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Before you tell me to search; I have been for well over an hour. Screen lag, screen, lag, rotate, slow rotation, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah has turned up nothing for me yet. I am on an ATT Tilt, stock rom minus some bloatware, very clean almost nothing extraneous installed. When switching to landscape, it would take maybe a second to rotate. After playing a bit with KaiserTweak and MemMaid (no other changes) it can now take up to 4 seconds for initial rotation. Switch back to portrait is still very quick. Can't figure out what change may have done this, any thoughts?
You are experiencing the lack of acceleration for the video chipset on these units. There is a petition going for HTC to provide a DirectX compliant video driver a couple of stickies up.
Actually, I've been using this phone for 2 weeks now without this problem. I remember reading posts on here somewhere about this issue, but seeing as my rotation was almost instantaneous, I thought maybe this was only nitpicking. Now that I have played with the registry some, I have the same problem. My screen rotation was usually about 1 second. Problem is, I made many of the recommended changes for better performance, and I don't know which could have caused this.
Try setting all your KaiserTweak settings to the default, and see if it makes a difference. Then get back to us and tell us if it does .
Okay, had to leave things alone till I got back from work. The problem with just setting everything in kaisertweak back to default was that I had played a good deal with the registry before I ever installed it, so default was not going to get me back to my starting point anyways. I did try to go back to default though but that just screwed something else up. So after completely screwing up my registry, I did a hard reset, and lo and behold, quick rotation. My switch from portrait to landscape is about a one second, or less, delay again. I reinstalled all of my programs and checked it again, and it still works great. I really believe my delay was caused by something in the registry and not driver related because it works great now. Also, I am in no way blaming kaisertweak or any other program here. I simply believe one of the changes I had already made was somehow conflicting with one of these programs. For anyone that thinks this is simply driver related; maybe we should be looking a little harder at some of our registry values.
Right another thing ive noticed tonight...and i would have thought HTC would have solved this but seems like they couldnt care less.
Left my phone on charge at 6pm and went downstairs to watch some TV...anyways i came upstairs at about 12 and turned the phone on....it was in sleep mode like it normally does. Anyways looked at my screen and saw that the internet connection was still alive even though i specified that it should disconn after 1 min of idling. I also found the phone to be extremely sluggish....touchflow slowed right to a crawl. I opened up the the status and looked at the memory and it was down to 23mb!!!...no bloody wonder it wasnt snappy lol. Now this is where it gets interesting because really i had nothing running on the phone...always make sure all tasks are killed off. The only thing that was running was my gmail polling which takes place every hr or so...so dont know if that was causing a massive memory leak.
Im running it with the 1.37 uk stock rom as its a uk spec diamond...i looked through the task manager and couldnt see anything running.
So has anyone found this with the 1.37 rom??..i was going to flash to the new TLR 1.37 rom but just havent had time...has that rom fixed the memory loss.
Dont get me wrong, i still love the device...i restarted the phoen and all was well but over the past few hrs ive been watching the status of the memory and its slowly getting lower and lower. To be honest ive never come across a phone with such a bad case of memory leakage...ive owned most of the SE smartphones...P800, P900, P910i and P990c and i never found them to be as bad as the Diamond. But the good thing about those phones is that SE usually put out a new firmware to sort the memory leakage problems.
So i was just wondereing if anyone found their devices suffering from massive memory leakage....i know its WM thats causing it...
Just to give you an example....i re-started my phone about an hr ago and it was at 50 odd free mb...less than an hr later its at 40.85 mb free...and 72mb are being used...
Hi Spawn,
I've tried every ROM available and none of them fix the memory leak. After some time, a soft reset is necessary to get the TouchFLO 3D 'performance' back. My biggest gripe, is that when returning to the home screen, and watching the hour and minutes 'flop over' the hour part stutters a little bit. The only ROM I've had no stutter with is the Middle East ROM, and even then after some time the memory leak gets worse and it starts stuttering again. *Really* annoys me. Surely it cant be that hard to make that little animation look smooth and fluid.
