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Lose signal and doesn't come back ?

Often times I have noticed with my Tilt that I will lose the signal (simply by hitting a dead spot in the service), and it will not come back until I do a soft reset. First, it shows the indicator that it is looking for a signal, but after about 10 seconds it switches to an indicator with an exclamation point, showing no signal. It never regains a signal after that. Once we get to a place where I know AT&T service works, I will check my wife's phone at that very moment, and she has full signal. We're both on AT&T btw. I know it's not the service, cause her phone never does this. If she hits a dead spot, as soon as we're out of it her phone picks service right back up. I have the stock AT&T ROM that shipped with my Tilt.
Anyone have any ideas why it quits looking for a signal after it loses it?

jackjohnson said:
Often times I have noticed with my Tilt that I will lose the signal (simply by hitting a dead spot in the service), and it will not come back until I do a soft reset. First, it shows the indicator that it is looking for a signal, but after about 10 seconds it switches to an indicator with an exclamation point, showing no signal. It never regains a signal after that. Once we get to a place where I know AT&T service works, I will check my wife's phone at that very moment, and she has full signal. We're both on AT&T btw. I know it's not the service, cause her phone never does this. If she hits a dead spot, as soon as we're out of it her phone picks service right back up. I have the stock AT&T ROM that shipped with my Tilt.
Anyone have any ideas why it quits looking for a signal after it loses it?
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Ive noticed the same thing.
Not sure of why this happens, but did find an easier work-around than soft reset.
If you go into your phone options, under the Network tab, you can manually tell the phone to search for the network.

I've also had that problem.
I'm not sure wich fix is faster, but using the Wireless Manager to turn the phone off and then back on also takes care of the problem.

hey, i also have that problem.. i'm using a tilt with one of dutythroys roms, with the new .17 radio.. thought maybe that was the problem cuz i never really noticed it with the .11 radio. btw, you dont need to soft reset, just give it a minute or two and it'll come back
omar

I noticed that after messing with KaiserTweak and enabling HSDPA. I live in Minneapolis where HSDPA is now enabled. However, I frequently travel west towards Alexandria, and once I leave the metro area, no HSDPA. If I don't go into the comm manager and disable 3G, I have no phone service at all. Once I disable 3G, I regain phone service.

Ok good, so I'm not the only one.
Thanks for the tip about turning the phone on and off in wireless manager, rather than doing a soft reset. That is, indeed quicker. However, we shouldn't have to do that at all.
I've noticed this a lot when driving home from work. I'm thinking that it's probably because at work I'm in a 3G area, and on the way home I lose it. Is there anyway to disable 3G altogether? Or does anyone know of a tweak that will keep the phone continuously searching before it gives up?

I have that same problem with my TILT, but I also had it with the 5150. It's been around for a while.

Bump again. C'mon people - you gotta give us something. Is no one else having this problem?
For the record, I didn't have this problem with the stock HTC ROM on a different phone.

Having this problem sometimes on a T-Mobile Vario 3, although mine seems to not recognise the sim card after it looses signal. I had thought it related to the phone being cold...

I have the same problems but only with 3G on. When I select GSM only no problems at all. I updated to .17 and wonder whether that's the problem since I don't recall any issues with .11

Thank the lord I thought it was just me. I made a thread about my blue tooth causing it but I realized it is my drive home that does it. I hit an area with no 3G and it goes out.
I have the 10 button comm manager installed and was wondering if that was the culprit. It is weird because EDGE will switch to GSM OR GPRS (not sure the correct name) when 3G is off but 3G will not switch to the others. Does anyone without the 10 button wireless manager have this issue.

Had similiar issues while traveling in certain parts of southern China. Try upgrading the radio from ver. 1.27.12.11 to 1.27.12.17. Follow this link for more info...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528

I am redoing the phone back to the stock condition of how it arrived. I will tell you if it goes back to normal for me.
I will update you tomorrow becuase it is a certain part of downtown Houston that cuases it to go out .

