Hi all,
My Kaiser (Vodafone 1615) has developed a problem with the standard Windows Messaging application. It basically won't run at all. When I click on the Messaging application in the Today screen, nothing happens. When I choose Messaging from the Start menu, nothing happens.
A quick bit of history: for several months I've had it set up for connecting to our work Exchange server, so email/calendar/contacts/tasks would get pushed down to the device. I also had IMAP configured to access my gmail account. I would sync calendar/contacts/tasks/notes/files to my home computer (Windows Mobile Device Centre on Vista), and sync notes only to my work laptop (ActiveSync 4.5 on WinXP). It was all working beautifully.
Then, a few days ago I connected my Kaiser to my work laptop and I got error 0x80004005 when it tried to connect to the Exchange server. Since then, I have been unable to access the Messaging application on my Kaiser. I've found quite a few references online to this error code, but nothing that seems particularly useful.
Of course, I've done a soft-reset as well as taken the battery out to do a cold-boot, but to no avail. I suspect that if I were to do a hard-reset then I could get it working again, but I've hesitated so far to do that because I'd have to re-install all my other apps which would take some time, so I'm hoping someone here can help me out!
Maybe this is the opportunity to try out one WinMo 6.1...
Thanks in advance!
--rkml67
rkml67 said:
Hi all,
My Kaiser (Vodafone 1615) has developed a problem with the standard Windows Messaging application. It basically won't run at all. When I click on the Messaging application in the Today screen, nothing happens. When I choose Messaging from the Start menu, nothing happens.
A quick bit of history: for several months I've had it set up for connecting to our work Exchange server, so email/calendar/contacts/tasks would get pushed down to the device. I also had IMAP configured to access my gmail account. I would sync calendar/contacts/tasks/notes/files to my home computer (Windows Mobile Device Centre on Vista), and sync notes only to my work laptop (ActiveSync 4.5 on WinXP). It was all working beautifully.
Then, a few days ago I connected my Kaiser to my work laptop and I got error 0x80004005 when it tried to connect to the Exchange server. Since then, I have been unable to access the Messaging application on my Kaiser. I've found quite a few references online to this error code, but nothing that seems particularly useful.
Of course, I've done a soft-reset as well as taken the battery out to do a cold-boot, but to no avail. I suspect that if I were to do a hard-reset then I could get it working again, but I've hesitated so far to do that because I'd have to re-install all my other apps which would take some time, so I'm hoping someone here can help me out!
Maybe this is the opportunity to try out one WinMo 6.1...
Thanks in advance!
--rkml67
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do u have a messaging.lnk in your windows directory? Or in windows/start menu/programs?
Mikulec said:
do u have a messaging.lnk in your windows directory? Or in windows/start menu/programs?
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Yes, there is a Messaging shortcut in both the Windows and Start Menu folders. It points to "tmail.exe", which exists in the Windows folder. When I try to open tmail.exe directly in File Explorer, nothing happens...
rkml67 said:
Yes, there is a Messaging shortcut in both the Windows and Start Menu folders. It points to "tmail.exe", which exists in the Windows folder. When I try to open tmail.exe directly in File Explorer, nothing happens...
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Looks like I am out of ideas. Do u use HTC HOME? If yes, what happens when u hit one of the icons(where it counts your received messages, mails, ...)?
If this is not working, then u should install some sms application and use it instead of the default one.
Mikulec said:
Looks like I am out of ideas. Do u use HTC HOME? If yes, what happens when u hit one of the icons(where it counts your received messages, mails, ...)?
If this is not working, then u should install some sms application and use it instead of the default one.
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Yes, I use HTC Home, and I get the same behaviour (i.e. nothing happens) when I click on the two buttons where it counts the number of messages I have.
I'm really thinking I'm going to have to do a hard reset to get this working again unless anyone else has any ideas...
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As I have been sifting through the forum I have come across several threads about people wanting to know how to get rid of outlook e-mail from messages.
