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Pretty much every store on Tott Court Road has some in stock...

They're selling between £480-£500. They won't go lower than £470, which some say is the internet price (they've done their homework).
Got mine for £350 by paying cash and giving in my Vario II. Just gave in the handset on the spot (no accessories, no nothing). That shop was pretty dodgy and I might have gotten more if I ebayed the TyTN but I couldn't be bothered.
Gonna play with it now and post my impressions in a bit. Mainly TyTN vs TyTN notes if anything. I'm suspecting this isn't a worthwhile upgrade unless you have money to waste, but we'll see.

hmmm.. wonder how much id get off the price if I handed in my Touch...

jamijam said:
They're selling between £480-£500. They won't go lower than £470, which some say is the internet price (they've done their homework).
Got mine for £350 by paying cash and giving in my Vario II. Just gave in the handset on the spot (no accessories, no nothing). That shop was pretty dodgy and I might have gotten more if I ebayed the TyTN but I couldn't be bothered.
Gonna play with it now and post my impressions in a bit. Mainly TyTN vs TyTN notes if anything. I'm suspecting this isn't a worthwhile upgrade unless you have money to waste, but we'll see.
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WHICH SHOPS ON TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD ARE SELLING THE TYTN II?

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WHICH SHOPS ON TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD ARE SELLING THE TYTN II?
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All of them! Just get out of the station and start walking down the street on the right. You'll see the box showcased in most windows...

I'd go for Inkino if I were you. I've dealt with them many times, and they're good in there. They'll let you play around with the devices for ages before you buy, and they're pretty helpful and knowledgable.
The shop has an Inkino "sandwich board" outside it but I can't remember the exact name above the door...

Bought mine from Inkino too. They are good and so far the only store I know that actually knows a lot about the devices they are selling. Will go back there.

inkino
yup they are knowladgeble however my tytn II didnt send me in 2 two days,so i am waiting but they have to be quick for my pleasure also the tytn II box include the case however inkino site doesnt say anything of the ''include box''.. i ordered also the case but now i cancel the opereatiıon, i am waiting but how long... rrrrrrrrrrrr
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How much is a Vodafone branded Kaiser worth?

Just wondering...
Picked up a new V1615 (Vodafone Kaiser) from a Vodafone store just now because that's all they could offer me.
I really, really want an Mwg Atom V (details) or Atom Life which has some amazing specs (details) instead though.
So I want to sell the Vodafone brand new boxed and unopened, SIM free and unlocked.
What kind of price can I expect for it?
Thanks

Its worth as much as a standard Kaiser probably, and a bit more than an AT&T Tilt. But the main place for selling phones is eBay; so prices vary widely. You can probably get upwards of $650 for it.
You do know that in some respects the Kaiser beats the pants off that Atom thingy? For one thing, it has a keyboard. It also has GPS and a 3.1MP camera instead of a 2.0MP. There is also a much larger ROM community for the HTC phones than for the Atom.

Jozer99 said:
Its worth as much as a standard Kaiser probably, and a bit more than an AT&T Tilt. But the main place for selling phones is eBay; so prices vary widely. You can probably get upwards of $650 for it.
You do know that in some respects the Kaiser beats the pants off that Atom thingy? For one thing, it has a keyboard. It also has GPS and a 3.1MP camera instead of a 2.0MP. There is also a much larger ROM community for the HTC phones than for the Atom.
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Hmmm...I agree with some of what you say about the Atoms now after doing some more research.
One thing that's struck me is the customer service feedback about the Atom's manufacturers. Very few have anything nice to say about the service they received if something went wrong with their device. I'd be in fear of ever needing them.
The main things that have attracted me to the Atom phones so far is the use of Intel Xscale chips, better video support and the use of Sirfstar III chipsets for GPS. I don't need a high spec camera so I'm not bothered by the lack of high pixel capture.
In my experience of using old HTC devices (Universal, Magician) and some new ones (Trinity / P3600 and Kaiser), the older ones seemed faster for some reason. I don't know for sure but the Intel architecture seems better than the Qualcomm.
Also, the Sirfstar III GPS hardware wipes the floor with Qualcomm's equivalents in my experience and doesn't need QuickGPS to get a very fast lock in a built up city like London where I live.
Why did HTC start using these dodgy Qualcomm chips?
I'm still undecided...I just hate waiting with computers / PDAs etc...They should just work, and work fast. Maybe I'm asking for too much.

Anymore opinions?

You in the UK? Is the V1615 on contract?
Not impressed by those Atoms...