HTC really need to get off their collective asses and fix this.
In the meantime, thank god for xda-developers.com!
You could try something: turn off Flow and see if you still get a leak.
I loved the look of the interface, but was forever actioning wrong items/ringing wrong people/whatever. I dropped it and went beck to SPB Mobile Shell (which I had been using on my 'good old' P3600i). I have never seen any leak.
I've noticed this too.
If I click on the little task manager icon in the top right corner as soon as the phone is rebooted it displays about 50% roughly. As the day goes on, its up at about 75% - and I have no programs running at all. The only thing I've used through the day is Texting and a bit of Opera.
It seems the phone needs rebooted every day or 2...
I'm also running the UK 1.37 ROM
Hi,
Does Hibernate help reclaim the lost RAM?
Regards
Hello,
You know, the memory leak problem exists since Windows Mobile 6.0. I had it with my previous Eten X500+. Unfortunately, it has not been fixed with WM 6.1. This is a microsoft problem, not HTC...
Philippe
salada2k said:
Hi Spawn,
I've tried every ROM available and none of them fix the memory leak. After some time, a soft reset is necessary to get the TouchFLO 3D 'performance' back. My biggest gripe, is that when returning to the home screen, and watching the hour and minutes 'flop over' the hour part stutters a little bit. The only ROM I've had no stutter with is the Middle East ROM, and even then after some time the memory leak gets worse and it starts stuttering again. *Really* annoys me. Surely it cant be that hard to make that little animation look smooth and fluid.
HTC really need to get off their collective asses and fix this.
In the meantime, thank god for xda-developers.com!
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Yep thats what my diamond was doing...it was having a hard time with the clock.
Anyways seems like we are stuck with this memory leak till HTC release a rom which rectifies or wait for someone to cook up a rom which will rectify the memory leak. Only other gripe i have other than the memory leak is the battery but thats not too bad.
Guess ill just have to re-start the phone every so often. I disabled emailing polling as that seemed to cause it to hang a bit ie the connection stays on even though ive told it to disconn after a min of idling.
Hibernate as far as i know doesnt help the situation as my phone last night was in sleep mode.
I have this issue also, and I have to restart the phone once every two days to free up the memory. I think I know where this comes from : TouchFlo3D records every action you make to optimize the use the next time you boot
or not...
raphaelc said:
I have this issue also, and I have to restart the phone once every two days to free up the memory. I think I know where this comes from : TouchFlo3D records every action you make to optimize the use the next time you boot
or not...
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Yeh after doing a few more tests, it seems like tfl3d is right resource hog...it just wants to take over everything. Im hoping future rom releases optimises the tfl3d but like you im resorting to restart the phone every other day or else it just becomes unuseable.
Its shocking how bad HTC are with their QC control...surely they could see this being a problem ie tfl3d eating up memory like a rabid wolverine.
Thank god for XDA though, at least ill be happy in the knowledge that someone here will be able to figure out this mem leakage and sort it out fingers crossed.
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Its shocking how bad HTC are with their QC control...
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it must be the same dream team which Q-checked windows vista
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it must the same dream team which Q-checked windows vista
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LOL...well i run vista ultimate on my laptop and its not that bad...M$ and HTC really dont have a clue when it comes to mem leakage...even in WM6 and before it was apparent that memory leakage is a problem..they really need to address the memory leakage problem....i just wish they would do so rather than ignore the problem altogether.
I've changed the clock to the non-flipping one... it seems to make the TouchFlo a bit smoother as it has less 3D to cope with. You certainly notice it after a day when pressing the Home key - its much quicker!
here's the story: my Tytn II was running fine for some months
one day I was travelling and need to use the GPS until there was just around 8% battery level
then everything started to get slow (GPS map couldn't even redraw)
ok, I though it was in some "slow-clock mode" to preserve battery
then I reseted it and, when I came synced it at home, ActiveSync said it couldn't sync (don't remember why) and it would have to send all the information again
but it was taking forever, so I stopped it and did it again later, when it said it was success
I then noticed my speed dial numbers had been lost, but that's not a big problem
the biggest problem here is that for the last 5 days my Tytn is slowing down very often (like 5 minutes after I reset it), even after I removed all startup programs!
