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Why Opera?

I have Opera on my Kaiser. 26 days to go for free.
But I have problems being motivated to buy the version.
Anybody an opinion?
Have no problems with IE till now. But maybe I am missing some important features.
Huib

Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.

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Successfully renders web pages more frequently than does the IE - IMHO

herpi said:
I have Opera on my Kaiser. 26 days to go for free.
But I have problems being motivated to buy the version.
Anybody an opinion?
Have no problems with IE till now. But maybe I am missing some important features.
Huib
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Try scrolling down a long page with PIE and you will know why Opera Mini is better. PIE almost grinds to a halt after the first screen or two has scrolled up.
EDIT: Update to above entry. PIE now has a fix for scrolling issue - downloadable here: IE Slow Scroll Fix for Kaiser_Tilt.cab
Mike

mikechannon said:
Try scrolling down a long page with PIE and you will know why Opera Mini is better. PIE almost grinds to a halt after the first screen or two has scrolled up.
Mike
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Gotcha!
Tested them both with a longer page and the difference is clear.
Thanks for your input.
Huib

Hi!
can Opera-mini and other apps be run from the memory card satisfactorily?
i.e are they slower?
I wonder if my other applications such as Resco Explorer 2007 and Code Wallter can be run from the card too?
Ofiaich

Don't take what I say as gospel but when I had Opera installed on the SD card it didn't function completely correct - like didn't follow email links correctly along with a couple of other glitches etc.
Likewise I have always been a bit hesitant to install things that operate so cloely with the OS, like Resco Explorer, to the card. They have always seemd to work much better on the main memory. Just my opinion.
Thus I have Opera mini and Resco Explorer installed on the main memory while just about everything else I have on the SD card.

jcrompton!
Thanks very much! Sounds good to me, and I have space in the main memory!
I will get on and download Opera mini !
Ofiaich

Opera Can Handle Regular Youtube!
Please Dont quote me on this, but if i am correct, Opera (paid version, not mini) can render many types of complicated flash websites including Youtube(Yes the regular one not youtube mobile). I say this because i tested it for myself, a while ago on my mda vario or vario 2 (sorry cant remember). What seemed to be a slight problem though was, it ran out of memory frequently (ram) and as such the program would not start if other applications were running in the background.
Opera users on WM6, your reviews and thoughts on this are much appreciated!

gogol;1566087 said:
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
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Do you mean Opera mini or Opera mobile?
looks like mini is for phones not pocket pc's
??

jcrompton said:
Do you mean Opera mini or Opera mobile?
looks like mini is for phones not pocket pc's
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I have Opera Mobile... Are ppl actually saying to try Opera Mini? I will if thats the case.. But it's made for phones not WM6 devices.
JB

opera mini? that's a java midlet. why wouldn't it work on the kaiser?

gogol said:
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
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OK - so I just figured out how to get Opera Mini work via the Java app under programs -- have you been able to get email links and other http links to automatically be opened by Opera Mini - I made some registry changes to get Opera Mobile to be the default browser, can you get Opera Mini to do that ? (wasn't sure since it is buried as a Java program)

stryker1355 said:
Please Dont quote me on this, but if i am correct, Opera (paid version, not mini) can render many types of complicated flash websites including Youtube(Yes the regular one not youtube mobile).
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Well you asked for it. I am going to have to quote you. Youtube does not work on my 8925 in Opera, neither the moble specific version (says media file type not supported) nor the full youtube site. Ugh.

I agree that you wouldn't really want to use Opera Mini on the Kaiser....Opera Mobile though is the bomb! I just wish it was free like the Mini version is, but it's good enough to pay for anyway. PIE just is not very good at rendering most webpages.

opera is very good browser but the built in pie some times show websites better than opera example http:\\www.xda-developers.com

maryjos said:
I agree that you wouldn't really want to use Opera Mini on the Kaiser....
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I don't agree , it's superbly fast, it's free and it has good viewing settings. For straightforward surfing it's fine. I say give it a try you may be surprised.
Mike

Does opera support flash videos?

mikechannon said:
I don't agree , it's superbly fast, it's free and it has good viewing settings. For straightforward surfing it's fine. I say give it a try you may be surprised.
Mike
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Are you able to "auto" load links like from an email

swamp2 said:
Well you asked for it. I am going to have to quote you. Youtube does not work on my 8925 in Opera, neither the moble specific version (says media file type not supported) nor the full youtube site. Ugh.
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I just hit YouTube with Opera on mine and any 'watch now' links open the video for streaming in WMP. Is that normal?

