Backlight and talktime - I got more time... - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hello all
I've searched but I brought some marsmellows if you should decide to flame me anyways... (I hope not! )
When I got my Tytn 2 in december I installed the GPRS monitor that came along on a cd. With this program you can also set the backlight and look at the battery status and - I belive it is - see the talktime.
I have always had the backlight bar set in the middle and started with having talktime around 4 hours and maybe 25 minuts when the battery was 100 %.
As time went by the talktime was only about 3 hours and some minuts at 100 % battery and I have not changed the backlight at all because I find it very nice when it's set in the middle.
So yesterday I was bored and pressed the backlight bar in the GPRS monitor and I went all the way from the lightest to the darkest mode maybe two or three times in a row.
After doing this I set it in the middle as this is where I normally have it but now to my surprise I was having the 4 hours and about 25 minuts with only about 90 % of battery...
Will this also work for you?
I've just remembered that I presses the backlight button in the HTC Home plugin - you know where you can go to commanager and programs... ;-)

What? U r getting 4hrs 25 minutes only by 10% battery consumption? Amazing.
R u sure?

well that is what it said... Right now it says 65 % battery and 2:06 hours of what I call talk time - isnt that what it is...?

I wonder how,I've been using this apps too. Never notice it happen, will try. Normally 50% out after 2 hrs. No harm trying after all nothing to lose......right?

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About the battery complains

Hi !
I just want to point out something: i'm using Helmi's Dynamic Bigstorage ROM with no extra cab installed, i haven't activated any (btw: great ROM, helmi).
I have installed rlToday and i have my own custom skin, updating every 5 seconds. Also on the today screen i have the IM+ plugin and battery status (the latest nightly build a few days ago). That's all
I use GPRS always on during day / once every 2 hours during night and yahoo pop3 once every 30 min. (I don't use 3G connection, but when i did, i remember a similar consumption)
The brightness is at the third or fourth point on the bar.
The point is i have a really good battery life.
The battery drain is 4-5 mAh on stand-by which gives me (in theory) between (1350/5=) 270 hours and (1350/4=) 337 hours of standby, again this is with GPRS connection on 1/3 of the time.
I would say that's a good life for the battery.
If Battery Status reports more then 4-5mAh in stand-by (put phone in stand-by for about 10-20 seconds, then wake it up, wait until the next update on battery drain and read that), check what applications you have installed.
Phew... my first long post.