What I'm noticing:
1) GPS maps doesn't redraw (I waited more than 2 minutes... it should take like 1 second)
2) Freecell cards are animating very slow after a completed level
3) touchscreen responsiveness is slow
4) I have TodayAgenda... after I change the date of a calendar item, it doesn't get displayed in the new day (just if I reboot)
5 and probably most important) mstli.exe is using 80 to 98% CPU
any hints?
Lem0nHead said:
here's the story: my Tytn II was running fine for some months
one day I was travelling and need to use the GPS until there was just around 8% battery level
then everything started to get slow (GPS map couldn't even redraw)
ok, I though it was in some "slow-clock mode" to preserve battery
then I reseted it and, when I came synced it at home, ActiveSync said it couldn't sync (don't remember why) and it would have to send all the information again
but it was taking forever, so I stopped it and did it again later, when it said it was success
I then noticed my speed dial numbers had been lost, but that's not a big problem
the biggest problem here is that for the last 5 days my Tytn is slowing down very often (like 5 minutes after I reset it), even after I removed all startup programs!
What I'm noticing:
1) GPS maps doesn't redraw (I waited more than 2 minutes... it should take like 1 second)
2) Freecell cards are animating very slow after a completed level
3) touchscreen responsiveness is slow
4) I have TodayAgenda... after I change the date of a calendar item, it doesn't get displayed in the new day (just if I reboot)
5 and probably most important) mstli.exe is using 80 to 98% CPU
any hints?
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What rom are u using? Sometimes its good to make a hardreset.
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What rom are u using? Sometimes its good to make a hardreset.
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I'm using L26
Since I didn't change anything else, not installing/uninstalling programs and so on, I don't like the hardreset idea (there's a lot of work to set everything back again )
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I'm using L26
Since I didn't change anything else, not installing/uninstalling programs and so on, I don't like the hardreset idea (there's a lot of work to set everything back again )
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There's often alot more work in diagnosing exactly what the cause is. If you haven't installed anything else then a hard reset (not a reflash) isn't to much work and it gives you the opportunity to progressively reinstal and test any additional software you do use. When you find the app that when installed or configured/used causes the slowdown, then you've found the culprit. Major slowdowns don't just happen out of the blue without changes to the software unless it's due to hardware failure and a hard reset will quickly pick up that sort of issue.
By all means wait to see if others with the same setup have experienced the same issue and if so what they did to solve it but I suspect you'd have it fixed sooner, going down the hard reset route.
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There's often alot more work in diagnosing exactly what the cause is. If you haven't installed anything else then a hard reset (not a reflash) isn't to much work and it gives you the opportunity to progressively reinstal and test any additional software you do use. When you find the app that when installed or configured/used causes the slowdown, then you've found the culprit. Major slowdowns don't just happen out of the blue without changes to the software unless it's due to hardware failure and a hard reset will quickly pick up that sort of issue.
By all means wait to see if others with the same setup have experienced the same issue and if so what they did to solve it but I suspect you'd have it fixed sooner, going down the hard reset route.
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I couldnt say it better. I flash and hardreset my phone very often, its a little bit painfull but u will get used to it.
Do not be afraid of the hardreset.
just letting you know I remembered in this same day I had the battery problem, I changed a setting on IP Dashboard (configuring it to keep max 500 KBs history)
I now removed IP Dashboard the problem stopped
will try some other program later, or the old config
thanks
Hello all,
I installed Manilla 2D on my Kaiser two weeks ago. I'm really happy with it, except that I experience a few freezes.
These freezes were happening often at the begining. I disabled the automatic update feature into the weather forecast widget. Then, the freezes quantity decreased a lot !
But they are still there. They appear randomly, whatever I do. They last about 5 seconds, and they appear about once every 10 minutes (but it does not happen when using IGO for hours, for exemple ...).
I'm using the original HTC 6.1 ROM with hard SPL 3.29.