The e-mail I have set up on my kaiser is the same as my outlook on my pc, so when I sync I get duplicate e-mails and have to disable the option to sync mail with pc, but this still leaves the outlook account in messages.
Well here's how to get rid of it.
First you will need a registry editor, I recommend Resco Registry editor but others will work fine.
Then you will need to make a backup of the registry key we are going to delete. So open up your registry editor and go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc
Now in here you will find several folders(so to speak). These include Activesync, imap4, pop3, MMS1 and SMS.
Go into Activesync and their should be a key called "Friendly Name" this should say something like "Outlook" go back to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc then select the "Activesync" folder and use menu to export the folder as a .reg file (backup file) then select the "Activesync" folder again, but this time delete it.
Now close your reg editor and go into messages and the Outlook title should be replaced with the title Activesync. Just soft-reset your device and the Outlook mailbox including "Activesync" has now disappeared leaving just the e-mail accounts and other message accounts that you use whilst mobile.
Should you wish to restore this option just inport the .reg file you created into the registry and soft-reset and it'll be back.
Well I hope this helps. And quick thanks to all members of this forum for your continued support to the community and even helping the little guys.
diigibio (diigimatrix)
worked on my Tilt
Thanks! Great solution!
EDIT: Wiped out my outgoing MMS. Dropped registry backup back in and both MMS and Outlook Mail were back.
diigibio said:
The e-mail I have set up on my kaiser is the same as my outlook on my pc, so when I sync I get duplicate e-mails and have to disable the option to sync mail with pc, but this still leaves the outlook account in messages.
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Why do you have duplicate emails? With an exchange server, your emails on device and in your pc's outlook will replicate - and without exchange they sync anyway?
What's the settings for MMS1? I don't have that in my registry.
dis39tif said:
What's the settings for MMS1? I don't have that in my registry.
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Each of these folders represent an account within messages. So "Activesync" is "outlook" (used and updated when syncing with a pc version of outlook or using an exchange server), IMAP4 Corresponds to my (@btinternet.com/using imap), SMS is for SMS (go figure/lol), MMS1 (this can also just be MMS on some device/dependant on version of Arcsoft) POP is for my (@3mail) account and Hotmail is for hotmail (in juction with using Windows live).
So by deleting the "activesync" folder you are in effect deleting the information to display the account.
Also I deleted the imap4 folder (after making a backup of course of the reg entry) And soft-reset the device. It removed my @btinternet account with e-mails. But after i imported the .reg backup I made and soft-reset the device again the account returned with all e-mails intact and fully readable.
**Possibility for a freeware app to hide accounts that are private??? using a password to auto add/remore .reg to access accounts or maybe not. **
Thanks trying to bring something to those who have helped me... Thanks
diigibio (diigimatrix)
unwired4 said:
Why do you have duplicate emails? With an exchange server, your emails on device and in your pc's outlook will replicate - and without exchange they sync anyway?
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Hi unwired, The reason I get duplicates is because I don't actually use an exchange server. I have my @btinternet.com account set up on both my home Supreme Pc, My laptop and my Kaiser. But when I used to cradle my kaiser with my pc (mainly for appointments) to update it used to download my e-mails from outlook on my pc to my kaiser. So in the outlook account on my kaiser would be all the e-mails from my pc version of outlook, then in my @btinternet.com account were the same e-mails that I collected whilst I was mobile.
So I needed access to my @btinternet account whilst mobile but in the outlook folder that wqould not let me sync so then i had to set up the other.
So i stopped it syncing with outlook messages on the pc and then decided to try and get rid of the outlook account, which is what i then proceeded to do!
Ok i am going to stop now before i start going round in circles..
But thanks for the question..
diigibio (diigimatrix)
thanks diigibio!
I was looking for some time to solve this. now my kaiser is even more what I want it to be.
kudos to You mate!
br
bro
bronx said:
thanks diigibio!
I was looking for some time to solve this. now my kaiser is even more what I want it to be.