Test your battery life

I now understand that there are people who own the Diamond at the moment.
I hear a lot about the battery not being strong enough to last the day.
But then again, some say it does.
I would like for people to test this.
So post here the time you disconnected it from the charger (charged 100%)
What did you do with your phone during the day
- how many calls
- how long were the calls
- sms
- gps
- 3g
ect ect ect.
and what the battery status is when you check it again in the evening.
I think this is the best way to see how long it will last.
And if various users do this (one calls more, one internets more ect)
Then people can compare this with there own phone usage.
Thank you for your inputh
a dutch htc touch, i am still waiting for it. where did you get yours?
i am looking for performance with:
3g off (only connect when using the internet),
no pushmail (a lot of people that complain are using push mail)
no gps
no wireless
no bluetooth
does this mean i actually plan to use this as a phone???????
yes, with the extra of sometimes using internet and gps.
I my self dont have a diamond yet.
I first want to know how bad this battery realy is befor i do buy it.
Will it last 1 whole day, then its ok.
but if it doesnt last 1 whole days (and be able to use it! )
Then i will definitly wait for the Pro
HTC TOUCH DIAMOND BATTERY LIFE for an SMS junkie
UPDATE ON BATTERY REVIEW : I did this test, based on what a student (like me) would probably use. More sms than calls. Here's a rough estimate.
TOTAL HOURS BEFORE KONKING OUT TOTALLY = approximately 9 hours, give or take
TOTAL SMS-ES = 120
TOTAL TALK TIME = approximately 15-20 mins
TOTAL LIGHT GAMING TIME (Hexic) = 45 mins.
Its actually pretty impressive.
My verdict is that with backlight on "auto adjust" and with the dimlight dimming within seconds after not being used, there is a HUGE amount of power saving from running the VGA screen. Also, it could be possible that with its graphic accelerators, gaming also consumed less power than usual.
MORE STUFF HERE: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/711698
Have you tested BattBench.NET ?
Baronic said:
HTC TOUCH DIAMOND BATTERY LIFE for an SMS junkie
UPDATE ON BATTERY REVIEW : I did this test, based on what a student (like me) would probably use. More sms than calls. Here's a rough estimate.
TOTAL HOURS BEFORE KONKING OUT TOTALLY = approximately 9 hours, give or take
TOTAL SMS-ES = 120
TOTAL TALK TIME = approximately 15-20 mins
TOTAL LIGHT GAMING TIME (Hexic) = 45 mins.
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As another student, that sort of performance will do me!
So the battery only lasted for 9 hours on one full charge?
ok.. i charged my diamond yesterday night at 1030pm.
under locked modes and suspend...
no calls no msg no nothing.. i just left it sleeping there
now 330pm it's still alive at half cell.
Yesterday I used my Diamond for about 15 mins of calls, push email all day, connected to 3g half of the day, browsed the web for 20 minutes on HSDPA, browsed the web for 30 minutes on WiFi, played Teeter for 10 minutes (fantastic game).
By 7pm my battery was still at 50%. I'm happy with that. As a previous mentioned, the auto backlight feature seems to work very well.
anheuer said:
So the battery only lasted for 9 hours on one full charge?
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different people will get different amount of time, for each person's usage is different.
SMS takes up a lot of power, because for the amount of sms i made, lets say 1 minute to type one sms, thats already more than an hour's worth of HTC Diamond's light being switched on. So it consumes battery
please do understand that your battery will be better after some cycles!!!
I'm busy throttling mine...
Streaming music via WiFi from my laptop, and I'm listening to it via Stereo Bluetooth Headphones.
Surfing the internet or installing and testing a few third party programs at the same time. I've made a couple of 10 minute phone calls, sent 17 e-mails (using push e-mail), and only two text messages.
I'm in a 2G-only area (my living room) with my phone set to "Auto" to supposedly keep searching for 3G. So far it's managed four hours, but I get a feeling it will be turning itself off in about half an hour.
Certainly seems to be getting pretty warm. Hopefully it won't blow up on me when I try and charge it...
HONG KONG DIAMOND WWE VERSION BATTERY REVIEW
Network - 3G, HSPDA
unplug charger at 11:00am with 100% charged
--> Connect bluetooth handset for two hours
--> talk on phone with bluetooth for 20-30 mins
I usually use bluetooth when driving.
GPS ON for 20 mins
SMS, 10-20 per day, both send and receive
talk without bluetooth around 1-2 hours
a little bit HSPDA connection for internet, e-mail(not push) every hours and update weather.
When I was home at 4:00am, 30% battery left.
okay, can someone plz:
- CHARGE the Phone to 100%
- GO TO SLEEP / WAIT 10 Hours (and do NOTHING)
- then CHECK again what the battery says
cause:
ok.. i charged my diamond yesterday night at 1030pm.
under locked modes and suspend...
no calls no msg no nothing.. i just left it sleeping there
now 330pm it's still alive at half cell.
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is very much in terms of battery drain
and can someone plz use the Battery Benchmark
BATTBENCH.NET
and post the results?!
thanks in Advance
i charged my diamond last night before i went to sleep. i even turned of the phone (flight mode). when i woke up (after 8 hours) the battery was down to aprox. 50 % and my diamond was switched on (screen was illuminated). so i think it must have been on for quite a while during the night which causes the battery to drain.
Thats annoying. It reminds me of my firts days with my tytan. The screen tunred on rendomly as well and drained the battery realy fast.
As stated above the battery seems to get better each time I charge it.
My first charge was hopeless only lasted half a day but each time I charge it, it gets better, its still not amazing battery life but for the size of it and what it does its not too bad.
Can someone post how many hours of music play you can get out of the Diamond?
Yesterday I unplugged my Diamond at 9am.
- it was constantly on Direct Push mail on a 3G/HSDPA network
- I've made around 40 minutes of calls
- I've used Google Maps with GPS active for 15 minutes
- I've transferred 2 albums (around 30 mp3) and listened to music for 20 minutes with speaker on (not headphones).
- I've shown my phone to friends (teeter, touchflo3D, ...) for half an hour
- I had my phone connected to my bluetooth car handsfree for half an hour
- I have surfed the net for about an hour
- Fortunately I didn't have to work yesterday, when I add up the time I've used my Diamond
When I went to bed at 11pm, so 14 hours later, there was 30% of the battery left. I think it's quite good!
ROM version: 1.35.401.3 WWE
ROM date: 05/28/08
Radio Version: 0.93.25.NS26
turt said:
When I went to bed at 11pm, so 14 hours later, there was 30% of the battery left. I think it's quite good!
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That is quite good. I currently get that sort of performance out of my Touch (only roughly speaking, as it doesn't have all of those features). I think that, perhaps, the screen is the big battery drain and that people don't realise how much power they're using while typing texts, hence the differing opinions on the battery. Also, people haven't taken into account the light conditions that they've use the device in - the light sensor automatically adjusts the brightness of the backlight, as far as I'm aware.
time to charge the battery
slightly off topic:
how long does ist take for you to fully charge your battery?
i am just asking because mine takes about 5 hours to fully charge (phone turned on) and about 3.5 hours (phone turned completely off), with the supplied wallcharger. and this seems to be pretty long for an 900mAh battery.
thanks,
chaos42