I put the original OS/ROM I am not sure what you call it. For the first time in a long time it switched from 3G to EDGE. I wonder how many of us complaining have the 3G ten button communication manager. I will let you all know more tomorrow after my drive home from work.
bigsherv said:
I am redoing the phone back to the stock condition of how it arrived. I will tell you if it goes back to normal for me.
I will update you tomorrow because it is a certain part of downtown Houston that causes it to go out .
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Did you see this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344273

can everyone who has this problem start posting their Radio Versions ... please
I used to have this problem with the Tmobile SDA (at that time it was driving people nutts) and that phone did not even have 3G. I did experience the same problem with Tilt (on tmo sim) Radio Version .11, and since tmo usa does not have 3G anyways, I just changed my phone band to GSM and the problem does not exist anymore.

Radio 1.27.12.11
Protocol 22.45.88.07H
in German o2 and T-Mobile network, problem persists after repair trial of HTC.

So 24 hours after redoing the phone back to its original state the 3g problem is gone. I watched it switch from 3G to edge to G all in 24 hours. I will keep you posted if it stays this way.
So basically the big change I had was removing the 10 button comm manager.

I was having a problem that I think is similar, or the same. When I travel from Edge to G my phone will ring and it indicates "connected" but I can't hear the person and they can't hear me. I soft-reset and the phone works again, until I travel back from G to Edge. I ended up reflashing to the original HTC Shipped ROM and I am waiting to see the results.
I am not sure of my radio version when it was flaky. I am using 1.27.12.11 now.

I've noticed the problem described in the original post maybe three times since I bought my TyTN II late in September. It's always been when I'm travelling that this happens. Fortunately I've not missed any calls as a result and switching to 'Flight Mode' and back to 'Phone' in Comm Manager (the standard HTC version) works around it for me. All a very standard setup here so I don't think the problem is a result of any customisations (although I do have HSDPA enabled in settings).

Phone continously disconnects and loses signal if 3g is on

Hey guys, I have this prepaid ATT pay as you go simcard with the medianet unlimited on and the phone goes into a continuous disconnect and reconnect with the 3g signal if I have 3g enabled in the connection manager. If I turn off 3G then it works just fine and sticks with an EDGE connection. Is there something that I am doing wrong? I checked the connection settings with another friend who uses 3g from att as well and settings are the same. I have also resetted the phone multiple times too.
Oh and the phone I have is the ATT Tilt running Hyperdragon's most recent rom.

I'd try swapping SIM with your friend and see if it works for both of you that way. If the Kaiser still can't connect to 3G, you might want to try another ROM, if to no avail you might have the broken 3G radio problem.

kilrah said:
I'd try swapping SIM with your friend and see if it works for both of you that way. If the Kaiser still can't connect to 3G, you might want to try another ROM, if to no avail you might have the broken 3G radio problem.
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I had the same problem. Got a brand new 3G sim card from mobile operator. No help. So sent it to warranty again.

There is a broken 3g radio problem?

johnny13oi said:
There is a broken 3g radio problem?
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Yes, a lot of people including me had to send their Kaiser for a mainboard exchange for that same problem.
Here's the old thread about it I found when I had the problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074

Yes, it's a hardware problem. Seems to be fairly common. My TytnII had the same problem.
I had to send it off for repair last Monday. They sent me a replacement phone on Wednesday.

Oh great, I bought this phone a while back from someone else and was using it with Tmobile and am trying it out with ATT prepaid. So I guess I am not covered and am stuck with a phone with a broken 3g radio?

First try the steps described above, sometimes configuration/ROM trouble can make it look similar.

I tried calling support and talking with them and nothing really worked. They said I would have to do warranty exchange through HTC. They said that all they would need is a credit card number and they send the new one first and I have to send back the broken one and I won't be charged if there is no water damage or too many drops right? Do they send you a completely new device? I have kept this phone inside a microfiber pouch its whole life and there are literally no scratches anywhere and a screen protector on it since day 1. It seems to work fine when on the EDGE network, so should I send it back? I don't want to get charged for anything.