I had no freezes with this ROM before installing Manilla 2D, so I'm sure my problem does not come from my ROM or hard SPL.
Does someone know where does my problem come from ?
Thanks a lot !
remeber everything about that is still a beta there wil be bugs in it.
OK, but does someone else experience these freezes ?
Because if I'm the only one, that means there must be something to do to avoid them.
I was getting freezes on one of the roms I tried (I can't remember which one) and I fixed it by changing my radio. It might be worth experimenting a bit with that.
I didn't change my ROM, I just installed Manilla 2D on my already in use ROM. Before installing Manilla, I had no freezes at all. So I don't think my problem comes from the radio. There must be something wrong with Manilla 2D somewhere (a parameter or something like that)...
Mine freezes all the time, but I have Sock ATT 6.1 ROM. Most of the freezes happen when scroll to the mail tab.
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I was getting freezes on one of the roms I tried (I can't remember which one) and I fixed it by changing my radio. It might be worth experimenting a bit with that.
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Well, I just found that my freezes only happen when I leave the flight mode ... So finally it may be related to the radio ... I will try to change it but I still do not understand why this problem did not exist before installing Manilla 2D !
Thanks for your answer anyway !
OK, so here are the first results of my tests :
my original radio version was 1.65.17.56.
I did load the radio version 1.71.09.01.
For now about 15 minutes, my Kaiser did not freeze at all !
So thanks a lot for your help !!! Especially to DancJ
EDIT : well, in fact I still have some freezes, but a lot less, and when they appear they only last around 1 second. So it's a lot better, but not perfect ... I still would be glad to know where do these freezes come from ...
EDIT 2 : after now 24 hours of use, no more freezes at all ... So it looks like the radio version upgrade was the solution.
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Mine freezes all the time, but I have Sock ATT 6.1 ROM. Most of the freezes happen when scroll to the mail tab.
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I have that problem all the time. Did you ever figure it out.
(yes, I know this thread is old)
Hello everyone ,
Does someone experiences the same problems as seen in this thread for the Touch HD?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446440
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To sum up, there's little 'freezes' lasting 4-5 seconds where the screen doesn't respond to any inputs.
It occurs randomly and without reason.
HTC released an hotfix regarding this problem, that can be found here:
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=0&dl_id=448
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However, this is for the Blackstone. When executed on the X1, there is a message box saying
"Please use the correct device to install this hotfix program"
The fix can be extracted and there's a _setup.xml that seems to tell what the .exe does;
I was wondering if it were possible to port it for the X1 as the Blackstone and the X1 are somewhat similar?
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Hard resets didn't helped neither, freezes are also present.
I'm using this:
ROM Version: 1.02.933.3
ROM Date: 08/29/08
Radio Version: 1.06.25.29
Software Version: R1AA017
I also have these freezes occasionally.
I managed to install the files from the hotfix the other night, (because, well because I like to experiment) I spent 5 times as long removing them.
The display inverted, but not the calibration!
ill change the cab info install at your own risk.
however i do not have this issue. I have an issue of after long idels of not using my x1 at work the screen will apear to be cracked but the images are really cracked. a soft reset fixes this issue. (this is ment for a seperate thread) just giving you info on other display bugs on the x1
also can you upload the cab as the htc site will not allow me to download it.
My issue is actually with the camera... if you leave the Camera application on a long time, like 20-30 minutes idle, it will eventually crash, and it will say Camera.exe has stopped responding (or something like that, asking if you want to send a report to MIcrosoft)
just get freezes when i use the HTC album. other then that, nope.
Here's the .exe (renamed to .cab since xda seems to block .exe),
for those who can't manage to download it.
@Shadowmike
Thanks for your help
Sorry to go off topic a little :
Regarding your idle screen problems, I don't have any of it (maybe because I'm experimenting tweaks with it a lot so don't have time to idle really long )
May it be related to GWES:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa925858.aspx
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To sum up, there's an interesting registry value named PORepaint that can take values from 0 to 3.
