Some questions about the Tytn 2 :) - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

hi guys, 1st post =)
I have a few q.s about the Tytn 2 before I decide to buy one ..
1. General opinions about the handset? I'm looking for a new gadget to play with and having used my friend's Tytn 2 this seems to be a worthy contender.
2. Do the Touch Diamond/Pro offer much over the Tytn 2 for the extra cost? Is it a good idea to buy the Tytn 2 2nd hand as people upgrade their handsets to newer models?
3. If i do buy a Tytn 2 I will likely buy one off ebay, unless anyone can suggest anywhere else in the Uk where I can get one cheaper. How much is a realistic price to pay for a Tytn 2 now? Used or new?
thanks!

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Mitch92uK said:
1. General opinions about the handset? I'm looking for a new gadget to play with and having used my friend's Tytn 2 this seems to be a worthy contender.
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If you're looking for something with all the bells and whistles to play with, there's not much better and there's nothing that offers the same combination of features. I find the tilting screen very useful when watching videos on the train.
2. Do the Touch Diamond/Pro offer much over the Tytn 2 for the extra cost? Is it a good idea to buy the Tytn 2 2nd hand as people upgrade their handsets to newer models?
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I only have a UK bought HTC TyTN II so cant compare. Does the Touch Diamond/Pro have a tiltable screen (to angle it right when watching videos)? What about expandable microSD memory capability? What do you want it for (other than 'playing with')?
I guess it depends how much risk is involved in the 2nd hand purchase as to whether that’s a good idea. These phones do have some known 'issues' one of which is that the USB port can be susceptible to failure under certain circumstances and you can't really tell until you've tested it under Activesync and tried charging it a few times if that works well. I was in a phone shop a few weeks back when a very angry customer who'd bought his 2nd hand TyTN II there began to tear strips off the shopkeeper. His phone seemed to have a faulty USB port but it also looked as if it'd had a new casing at some stage too - who knows what horrors the poor thing had endured? You need to really know what you're looking at if you buy 2nd hand. If you're not a seasoned veteran, it's safer buying new.
3. If i do buy a Tytn 2 I will likely buy one off ebay, unless anyone can suggest anywhere else in the UK where I can get one cheaper. How much is a realistic price to pay for a Tytn 2 now? Used or new?
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I got my HTC Branded TyTN II back at the end of September 07 and from memory it was about £160 with a 12 month £35 for 500 mins/500 texts Vodafone contract. The company I bought it from is no longer trading and prices have come down since then (especially so if you want a carrier branded variant - they weren't even around back then). Do some research on the net and in phone shops - in the end it's you who has to be satisfied with what you're getting. As it's your first post, you'll need to read the wiki here too - compulsory reading for all newcomers!

What about a HTC Universal/XDA Exec/MDA 5000 as a cheaper option?

What about researching. No one can tell you what one to by. I usually live by this motto.
If reading the specs of a phone doesn't get you excited. you Will loose interest in your "new phone" fast.

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Where to buy this phone (s730) at low price??

