomTom to navigate me there since navigation in Google Maps isn't really turn by turn and can't redirect you automatically if you miss a turn.
My only complaint with TomTom is that you need around 1GB of storage on your SD card so you need a large one (I'm holding out for those 32s!) and it looks ugly when installed on the card. Random files and folders everywhere and it has to be on the root of the card. I'm a neat freak when it comes to file layouts so it drives me crazy.

what about ms live search?
I used it a few times on my recent vacation, it worked very well. Same benefits and drawbacks as google maps, but I think I like it's interface better than google maps.

Live Search has an arguably better navigation setup that Google Maps. GM closes when it loses it's data connection so it's worthless between cities where cell coverage is weak. MS does a better job of caching the maps and will stay active, showing the route and turns even when the data connection is lost. if I could only have one of them for road trips, it would be MS Live Search.

I've had no problems using iGuidance other than on several occasions, it took about 3 minutes to open for some reason. I also use Live Search and Google for a quick find when I need it.

godfa7h3r said:
But I will take the location I find in Google Maps and then use TomTom to navigate me there since navigation in Google Maps isn't really turn by turn and can't redirect you automatically if you miss a turn.
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haha i do the same exact thing,.... now if somebody could make a program where with one click u can transfer the address from google maps to tomtom, i'd pay for it

co-pilot live 7 will interface directly with MS live search if they ever release the NO CHARGE upgrade. it has been announced and was scheduled for release this month
BTW I paid $199 when Co-pilot 7 was released last year but the current price is $99 i guess the <$100 competition is getting to them.
I use and like Co-pilot live USA. I can't speak for other maps. the software comes preloaded on 2 gig SD card but you also get it on DVD. I copied the SD folders to my 6 gig SD card and all worked fine. the activation key is stored on local file sysem. but if you have to do a hard reset you can reactivate on same phone with no hassel.
for more info see www.alk.com

I have copilot as well, but at the $99 price point. The WM version is very nice. It comes with companion software for the desktop that just wont work on my vista laptop though.
Still for $150, you could buy a stand alone gps. But I thought about it and I always have this with me, so why buy another device? I didn't want to carry one.

Garmin Mobile XT multiple map sets on a 6 GB card

Hello! I purchased a 6 GB card for my AT&T Tilt as I wanted to keep both CNNANT 2K8 and CNEurNT v9 readily at hand (as well as music, etc.) I travel to Europe regularly and didn't want to have to juggle data on a 2 GB card. Anyway, I installed Mobile XT on the card successfully and I'm using the latest versions of MapInstall and MapSource on my laptop running Vista. I have the map files unlocked and can display them on my laptop. I have keys generated for both map sets and pasted into both the .UNL files in the Garmin folder on the card. It appears as one continuous 75-character key in each file. However...when I attempt to install both map sets to the card, although the install appears to go normally, I can display only one or the other map set. I can see through Windows Explorer that the available space on the card is down to what it would be with both map sets installed. I go to 'Manage My Data' in XT and all I can see is one of the map sets -- Europe or North America. I have tried every trick I can think of to get both sets to install properly but there's no difference. I do notice that when both have been installed, Mobile XT takes an inordinately long time to initialize on my Tilt. Any ideas? Thanks for your help!

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...I have keys generated for both...
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Warez discussion is not allowed on this board.
Anyway, contact Garmin if you want http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/us/support/supportcontact

Wasn't discussing "warez," there...
Thanks for the reply. All I'm attempting to do is combine both map sets on one card. If Garmin tech support was worth contacting, I would have done it. I'm not pirating and not condoning those who do. The "keys" in question are only to facilitate letting me combine what's already mine in a format useful to me. These issues have been sufficiently beaten to death on other threads so let's not belabor the issue.
Sorry for the rant...

changing maps with mortscript
I was asking myself too if it's possible to use two different maps the same time.
But i don't think it's possible with the pda version from Garmin. Correct me if I'm wrong....
My workaround is a little mortscript i made to choose which map i want to use....
If you're interested i can send it to you, you only have to change the values etc...

It's quite possible to have more than 1 map in a card, but it's required some key generate to make it work because of the Garmin's brilliant ideal (locked map to its specified tiny 1GB-2GB card.)

if you want to have multiple maps for different areas on one card, you should use "gmaptool" to combine them and load the resulting .img file on your device.
You have to have the maps unlocked BEFORE combining them, everything als wont work.
Sadly you can`t use mapsource with the combined file without buying the programm "img2mapsource" wich could do the job.
I dont really need mapsource though.
You can even combine to maps of the smae area, for example to get autorouting in a topo map.
To do so, you have to unlock both maps, set the map prioority with gmaptool to show the topo map over the auto.routing map and combine them afterwards.
The program is used in the command line. Read the readme for further instructions.