Best Browser: Opera Mini, Opera mobile, Netfront, or Mozilla Minimo?

What is in your opinion the best browser (last version) for our Kaiser instead of Explorer.
I never tried Mozilla Minimo or Netfront...any feedback?

For quick n easy when on GPRS Opera Mini
If on 3G OR wifi then opera mobile.
I've tried the rest and these are the best IMHO

I've tried Minimo and found it absolutely useless. Was not impressed with Opera Mini, but Opera 8.65 is Impressive.
I've never tried Netfront but I would like to.

To be honest I'm not sure that these kinds of thread get us very far - and often lead to arguments.
The best advice is try them all yourself and lookup Menneisyys guides as he does a superbly dtailed round up of these.
Having said the above, I'll ignore it and say this:
Another vote for Opera Mini's latest version (very fast and actually a nice set of features and viewing options - great on the road) Free so you can have it anyway alongside any other browser
PIE is actually pretty decent IF you install the slow scroll fix CAB (without the CAB installed forget it)
I also use Opera Mobile. Actually I sometimes run bothe PIE and Opera mobilesimultaneously- there are some sites that just render better on some browsers than others and it's not always consistently the same browser. So that's my choice or rather my three.
Mike

Can you post that .cab here. (PIE slow scroll fix CAB) I can't seem to find it in a search.
Thanks!
mikechannon said:
To be honest I'm not sure that these kinds of thread get us very far - and often lead to arguments.
The best advice is try them all yourself and lookup Menneisyys guides as he does a superbly dtailed round up of these.
Having said the above, I'll ignore it and say this:
Another vote for Opera Mini's latest version (very fast and actually a nice set of features and viewing options - great on the road) Free so you can have it anyway alongside any other browser
PIE is actually pretty decent IF you install the slow scroll fix CAB (without the CAB installed forget it)
I also use Opera Mobile. Actually I sometimes run bothe PIE and Opera mobilesimultaneously- there are some sites that just render better on some browsers than others and it's not always consistently the same browser. So that's my choice or rather my three.
Mike
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Opera mini, no doubt!

zcink said:
Can you post that .cab here. (PIE slow scroll fix CAB) I can't seem to find it in a search.
Thanks!
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PIE Scroll Bug Fix for Kaiser_Tilt
Mike

Got it -- Thanks!

honestly i have found opera mini the abs. best hands down..the only thing i can say that it should add is a way to have more than one window. but thats it.

Another vote for Opera Mini. Don't forget to read my related tips & tricks, which make it MUCH easier to use - for example, the invocation hack. See http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers

zcink said:
I've tried Minimo and found it absolutely useless. Was not impressed with Opera Mini
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Try it with Jbed, using the hacks & shortcuts I've developed and/or explained in my Bibles. With them, OMini is WAY better than without.
zcink said:
I've never tried Netfront but I would like to.
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You didn't lose much - OMini and/or Opera Mobile / IEM with a decent plug-in (PIEPlus + Flash + CrEme for Java) is WAY bettter.

Could you send a link to your bible ? Thanks

Ok I found it http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?cat=168

Picsel Browser pwns Opera Mini IMO. I split time between Picsel and Opera 8.65.

cp_kirkley said:
Picsel Browser pwns Opera Mini IMO. I split time between Picsel and Opera 8.65.
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There was me thinking I was the only one using "Picsel Browser"

I'm looking for some tabbed browser, I'm currently using ANB Web Viewer, but want something better
Any hints?

ratcom said:
There was me thinking I was the only one using "Picsel Browser"
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I know were in the minority for sure, hehe. Cant tell you how many times a WM user has asked what browser i was using and where they could find it!

cp_kirkley said:
Picsel Browser pwns Opera Mini IMO. I split time between Picsel and Opera 8.65.
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Let me disagree - if you know the right hacks/ shortcuts, Opera Mini is by far the easiest to use. Particularly now with the bookmark sync features between your mobile device(s) and desktop browser(s) - it REALLY rules!