I'm looking for this phone (s730) at lower price.. i need number 2 devices.. who can make me better price? thank you!
goolpone said:
I'm looking for this phone (s730) at lower price.. i need number 2 devices.. who can make me better price? thank you!
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http://www.katshing.se/prod/prod.asp?aid=15307&ref=prisjakt 3 599 SEK = 545,34 $ = 374,82 €
@goolpone: It also depends on where do you come from: Africa, Asia, Usa, Europe? ;-)
geaerally? eBay my friend.
I'm italian, is there any body who want to sell his/her s730?.. i need 2 devices for $500/$520.. sameone?..
I found many people selling it through "second hand" stores in our country. Try to do the same with google focused on your country area with keywords / sell HTC s730 price / of course in your native language (sell, price).
goolpone said:
i need 2 devices for $500/$520..
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So you want someone to sell you 2 phones that retail for around $500-550 new for the price of one? The European model has only been out for a few months and AFAIK not picked up by networks yet.
I think you need to either set your price higher or wait for network upgrades to filter on the market. It's when people get 'free' or heavily subsidised phones they don't need that second-hand deals start becoming attractive.
But good luck!
goolpone said:
i need 2 devices for $500/$520.. sameone?..
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Sure hope thats each, unless someone got theirs for free no one would sell two for what they payed for one, and if it was a pre - prod unit...
but there are not carreer like vodafone, o2, cingular that sell it for a contract? and sameone that coul resell it? i know it's possible and yet done
Did you try my recommendation? I found the second hand phones (one month old = warranty) on 500 dollars level in CZ. I think that in your country you will find the same. There are many people disillusioned by RAM, ATI drivers, GPS lacks.
For a new phone such as this, you'd perhaps be better off trying on ebay
Do not forget that price on ebay is sometimes "penalized" by paying also the TAX and VAT to your custom.
My S730 is brandnew and im already so fed up with it.
Im going to sell it on ebay in the comming days.
I will also post the link to the auction on this forum for you to use.
It means that you are not satisfied by s730 and you will switch to different producer? As f.e. jocky.d? If yes, I have some favorites.
share your favorites then roomish....as I too am getting annoyed with my S730 and ebay is calling
It is so pitty - S730 could be so cool smartphone.
Well my favorites:
Asus P750 - although it has only 64MB - the free memory is about 20MB, the phone is handy sized
iPAQ 614c - very cheap, little bigger
I-mate 8502 - qwerty keyboard
All models are on the market only few days.
I've only had this thing since last week and I think I'm going to return it. The memory leak is horrible, not to mention there isn't enough of it to begin with. If I browse to a non-mobile url using IE, the browser closes since there isn't enough memory! The keyboard is slow and if I type fast, misses letters and I have to go back. A few times I have placed calls and they route through the speaker phone even though I haven't activated it and the entire phone locks up. Don't buy this phone, it sucks. I should have bought a Tytn II, at least then I would have working GPS.
I was after something a little smaller but with features.....
I liked the size of my old C600 but obviously you get more the bigger you get :s
and does anyone want to buy an S730?
4sale HTC S730
HTC S730 for sale.
12 month old contract is running out (I am changing the company I am working for)- fully working with 2GB SD Card
VB 220€
[email protected]
Was bought in October 2007. There is still 1 year garantie on it till October 2008.
Sold for 284,38. Thanks
12 months old? It must be preproduction model!?

Lost Kaiser need New Phone

I lost my T-Mobile Kaiser a couple of weeks ago and am using my lovely Universal at the moment but I need to get something smaller.
What's the best value on the market at the moment?
It has to be unlocked because I have 12 months left on my flex web and walk!
The Kaiser is around £470 unlocked which I can't afford
I want
Good battery life
3G
HSDPA
Bluetooth
GPS
Wifi
WM 6
Mobile Office
Smallish
Lightweight
Camera (but this is low priority)
Yes I know I want it all but hey!
I have looked at the Asus P750 as the best fit so far and it seems to have good reviews.
HP 614, read about that too, but it said it had a poor feel to it (build quality)
Also read about the MWg Atom V
Any thoughts?
I am guessing you are in the UK. You might want to consider whether your household contents insurance covers you for loss of personal property (mine doesn't, my parents does). Guess you'll have to weigh it up between new phone and excess/no-claims loss.
Otherwise, you *might* want to consider buying a Hermes/Trion/Vario 2 second hand. These are not entirely dissimilar to the Kaiser and go for £100 to £150 on ebay, but they do not have GPS built in, so you'd have to buy an external device. For comparison, last I saw Kaisers were going for over £300 on ebay.
Hope that helps.
Surely insurance or warranty will cover a lost phone?
Funny you should ask this, cos a few days ago THIS THREAD was posted about a guy who'd basically found/stole a Kaiser, could it be....?
kaiser
im selling mine, im the uk, im looking for around half that price - around 260.

How much is a Vodafone branded Kaiser worth?