Diamond battery consumption

looks like I have made my life's worst decision of buying Diamond.
This diamond sucks battery like leech. The battery drops 25% within 10 mins of talk with
all programs off, only phone functions on. Another few calls ( 10-20 mins) and some config settings the battery is flat at 28%. Guys ! are you facing the same. I did some observations,
It takes appx 460ma + while on call( screen on ) ,
drops to 275ma + while on call when the screen is off.
goes to 440ma + for GPRS ( internet , data etc) ( phone on )
takes appx 150ma + with Bluetooth on (( phone on ))
goes to 175ma+ with WIFI on (( phone on ))
remains IDLE with 50ma+ ( no call phone On)
I am checking this on battery status and Power gaurd.
Please suggest if the above power consumptions patterns are fine....
ROM : 1.37.720.2 WWE
ROM Date : 06/16/08
Radio version 1.00.25.03
Left for work this morning at 9:30 (yes, I was late) with my battery at 100%.
Talked for about 40 min, updated weather 3 or 4 times, read for about 20 min during lunch break.
When I got back home at 18:30, my battery was at 68%.
Please note that I applied most (if not all) of the tweaks found on this site. Oh, and my screen backlighting was on Auto.
Manoj0603 said:
looks like I have made my life's worst decision of buying Diamond.
This diamond sucks battery like leech. The battery drops 25% within 10 mins of talk with
all programs off, only phone functions on. Another few calls ( 10-20 mins) and some config settings the battery is flat at 28%. Guys ! are you facing the same. I did some observations,
It takes appx 460ma + while on call( screen on ) ,
drops to 275ma + while on call when the screen is off.
goes to 440ma + for GPRS ( internet , data etc) ( phone on )
takes appx 150ma + with Bluetooth on (( phone on ))
goes to 175ma+ with WIFI on (( phone on ))
remains IDLE with 50ma+ ( no call phone On)
I am checking this on battery status and Power gaurd.
Please suggest if the above power consumptions patterns are fine....
ROM : 1.37.720.2 WWE
ROM Date : 06/16/08
Radio version 1.00.25.03
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Update your ROM and also make sure you use the .05 radio, as it has been shown to be better with battery life.
I find on average my phone will last 2 and a half days or so with moderate usage (i.e. few calls/day, texts, internet, few apps run, bit of gps), you may also consider changing your screen brightness to a low'ish setting as this will help preserve battery life and turning gprs off manually. but I do keep mine on auto brightness and with GPRS on the normal default setting
a friend of mine uses the standard radio (.03) without using any tweaks and his battery lasts about 2 days (he calls a lot of people, uses wifi at least once a day)...
I can't tell my experiences because I'm using tweaks...
I've been having similar problems, with the battery sometimes lasting just 12 hours with no usage at all.
Yesterday, my battery ran completely flat, but today things are loads better (still 50% left after 13 hours, including some calls and browsing on 3G/HSDPA).
I'm starting to think that the problems were being caused by a program running in the background which got killed when my phone battery ran out. I'll do some tests over the next few days to try to find out, but I guess the main possibilities are GSen, Opera, Google Maps, or ActiveSync.
Has anyone else experienced similar problems with any of these apps?
pedmond said:
Left for work this morning at 9:30 (yes, I was late) with my battery at 100%.
Talked for about 40 min, updated weather 3 or 4 times, read for about 20 min during lunch break.
When I got back home at 18:30, my battery was at 68%.
Please note that I applied most (if not all) of the tweaks found on this site. Oh, and my screen backlighting was on Auto.
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Same here with all the tweaks applied.
My baby will get me through the whole laboral day 8:00am to around 7:30pm.
When I get home batt is around 10% left. I let it die then charge.
On the phone for about 40 30 minutes on various calls.
Weather check twice.
Emails 4 times.
And a quick look at xda-developers.
Works fine, you just have to learn how to manage the Diamond. Im still waiting for a new battery though.
Luck Fellas!
Sergio PC said:
...I let it die then charge.
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A bit OT, but the Li-Ion batteries doesn't like to die out completely.
