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This is the most appropriate location I could find to post this, as I have three HTC devices (8525, TyTN 2, and Advantage) so I thought I would start here.
Issue:
I can no longer connect to my Slingbox on my home network when using my MediaNet (wap.cingular) connection on the TyTN 2 or the Advantage.
Error Message: Cannot connect using these settings. But email and web work from the MediaNet settings, so I am fairly certain the configuration is correct.
Facts:
- The connection works over Wifi on either HTC device, so I know my Slingplayer Mobile settings (Finder ID, etc.) are correct.
- The connection works using a Verzion Motorola Q. My corporate VPN connection also does not work with AT&T, but does on the Q through Verzion.
Conclusion:
AT&T has (or did) make changes to the proxy used which prevents services running on certain ports from working correctly.
Question:
Is anyone else having problems connecting to their Slingbox? If you can connect, what settings are you using?
Additionally, could someone please explain the differences between the wap.cingular and isp.cingular settings? Do you have to use isp.cingular to get VPN and other advanced services to work? If so, what is the minimum data plan you must subscribe to with AT&T to be able to do so?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
I cant say why you are having issues. My Slingbox connection works fine (actually much better than fine) via my Kaiser on AT&T with MediaNet. It works better than it ever did with my 8525. I do notice that I do have 2 separate Connections, one for MEdiaNet and the other called "My ISP" which both point to the same wap.cingular APN. Not sure why I have 2, but everything works fine. The MediaNet one is "hidden" and I can't change it. The My ISP one is visible, but I don't want to delete it since everything seems to work fine. It just switches between them (albeit unnecessarily) to make things work when needed.
Furthermore, I am using wap.cingular exclusively. If you do connect to a VPN, you must use isp.cingular. The normal MediaMax, MediaNet and smartphone plans give you wap.cingular. The PDA plans give you isp.cingular. Blackberry plans may give you neither (they go to blackberry.net).
Thanks
Can I ask what port # you are using for your Slingbox? I am using 5001 for one of mine. Did you have to make a rule entry in your router or firewall? I am just trying to determine why suddenly I cannot connect. I am going to pop my SIM card back into my 8525 when I get home and check it again. The last time I tried it on the 8525 it worked. The trouble is, there aren't a lot of changes to make. it's pretty much wap.cingular and the password.
Thanks, and if you think of anything else, please let me know.
Rob
my slingbox works just fine on att. WHen i had the isp.cingular it did not. i had to change it to wap.cingular to get it to work.
Hmmm, don't know th eport off hand, but I want to say i'm justusing the default.
Did you upgrade to the new Slingbox firmware the past couple of days?
I did and could not connect. I called Slingmedia and they told me they had some issus with the new firmware and UpnP settngs in some routers.
I had to go into the Slingbox settings on the desktop PC and manually open the port in the router. If you call them they will take you step by sep
I had the same problem it took me 10 hrs to finally find the answer. It has nothing to do with your port your finder ID at all. like the a previous stated you need to use a different connection setting to use slingbox. Use or create the my isp connection. the only difference is one use proxy settings and one does not. to be honest i just deleted the media net profile and used my isp exclusively. the only problem is medianet keeps showing up in my connection settings. the medianet setting can also screw with push email retrieval
Thanks so much NJXBEAN! I could NOT get Slingplayer to connect until I made that change in the modem settings. It works great now!
-Jerry
Proxy was blocking me...
After experimenting with mine further, I was FINALLY able to connect by unchecking the "use proxy server" setting on my unlocked Kaiser. I wonder if the AT&T "Tilt" build of the OS will even allow this?
AT&T Tilt and Slingbox
Right out of the box, Slingplayer worked on my Tilt. I made no changes to the proxy settings.
I have the media net unlimited plan.
It could be a firewall issue. If the connection you have is listed as "Connects to the Internet" it'll block some ports. If you have Connects to Work, it'll open all ports.
I just just want to say that you guys are great! I had a problem with sling, researched on it here, and found the problem without asking..People, u gotta love it!!!!!!
rtsrob said:
This is the most appropriate location I could find to post this, as I have three HTC devices (8525, TyTN 2, and Advantage) so I thought I would start here.
Issue:
I can no longer connect to my Slingbox on my home network when using my MediaNet (wap.cingular) connection on the TyTN 2 or the Advantage.
Error Message: Cannot connect using these settings. But email and web work from the MediaNet settings, so I am fairly certain the configuration is correct.
Facts:
- The connection works over Wifi on either HTC device, so I know my Slingplayer Mobile settings (Finder ID, etc.) are correct.
- The connection works using a Verzion Motorola Q. My corporate VPN connection also does not work with AT&T, but does on the Q through Verzion.
Conclusion:
AT&T has (or did) make changes to the proxy used which prevents services running on certain ports from working correctly.