Just wondering...
Picked up a new V1615 (Vodafone Kaiser) from a Vodafone store just now because that's all they could offer me.
I really, really want an Mwg Atom V (details) or Atom Life which has some amazing specs (details) instead though.
So I want to sell the Vodafone brand new boxed and unopened, SIM free and unlocked.
What kind of price can I expect for it?
Thanks
Its worth as much as a standard Kaiser probably, and a bit more than an AT&T Tilt. But the main place for selling phones is eBay; so prices vary widely. You can probably get upwards of $650 for it.
You do know that in some respects the Kaiser beats the pants off that Atom thingy? For one thing, it has a keyboard. It also has GPS and a 3.1MP camera instead of a 2.0MP. There is also a much larger ROM community for the HTC phones than for the Atom.
Jozer99 said:
Its worth as much as a standard Kaiser probably, and a bit more than an AT&T Tilt. But the main place for selling phones is eBay; so prices vary widely. You can probably get upwards of $650 for it.
You do know that in some respects the Kaiser beats the pants off that Atom thingy? For one thing, it has a keyboard. It also has GPS and a 3.1MP camera instead of a 2.0MP. There is also a much larger ROM community for the HTC phones than for the Atom.
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Hmmm...I agree with some of what you say about the Atoms now after doing some more research.
One thing that's struck me is the customer service feedback about the Atom's manufacturers. Very few have anything nice to say about the service they received if something went wrong with their device. I'd be in fear of ever needing them.
The main things that have attracted me to the Atom phones so far is the use of Intel Xscale chips, better video support and the use of Sirfstar III chipsets for GPS. I don't need a high spec camera so I'm not bothered by the lack of high pixel capture.
In my experience of using old HTC devices (Universal, Magician) and some new ones (Trinity / P3600 and Kaiser), the older ones seemed faster for some reason. I don't know for sure but the Intel architecture seems better than the Qualcomm.
Also, the Sirfstar III GPS hardware wipes the floor with Qualcomm's equivalents in my experience and doesn't need QuickGPS to get a very fast lock in a built up city like London where I live.
Why did HTC start using these dodgy Qualcomm chips?
I'm still undecided...I just hate waiting with computers / PDAs etc...They should just work, and work fast. Maybe I'm asking for too much.
Anymore opinions?
You in the UK? Is the V1615 on contract?
Not impressed by those Atoms...
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Just wondering...
Picked up a new V1615 (Vodafone Kaiser) from a Vodafone store just now because that's all they could offer me.
I really, really want an Mwg Atom V (details) or Atom Life which has some amazing specs (details) instead though.
So I want to sell the Vodafone brand new boxed and unopened, SIM free and unlocked.
What kind of price can I expect for it?
Thanks
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That's all they could offer? You have got to be kidding, there isnt a better phone on voda, and you must pay silly amounts monthly to get that offered to you.
also, note, the vodafone one is unlocked from factory.
Though i did manage to pick one up for £20 a month on my contract for an upgrade, free! but i have a hell of a business head when it comes to negotiating!
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That's all they could offer? You have got to be kidding, there isnt a better phone on voda, and you must pay silly amounts monthly to get that offered to you.
also, note, the vodafone one is unlocked from factory.
Though i did manage to pick one up for £20 a month on my contract for an upgrade, free! but i have a hell of a business head when it comes to negotiating!
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heh heh
I meant that's all they could offer me in terms of high spec PDAs and I wasn't interested in Blackberrys.
I pay about £45 a month on my contract, but it is an 18 month one. Not bad, but then I've been with Voda for almost 10 years now.
Anyway....I've seen them go on ebay for around £350. Tempted to sell...Still not sure...Still haven't opened the box.
So noone really recommends the Mwgs? If that's the case then I don't really have any other options and I'll just use the Kaiser.
Maybe one day someone will find out how to enable all the great hardware inside the case
-IK- said:
heh heh
I meant that's all they could offer me in terms of high spec PDAs and I wasn't interested in Blackberrys.
I pay about £45 a month on my contract, but it is an 18 month one. Not bad, but then I've been with Voda for almost 10 years now.
Anyway....I've seen them go on ebay for around £350. Tempted to sell...Still not sure...Still haven't opened the box.
So noone really recommends the Mwgs? If that's the case then I don't really have any other options and I'll just use the Kaiser.
Maybe one day someone will find out how to enable all the great hardware inside the case
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I was gonna say! the kaiser isnt that bad mate, i havent come accross one issue with regards to graphics, plus, got a kiddies psp for games!!, sat nav works faultlessly, good quality phone, my battery life is fine. Keep it
If not, ebay mate, your best bet, but watch vodafone dont pick up on it, as it is "actually" theirs unitl youve paid your years contract off etc.
flashy said:
If not, ebay mate, your best bet, but watch vodafone dont pick up on it, as it is "actually" theirs unitl youve paid your years contract off etc.
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No it's not - it's 100% your property, and your problem. That's not conditional on anything. The contract debt is separate - you owe them the value of that regardless of what you do with the phone. Sell it, keep it, give it back to them, you still owe the contract sum whatever you do.
selling phone
sell htc
wait 4/5 months
go get sony xperia ..
simple
or
have a look at the glofish 800 series