I have the same problem... it started with the stock ROM, I have tried four different ROMs, five different radios, even tried reverting to the 6>0 ROM thiking it was a 6.1 glitch, and nothing worked. I get EDGE just fine, but if I switch to 3G, I get a signal for maybe 30 seconds and then lose it.
Lucky for me, my warranty expired. However, AT&T is supposedly releasing the Diamond soon, I thnk I'll plod along until then.

drunkbastard said:
I have the same problem... it started with the stock ROM, I have tried four different ROMs, five different radios, even tried reverting to the 6>0 ROM thiking it was a 6.1 glitch, and nothing worked. I get EDGE just fine, but if I switch to 3G, I get a signal for maybe 30 seconds and then lose it.
Lucky for me, my warranty expired. However, AT&T is supposedly releasing the Diamond soon, I thnk I'll plod along until then.
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Man I wish I had the money to switch devices like that. Being a college student means no money.

3G Module - Whats the deal

HI Everyone,
Since i started using the M2D Rom's i have had no 3G only GPRS, a coincidence im sure, so i decided to flash a Vodafone stock ROM, excellent the 3G and H connections came back and worked until i flashed another ROM and then i lost it for good, flashed the Vodafone ROM again and nothing, still only GPRS, left it like that, annoyed but convinced the 3G module on my phone was now dead.
Flashed a T-mobile Rom yesterday and wolla, 3G came back, but this time only lasted a day, "What's the deal with this, the engineer side of me says if the 3G module is dead it should stay dead, right ?"
I know this has been covered as i have read everyone's posts on the matter but i refuse to accept the only way to fix this is to have the motherboard repaired, it seems there must be a way of getting this working but how, its not Rom, Radio related, something else.
If anyone has actually fixed this fault without letting someone rip there phone apart then please, let me know, it would be much appreciated.
Steve

Im having the same issues here in the US, And i have tried diffrent radios with diffrent ROMs as well

Usually that failure starts by being intermittent, then it's gone for good. On mine the 2G radio eventually died too about 1 month after the 3G one, I couldn't connect to any cellular network anymore.

kilrah said:
Usually that failure starts by being intermittent, then it's gone for good. On mine the 2G radio eventually died too about 1 month after the 3G one, I couldn't connect to any cellular network anymore.
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Dont have any problem with 2G thank god, but 3G is mostly dead, occasionally after flashing a stock rom it will work, this is what intrigues me ? very strange.

Dropped signal on v1615 t-mobile uk

I have a strange problem with my Kaiser, the signal with t-mobile uk keeps dropping, I have changed various radios and roms but still have the problem.
Current Phone is: V1615
KAIS130
SPL-3.34.Hard
CPLD-8
Current RomDA Ultimate X-V3 (but have tried anumber of others including stock t-mobile)
Current Radio: 1.70.19.09 (but have tried a number of others)
Any help would be appreciated.
p.s. Yeah on my first post, been a lurker for far too long.

Do you use 3G networking?, if not, try to change under Band menu to GSM network, it works pretty well and most places has good signal for it.
Good Luck!

I've had a nightmare with mine on T-mobile..
3 months ago, my phone developed a problem where it'd drop its network for a few hours, then I'd get a few hours of it working, etc. etc.
It was sent to T-mobile, who just re-flashed it. Still didn't work! Had it sent back and it was away a long time, I believe they replaced the motherboard.
It's been working perfectly for the last month until today - When it hasn't had a network connection the whole day! I'm worried it's still broken..
Hopefully our problems are network based! T-mobile warranty returns are terrible.

Aha! Changing my "Network Type" to GSM from Auto fixed things.
...But now when I receive a text, it vibrates until I reset!

jamiepyrite said:
Aha! Changing my "Network Type" to GSM from Auto fixed things.
...But now when I receive a text, it vibrates until I reset!
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turn off vibrate

Hi Milmirex & Jamiepyrite, thanks for the comments.
I've changed to GSM and it has been working fine for the last ten minutes, will test for the rest of the day and report back.
Does anybody else have any idea's how to fix 3G problem? I receive emails all day so could really do with this being resolved.
Does anybody else have same issue but with different network? would possibly point to hardware issue if you do.
Thanks again.
P.S. I didn't have the problem with vibrating on receiving texts

