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I am due for an upgrade tomorrow!

Its 18 months or so since I joined this forum, and it was because of my new MDA Vario II.
I'm now due for an upgrade, and there is only one phone I want - the III.
So, tell me - what should I do? I'm so confused and disapointed. I use my Vario II to stream YouTube video and surf the web, and from what I've seen, the III isn't up to it.
Please tell me I'm wrong and I should call for my upgrade tomorrow !!!!
Ratzz

Get the kaiser

Seriously, do you want to buy mine off me / swap? T-mobile branded, but you can flash / do what you like with it.
I really can't use it as an everyday phone. On another forum (hexus.net) the guy said simply - it's not a phone as such. It's a tool for techs / devs or whatever who need the extra functions. But for a phone it lacks in many usability ways that your average nokia / SE / samsung does not. It's a shame really, the device has so much potential to be awesome, it's completely the software side of things that lets it down.
It has dropped a fair few useful features from WM5 / earlier versions too - like having a t9 text input rather than a touchscreen keyboard. Now you *have* to get the stylus out if you want to send a quick message without altering from portrait to landscape to use the hard keyboard, which takes around 2 - 3 seconds anyway for the hardware to redraw it.

Looks like HTC are working on the vids driver issue. Someone has suggested a patch in feb/march. Have a read of some of the posts on it.
take the plunge. get one.

DaveShaw said:
Looks like HTC are working on the vids driver issue. Someone has suggested a patch in feb/march. Have a read of some of the posts on it.
take the plunge. get one.
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Yea I read that. But also read a post saying that there is no driver due for release since there is no ATI Imageon hardware built in to have drivers for. Who knows? There comes a point where you need to say you've had a product that hasn't delivered what you expected for long enough. However, it is full of features so maybe a good choice. But if I was buying right now with the knowledge I have now I'd probably not get a smart phone but something nice and simple that could perfectly perform the duties I wanted it to
So short answer: it's up to you

Thanks for that feedback guys. I'm pretty use to my MDA and its functionality, even though making a call can be sometimes difficult.
So, is video playback as bad as is mentioned?
Also, I use voice dialing and the hands-free speaker. Are these functions on the III?
cheers guys,
Ratzz

I watch youtube on mine all the time. I think it is just fine. I have been using the Kaiser now for 5 months and I love it and would not make another choice.

kaiser really is something
Yes those feature are in it out of the box. U should get one. All in all, it is the best pda out yet. I personally love mine, and with the right rom u can make it fly. It doesnt have problems with any 320X240 video, and with the new coreplayer 1.1.3 not even with bigger ones so get it. It's a great pda phone!

lusta1988 said:
Yes those feature are in it out of the box. U should get one. All in all, it is the best pda out yet. I personally love mine, and with the right rom u can make it fly. It doesnt have problems with any 320X240 video, and with the new coreplayer 1.1.3 not even with bigger ones so get it. It's a great pda phone!
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Thanks guys -- still a great place to be for advice!
Speaking of the right ROM, which is the right ROM.
I never flashed my Vario II, but have been reading a bit about it.
Can anyone point me to the right thread for a first timer?
Ratzz

ratzz said:
Thanks guys -- still a great place to be for advice!
Speaking of the right ROM, which is the right ROM.
I never flashed my Vario II, but have been reading a bit about it.
Can anyone point me to the right thread for a first timer?
Ratzz
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The Vario II is the HTC Hermes. Have a look here at the upgrading forum. There are some stickies on HardSPL, which you must follow before upgrading the ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=306

AT&T tilt camera fix?

Whats the lastest way to fix the camera and video camera on this phone. The picture is like very choppy and unclear. I saw another tilt camera and it does the same thing. Any solutions.
Bonus Question Whats a ROM?
Don't laugh too hard. I'm just a freshman at this.

what ROM are you using? I have no problems at all with my camera on my Tilt.

I guess the Att rom. i havn't really changed that much on my phone just added some apps.

bambu456 said:
I guess the Att rom. i havn't really changed that much on my phone just added some apps.
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Read sticky threads at the top about flashing HardSPL to your device, then you can choose a ROM to reflash.
ROM is like... mmm like package: OS + lots of different software.
I'd recommend Dutty's v4 ROM for Tilt.
ALso, make sure that you understand the risks of flashing. This may void your warranty with AT&T (not like they really give one, though..) or even brick your device (make it totaly useless) it you're not doing it right.
Read, read, read. It's fun stuff, really.