-IK- said:
Just wondering...
Picked up a new V1615 (Vodafone Kaiser) from a Vodafone store just now because that's all they could offer me.
I really, really want an Mwg Atom V (details) or Atom Life which has some amazing specs (details) instead though.
So I want to sell the Vodafone brand new boxed and unopened, SIM free and unlocked.
What kind of price can I expect for it?
Thanks
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That's all they could offer? You have got to be kidding, there isnt a better phone on voda, and you must pay silly amounts monthly to get that offered to you.
also, note, the vodafone one is unlocked from factory.
Though i did manage to pick one up for £20 a month on my contract for an upgrade, free! but i have a hell of a business head when it comes to negotiating!

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That's all they could offer? You have got to be kidding, there isnt a better phone on voda, and you must pay silly amounts monthly to get that offered to you.
also, note, the vodafone one is unlocked from factory.
Though i did manage to pick one up for £20 a month on my contract for an upgrade, free! but i have a hell of a business head when it comes to negotiating!
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heh heh
I meant that's all they could offer me in terms of high spec PDAs and I wasn't interested in Blackberrys.
I pay about £45 a month on my contract, but it is an 18 month one. Not bad, but then I've been with Voda for almost 10 years now.
Anyway....I've seen them go on ebay for around £350. Tempted to sell...Still not sure...Still haven't opened the box.
So noone really recommends the Mwgs? If that's the case then I don't really have any other options and I'll just use the Kaiser.
Maybe one day someone will find out how to enable all the great hardware inside the case

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heh heh
I meant that's all they could offer me in terms of high spec PDAs and I wasn't interested in Blackberrys.
I pay about £45 a month on my contract, but it is an 18 month one. Not bad, but then I've been with Voda for almost 10 years now.
Anyway....I've seen them go on ebay for around £350. Tempted to sell...Still not sure...Still haven't opened the box.
So noone really recommends the Mwgs? If that's the case then I don't really have any other options and I'll just use the Kaiser.
Maybe one day someone will find out how to enable all the great hardware inside the case
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I was gonna say! the kaiser isnt that bad mate, i havent come accross one issue with regards to graphics, plus, got a kiddies psp for games!!, sat nav works faultlessly, good quality phone, my battery life is fine. Keep it
If not, ebay mate, your best bet, but watch vodafone dont pick up on it, as it is "actually" theirs unitl youve paid your years contract off etc.

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If not, ebay mate, your best bet, but watch vodafone dont pick up on it, as it is "actually" theirs unitl youve paid your years contract off etc.
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No it's not - it's 100% your property, and your problem. That's not conditional on anything. The contract debt is separate - you owe them the value of that regardless of what you do with the phone. Sell it, keep it, give it back to them, you still owe the contract sum whatever you do.

selling phone
sell htc
wait 4/5 months
go get sony xperia ..
simple
or
have a look at the glofish 800 series

Some questions about the Tytn 2 :)

hi guys, 1st post =)
I have a few q.s about the Tytn 2 before I decide to buy one ..
1. General opinions about the handset? I'm looking for a new gadget to play with and having used my friend's Tytn 2 this seems to be a worthy contender.
2. Do the Touch Diamond/Pro offer much over the Tytn 2 for the extra cost? Is it a good idea to buy the Tytn 2 2nd hand as people upgrade their handsets to newer models?
3. If i do buy a Tytn 2 I will likely buy one off ebay, unless anyone can suggest anywhere else in the Uk where I can get one cheaper. How much is a realistic price to pay for a Tytn 2 now? Used or new?
thanks!

wiki reading time
Mitch92uK said:
1. General opinions about the handset? I'm looking for a new gadget to play with and having used my friend's Tytn 2 this seems to be a worthy contender.
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If you're looking for something with all the bells and whistles to play with, there's not much better and there's nothing that offers the same combination of features. I find the tilting screen very useful when watching videos on the train.
2. Do the Touch Diamond/Pro offer much over the Tytn 2 for the extra cost? Is it a good idea to buy the Tytn 2 2nd hand as people upgrade their handsets to newer models?
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I only have a UK bought HTC TyTN II so cant compare. Does the Touch Diamond/Pro have a tiltable screen (to angle it right when watching videos)? What about expandable microSD memory capability? What do you want it for (other than 'playing with')?
I guess it depends how much risk is involved in the 2nd hand purchase as to whether that’s a good idea. These phones do have some known 'issues' one of which is that the USB port can be susceptible to failure under certain circumstances and you can't really tell until you've tested it under Activesync and tried charging it a few times if that works well. I was in a phone shop a few weeks back when a very angry customer who'd bought his 2nd hand TyTN II there began to tear strips off the shopkeeper. His phone seemed to have a faulty USB port but it also looked as if it'd had a new casing at some stage too - who knows what horrors the poor thing had endured? You need to really know what you're looking at if you buy 2nd hand. If you're not a seasoned veteran, it's safer buying new.
3. If i do buy a Tytn 2 I will likely buy one off ebay, unless anyone can suggest anywhere else in the UK where I can get one cheaper. How much is a realistic price to pay for a Tytn 2 now? Used or new?
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I got my HTC Branded TyTN II back at the end of September 07 and from memory it was about £160 with a 12 month £35 for 500 mins/500 texts Vodafone contract. The company I bought it from is no longer trading and prices have come down since then (especially so if you want a carrier branded variant - they weren't even around back then). Do some research on the net and in phone shops - in the end it's you who has to be satisfied with what you're getting. As it's your first post, you'll need to read the wiki here too - compulsory reading for all newcomers!