There is another way... still manual though.
I use MapSource to transfer only the maps I need to my Tilt. Unfortunately, as you all probably know by now, Garmin Mobile XT does not allow more than one map on the card simultaneously. If you try to do it from MapSource, the new map overwrites the old map.
So what I do is create mapsets in MapSource and save them for quick recall.
I created a mapset for all of North America using City Navigator 8 maps. Then I transferred that to my Tilt. Next I went onto my Tilt's SD card and renamed the mapset with a "CN-" prefix.
Now, I went back into MapSource and created a mapset for the NW states of the US using my Topographic 2008 maps. Then I transferred that to my Tilt. Next, I went onto my Tilt's SD card and renamed the mapset with a "Topo-" prefix.
Depending upon which mapset I want to use (on road or off road), I just remove the prefix and launch Garmin Mobile XT.
It's a manual process to switch maps, but it's minimal work and they're always on the card where ever I go. I'm sure you could do the same with EU maps or other maps.

i think that's exactly what i am doing with my mortscript

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Hello! I purchased a 6 GB card for my AT&T Tilt as I wanted to keep both CNNANT 2K8 and CNEurNT v9 readily at hand (as well as music, etc.) I travel to Europe regularly and didn't want to have to juggle data on a 2 GB card. Anyway, I installed Mobile XT on the card successfully and I'm using the latest versions of MapInstall and MapSource on my laptop running Vista. I have the map files unlocked and can display them on my laptop. I have keys generated for both map sets and pasted into both the .UNL files in the Garmin folder on the card. It appears as one continuous 75-character key in each file. However...when I attempt to install both map sets to the card, although the install appears to go normally, I can display only one or the other map set. I can see through Windows Explorer that the available space on the card is down to what it would be with both map sets installed. I go to 'Manage My Data' in XT and all I can see is one of the map sets -- Europe or North America. I have tried every trick I can think of to get both sets to install properly but there's no difference. I do notice that when both have been installed, Mobile XT takes an inordinately long time to initialize on my Tilt. Any ideas? Thanks for your help!
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I'm not sure if you're still looking for an answer on this or if you already figured out how to do this yet but I figured its worth a shot. I'm currently running Mobile XT on my Moto Q9h (WM6 device). The problem I was having was that if I loaded the detail maps for all of North America on to my 8gb sd card and then tried launching XT it would just hang on the splash screen at the beginning. After a bunch of reading and research I found a website that talked about loading different mapsets to XT (unfortunately I cant remember the website otherwise I'd give them the credit...). So what I ended up doing was breaking down my NA maps into 1 mapset for Canada and 1 for the US then I loaded both to my sd card and it worked like a charm. Here's what I did:
Install the first mapset to your device using Mapsource, so in your case I would imagine it would be the NA set but it can be either or. Once this is installed on your card, using active sync go to the Garmin folder on the storage card and rename the .img file from GMAPSUPP.img to GMAPSUP2.img. ** Notice that the name is still only 8 characters long **
Now that you've renamed that file, then go ahead and load the other mapset to ur device. Assuming that your maps are unlocked and good to go, you should see 2 img files on ur Garmin folder GMAPSUPP and GMAPSUP2. This should allow you to display both maps at the same time. You can verify the maps are installed by going to Tools--> Manage my data ---> Maps, it should display both sets plus ur base map.
Hope this helps.

This will work only if you copy two different maps, witch were unlocked with one and same map unlock code! If you have two different maps with two unlock codes - you should rename also GMAPSUP2.UNL file to have two working maps.