Do i lose my info on my phone and all my apps and settings when I flash?
Got a link for Dutty's v4 ROM

bambu456 said:
Do i lose my info on my phone and all my apps and settings when I flash?
Got a link for Dutty's v4 ROM
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Go read some more stuff on flashing as well as the camera (drivers, etc)
You seem to be seeking basic knowledge which is available around here by just searching.

bambu456 said:
Do i lose my info on my phone and all my apps and settings when I flash?
Got a link for Dutty's v4 ROM
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Previous poster is right - go read up on it. It's a commitment you want to be ready for. Or you gonna flash Dutty's v4, see "TV static" screen, freak out and pass out. Or something.
But yes, you will lose everything. So sync up with outlook and make backups (hint: use PIM backup (google it)).
Software-wise - you can get everything here. If you have software you paid for, then save install packages someone in safe place (NOT ON PHONE) along with serial #s. You can reinstall after reflash.

bambu456 said:
Do i lose my info on my phone and all my apps and settings when I flash?
Got a link for Dutty's v4 ROM
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See the link in my signature..."Thing to do before and after a flash"

ROM
bambu456 said:
Whats the lastest way to fix the camera and video camera on this phone. The picture is like very choppy and unclear. I saw another tilt camera and it does the same thing. Any solutions.
Bonus Question Whats a ROM?
Don't laugh too hard. I'm just a freshman at this.
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very first hit on Google
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read-only_memory
Read-only memory (usually known by its acronym, ROM) is a class of storage media used in computers and other electronic devices. Because data stored in ROM cannot be modified (at least not very quickly or easily), it is mainly used to distribute firmware (software that is very closely tied to specific hardware, and unlikely to require frequent updates).
Google is very powerful tool, just need to use it often.....

DarkDvr said:
ALso, make sure that you understand the risks of flashing. This may void your warranty with AT&T (not like they really give one, though..) or even brick your device (make it totaly useless) it you're not doing it right.
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Just a note (and a plug), Best Buy's service plan will cover you bricking your phone
Note: I work for Best Buy Mobile (Partnership of Best Buy & Carphone Warehouse), and my statement might be biased.. however, AT&T doesn't insure it, and I wouldn't trust them on manufacturer warranties for the tilt. However, I know there are other options available for protecting your device

bambu456 said:
Whats the lastest way to fix the camera and video camera on this phone. The picture is like very choppy and unclear. I saw another tilt camera and it does the same thing. Any solutions.
Bonus Question Whats a ROM?
Don't laugh too hard. I'm just a freshman at this.
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i've found a solution to this. i will post in a day or so. you'll all be happy!

rzanology said:
i've found a solution to this. i will post in a day or so. you'll all be happy!
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wait, what!? without proper drivers, you were able to fix the cam??? FPS???

squaretrade lol
BBM-Lee said:
Just a note (and a plug), Best Buy's service plan will cover you bricking your phone
Note: I work for Best Buy Mobile (Partnership of Best Buy & Carphone Warehouse), and my statement might be biased.. however, AT&T doesn't insure it, and I wouldn't trust them on manufacturer warranties for the tilt. However, I know there are other options available for protecting your device
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Never actually had to use my warranty service, but square trade guarantees 5 day turnaround or they pay you your purchase price and warrant is I think 10% of your purchase price. I believe that it includes user stupidity; but, I can't be sure on that one.
Please hook up the camera fix. I tested out the nokia 5800 expressmusic vid at night in a parking lot in my car and man it was like a damn camcorder. Hook it up mah friend.
know of a good rom for my mom? Something simple? User friendly...? pm me ok.

This thread still poses NO solution to tilt camera problem
There are several things out there that I have tried and both of them caused me to not see anything before a picture was taken. In other words the viewer was black until I took a picture and it actually took the picture but I could not see anything in the viewer before pushing the button. Neither of the cab files I found solved this problem. After removing the programs, my camera was back to the sorry state it was in when it came out of the box. It's hard to believe that a PDA with as much going for it as the Tilt, has such a crumby camera. SOMEBODY FIND A WAY TO FIX THIS PLEASE

NormBo said:
There are several things out there that I have tried and both of them caused me to not see anything before a picture was taken. In other words the viewer was black until I took a picture and it actually took the picture but I could not see anything in the viewer before pushing the button. Neither of the cab files I found solved this problem. After removing the programs, my camera was back to the sorry state it was in when it came out of the box. It's hard to believe that a PDA with as much going for it as the Tilt, has such a crumby camera. SOMEBODY FIND A WAY TO FIX THIS PLEASE
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well it's true, my wifes sony er w580i with only 2mp camera takes a whole lot better pic than my tilt, no comparison.