Question:
Is anyone else having problems connecting to their Slingbox? If you can connect, what settings are you using?
Additionally, could someone please explain the differences between the wap.cingular and isp.cingular settings? Do you have to use isp.cingular to get VPN and other advanced services to work? If so, what is the minimum data plan you must subscribe to with AT&T to be able to do so?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
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have you found a fix, i have the x7500 and my slingbox worked fine at first then after a couple of months it just stopped and i could not receive email either, i found a workaround for the email but i have not found a work around for the slingbox.
P.S. i recored myself talking to an at&t rep you should listen to what he says
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h40AMIyc_yM
Found a Fix
It cannot connect to isp.cingular, you need to ADD wap.cingular apn to your network settings.
hnada said:
It cannot connect to isp.cingular, you need to ADD wap.cingular apn to your network settings.
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If you just make your default connection Media Net it's already going to be set for wap.cingular
isp.cingular is the default only if you have it set to use ATT ISP as your connection.
Wow, I want slingbox now. I didn't even think of it working on my Tilt....is the data transfer extreme????????
I have an AT&T Tilt (unmodifed so far) and am having no luck getting this to tether to my MacBookPro running 10.5.1. I have it working via USB for syncing via MissingSync for calendar, addresses, etc.
Running the bluetooth device setup finds both PAN and modem but I can't get those to work. I've read that PAN is the easiest since it doesn't require any configuration. When I use the Connect To Network in the Bluetooth menu, I get an error of "Failed to open a connection to the network service. Your device may have reached its maximum number of supported network connections."
I then tried to set it up as a modem via USB but the Tilt doesn't appear in the Network as a modem option. The System Profiler sees the phone as a generic serial device. Is there an OSX kext (driver) available for the Tilt so that it will be seen as an external USB modem?
If it is at all possible to make the phone act like a modem, is there any way to use it as a fax modem? Would love to set it up as a printer>fax gateway.
FYI, It is working in XP after installing the AT&T Connection Manager and using it as a dialup modem so I know my account is authorized for the tethering option (I have the PDA Tether Unlimited/1500 messages plan for $69)
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Ok. I got the Bluetooth PAN working after reflashing the firmware (I used the XDA Live 1.0 release). The AT&T Tilt firmware didn't include the Internet Sharing application so the BT PAN wasn't an option.
I would still like information about getting the phone to act as a fax modem if possible.
I would like to connect my S730 to my laptop (Windows XP) via USB, and then use the S730 as a modem for a dial-up connection. That means using a connectoid on the laptop to specify the phone number. I can do this with other cellphones. For my JasJar (WM 5 for Pocket PC Phone Edition), I needed a driver for the laptop and then need to use the Wireless Modem on the JasJar. For my Cingular 3125 (WM 5 for Smartphone), I need to Activate the modem connection. I haven't found a way with my S730. "Internet Sharing" seems to let a laptop share a connection initiated on the S730, which means the S730 has all the settings, including the phone number where appropriate (this is definitely not as clear as I would like:-(
Thanks.
That is how it works. Internet sharing...then make sure all of your settings are correct...then connect. Worked fine for me...better than the dial-up way with WM5.
Yeah, its extreemly simple, just connect your phone to the computer and make sure the computer registers the connection, can close or minimize ative sync if it pops up. Then on your phone open Internet Sharing, connection should be USB, and Network Connection should be whatever your network offers. Then hit connect. Give it a few seconds and your online.
Used this feature several times while on vacation during the holidays. Got about 20kb's down max (Edge)
Thank you for your replies. But I'm pretty sure your solution is not what I want. My ISP has dial-up service that can be convenient when I'm traveling (definitely slow, but good enough). So that is what I want to access. And I do not have any sort of network/data service from my T-Mobile. So I really want to use the connectoid on my laptop that lets me specify the phone number and enter the password on my laptop.
I'm not sure the S730 can act as a dial up modem?
I see what your saying, and as is I do not believe the phone can do it as it comes from the box. You would have to find a way to have your phone while connected to the computer also show up as a modem option for you to use it that way.
If you have the dial up numbers from your ISP why not just get a phone cord and plug it in while your on the road? Most laptops still come with built in modems which is what your after.
There might be some applications out there that allow you to configure a connection to use the phone as a dial up modem, but I honestly havent heard of any (havnt looked either soooo)
You also might try finding wifi hotspots and doing what was already suggested. Then you get DSL through your phone on the computer, or if the computer has a wifi card...
S730 as Modem: Success!
Well, I gave up on my original quest, but found something close enough. All settings on the S730.
First, I set up a Dial-up connection that dials my ISP, and set it to connect to The Internet.
Then I set Connection Sharing to use USB for the PC Connection and the Dial-up connection for the Network Connection. Press Connect, connect the cable, and my laptop is on-line!!