The key I would change may be:
HKLM\System\GWE\PORepaint
The factory default on my X1 is 0 but for your problem, I would set it's value to 2.
Personal Feedback:
When you press the ON button in order to wake the screen, the screen goes blanks for few milliseconds (blank flash), but it's repainting the entire area.
No major speed issues noticed between 0 and 2 values.
Hope this helps
I have the same problem with my X1, using the latest R2 rom (generic UK). It annoys the most when playing games like Bejeweled 2 and the screen suddenly freeze for a few seconds although the game and time keep running in the background and when it stop freezing I already lose time/points. It also happens with every other game I tried playing, even after hard reset. Any fix available yet?
doclucas said:
I have the same problem with my X1, using the latest R2 rom (generic UK). It annoys the most when playing games like Bejeweled 2 and the screen suddenly freeze for a few seconds although the game and time keep running in the background and when it stop freezing I already lose time/points. It also happens with every other game I tried playing, even after hard reset. Any fix available yet?
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Exactly what I get. It is most encountered in games where you touch the screen rapidly. Suddenly the whole OS freezes for 5-6 seconds then continues for some time until you get it again. It is very annoying.
Exactly. It happens ONLY with rapid screen presses. I observed this when typing.
Yes. This happens to my X1 also. It is possible to reliably replicate this bug.
The shadowmike's Cab didn't do anything usefull. So the HTC's Hotfix for the HD doesn't apply
Anyway, I made a Video describing this bug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cOhX8yY5Yk
Hm.. Yesterday right after I did that video, I flashed my X1 with the newest official ROM (version 1.03.931.8 (dated 12/21/08)) from this site. Then, I installed the shadowmike's cab. After the soft reset, the problem hasn't (yet) surfaced (plus the system seems more responsive). Fingers crossed .
Edit: Nope.. False alarm. It still happens. Though rarely..
yup...
it happens...
doesn't really concerns me though...this is windows mobile anyway
pikipirs said:
Yes. This happens to my X1 also. It is possible to reliably replicate this bug.
The shadowmike's Cab didn't do anything usefull. So the HTC's Hotfix for the HD doesn't apply
Anyway, I made a Video describing this bug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cOhX8yY5Yk
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Youtube a$$hole$ seem to have removed your video for some reason, was a good one though, wonder if they get commission from SE. Maybe you can post it on a different video site...
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ill change the cab info install at your own risk.
however i do not have this issue. I have an issue of after long idels of not using my x1 at work the screen will apear to be cracked but the images are really cracked. a soft reset fixes this issue. (this is ment for a seperate thread) just giving you info on other display bugs on the x1
also can you upload the cab as the htc site will not allow me to download it.
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Thx a lot for having uploaded cabs as I have sometmes the freezing issue also from my side on my X1
doclucas said:
Youtube a$$hole$ seem to have removed your video for some reason, was a good one though, wonder if they get commission from SE. Maybe you can post it on a different video site...
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Strange.. I can still access and see the video (no cookies works too). Does the video still appear deleted? Or was it just a glitch
Aye, same here... Mostly when playing insaniquarium. I just tried the .cab fix, didn't fix anything for me
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Aye, same here... Mostly when playing insaniquarium. I just tried the .cab fix, didn't fix anything for me
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it happens to me as well...i think this generic bug in x1.
So how do I reliably test the bug ? It happens to me sometimes, but I did not find the pattern yet.
Watch my video (top of this page) to see how I did it (I've shot myself (with a camera ) couple of times doing it).
If that doesn't work, try to load some app. Like any game that somehow reacts to your touch (even Bejeweled works). Then try touching really fast and repeatedly. It shoud happen.
Here's a sound recording of me tapping a jewl in Bejeweled (i'm really hitting the display, do it more gently). It should give you an idea how fast you need to tap. Right before 0:06 the screen stopped responding, i did 4 taps to verify, and then another, and then it started responding again (3 more taps). Sometimes all it takes is 5 seconds (like it did here), but other times, your hand will start to hurt before it happens. Just rest a little bit and then try it again.