I had a phone interview today, around 55 min speaking and the battery dropped from 100% to 70%, so not that bad!
chribruu said:
A bit OT, but the Li-Ion batteries doesn't like to die out completely.
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As far as I know it's OK to do a full charging cycle every some time, like once per month or so.
My battery easily lasts 2 days with moderate use
I get 2 days out of mine - note also that battery life improves markedly after a few charging cycles - mine ran down scarily fast the first 2 or 3 days!
oscahie said:
As far as I know it's OK to do a full charging cycle every some time, like once per month or so.
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This is what I know:
Every battery (doesent matter what kind) has for example 1000 charge cycles that will be 100% Strong. After the 1000 charges the rate starts to fall. You get only 90% after the 1000 charges ect.......
Soooo
You have to make the best out of your charges. The best way of doing this is by drastically cutting of charge sessions. You let it die and then charge it FULLY (and by fully i say till the Diamond tells you its full with its kick a** full circle.
Thats all fellas. Lucks to all!
adesonic said:
I get 2 days out of mine - note also that battery life improves markedly after a few charging cycles - mine ran down scarily fast the first 2 or 3 days!
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Same with me. The first two or three days I was barely getting a whole day. I use push email constantly and make regular calls. I occaisonally use GPS. My battery happily lasts two days, although it is very low by the end of the second day. I also turn the phone off overnight.
apd said:
.... I use push email constantly ....
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I found this to be my biggest problem. If I turn this on my battery is fully flat in about 6 hours. Until my new 1800mah battery arrives, i'm back to pop/smtp.
Just to be on the safe side I bought a cradle which also charges a spare battery, an extra ordinary size battery and every night charge the device and the spare. First thing in the morning I swap the batteries over and pack the fully charged spare. Got mine from gpsforless and it cost £17.99 with the spare battery. Bargain.
blimey, that was a bargain considering it includes a spare battery as well!
JanDaMan said:
Update your ROM and also make sure you use the .05 radio, as it has been shown to be better with battery life.
I find on average my phone will last 2 and a half days or so with moderate usage (i.e. few calls/day, texts, internet, few apps run, bit of gps), you may also consider changing your screen brightness to a low'ish setting as this will help preserve battery life and turning gprs off manually. but I do keep mine on auto brightness and with GPRS on the normal default setting
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I've ROM 1.37.411.2 RUS (original), Radio 1.00.25.03. Can I upgrade my radio to .05 and how I can do it? Because of I've the same trables with battery.
Thank you...
Sergio PC said:
This is what I know:
Every battery (doesent matter what kind) has for example 1000 charge cycles that will be 100% Strong. After the 1000 charges the rate starts to fall. You get only 90% after the 1000 charges ect.......
Soooo
You have to make the best out of your charges. The best way of doing this is by drastically cutting of charge sessions. You let it die and then charge it FULLY (and by fully i say till the Diamond tells you its full with its kick a** full circle.
Thats all fellas. Lucks to all!
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This is true for NI-CAD, but not for other types.
marisa4755 said:
Just to be on the safe side I bought a cradle which also charges a spare battery, an extra ordinary size battery and every night charge the device and the spare. First thing in the morning I swap the batteries over and pack the fully charged spare. Got mine from gpsforless and it cost £17.99 with the spare battery. Bargain.
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Got the same one. So far the battery life has not been great but I am hoping it will improve over time as some people are reportin. Will get a 1800 battery for power use.
Regards
I had exactly the same problem where my diamond battery barely lasted 3 hours.
Turned out to be a faulty phone, not the battery. Tell tale sign is if the Diamond gets hot below the battery, not the actual battery