htc tytn II for sale

htc kaiser for sale - $350
comes with original box, app cd, manual, sync cable, 1gb microSD, flashed with a 6.1 rom,
has had screen protector quite literally from the moment i took it out of the box.
came with european charger, i'll throw in the motorola charger i've been using + car charger and car windshield mount(see: http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42435/HTC+TyTN+II+Deluxe+Dashboard+Mount.html, white pocket solutions case with clip(see http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42360/HTC+TyTN+II+White+Diplomat+Series+Case.html
original htc case, blue clear case (see: http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-43906/HTC+TyTN+II+Blue+Crystal+Clear+Case.html
brand new pack of 3 styli specifically for the tytn II
if i think of anything else i'll add it later
the phone does have a few scratches along the edge of the casing but the phone works flawlessly, right now i have no pics, and honestly the scratches wouldn't be visible in a picture anyways. you already know all the specs on this phone so i'm not going to list those. it is this HTC tytn II as i mentioned before not the att tilt or any other variety
i will ship(on me) usps with insurance unless otherwise specified
email me at [email protected] for questions/offers
i accept paypal only
when i post to ebay i'll add the link here
here's the ebay link with pictures!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170229041118
just sent you an email.
Treat this post as a standard disclaimer and it is NOT aimed specifically at this seller.
If you buy any device from any member having seen it for sale on XDA-Developers; then you do so at your own risk. It is entirely up to you to ascertain if the description of the device is accurate and the offer genuine. You are not covered / protected in any way by XDA-Developers and XDA-Developers has not checked or authorized the sale of any device on these forums.
@ the OP
Please inform us if it is successfully sold so that we may close this thread at the appropriate time.
@ everyone else
I deleted the posts that were hijacking this thread. I hope you guys understand.
Thank you for understanding
Hello All,
This is just to inform you all that this phone is now sold since I have just purchased it on ebay.
This will be my second Kaiser, and I have to admit that I am very happy with it. I had a Herald before, and the Kaiser is a distinct improvement.
Thanks to all on this site who provide such good advice!! And thanks for helping me find a new phone for my wife!!
nebc100
How come no one wants to purchase my phone, although its been advertised for longer?
Sorry, 246810. I didn't see that your phone was for sale, and also, although your phone if probably a cheaper offer (if you look at what you are giving with it), I wanted the HTC model not the MDA version because I already have an HTC model myself and I don't want to have two different versions of the same phone.
Sorry!!!
P.S. I might have a Herald for sale when the Kaiser arrives as my wife currently has a Herald and she might not want it any more. Anyone interested?
P.P.S. I regulary send older models to the Philippines (my wife is from the Philippines) as charity as they cannot afford such phones there. If anyone has any of the older models (so far I have sent Wizards and a couple of Universals) and would be willing to donate them to charity (I don't make any money from this at all), please PM me. THANKS!!!!
Hey 246810.
Maybe you should reduce your price a bit to get more interest. Your Phone is a T-mobile branded TYTN so will not have the look of the original TYTN from HTC Which may put some poeple off a bit.
I recently had the opportunity to purchase a MDA vario 3 for £200 brand-new and never used but my heart was set on an orginal looking one. A week later I managed to get an orange branded one with a HTC replacement battery cover £250.
I'm not saying yours isn't a bad offer. But maybe the price is a bit too much for what it is.
Hope you find luck selling it.
nebc100 said:
Sorry, 246810. I didn't see that your phone was for sale, and also, although your phone if probably a cheaper offer (if you look at what you are giving with it), I wanted the HTC model not the MDA version because I already have an HTC model myself and I don't want to have two different versions of the same phone.