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Your welcome mate. To be honest I think it was your comment about it I came accross the other day on the forum, which is one of the reasons I decided to post it. I'll try and help more if I can. I've just setup talking dial tones. so when I dial a number it says the number rather than beep. Thanks to grumps for the tones!! I think he's compiling an app to do this easier. But i couldn't wait and so set it up via the registry...
Oh www.htcclassaction.org reports we could have proper display drivers by the end of march!! So fingers crossed our Kaiser will fullfil their legacy!!
diigibio said:
Hi unwired, The reason I get duplicates is because I don't actually use an exchange server. I have my @btinternet.com account set up on both my home Supreme Pc, My laptop and my Kaiser. But when I used to cradle my kaiser with my pc (mainly for appointments) to update it used to download my e-mails from outlook on my pc to my kaiser. So in the outlook account on my kaiser would be all the e-mails from my pc version of outlook, then in my @btinternet.com account were the same e-mails that I collected whilst I was mobile.
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Cool. Thanks for explaining.
Thanks Diigibio.
I don't have that registry file (obviously). I have the Shogun's Palm SMS threading program installed and lost my MMS'. The fix to install the Arcsoft composer and run an enablemms.cab never worked for me. I wonder if this is what it's trying to fix.
dis39tif said:
Thanks Diigibio.
I don't have that registry file (obviously). I have the Shogun's Palm SMS threading program installed and lost my MMS'. The fix to install the Arcsoft composer and run an enablemms.cab never worked for me. I wonder if this is what it's trying to fix.
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Yeah, sounds like it. If you post that .cab here. I'll take a look for you mate and see what I can come up with over the next week. Failing that I can take my .reg setting for the mms and possibly create a link to the default messaging app.
However my best mate has an o2 xda orbit and I installed WM6 on it but there is no 6.1 yet and he wanted threaded sms. So i installed Shogun's Palm sms. Now when he opens that app he does not have mms, however when I linked to the default messaging app that still contained his mms account and all the mms I sent him were waiting there for him.
So try this out and if you need my help just ask. You can PM me for my e-mail address if you want to send the .cab direct or ask for any other help. I am at work tomorrow(or should I say today) and am on a sleep over so i will check my pm but it'll be from my Kaiser.
Hope I could help..
diigibio (diigimatrix)
dis39tif said:
Thanks Diigibio.
I don't have that registry file (obviously). I have the Shogun's Palm SMS threading program installed and lost my MMS'. The fix to install the Arcsoft composer and run an enablemms.cab never worked for me. I wonder if this is what it's trying to fix.
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I have used a .cab analyser on the enablemms.cab and it contains no registry entries at all (none will be added or removed(except for unistall info and platform.reg which I believe is more to do with os at a guess))
and contains these files:
CeSetup.dll in the \Program Files\Tools Folder
checkfile.exe in the windows folder
Platformxxx.reg in the windows folder
CM_Entries.xml in the windows folder
And
Customize.lst in the \Program Files\Tools folder
Let me know how you get on..
diigibio (diigimatrix)
hi there again...
the trick works great, but I think, that I have a small problem in here.
after applying Your trick on my stock t-mob uk vario III everything went fine except loosing sound for new sms. even if I have ticked in my options to play sound and show message I can't hear or see any notification. only sign of new message is number of new messages in the middle of htc home plugin.
now.. I made a backup of that key before deletion, but...
I've deleted it.. '(-_-)
any chance for You to post that .reg file for me mate?? or if You have some other solution, then I would be more than happy to avoid hard reset.
br
bro
bronx said:
hi there again...
the trick works great, but I think, that I have a small problem in here.
after applying Your trick on my stock t-mob uk vario III everything went fine except loosing sound for new sms. even if I have ticked in my options to play sound and show message I can't hear or see any notification. only sign of new message is number of new messages in the middle of htc home plugin.
now.. I made a backup of that key before deletion, but...