Not needing to add software to my laptop is nice. Typing my password on the cell phone rather than laptop is not so nice. But that is being fussy.
So, thanks for the help. It actually did prod and guide me to a good solution.
Useful when other options are unavailable, pricey, or less convenient.
Hi all,
Does anyone know if its possible to configure the Kaiser as an analog modem so that I can use it to dial-up to my ISP? I tried doing this by creating a new Connection on the Kaiser and selecting "Cellular Line" as my modem connection. However, when I tried using this Connection the Kaiser doesn't seem to be dialing out at all. Actually I'm pretty sure its not dialing out because I changed the phone number in my connections setup to another cell phone and it never rings.
Is there anyway to accomplish what I'm trying to do? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
umm...no
WModem?
What about this WModem application? From what I can tell, this apps allows your phone to act like a modem. In fact I tried this app and my laptop detected my kaiser as a USB modem. However, when I tried to dial an error dialog pops up on the kaiser telling me to "Please end data call". Funny thing is that I'm not in a data call.
Any other suggestions? Has anyone got WModem working for the Kaiser?
dialup?? yuck!
Its probably a lot better if u use the cell phone data plan over dialup for 3 reasons.
1) its faster
2) a lot more convenient
3) wont use your phone's minutes
How much do you pay for dialup? 10 dollars/mo? and i beleive its around 20 dollars/mo for unlimited data plan for the phone. Just configure the ICS and u will be able to connect to the internet with your phone on your laptop.
@ekw,
Yeah I thought about the data plan.... unfortunately its uber expensive here in Canada. Something to the effect of $15 for 5 megs, with no unlimited data transfer option.
Dial-up is my best bet until they finally decide to roll out an unlimited data plan
Dial-up modem
Any luck in configuring your TyTnII as a dial up modem?
I want to use it instead of a pcmcia-modem...
Regards,
Gert Beckers
Belgium
Greetings everyone,
Is it possible to use the Tilt 8925 as a dial-up modem?
I've try the search function, but could not find anything.
I would like to connect my laptop to the phone and use it as a dial up modem. I was able to do that with my Nokia N70....and that phone is 4 years old. I would be surprise if a more advance phone (Tilt 8925) was unable to perform the said function.
Thanks
Yes you can use it as a modem, you can also connect it to your laptop using "Internet Sharing" Which I think is the better method, I get 1700kbps with it.
Thongvilay said:
Yes you can use it as a modem, you can also connect it to your laptop using "Internet Sharing" Which I think is the better method, I get 1700kbps with it.
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What are your settings?
I've tried USB and Bluetooth PAn as the "PC connection"
and My Connection 1 as the "Network Connection".
I clicked on the "connect button" in the internet sharing and nothing is happening.
It's dialing the dial up number using Celluar line. But it's not connecting at all. I get " Cannot Connect" widow with the following: The remote party has ended this connection.
Thanks
Install ICS if you have a tilt.. There is a cab floating around for it that is easy to use. Once it is in, it'll show up as a network connection in Winblows and work for bluetooth PAN.
According to what he said just above he already has it. I guess the connection settings must be wrong though. If you connect your "my connection 1" with the phone, can you get internet access on the phone itself?
I had the exact same problem, with ICS saying that the connection was denied by a third party. More specifically it was WMWifirouter trying to use ICS to bind my data connection to my wificard to create a wireless hot spot out of my phone (which is the coolest program I have ever used on my tilt).
Anyway, I fixed it by opening ICS and changing the Network Connection. I have ATT and they use 2 different connections. One is if you paid for tethering (AT&T ISP GPRS), the other is your data connection (MEdia Net). I am not 100% sure if this is the case, but it is my best guess.
I changed it from ATT ISP to MEdia Net, and it started working, because I presume, due to the fact that I do not have tethering on my data plan.
I am not sure if the carrier can detect I made this change, and somehow know to charge me the extra tethering charge. As far as they know I do not even have access to the ICS application..so we'll see.
So look in your ICS and see if your carrier uses more than one connection.
kilrah said:
According to what he said just above he already has it. I guess the connection settings must be wrong though. If you connect your "my connection 1" with the phone, can you get internet access on the phone itself?
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I dont have internet connection on the phone itself. I dont have any data plan. My provider is T-Mobile. Am I required to purchase the data plan before I can use the dial-up internet/ share internet feature?
I know on my NOkia N70 all I had was the basic wireless plan (39.99 from T-mobile) and was able to connect using dial up. I would connect my Nokia N70 to my laptop via USB or Bluetooth. Click the dial-up icon on my laptop. It would dial my local ISP provider...and connect.
khaytsus said:
Install ICS if you have a tilt.. There is a cab floating around for it that is easy to use. Once it is in, it'll show up as a network connection in Winblows and work for bluetooth PAN.