Xperia battery life?

Could someone explain to me why the xperia's battery life is so short. xperia has a big battery with a lot of juice, 1500 MaH is very high. for example the htc diamond has 900 mah but the life time is almost the same.
i ordered now a mugen battery 1800Mah hope this wil add some more life time.
sinds i am using wm6.5 the life time is now a little bit longer. is it the OS that uses that much battery or is it the hardware?
mine last for 2-3days
thats long for me i do exactly 1 day with it.
How do you use it like have you connection with the internet all the time. do you make a lot of calls?
mine usage is i recieve emails, i;m interneting for not more than 20 min. and make some calls not very special.
It depends on what you do. If you don't use it at all D) or use it for calling/texting it will last 2 or 3 days.
If you use it for media purposes (music, video, etc.), it will last 1 day or less.
Wi-Fi or GPS will drain it in 2 or 3 hours.
Background apps drain the battery as well.
Mine rarely lasts more than 6 to 8 hours or 12 if I'm lucky, when I'm outside/travelling/working.
If I'm at home I keep it plugged in the charger all the time, otherwise it drains in 2 hours due to heavy use lol .
Lol thats very fast orelsi. i use sometimes gps and have always connection with 3g. thats why i bought a reserve battery for my xperia.
mostly my battery lest for 12 hours or something and when i dont use it a lot the battery life is 1 day.
Mine lasts from the morning (7 o'clock) until the evening (12 o'clock). That is 17 hours. Then I charge it overnight. I am using (Hotmail) push mail all day, thus the HSDPA connection is always on. Another e-mail address syncs every 5 hours. Wheather forecasts sync every 4 hours. Newsfeed syncs once a day. I listen to music for at least 3 hours a day, sometimes up to 5 or even 6. Sometimes also internet radio through WiFi (drains more). When I'm listening to music, the screen is off. I get maybe 10 text messages a day, which make the phone vibrate for maybe 10 seconds each. I answer to those. I surf for maybe 15 or 20 minutes a day, checking stocks regularily. That's it.
Thats nice, if im wanna listen music it cant last till 12 o'clock. i also start mine morning from 7 o'clock. but it will ben nicer if it could last for 3 days with same use. sometimes i'm not home for 2 days and can't charge it (dont have teh charger with me) but then the next morning it almost empty.
so for me i have to take a reserve battery with me
commodoor said:
Thats nice, if im wanna listen music it cant last till 12 o'clock. i also start mine morning from 7 o'clock. but it will ben nicer if it could last for 3 days with same use. sometimes i'm not home for 2 days and can't charge it (dont have teh charger with me) but then the next morning it almost empty.
so for me i have to take a reserve battery with me
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Little advice for you, maybe it helps a little: Do not shut down your phone overnight, but turn the phone function off, that is to say disconnect from the network. This is what I do. With software like Spb Phone Suite you can automate this process, so that it turns off all connections at midnight for example, and back on at seven. I also use it for volume adjustment, it changes ring volume when I plug in my headphones. Phone without headphones needs to be at 100% to barely hear it, but with headphones, this blasts your ear I find... So the software turns ring volume down to 20% when I plug the headphones in
thnx i didnt think of that. i will use that