I've deleted it.. '(-_-)
any chance for You to post that .reg file for me mate?? or if You have some other solution, then I would be more than happy to avoid hard reset.
br
bro
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No worries mate, I still have sound on my sms notifications although I did have to deselect play sound in sound and notifications and reset then re-select the play sound option. And it worked for me but I have a stock htc tytn II. I am at work on my kaiser at the moment and the browser won't let me add an attachment, so when I get my laptop out at 6 i'll post the .reg entry. Fancy deleting it !! lol.. Check back around 6.30. It'll def be on tonight pal..
diigibio (diigimatrix)
cheers
I know I sound like a dumbo saying that it's deleted.. but ... oh well
thank You again
br
bro
.reg files
Sneeked on!
Here you go mate...
thanks
I tried soft resets just as You did - no luck for me unfortunatelly.
never mind, fix was sweet anyway. I'll try to play with it bit mo.
br
bro
Thanks for the update diigibio. I appreciate any help. How did you link your friend's phone to the default MMS messaging app? Or would it help if I tried to reapply registry settings?
dis39tif said:
Thanks for the update diigibio. I appreciate any help. How did you link your friend's phone to the default MMS messaging app? Or would it help if I tried to reapply registry settings?
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The default messaging application remains untouched, especially when installing third party replacements such as SMS threading (IMSMS, Palm, Textr and so on). The default link goes to \Windows\tmail.exe.
The quickest way to do this is by using Resco File Manager. click on the tmail.exe and hold until (right-click) menu appears and click "send to" then choose "Start Menu as Shortcut".
Once this is done you can access it via the start menu or use the button app to map it to a button or use with a today screen plugin (spb etc) As when you install the third party app it either replaces the original shortcut with its own or alters the original link to point to the third party app.
Hope this is of some help...
diigibio (diigimatrix)
Thanks! worked great for me on WM 6.1 I didn't see the active sync option before the restart either.
Well guys, I have tried to search over the forum, and read the wiki, yet I can't see any related topics, thus, I post here...
My problem is,
I have setup the hotmail account by following the steps in window live, in fact, it is functioning quite well except 1 thing, my device doesn't notify me when there is any new mail even though I have the sync. option set to "when item arrive", time range is "automatic". Plus I have assigned a sound effect for "New email" in Sound Settings.
My device currently running 1.37 CHT ROM.
Hope someone could help on this.
Thanks in advance.
Well.. anyone has the same problem?
I've got the same problem. It's worked once or twice, but the majority of the time it just doesn't sync. I've tried a couple of things, but nothing that works consistently.
Seems to work if I'm logged into messenger, but I shouldn't need to be logged in all the time...
Is it a T-Mobile / MDA Compact IV thing or have I just not set up the phone right? (In the Comm Mgr, Microsoft Direct Push is greyed out and says it needs to be configured - is this something different, for maybe using Exchange?)
Anybody have any ideas?
Thanks
I have the same problem....this really sucks, and i might have to sell my diamond again..
I have the same problem. Anyone with a solution please?
glacieruk said:
I've got the same problem. It's worked once or twice, but the majority of the time it just doesn't sync. I've tried a couple of things, but nothing that works consistently.
Seems to work if I'm logged into messenger, but I shouldn't need to be logged in all the time...
Is it a T-Mobile / MDA Compact IV thing or have I just not set up the phone right? (In the Comm Mgr, Microsoft Direct Push is greyed out and says it needs to be configured - is this something different, for maybe using Exchange?)
Anybody have any ideas?
Thanks
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Direct push will only work when you have configured an Exchange server. My windows live syncs without any problems....Same configuration as mentioned earlier here.....
MRE-net said:
Direct push will only work when you have configured an Exchange server. My windows live syncs without any problems....Same configuration as mentioned earlier here.....
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can somebody give me detail information about it?
I try to set by the windows live...
but there has any notification problem,
It must set in dierect push?
I use my hotmail all the time, and have been using it on my Diamond for the last 4 months successfully.
Yesterday I logged into Hotmail on my PC and I got a message about Hotmail has changed... better layout etc - but since this I can't get it to work on my Diamond.