Sorry!!!
P.S. I might have a Herald for sale when the Kaiser arrives as my wife currently has a Herald and she might not want it any more. Anyone interested?
P.P.S. I regulary send older models to the Philippines (my wife is from the Philippines) as charity as they cannot afford such phones there. If anyone has any of the older models (so far I have sent Wizards and a couple of Universals) and would be willing to donate them to charity (I don't make any money from this at all), please PM me. THANKS!!!!
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Yep, I have a thread advertising my phone. I'm still waiting for my paypal set up to come through and then I will put in on Ebay. Mine is brand new as well and hasn't even be switched on and comes with all you need.
Good luck with your herald- quite personally I don't see myself purchasing a Windws Mobile phone again in a very long time...
just great...
246810 said:
How come no one wants to purchase my phone, although its been advertised for longer?
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Cause I have no way of getting to London, lol. If you wanna fly to the US and sell it face to face let me know
wshader said:
Cause I have no way of getting to London, lol. If you wanna fly to the US and sell it face to face let me know
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Lol. Okay, point made. If there is a buyer in London, UK then I am willing to meet face to face as this is the safest method for both the buyer and seller. I really do want to get rid of it however, and when my Paypal is sorted out shortly, you can purchase it by paypal if you're interested?....
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Lol. Okay, point made. If there is a buyer in London, UK then I am willing to meet face to face as this is the safest method for both the buyer and seller. I really do want to get rid of it however, and when my Paypal is sorted out shortly, you can purchase it by paypal if you're interested?....
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Thats what 550-600USD? Not really, can almost buy a diamond for that price and an att tilt for half of that
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Thats what 550-600USD? Not really, can almost buy a diamond for that price and an att tilt for half of that
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May I ask if you can buy it for this price brand new? I do find it hard to believe that you can purchase a new Diamond for around £290. Who are you purchasing them from? Cuboosh?...
Also, keep in mind that it comes with 4 cases, two of which are the boxwave clear active case and Siedo's case, and two leather cases, Sony Bluetooth headphones in good condition, along with a virtually unused very compact Bluetooth keyboard that I purchased off Expansys for £60/$120.
not to hijack the thread or anything, but just to let you know, that most people dont really care about that stuff. i wouldnt pay extra for a bluetooth keyboard. why would i need it??? hah 4 cases??!!! one is more than enough. just letting you know why you're having problems selling it so far. maybe try selling that stuff separately??

Need to replace my Wizard

Any reason not to buy a new Kaiser off eBay? Still seems to have decent specs for today's market ...
Anything to look out for, buying via eBay?
The only thing that comes to mind is w/the Fuze (AKA HTC Touch Pro) coming "soon" and news of the upcoming HTC Touch HD already, pricing on Kaiser/Tilt should be coming down as people will probably start dumping them.
I've seen them marked down to 100, with a new contract. Although they will start going down as the new models are coming in quite soon.
I'm enjoying this phone a lot, over an iPhone xD
Pretty much needed a phone ASAP, so I went with a TyTnII off eBay for $330+$9 in shipping:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170263424688#
That's half of what it was going for 5 months ago.
Almost went Touch Dual, but I really prefer the full keyboard for my SSH work, and of course for SMS/email.

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