I use PIEPlus

opera mini by far

HELP with ATT Tilt!!!

Hi, I saw the other day on the internet, the WM6.1 have a very cool internet explorer, that you can zoom out and things like that.
Is it posible to install a internet explorer like that on a ATT TILT wm6 ???

I can do that with Opera Mini it is free just got to www.opera.com on your phone and it will download it. It is a java app so you will have to run java everytime you want to get online but it loads quickly on my tilt so it doesn't bother me. Loads a lot better than IE

egk-69 said:
Hi, I saw the other day on the internet, the WM6.1 have a very cool internet explorer, that you can zoom out and things like that.
Is it posible to install a internet explorer like that on a ATT TILT wm6 ???
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Here you go bud
http://www.4shared.com/file/40322087/d5507a61/XDA_WM_61_PIE_For_WM61.html?dirPwdVerified=ccff00ff
Install. Soft Reset

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Here you go bud
http://www.4shared.com/file/40322087/d5507a61/XDA_WM_61_PIE_For_WM61.html?dirPwdVerified=ccff00ff
Install. Soft Reset
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thanks it works

My opinion
Personally I never use Internet Explorer unless checking MLB/NFL scores quick.
I use Opera Mini ( http://www.operamini.com/beta/ ) <---- Download here
This is one of the best free browsers out there...again in my opinion. I also like Opera 9.5 (here is the link to the leaked beta version that I use and I love it!!) ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378876&page=10 )
Hope these help. Have a great day
~22~

WOW!! OPERA IS SUPER FAST!!, but dont have a screen keyboard, or I havent found it, anyways its very very cool!!!
thanks People!!

nace222 said:
Personally I never use Internet Explorer unless checking MLB/NFL scores quick.
I use Opera Mini ( http://www.operamini.com/beta/ ) <---- Download here
This is one of the best free browsers out there...again in my opinion. I also like Opera 9.5 (here is the link to the leaked beta version that I use and I love it!!) ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378876&page=10 )
Hope these help. Have a great day
~22~
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I download the operamini 4 (or something like that) and its very very fast!!
the opera 9.5 have something different??, (im still reading all that post)
I can watch youtubepocket on IE, but in operamini I cant, is theres a way to see youtube on opera
THANKS!!!

need to activate?
Hi, I installed the cab and restarted my ATT Tilt with HTC rom, launched IE and can not zoom. What needs to be done? tia

skyfire on diamond

today i read a news about a new upcoming browser named skyfire.
and what i am asking me: when the open beta comes to my country and i install it on my diamond... can i change the default browser für touchflo3d?

here is a version i tried using. only half the screen is skyfire and the other half is today screen. check it out. maybe it works for you.

Skyfire is a pretty good web browser for mobile phones. It was apparently found to be the fastest - mostly because it renders the pages from a central server.
I believe you have to register with them to fully use the software (you need a Skyfire account).
Also, there is a new release, but it still does not support VGA devices yet.
- Keirmeister

yes but can i change the default browser in touch flo 3d?
maybe in some time no one wants to use opera and all want to use skyfire.
seemts that its just a simple shortcut to change.

Skyfire is not compatible to VGA right now.

I tried out Skyfire on my diamond and there is a workaround the half screen problem. Other than the fact that flash works, i don't think it is better than Opera 9.5 at least not until a VGA version comes out.
I uninstalled Skyfire and now I have the problem where PIE is now my default browser instead of Opera. Whenever I tap on a link on my rss reader or email, it goes to PIE by default. Is there a way to change my default browser back to opera?

Just Re-run the WM_6_HTC_PPC_Opera9.cab in your windows directory, and it will re-install Opera and fix the link issues. Your bookmarks, history and other browsing data will not be harmed.

Skyfire 0.85 is out, with VGA support. Just tried it and it works like a dream on my Diamond, even able to watch top gear on iPlayer with it.