I go to www.hotmail.com and then enter my user and password. I get the inbox screen, but it never fully loads (the green bar is about 1/3rd of the way). I can see my new messages in the inbox, but if I click on them nothing happens. Can someone else try this and tell me if its just coincidently collided with my update to the new Dutty 2.8 ROM - or have Microsoft added Flash content into the Hotmail page or something?
I've also tried Opera Mini - which is exactly the same making me think its not my Dutty ROM.
I'll be a bit miffed if I can't check my Hotmail anymore on my Diamond, as its one of the main things I need an 'internet' phone for.
Right... I've now set up the Windows Live application - so that my Hotmail comes into my Outlook. It seems to work well, but when I do a Send/Recieve from within Outlook it connects via my GPRS / 3G rather than my Wi-Fi (which is connected at the time).
If I do a sync from within the Windows Live app, it syncs by Wi-Fi.
Its a bit annoying as I just got a message with a 2mb attachment. I try to open it, and even though I'm connected by Wi-Fi, it still tries to downlaod the attachment by GPRS!
I've looked through all the settings, but can't see anything? Any ideas?
I've just tried it and got similar results; I got the "we've changed the design a bit" message then my inbox loaded up fine, but I could click on any of my email messages. It was like the page just wasn't registering the clicks at all.
It's not a complete killer for you though as you can access your Hotmail inbox using the Windows Live application on the Diamond which, as I understand it, will skip the web interface entirely.
EDIT: Sorry dude, I was still typing when you made your second post so I didn't notice that you'd already found the Windows Live app. I don't use it myself so can't offer any help with the issues you're having there.
Medulla said:
I've just tried it and got similar results; I got the "we've changed the design a bit" message then my inbox loaded up fine, but I could click on any of my email messages. It was like the page just wasn't registering the clicks at all.
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Thanks for trying it. I don't know what they've done in their changes, but its pretty annoying!
I'm probably better using the Windows Live program anyway as it will be quicker anyway. Its just annoying that it wants to connect to GPRS instead of using my Wi-Fi!
made a post in the general section as it seems to affect other WMs aswell?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443203
Hello, Please forgive me if this is anywhere on the forum, but I have searched everywhere and cannot find it.
I have lost the ability to get any emails and messages. This is not just a problem of not being able to send, I can no longer even see my email and message accounts. When I tap messaging or email, on my front screen in programs or wherever else, there is just a brief pause and then nothing happens.
I am using Mobile 6.1 on an unlocked Tilt (kaiser). I have a number of SPB programs running. I upgraded the ROM about a year ago, but I cannot remember which one it is. I have tried using a backup of the phone that I saved with SPB plus. Nothing.
I've tried hooking it to active sync and then trying to sync the emails. Not only nothing, it cannot sync--though this was a problem long before.
There are a few other quirks, too I use Tmobile and there is a signal that you have a phone message. I go into voicemail and there are no messages, but the symbol still remains.
Also, when it boots up, it tells me that there is a problem with my voice command program.
How do I get email and messaging back without reinstalling everything?
Has anyone ever heard of not being able to access the email and message functions of outlook at all-- and have them just stop suddenly.
Thanks
Fized the Problem
I am not sure what fixed it, but I went all around the site. I decided to try two things before reinstalling everything. First, I deleted any of the new programs I had installed recently. That did not do it. Then I popped out the storage card and rebooted. That did it -- but then I had a lot of memory problems. (I don't mean in my head, though I do sometimes.) So I uninstalled some of the larger programs, such as the SPBs. It is finally working again.
I'm not sure what happened, but if others are having this problem, try this first and see if it works.
PS It is fixed, not fized. Sorry about that
I'm not sure if I got that right or not, but is the problem that your inbox doesn't even open or it opens but the mail sync isn't working??? for me i had a problem in my mail sync and it wasn't solved except when i changed which internet connection type the programs should use.
Outlook not opening .. fixed
Ipepper said:
Hello, Please forgive me if this is anywhere on the forum, but I have searched everywhere and cannot find it.