I had flashed back to the original T-Mobile ROM when it was doing the vibrate thing. Flashed it again back to the ROM I was using before and all works fine now

jamiepyrite said:
I had flashed back to the original T-Mobile ROM when it was doing the vibrate thing. Flashed it again back to the ROM I was using before and all works fine now
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Even I have the similar issues from last week. Mine is MDA VARIO III. Even after changing my band to GSM, the issue stil seesm to be there. For about 10 mins i get a weak sigmnal, then it disappears.
Where did you get the original TMobile Vario III ROM. I would like to reflash and see if it fixes the problem. Can you please direct me to the right place
Thanks
Shashi

I think my problem may be similar. I'm with Virgin Mobile but I think they use T-Mobile network.
Have had my Tytn II for over a year & haven't touched software or settings for several months & all has worked well. For the last few weeks I've had no signal in places that other people on the same network (using different phones) are fine. Sometimes if I reboot it comes back. I'm also now finding low battery a lot but I think that the signal issue is draining my batter as it seems to be constantly searching. I get low/no signal with a completely full battery so I don't think that the battery is the problem.
Might this be a H/W problem? Anything I can do to sort this?

i have the same problem. I use Telkomsel operator in indonesia. My Kaiser is HTC Brand.
Any idea why is this happen? Seems like A LOT OF Kaiser went bad this way
Anyone have solution?

im4u2nv said:
i have the same problem. I use Telkomsel operator in indonesia. My Kaiser is HTC Brand.
Any idea why is this happen? Seems like A LOT OF Kaiser went bad this way
Anyone have solution?
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Yup bro, we had the same problems,
i had already try to use with XL, Indosat, and my own Telkomsel,
but still had this serious problems,until i switch phone mode into GSM
i use this gadget for 3G purpose now i must use only GSM
is there any solutions from HTC? I already count on the net and found a lot of problem like we had and still no solutions from HTC

3G Radio activity

Hello all,
I am having some issues with the 3G connection with my Dream that started a few weeks ago. There are times when it works just fine and I am able to use apps/maps/browser with no difficulty what-so-ever. Then out of no where it will stop working. I will have 3 or 4 bars, and it says I am connected at 3G, but only outgoing ('Up') arrow on the status bar lights up, while the incoming ('Down') arrow will not light up at all. Then finally after various wait times (2 to 10 minutes) the '3G' will disappear and light back up as if the radio is resetting and will work again for a few minutes before repeating the same process over again. If I enable the 2G only connection it works just fine. I do not see any pattern or correlation to this disconnect. I have tried wiping, reformatting the SD and re-flashing my phone with no help...
Any ideas? TIA
ROM: Cyan 4.0.4 Stable
Recovery Image: Cyan 1.4
Radio: 26I

Try airplane mode when this problem occurs.

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Try airplane mode when this problem occurs.
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You mean enable airplane mode and then disable it again to reset the connection? I just tried it...did not help. Still sending information out but not downloading anything in return...

bethel03 said:
Hello all,
I am having some issues with the 3G connection with my Dream that started a few weeks ago. There are times when it works just fine and I am able to use apps/maps/browser with no difficulty what-so-ever. Then out of no where it will stop working. I will have 3 or 4 bars, and it says I am connected at 3G, but only outgoing ('Up') arrow on the status bar lights up, while the incoming ('Down') arrow will not light up at all. Then finally after various wait times (2 to 10 minutes) the '3G' will disappear and light back up as if the radio is resetting and will work again for a few minutes before repeating the same process over again. If I enable the 2G only connection it works just fine. I do not see any pattern or correlation to this disconnect. I have tried wiping, reformatting the SD and re-flashing my phone with no help...
Any ideas? TIA
ROM: Cyan 4.0.4 Stable
Recovery Image: Cyan 1.4
Radio: 26I
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it could be your phone
but also it could be 3g service in your area.. it could be unstable or weak..
i.e. i get terrible 3g service in my nearest mall,but 2g works fine.
but in my house my 3g service is almost perfect.

R u using a datasim or not??
Check with ur telecom operator. Sometimes u need to be using a data only sim to be using 3g on the g1. It happened to me. Otherwise there might be some apn settings wrong or missing.