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I have this install...but still is not working.
Thanks for the input.
I think my setting are off.....but do not know how to correct it.
OK, it seems you actually want to do it the "old way" and have the phone dial a phone number to connect like a 56k modem... but in 9.6k here through GSM
There are 2 ways to do this, one where the phone has the connection and shares it with ICS (create a new connection on the phone, through cellular line, add number) which seems to be what you tried first and as I said would allow you to have the net on the phone itself too, which is why I was asking if that was working in the first place before going into the sharing thing.
Or, the second which must be more like what you had with the Nokia, where the phone is just a modem and all connection settings are on the PC. As you're having trouble with the first one, lets try the second one:
If you want your modem to work via the USB cable:
Settings -> Connections -> wireless modem, select USB, menu-> APN setting -> remove the tick ->done -> menu -> start.
THEN plug the USB port, the PC should find a serial port to which a modem is attached.
Or via Bluetooth:
Just pair your phone to the PC via BT, then on the PC go and browse the services on the phone where you should find "dial-up networking". Now it depends on your PC's BT stack, but on mine I would double-click on that, which would firstly install a bluetooth modem, then open a dialog where I can enter the phone number to dial. I'd then have a usual modem connection in the PC's control panel->connections folder.
But with that you won't be able to take advantage of the new ways to transfer data over the network and their incredibly higher speeds. Granted you won't need a data plan and will just pay like a regular call, but you'll be having a very slow connection. Which is why barely anybody ever uses that anymore and we didn't get it.
To take advantage of EDGE, 3G, HSDPA, you need a real packet data connection instead of a call, which in turn requires either a data plan or that you pay just the standard volume price for data.
um you all are making this a one big issue....no offense...wmwifirouter and a bluetooth dongle for your pc...nuff said
Edited previous post with what I had forgotten.
t-mobile internet sharing
i have a problem using my tilt as a modem as well, I also don't have a data plan, i use T-Mobile's 5.99 plan, can i use internet sharing with this plan? if so what do i need to do? thanks
Ok, for one I think you have to have a data plan for it to work, otherwise you will wind up with serious data charges ( in excess of 3-500 $ have been reported )
Back in the day you could use the voice side and dial out to aol or the likes, but im sure that cant be done anymore. ( I hope this isnt what youre asking about )
There are other alternatives to ICS built into the phone. Using bluetooth you can "tether" the computer to the phone and dial an access string. this is done by using a generic bluetooth serial port for data communications. Basically once your phone is paired, you should be able to go to the computer and set up a new connection using the serial port that was created when you paired. Then you will need the phone number, user name , and password for your provider. For ATT, I know you can still use "[email protected]" for the user name and "CINGULAR1" for the password. The APN ( or dial string) can be a few different things. Ive used apn.cingular.com on my WM phones as the phone number to dial, and also *99# as the number to dial. If you research your cellular carrier you will find the dial strings, user names, and passwords for them through google.
JUST REMEMBER THIS IS DATA INTENSIVE!!!!!!!
I hope this info helps a tad.
**EDIT**
Just found this. Looks helpful for T-Mobile
http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/GSM_tethering_with_Windows_XP
pyraxiate said:
Ok, for one I think you have to have a data plan for it to work, otherwise you will wind up with serious data charges ( in excess of 3-500 $ have been reported )
Back in the day you could use the voice side and dial out to aol or the likes, but im sure that cant be done anymore. ( I hope this isnt what youre asking about )
There are other alternatives to ICS built into the phone. Using bluetooth you can "tether" the computer to the phone and dial an access string. this is done by using a generic bluetooth serial port for data communications. Basically once your phone is paired, you should be able to go to the computer and set up a new connection using the serial port that was created when you paired. Then you will need the phone number, user name , and password for your provider. For ATT, I know you can still use "[email protected]" for the user name and "CINGULAR1" for the password. The APN ( or dial string) can be a few different things. Ive used apn.cingular.com on my WM phones as the phone number to dial, and also *99# as the number to dial. If you research your cellular carrier you will find the dial strings, user names, and passwords for them through google.
JUST REMEMBER THIS IS DATA INTENSIVE!!!!!!!
I hope this info helps a tad.
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Just found this. Looks helpful for T-Mobile
http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/GSM_tethering_with_Windows_XP[/QUO
i am still a little confused, i dont think t-mobile works the same way At&t does it does not charge by data use, i just want to know if it will work with the 5.99 plan, if there is a way to manipulate the phone the same way i use a proxy setting to connect to the internet?
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ljinsane said:
um you all are making this a one big issue....no offense...wmwifirouter and a bluetooth dongle for your pc...nuff said
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This reply is just not contributing in any way! Why not just help others out? This reply shows that you have no idea at all of the goal of this question!