some questions

Hey guys, I have been reading for a couple of hours on this forum and found some great info, but I'm still having some questions
1. dutty's rom, I've seen it on youtube, but is it actually faster than the normal rom? I mean, if you use tomtom by example, do you get better framerate on it?
2. if you put dutty's on, do you still get support from htc? like don't you void the warranty?
3. I've seen some original rom files, but if you put that on, doesn't it change the windows mobile license?
4. if you have dutty's, can you still copy contact info from msn into the contacts?
I have quite some experience with linux and windows programming, but to this mobile stuff, I'm totally a newbie
thanks

WPtE said:
Hey guys, I have been reading for a couple of hours on this forum and found some great info, but I'm still having some questions
1. dutty's rom, I've seen it on youtube, but is it actually faster than the normal rom? I mean, if you use tomtom by example, do you get better framerate on it?
2. if you put dutty's on, do you still get support from htc? like don't you void the warranty?
3. I've seen some original rom files, but if you put that on, doesn't it change the windows mobile license?
4. if you have dutty's, can you still copy contact info from msn into the contacts?
I have quite some experience with linux and windows programming, but to this mobile stuff, I'm totally a newbie
thanks
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Your best bet is to go to kaiser rom development sections and read the stickies there.
1. yes, its faster
2. u loose warranty, but there is a tutorial how to revert it to the original rom in case of warranty
3. ?
4. never used that, buut I think yes

at 3 I mean: When you get an original rom from the forums, does it give you a different windows license? or is that just something inside the phone itself?
and, if dutty's is faster, does that also mean a longer battery life? I read something about better video drivers
thanks for the answers
I probably go for the dutty's now I think

WPtE said:
at 3 I mean: When you get an original rom from the forums, does it give you a different windows license? or is that just something inside the phone itself?
and, if dutty's is faster, does that also mean a longer battery life? I read something about better video drivers
thanks for the answers
I probably go for the dutty's now I think
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battery life, reception, camera and some other things are influenced not by the rom, but by the radio rom.
Sorry but I dont understand what u mean by license. I am not from english-speaking country.

I don't think licensing is that big a deal with a phone. Infact I'm not sure if you can purchase a retail copy of windows mobile. These aren't home made computers.

ChumleyEX said:
I don't think licensing is that big a deal with a phone. Infact I'm not sure if you can purchase a retail copy of windows mobile. These aren't home made computers.
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aha, I understand now.

ChumleyEX said:
I don't think licensing is that big a deal with a phone. Infact I'm not sure if you can purchase a retail copy of windows mobile. These aren't home made computers.
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no you can't buy a retail package
but you can register the os tough
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I just found out there are more roms available (silly me)
can someone recommend me one?
I want better speed, but I like the normal rom shipped with the kaiser

This covers the HTC5800, yeah?

What can I do with this phone other then what it does out of the box?
Theres so little information and work I can find on it.

hey buddy,
there isnt alot of things that can be done with the phone right now.. which company do u have it from?
the first would be App Unlock your phone to be able to install applications .. jsut search on google "app unlock S620" and follow that procedure...
I have a wm6.0 running so i have a couple of skins and stuff installed... most of the stuff that can work on the Vox Forums can work on libra as well. besides the roms ofcourse.
if you got any other questions holla for sure... i know it was a pain for me to find any information on the phone!

Window Mobile 6.1 is out for this, at least for Verizon (SMT5800)

JoeQuality said:
Window Mobile 6.1 is out for this, at least for Verizon (SMT5800)
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Where did you get WM6.1 for VZW SMT5800 ?

MadHacker said:
Where did you get WM6.1 for VZW SMT5800 ?
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The download is located here...
http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=81&cid=1&mid=292&carrier=Verizon Wireless
surprised me too! the poor phone still doesn't have enough ram and is missing wifi, otherwise it would be perfect.

I just picked up one of these phones yesterday and am still getting used to not having a touch screen. If I'm not mistaken this phone does have the GPS. What's the process for getting it to work with Google Maps, etc?
Thanks

no this phone doesnt have gps....
it has the processor which is needed to have gps... but apparently it doesnt work with any company...
iv looked around for a fix .. but no one has found out one...
and 5800 doesnt have wifi built in either

AGPS vs Libra/s720
Sorry to contradict you, but hie phone has AGPS and it does work (I have it working right now)
To be sure we are talking of the s720/LIBRA 100.
Refer to this post and you will get all you need.
Cheers!

drjp99 said:
Sorry to contradict you, but hie phone has AGPS and it does work (I have it working right now)
To be sure we are talking of the s720/LIBRA 100.
Refer to this post and you will get all you need.
Cheers!
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What post? I want aGPS on mine!