Thanks for the reply guys. I thought it could be the 3G in my area but I have had my phone for well over 6 months now and it has worked great at my house. I know t-mobile is still working on their 3G roll-out so it could be that as well. I really hope it is not my phone but with my luck...who knows...
As far as the datasim, I am not sure. Like I said, I have had my phone for 6+ months and 3G used to work just fine. Is there any way I can tell by looking at my T-mobile SIM to see if it is a datasim or not?

My G1 is doing the same thing!
I am in Atlanta and i have been noticing the same exact problem. I am also noticing that i am suddenly getting mobile versions of websites that i usewd to always get the full web version. I am on cyan 4.1.7. Not sure if it is the rom or the service but nonetheless i am experiencing the exact same problem.

Weird stuff... I am in Los Angeles in case people are wondering.

bethel03 said:
Thanks for the reply guys. I thought it could be the 3G in my area but I have had my phone for well over 6 months now and it has worked great at my house. I know t-mobile is still working on their 3G roll-out so it could be that as well. I really hope it is not my phone but with my luck...who knows...
As far as the datasim, I am not sure. Like I said, I have had my phone for 6+ months and 3G used to work just fine. Is there any way I can tell by looking at my T-mobile SIM to see if it is a datasim or not?
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if you want to take more precautions..
u can go to a corporate tmobile store and ask them to replace your sim card. its just something basic. some sim cards go bad. i had to replace mine twice.
if you go to a booth in the mall or whatever they may charge u $25. in a corporate store,its usually free.
or you can call tmobile and ask them to take off your data plan and then add it cak on again.. this again is a basic troubleshoot for data related problems..
and if it is your phone(i assume you bought ur phone from tmobile) you should have a 1 year warranty. tmobile might exchange or call htc... all you really have to do is pay shipping.

brian_v3ntura said:
if you want to take more precautions..
u can go to a corporate tmobile store and ask them to replace your sim card. its just something basic. some sim cards go bad. i had to replace mine twice.
if you go to a booth in the mall or whatever they may charge u $25. in a corporate store,its usually free.
or you can call tmobile and ask them to take off your data plan and then add it cak on again.. this again is a basic troubleshoot for data related problems..
and if it is your phone(i assume you bought ur phone from tmobile) you should have a 1 year warranty. tmobile might exchange or call htc... all you really have to do is pay shipping.
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Awesome, thanks for your help. I have had to replace my SIM card a couple of times as well with previous phones but that was due to MMS problems. I didnt think of 3G/SIM problems but I hope that is it. Thanks again!!

I went to the T-Mobile store today and they said that a lot of people have come in with the same problem. So apparently it is a problem with the 3G network here in Southern California (at least the area I live in). I am grateful it is not my phone or the ROM but still kinda ticked off I gotta deal with it until the issue is resolved...

bethel03 said:
I went to the T-Mobile store today and they said that a lot of people have come in with the same problem. So apparently it is a problem with the 3G network here in Southern California (at least the area I live in). I am grateful it is not my phone or the ROM but still kinda ticked off I gotta deal with it until the issue is resolved...
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Ask them to reimburse you for the downtime

i too have been having the same problem as the original poster!
out of nowhere my 3g starts acting really funky and only the up arrow flases but it doesnt download anything. i hope this is a problem with the 3g network in los angeles otherwise idk what ima do.

djbootleg said:
i too have been having the same problem as the original poster!
out of nowhere my 3g starts acting really funky and only the up arrow flases but it doesnt download anything. i hope this is a problem with the 3g network in los angeles otherwise idk what ima do.
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whenever this happens.. it usually means that ur in an area that has weak 3g. i.e. i get weak 3g service in my nearest mall.
or ur areas 3g network is bugging up. but most likely its the first one ^

im having the exact same problem. been having it for a week or so. i thought maybe it was a bug in cyans roms but its not. i will lose 3g connection but i have a full connection and only the uplink arrow is on. this is really pissing me off. i live in los angeles and its been having 3g for a while now and i have never experoenced issues like this with 3g