What about a HTC Universal/XDA Exec/MDA 5000 as a cheaper option?

What about researching. No one can tell you what one to by. I usually live by this motto.
If reading the specs of a phone doesn't get you excited. you Will loose interest in your "new phone" fast.

Need to replace my Wizard

Any reason not to buy a new Kaiser off eBay? Still seems to have decent specs for today's market ...
Anything to look out for, buying via eBay?

The only thing that comes to mind is w/the Fuze (AKA HTC Touch Pro) coming "soon" and news of the upcoming HTC Touch HD already, pricing on Kaiser/Tilt should be coming down as people will probably start dumping them.

I've seen them marked down to 100, with a new contract. Although they will start going down as the new models are coming in quite soon.
I'm enjoying this phone a lot, over an iPhone xD

Pretty much needed a phone ASAP, so I went with a TyTnII off eBay for $330+$9 in shipping:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170263424688#
That's half of what it was going for 5 months ago.
Almost went Touch Dual, but I really prefer the full keyboard for my SSH work, and of course for SMS/email.

Worth buying?

Hello. I wonder if this phone is still worth buying. There's a guy selling it for 1200 Swedish crownes (~180USD). If I get it right there's even Android for it with a complete FroYo build. Im moving from a Samsung Spica, an androidphone. Do you guys think I will be dissapointed of the performance of the Tytn II? Also, does it have Android Market?

There is no way I would spend 180 US on the tilt nor the kaiser.

ChumleyEX said:
There is no way I would spend 180 US on the tilt nor the kaiser.
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Why? (ten chars, lalalalal)

Because the phone isn't worth it, IMO the phone isn't worth much at all. There are too many good used phones out there that are much better than this phone.
better phone
http://cgi.ebay.com/AT-T-TOUCH-PRO-...Cell_Phones&hash=item41537898cb#ht_2156wt_926

ololizoz said:
Hello. I wonder if this phone is still worth buying. There's a guy selling it for 1200 Swedish crownes (~180USD). If I get it right there's even Android for it with a complete FroYo build. Im moving from a Samsung Spica, an androidphone. Do you guys think I will be dissapointed of the performance of the Tytn II? Also, does it have Android Market?
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Are you serious ? A Spica to a Kaiser is a BIG time down grade. Why would you want a " hacked " android OS over a native one. A smaller res screen, a slower processor etc....etc...etc. Upgrade to another Galaxy series phone.
Don't take a time machine back to 2007.

Found some around $70
I know many would recommend other phones over the Kaiser/Tilt one, but personally I don't have the funds to buy one of those. I can pick up nice nearly mint Tilts on Ebay for around $70 to $80.

Definately not worth that much. The TyTN II is a 3 year old phone, which in that market is about ancient, considering a completely new generation is released like every 6 months. I bought mine 2 years ago for 250 euro which I already found a pretty steep price at the time. Paying even more than half that now, two years later, is just rip off.
I think it'd be worth like 100-125 euro/dollar nowadays. I'm pretty sure you can ge a newer HTC device like a Touch Pro2 for 180 dollar if you browse well. On my Dutch second hand website I can find Touch Pro2's for 170-250 euros.

I think it's way to much. I bought myself a second hand Tytn II last week for just 70 euro's. And it is in pretty good condition. Over here in Belgium you can find a diamond pro for 150-180 euro's.

ololizoz said:
Hello. I wonder if this phone is still worth buying. There's a guy selling it for 1200 Swedish crownes (~180USD). If I get it right there's even Android for it with a complete FroYo build. Im moving from a Samsung Spica, an androidphone. Do you guys think I will be dissapointed of the performance of the Tytn II? Also, does it have Android Market?
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I'll sell you one for for SEK 800 if you want it.. Android Froyo installed (with Android Market)..