I have lost the ability to get any emails and messages. This is not just a problem of not being able to send, I can no longer even see my email and message accounts. When I tap messaging or email, on my front screen in programs or wherever else, there is just a brief pause and then nothing happens.
I am using Mobile 6.1 on an unlocked Tilt (kaiser). I have a number of SPB programs running. I upgraded the ROM about a year ago, but I cannot remember which one it is. I have tried using a backup of the phone that I saved with SPB plus. Nothing.
I've tried hooking it to active sync and then trying to sync the emails. Not only nothing, it cannot sync--though this was a problem long before.
There are a few other quirks, too I use Tmobile and there is a signal that you have a phone message. I go into voicemail and there are no messages, but the symbol still remains.
Also, when it boots up, it tells me that there is a problem with my voice command program.
How do I get email and messaging back without reinstalling everything?
Has anyone ever heard of not being able to access the email and message functions of outlook at all-- and have them just stop suddenly.
Thanks
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I had the same problem with Outlook not opening for email or text messages. The problem seems to be that there were several messages in the outbox which would not send. I had specified that attachments be placed on the storage card when available.
To solve the problem of Outlook not opening I first ran the Microsoft Installer Package “WindowsMobile61-KB958639.msi” to correct the SMTP email sending problem. Next I removed the storage card and rebooted the device. Outlook then opened and I did a send and receive which cleared the outbox. Then I replaced the storage card.
The problem of Outlook not opening appears to be fixed.
I effed up my phone with the android thing, and now none of the buttons work and I can't install any cabs or remove them. Touch screen does work. I need a way of copying my contacts and messages before I hard reset.
frostz said:
I effed up my phone with the android thing, and now none of the buttons work and I can't install any cabs or remove them. Touch screen does work. I need a way of copying my contacts and messages before I hard reset.
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just conect your x1 with activesync from computer.. and sincronice all the contact , the message, the file and the email. with outlook...
activesync won't backup his messages.
solution: "microsoft myphone"
frostz said:
I effed up my phone with the android thing, and now none of the buttons work and I can't install any cabs or remove them. Touch screen does work. I need a way of copying my contacts and messages before I hard reset.
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get this software called PIM for pocket pc. (link below)
http://www.freewareppc.com/database/pimbackup.shtml
you can back up contacts, calender entries and messages in a .pib format. if u copy that .pib file to your SD card it should be unaffected until u wanna restore them again.
to restore, just run that file. it restores all your backed up information.
EDIT: this software does not require any installation and is not a .cab file so you should have no trouble running it.
caliban2 said:
activesync won't backup his messages.
solution: "microsoft myphone"
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Yes activesync won't sync this and myphone service has been shutdown now. I guess it was online only ?
Do you guys know any way to retrieve the messages from the PC now when the phone itself is not operational ??
(lcd cable problem - so things like this PIM app on the phone can't be used)
przemke said:
Yes activesync won't sync this and myphone service has been shutdown now. I guess it was online only ?
Do you guys know any way to retrieve the messages from the PC now when the phone itself is not operational ??
(lcd cable problem - so things like this PIM app on the phone can't be used)
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you can connect you phone to pc, boot windows mobile and connect via active sync, then you can install mymobiler then you see the display content on you pc, then the easiest way should be to sync you calender/contacts via google (here is how to)
btw: just noticed that that prog is working in android too
neoofoox said:
you can connect you phone to pc, boot windows mobile and connect via active sync, then you can install mymobiler then you see the display content on you pc, then the easiest way should be to sync you calender/contacts via google (here is how to)
btw: just noticed that that prog is working in android too
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Many thanks. This program works brilliantly I can now control my old X1 without LCD !
google sync - nice but no thank you. this company one day will have virtually every private detail about people !
przemke said:
Many thanks. This program works brilliantly I can now control my old X1 without LCD !
google sync - nice but no thank you. this company one day will have virtually every private detail about people !
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they allready have every private detail.. even of no google users...