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I'm not sure if you're still looking for an answer on this or if you already figured out how to do this yet but I figured its worth a shot. I'm currently running Mobile XT on my Moto Q9h (WM6 device). The problem I was having was that if I loaded the detail maps for all of North America on to my 8gb sd card and then tried launching XT it would just hang on the splash screen at the beginning. After a bunch of reading and research I found a website that talked about loading different mapsets to XT (unfortunately I cant remember the website otherwise I'd give them the credit...). So what I ended up doing was breaking down my NA maps into 1 mapset for Canada and 1 for the US then I loaded both to my sd card and it worked like a charm. Here's what I did:
Install the first mapset to your device using Mapsource, so in your case I would imagine it would be the NA set but it can be either or. Once this is installed on your card, using active sync go to the Garmin folder on the storage card and rename the .img file from GMAPSUPP.img to GMAPSUP2.img. ** Notice that the name is still only 8 characters long **
Now that you've renamed that file, then go ahead and load the other mapset to ur device. Assuming that your maps are unlocked and good to go, you should see 2 img files on ur Garmin folder GMAPSUPP and GMAPSUP2. This should allow you to display both maps at the same time. You can verify the maps are installed by going to Tools--> Manage my data ---> Maps, it should display both sets plus ur base map.
Hope this helps.
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I tried this with North America and Europe maps (saved to 8Gb card) and it seems to work...I did verify that the maps are installed by going to Tools--> Manage my data ---> Maps, and it displays both sets plus the world-wide base map.
My question is how do I get it to display the second map...
I'm in the US, and I can zoom out and see the North America overall map, but I can't do see the Europe maps at all. I've selected both, and then tried just selecting Europe in the Mapsource menu, but I haven't been able to get the Europe map to display.
Any advice on what I'm missing?
TIA,
Chris
EDIT:: After a restart I was able to get all the maps to display...this is a great trick!!
Thank you.

Glad you got it to work, I havent loaded anything other than the NA maps but now I know that I can load other maps if need be.

not trying to dig up old threads but i'm using tomtom since the start and now want to try garmin
do i purchase mobile xt or city navigator north.america if i want to use it in canada?
and whats the difference between mobile xt vs c.navigator

Mobile xt is the "engine" to run the map. You have to pick North America map. Read more.

so basically city navigator is just the map...and mobile xt is the gps program that will find routes and current location n such. am i correct?

Correct!
bapssystupr3m3 said:
so basically city navigator is just the map...and mobile xt is the gps program that will find routes and current location n such. am i correct?
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You are correct!
Dean
ATT Tilt No Camera
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No need for Mapsource
sickchilly said:
There is another way... still manual though.
I use MapSource to transfer only the maps I need to my Tilt. Unfortunately, as you all probably know by now, Garmin Mobile XT does not allow more than one map on the card simultaneously. If you try to do it from MapSource, the new map overwrites the old map.
So what I do is create mapsets in MapSource and save them for quick recall.
I created a mapset for all of North America using City Navigator 8 maps. Then I transferred that to my Tilt. Next I went onto my Tilt's SD card and renamed the mapset with a "CN-" prefix.
Now, I went back into MapSource and created a mapset for the NW states of the US using my Topographic 2008 maps. Then I transferred that to my Tilt. Next, I went onto my Tilt's SD card and renamed the mapset with a "Topo-" prefix.
Depending upon which mapset I want to use (on road or off road), I just remove the prefix and launch Garmin Mobile XT.
It's a manual process to switch maps, but it's minimal work and they're always on the card where ever I go. I'm sure you could do the same with EU maps or other maps.
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Actually, you do not need mapsource for this.All what you need is rename GMAPSUPP.img and GMAPSUPP.UNL to GMAPSUP2.img and GMAPSUP2.unl with active sync and you are good to go.

i've been successfully install 2 different map..and registered in mapset..but it views only the basemap...how can i show the other maps?

I already do what you said..but what comes on the display is only the base map...(GMAPBMAP.IMG)..and i can not see the others i've already loaded on my garmin xt

In your SD card you would have gmapbmap.img as your global base map. For GMXT you can also have gmapsupp.img and gmapprom.img with the corresponding gmapsupp.unl and gmapprom.unl files as necessary. This works for me. I tried gmapsup1.img gmapsup2.img that other boards said would work but my GMXT doesn't load this filename. However, mine can have the global base map plus 2 other maps simultaneously.

Getting Tomtom 7 / tt7 to work LEGALLY

Having found and read the threads I can on the subject, I want to install Tomtom 7 (tt7) on my Diamond (I purchased the phone whilst on a trip to HK and it didn't have it installed), and to hook it up to Tomtom Home on my pc to purchase maps over and above the taster maps.
I've loaded the application cab from a thread on the Kaiser forum (which most people seem to agree is not Warez), and downloaded TT home 2.3 from the tomtom website. Have got the free taster map, but now want to buy more maps. However, I don't seem to be able to get Home to talk to my device.
From reading the threads, it's suggested to move the application from "Intern Gegeugen" (where it installs), to the Program Files folder. However, doing this breaks all the shortcuts.
Can anyone either provide a cab for the application that installs to the right place, or give me some step by step pointers how to get it all working? Would really appreciate the help!
Oh - and should anyone from Tomtom chance upon this post, the sooner you get your website and Home explicitly working for TT7, the faster I'm sure people like me would actually be buying your products- seems you've done the hard part of actually developing the software, just not making it easy for people to buy it right now!