Hi,
Installed on my MDA Compact and it works well. However, it won't connect using wifi.
Any solutions?
Regards

raines43 said:
Skyfire 0.85 is out, with VGA support. Just tried it and it works like a dream on my Diamond, even able to watch top gear on iPlayer with it.
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I just downloaded it too and mananged to get a video playing from the iPlayer but I don't get any sound. Did you have any issues with sound at all?
(I'm on Dutty's V3.2 ROM)
To answer another question the latest version works on VGA but allegedly not on WVGA so Touch HD users may be disappointed. You can download it here http://get.skyfire.com/ and yes, Skyfire asks you if you want to make it the default browser.

andy2111 said:
and yes, Skyfire asks you if you want to make it the default browser.
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Maybe... but uninstalling it even when it's not default resets your default browser to PIE. Which sucks.

i cannot download it,has anybody have vga cab?

Just open http://get.skyfire.com/ in your mobile browser, you'll get to download the cab directly from the phone!

i have opened it 100 times but i cant download,it always get me back to getskyfire.com.
i am not in usa,i am in europe,can somebody please post/upload cab???

Yes, here u go....

man flash is amazing,speed even more amazing.
but everything is too muggy,i mean letters and all that is hard to read?!?

new beta version Skyfire
Code:
[URL="http://rapidshare.com/files/184957818/skyfire085beta.CAB.html"]http://rapidshare.com/files/184957818/skyfire085beta.CAB.html[/URL]

intel286 said:
man flash is amazing,speed even more amazing.
but everything is too muggy,i mean letters and all that is hard to read?!?
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This is because unlike PIE/Opera Mobile, skyfire downloads the webpage on a regular pc, then sends you "an image" of the website, in a low quality.
So it's not actually that fast, zooming and panning are weak on it.

intx said:
This is because unlike PIE/Opera Mobile, skyfire downloads the webpage on a regular pc, then sends you "an image" of the website, in a low quality.
So it's not actually that fast, zooming and panning are weak on it.
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can i somehow change thiis?
or can i get flash in opera?

You can get flash in opera mobile
Check the developments and hacking forum on XDA, it's near the top.
Look for Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 and a compatible Opera build =]

Making Skyfire the Default Internet App

Hi Guys I was wondering if theres a way to make skyfire the app that opens when you click the internet button in TF3D. Now that it actually works on VGA devices I like using it over opera. Is there any way to do this?

The first time you fire up Skyfire it should ask you if you want it to be default. If you happend to have missed that or it did not come up you can do it manually by Opening Skyfire tapping menu>setting>then checking the box next to "Set Skyfire as Default Browser".

This should work. Make sure you dont have opera installed. If you do opera wont work any longer. When it asks to make opera the fefault browser say NO or your email links will not open anymore. Please post results.

aruppenthal said:
This should work. Make sure you dont have opera installed. If you do opera wont work any longer. When it asks to make opera the fefault browser say NO or your email links will not open anymore. Please post results.
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What is the easiest way to get rid of Opera once installed?
Thanks

norkoastal said:
What is the easiest way to get rid of Opera once installed?
Thanks
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Go to settings/installed programs and uninstall it. If its cooked in wont be so easy. On the stock rom and several cooked roms its cab installed during customization and easy to get rid of.

Is that really a good idea.. Skyfire kills the battery quicker than anything else that ive tried.

I did make it the default browser but that didnt work. I'll try that downloadable fix in a bit. To the person talking about battery life, i didnt really notice that. I would actually be extremely surprised if skyfire used more battery than opera, since skyfire does all the pre-rendering on their servers and not on your phone, making your processor work alot less. did you actually do a true comparison? meaning if you were watching hulu on skyfire and just browsing websites on opera it is probably going to skew the results.

djcaston said:
I did make it the default browser but that didnt work. I'll try that downloadable fix in a bit. To the person talking about battery life, i didnt really notice that. I would actually be extremely surprised if skyfire used more battery than opera, since skyfire does all the pre-rendering on their servers and not on your phone, making your processor work alot less. did you actually do a true comparison? meaning if you were watching hulu on skyfire and just browsing websites on opera it is probably going to skew the results.
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I have to agree tha skyfire is harder on the battery. However, i find it a far more superior browser. Ill gladly trade the battery for it.

Is there anyway to undo this and get opera back as default without having to reinstall the rom? Or Opera Mobile 9.5 beta for that matter.