WTF
drjp99 said:
Sorry to contradict you, but hie phone has AGPS and it does work (I have it working right now)
To be sure we are talking of the s720/LIBRA 100.
Refer to this post and you will get all you need.
Cheers!
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WHat I have AGPS on mine but I can't get it to locate anywhere

I have HTC Phone.i want one things that can be done with the phone for changing its look.I think it can be done while changing its skin.I think for this htc hero skins are best one....

angelina22 said:
I have HTC Phone.i want one things that can be done with the phone for changing its look.I think it can be done while changing its skin.I think for this htc hero skins are best one....
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You can find here angelina22 ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760055 just complete >>><<<

Camera is only Black

I changed to WM 6.5 last night. I had the AT&T 6.1 rom before.
With both ROMs, my camera is just black. Doesn't show anything at all (not even darkly.
Any ideas? It's probably not software if it doesn't change when I update the ROM right?
I don't care for 6.5 much, so I'm going to try another 6.1 rom in a minute...
Thanks

Your radio ROM is incorrect for whatever hardware/ROM revision you are using. Experiment around with different radios until you get one that allows your camera to work.

Nice of you to search for the oldest problem out there.

ashasaur said:
Your radio ROM is incorrect for whatever hardware/ROM revision you are using. Experiment around with different radios until you get one that allows your camera to work.
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Thanks. Its been awhile since I played with a Windows Mobile phone, so I'm a little rusty. I forgot that some software stayed even when the OS was changed... geee... so simple
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Nice of you to search for the oldest problem out there.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll just assume in the future that if I search and find nothing, that I must have used the wrong terms, and shouldn't bother asking in the future. Glad you saved me.
I did search. Now, when I searched "radio rom camera problem" (after the 1st response) I got tons of hits. When I searched "8925 camera is black only" I got nothing relevant. It's new to me.

Well, oddly enough, I encountered a much more serious problem with the ROM I was using, so I went back to 6.1 (I don't like 6.5 for some reason)
After loading the AT&T 6.1 rom, the camera works...

Thats because the ATT ROM has an included radio, which evidentally is one that works with your hardware revision and enables the camera.

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Thats because the ATT ROM has an included radio, which evidentally is one that works with your hardware revision and enables the camera.
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Ok- So Radio rom can be flashed with or without the OS rom? Good to know.
The radio rom has to match the hardware? Or the OS?
I'd like to give the WM6.5 rom another try, if I can get everything to work

RoastGecko said:
Ok- So Radio rom can be flashed with or without the OS rom? Good to know.
The radio rom has to match the hardware? Or the OS?
I'd like to give the WM6.5 rom another try, if I can get everything to work
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Time for some reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182

denco7 said:
Time for some reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
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Believe me, I know
I've got so many XDA threads open in tabs that I'm surprised it'll let me open more
Alot of the stuff I'm reading I'm remembering some of... it's been along time... lots of "oh yeah...!" moments... I want to be making my own roms in no time.. I guess I'm a few years late to the party... sad that they are killing Windows Mobile...

RoastGecko said:
I guess I'm a few years late to the party... sad that they are killing Windows Mobile...
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A couple years late to the Kaiser party, but I still love my Kaiser and it my not be as flashy and my be a tick slower and may not have the spacious screen that the HD2 has, but with a custom rom and a little tweaking, it does everything An HD2 does, and I love my keyboard.
Windows Mobile isn't dead, it was just taking a long vacation while Steve and Bill and the others were playing the " fat cat " billionaire roles to the hilt while the company went down the toilet.
Hopefully Windows Phone 7 series is the start of a resurgence that will integrate Windows, Windows Mobile, Zune OS and XBox into a fully integrated powerhouse, before it is too late.
Maybe Apple overtaking them is exactly what they need.

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Thanks. Its been awhile since I played with a Windows Mobile phone, so I'm a little rusty. I forgot that some software stayed even when the OS was changed... geee... so simple
Thanks for the advice. I'll just assume in the future that if I search and find nothing, that I must have used the wrong terms, and shouldn't bother asking in the future. Glad you saved me.
I did search. Now, when I searched "radio rom camera problem" (after the 1st response) I got tons of hits. When I searched "8925 camera is black only" I got nothing relevant. It's new to me.
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It was also on the rom flashing tutorial
7. After I flash a Rom I dont have any sound in calls and the camera is black
The Radio has to match the version of Rom you flash i.e. WM6.1, an incorrect Radio will give sound and camera problems. Read The Ultimate Radio Thread to find a Radio that matches the Rom there are lots to try on there if one doesnt work then try another.
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what's up Denco

ChumleyEX said:
It was also on the rom flashing tutorial
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Being no stranger to flashing roms on any of the dozen WM devices I've had over the years, I didn't bother to read a tutorial.
The only reason I ran in here and asked, was I recieved the phone in the mail that day. I needed to know if I needed to send it back.
Now, I need to go get back to fixing my 8525 for the misses....