That's interesting about moving the install folder... I haven't tried that. What I did do though was to uninstall Home 2.3 as I encountered the same problem and install Home Navigator 1.5. From there, you can just purchase maps of your choice. You need to link the device to a 'GO' device as they are the only models using version 7 software.
Hope this helps

raveydavy said:
Having found and read the threads I can on the subject, I want to install Tomtom 7 (tt7) on my Diamond (I purchased the phone whilst on a trip to HK and it didn't have it installed), and to hook it up to Tomtom Home on my pc to purchase maps over and above the taster maps.
I've loaded the application cab from a thread on the Kaiser forum (which most people seem to agree is not Warez), and downloaded TT home 2.3 from the tomtom website. Have got the free taster map, but now want to buy more maps. However, I don't seem to be able to get Home to talk to my device.
From reading the threads, it's suggested to move the application from "Intern Gegeugen" (where it installs), to the Program Files folder. However, doing this breaks all the shortcuts.
Can anyone either provide a cab for the application that installs to the right place, or give me some step by step pointers how to get it all working? Would really appreciate the help!
Oh - and should anyone from Tomtom chance upon this post, the sooner you get your website and Home explicitly working for TT7, the faster I'm sure people like me would actually be buying your products- seems you've done the hard part of actually developing the software, just not making it easy for people to buy it right now!
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Place the contents of "Intern Gegeugen" into My Device/Program Files/Navigator on the Diamond. Connect via Activeynch and finf TomTom Navigator.exe in the above folder. Right click, choose create shortcut and paste that shortcut in My Device/Windows/Start Menu/Programs and rename it accordingly.

And after that you can connect with tomtom home 2.3 (for PDA). First you choose your memory location, get an error, go back and your device is connect.

I've just given that a go and moved the install onto the internal storage. It all still seems to work ok. One question though, other than free up the main memory are there any advantages/disadvantages to running the app from internal storage? (i.e. does it run slower from internal storage etc)

I find if you install TomTom 7 on the internal storage, TomTom home 2.3 comes up with an error, installing it the the internal memory TomTom home picks it up fine.

I have tried the above, but still cannot purchase any maps. when I Click on the maps i just get the message 'No Items Available'

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I find if you install TomTom 7 on the internal storage, TomTom home 2.3 comes up with an error, installing it the the internal memory TomTom home picks it up fine.
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same for me! tomtom home recognices my device but can't really communicate with it.
i use the maps i get with me touchcruise/xda orbit2, they are version 6.75.
connected with tomtom home 1, device can get connect. i used the maps from cdrom and could install them. afterwards i activated the map on my device using my product code card, no problem :-D

Only TT home 1.5 is compatible with Navigator.
What I did was upgrade my TT6 maps to the latest then using TT home transfered the maps to the device and installed TT 7 after. works well

I changed TT6 into TT7 and I could use the same maps. All is working fine.
One question:
TT7 does not get a fix, when phone is not on. I found it today, when I use Tomtom in a car about 10 minutes. I stopped and turned phone on, so Navigator 7 got the fix easily.
I have not agps on.
In Artemis I did not find this kind of symtom with Navigator 6.

i have also tomtom 6 with maps from my o2xda2. i've installed the maps from cd over tomtom home 1.5. it installed successfully. but in tomtom 7 on my diamond i can't still use the maps.. they aren't listed in manage maps?! what do i wtong?!
please help

i don't know, i just installed tt7, not 6, then connected it with tomtom 1.5.
put the cd in and i was capable to install the maps.

yeah... i did the same! all fine! but when i start tomtom on diamond i can't change the maps. i only see the demo-map. you can?

yes, i can. i even never installed the demo map. you know that you have to choose/change map in order to see the right one?

yes i know... but there who i can change the map i see only bern (demo-city-map)!!!