[Q] Phone shuts off to 0% when used for over 30minutes (hot)

I have no complains with the speed of my z1 and its reliability. But after awhile (i have been using my phone for 1 year and 4 months now and no complain until now), my phone shuts off to 0% right after usign it for almost 30 minutes of extensive use (playing summoners war/family guy). But from the past yr i have no problem even if its too hot and drains the way it normally should, not until now. it is really annoying. It drains pretty bad from 100% to 70% then 30% to 13% then shutsoff . It still drains even when on sleep right after usign it for 30minutes. For example, playing for like 30 minutes, the battery will turn from 100% to 72% . Then after awhile on sleep for 30 minutes, the battery will be turn to 40-50% then the rest of the history will follow....
Not recently, i have noticed that waiting for my phone to cool off after it shuts off , will have it again another 50% of its life when u turn the power on again.
Before, i charge my phone for like 3 hours , now 1 hour and its full. :/ U Can really see the fault around here.
What to do ?
I have tried using Battery Calibration, Set CPU - all did not work.
This manifested after 2 months now.
Is my battery at fault?
what can i do?
Do i need to use another stock like CM12?
My phone is up to date.
Please i need ur help so badly. Any replies or same situations will help me .
nikkorob said:
I have no complains with the speed of my z1 and its reliability. But after awhile (i have been using my phone for 1 year and 4 months now and no complain until now), my phone shuts off to 0% right after usign it for almost 30 minutes of extensive use (playing summoners war/family guy). But from the past yr i have no problem even if its too hot and drains the way it normally should, not until now. it is really annoying. It drains pretty bad from 100% to 70% then 30% to 13% then shutsoff . It still drains even when on sleep right after usign it for 30minutes. For example, playing for like 30 minutes, the battery will turn from 100% to 72% . Then after awhile on sleep for 30 minutes, the battery will be turn to 40-50% then the rest of the history will follow....
Not recently, i have noticed that waiting for my phone to cool off after it shuts off , will have it again another 50% of its life when u turn the power on again.
Before, i charge my phone for like 3 hours , now 1 hour and its full. :/ U Can really see the fault around here.
What to do ?
I have tried using Battery Calibration, Set CPU - all did not work.
This manifested after 2 months now.
Is my battery at fault?
what can i do?
Do i need to use another stock like CM12?
My phone is up to date.
Please i need ur help so badly. Any replies or same situations will help me .
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Obviously your battery is at fault.
You battery must have expanded and this will go ON
See at the back of your device where is battery is located. It may have been little changed shape .I.e not flat surface little bugled
Go to service centre ASAP
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Daedroza said:
Obviously your battery is at fault.
You battery must have expanded and this will go ON
See at the back of your device where is battery is located. It may have been little changed shape .I.e not flat surface little bugled
Go to service centre ASAP
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YEAH! I noticed that ! I forgot to add that the back of my phone is bulging. (middle part)
Thankyou for that!

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