Not being a SatNav user I did this
I am not really a big user of SatNav as I read the signs on the road.
However, I am a lover of toys and have always kept a copy of tomtom nearby for fun.
I installed the XDA linked TT7.cab file (11.9mb) and directed it to Internal Storage.
Then I went online and created myself a tomtom account. I went through the maps purchase wizard stating my device was a GO 720 model.
I then purchased the 7.2 Great Britain and NI Map. £29.95 - even by my standards a bargain.
I then downloaded Home 2.3 and connected my Diamond as a disk system.
When the Diamond came up it challenged me to select the location of my product and I chose Internal Storage. It then promptly through up an error message.
I did a back and continued. When I went to MAPS etc it didn't find my map. So I clicked on the Update Pocket PC icon and there was my map.
It didn't take long to download and install (161 MB ish) and now I have a working TT7 with the 7.2 map.
I could also update the Pocket PC with free voices and POI's too from the TomTom website (although I have forgotten the steps just now).
The advantage is that I have a working, reliable, sexy, copy of Tomtom 7.
The negative is that I don't seem to be able to use MAP share. This is not a big deal for me (as I never actually use Sat Nav anyway!). It didn't seem to matter once I had bought the map what I set the device to be - PDA or GO 720.
I hope that this is useful as a legitimate way of getting Tomtom 7 onto your Diamonds...and all for £29.95.
I have done this twice - once for me to play and once for the missus to actually use.
Not a bit of Warez anywhere - for 30 quid why bother with Warez?
All the best,
Sam.

I tried the above method and HOME 2.3 just said that the map i purchased was not an available device for these maps so the checkbox was greyed out...any ideas...maybe they caught on?
need a response please!
df

sfere1 said:
I tried the above method and HOME 2.3 just said that the map i purchased was not an available device for these maps so the checkbox was greyed out...any ideas...maybe they caught on?
need a response please!
df
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No it's not a case of have they caught on. TomTom 7 the application on a PDA is not supported on TOMTOM Home 2.3. You need to use 1.5 . This is beacause at the moment only PNA devices are supported on 2.3
The Maps which you purchace to activate with your device to make the application work have not been released yet for PDA so you have to use backwardly compatible maps . 6.75 etc until you can purchase ver 7 maps
As for Warez the licenceing is with the maps only and not the application which is available to download from TomTom . If you was to load hacked Maps then this is WAREZ as the Licence is with the maps. You can only use your brought maps with one device and that is the device you purchaced it for. Hence you get the activation number from your device as it is device specific.
You cannot if you purchased maps already from a different device use them on another device . This is the License law and you need to purchase new maps every time you cahnge device . You can email TomTom support but they will tell you the same thing.

All maps are 30% cheaper at the moment, because they'll release the new version in the beginning of August.

The 30 price reduction is not for Navigator user as I found out last month.
As for only using the Maps for one device (true in a sense) though I managed to activate via TT home my maps twice on my Trintiy (as the Device ID changed once when I flashed an early ROM and activiate the same product code again for my Diamond - which is indicated on the TTcode website as three activations.
I have purchase new 6.75 maps for my Navigator 6 and know these will work on version 7 once on general release.

gps software

I just bought a fuze and was doing some searching on here but cant find an answer can someone post some links on install or purchase gps/nav software for the fuze like garmin, tomtom, igo and things like that i need a good gps program

GPS software
Definitely try before you buy.
I like and use iNav's iGuidance. There are versions for both the PC/UMPC and PDA. Its convenient to be able to run the same app on the PC (play routes and etc.)
You may need to use franson GPSgate (I'm not sure for the Fuze). I have an older Mugal and it's internal GPS has issues. GPSgate (a pay for app) allows your phone to be a Bluetooth GPS device, as well as record routes (even to the gpsgate.com).

thats great and all but where do i get these apps i dont mind paying for them.
also i was looking at standalone gps and noticed that some even tell you how fast your travling is there any thing out there like that

http://gpsinformation.org/dale/PocketPC/wince.htm
Outdated page but it gives you a wealth of info to get started on your quest for ppc gps programs. Alot of basic ones are freeware. The nicer ones are payware.
Myself I use Nav and Go (Igo) for my navigation software.

I use OCN8 (http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/). I really like it. The first place to look at GPS software is www.buygpsnow.com. They have most of th popular street navigation programs. If you want topographic navigation programs (off-road) I would look at Memory-Map Navigator (http://www.memory-map.com), OziExplorer (http://www.oziexplorer.com) and BackCountry Navigator (http://www.backcountrynavigator.com). There are other topographic programs available, but these are the three I like.

are there any programs that tell you how fast your travling in mph

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are there any programs that tell you how fast your travling in mph
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Most of them do, you just need to set it.
I use Igo 2006 on my PNA, its great!
Although im trying to get some gps app working on my HTC touch PRo....finding it rarther difficult!

Some things to pay attention to:
1) Navigation - detours, methods/options (fastest, shortest)
2) Alerts - speed, weather
3) Points of Interest - categories, how many, usefulness
4) Maps - span, updates, etc.
5) Update methodology - how often, cost, new features, patches, support
6) GPS compatible - NMEA, Garman
7) Compatibility - device, display, OS, routes files, maps
8) Trip computer - average speed, max. speed, time of arrival, etc.
Try the freebies, Microsoft's Live Search and Google Maps for Mobile, they provide maps and directions along with extra online services (gas prices, movies, etc.-).

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Try the freebies, Microsoft's Live Search and Google Maps for Mobile, they provide maps and directions along with extra online services (gas prices, movies, etc.-).
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And definitely check out amazegps.com: free, with moving maps and spoken turn-by-turn navigation assistance (which Live Search and Google Maps don't have).

All the programs I mentioned above will display your speed. You should really look at the screen captures for OCN8. I was never a fan of the 3D display. OCN6, the version before OCN8 changed that. It's 3D map display was excellent. In OCN8, they have made it even better. In OCN8, they added building for many larger cities and will show elevation changes on the map. I believe it is the first street navigation program to do that. It makes the 3D map display very realistic. ONC8 also has a trip computer. It will give average speed for the trip, average driving speed for the trip, total time for the trip, driving time and stopped time. OCN8 has also updated the menus to make them very finger friendly.

The other thing to figure out is which type of map a program uses. The two most common ones are TeleAtlas and Navteq, and also how recent they are.
I've found Navteq to be more complete in the US than TeleAtlas, atleast in my area.
Garmin PNA = Navteq
TomTom PNA = TeleAtlas
So if you've ever used the standalone GPS units, see which one has more complete maps in your area.

i have a quick question about google maps. when you set directions with gps, when you pass a checkpoint does it update to the next one? will it count down the distance to the next checkpoint, or turn?

I was looking at the onc8 and cant figure out what the difference between the 2gb 4gb and 8gb is.

OCN8 is based on iGO8 engine; actually is iGO8 rebranded for USA.

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I was looking at the onc8 and cant figure out what the difference between the 2gb 4gb and 8gb is.
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OCN8 is sold only on SD cards -- you can't move/copy it to a different card, so you have to use the one you bought. You pick the size of the card you want to buy it on, depending on how much additional space you want to have left over after the application and maps. I think the 2GB card has a couple of hundred MB left, so if you're planning to use the navigation program and have a lot of audio or video, too, you'd want to buy it on a 4 or 8GB card instead of the 2GB card.
(This, BTW, is a deal-breaker for me; I love what I've seen of OCN8 in reviews and such and would definitely buy it if I could put it on my own card, but I'm not going to pay them for the program AND a large card when I already have a card.)

does onc8 on the fuze move and look like the screenshots on there site or is it more chopy then that it seems to move very smothly

also does the fuze support the sdhc standard so i can get either the 4 or 8 gb card

Yes, the Fuze supports sdhc. I have the OCN 8 on the 8GB card and use it in my Fuze. The map runs very smoothly just like in the demos if you can get the Fuze GPS working. I could not get a fix with any program. I finally found this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457996. I did steps 1 an 2 in post 1. I then deleted the gps log file names as suggested in post 8 steps 5. 1. and 5. 2. I then completed steps 3, 4 and 5 in post 1. Now the GPS work great with OCN8, Memory-Map Navigator and GPS Test. I get a GPS lock in around a minute.
I thought OCN6 was good, but OCN8 has taken street navigation to the next level. There were several things missing in OCN6 like saving a route to name one, that OCN8 has fixed. OCN8 has all the bells and whistles. OCN4 and 5 had Navteq maps and OCN6 and 8 had/have TeleAtlas maps. I have heard the aurguments about which map datbase is better. To tell you the truth, I have seen no difference. I have also installed Memory-Map Navigator on the card. I have a little over 5 GB free.

sweet o guess onc8 it is then

Screen pin lock compatibility?
Of the applications listed, the only one that I am aware of that keeps the phone from locking is Live Search. If your IT org forces a pin lock after a given number of minutes, that can be a real problem when you're using your phone as a GPS device.
Does anyone know of a turn-by-turn program that works properly with pin lock?
Does NOT work:
google maps
at&t navigator
tom tom 6