I want a kaiser!! - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

So I have been on here with my excalibur for some time..... I live in USA and would like an unlocked kaiser but would prefer used at around $200 instead of the $4-500 they are going for on ebay.... anybody have a lead?

Thats like saying you want a decent new car for under $10K... Good luck, but the going price on an unlocked Kaiser / Tilt is around $400.
End of last week, AT&T had $0 refurbished ones with a 2 year contract. From what I understand, you could get one of those, and pay for one month of service (so figuere $30 for a basic plan), then cancel and pay the $175 cancellation fee. So that would then be under $210 for a phone (but make sure you read and understand all of the catches before you commit to that. I've never tried to do that, so don't know if the $175 fee is all you'd have to pay or not).

thanks for the advice.... but I would also have to unlock it. Which I am familiar with excalibur but not this one yet...
Also I am ok with a USED CAR lol..... new isnt always worth paying for!!!

You only need to pay the one month of service plus the cancellation fee, problem is you have to get a data plan when you buy it+ the activation fee, that's 100$ for the first month add to that the cancellation fee that's 275$...

is there anyway around cancellation fee.... or does the trick of a military disconnect work like it does at tmobile? I could get service and then be "shipped" to Iraq. I know with tmo and qwest they have to allow you to cancel with no fees if this happens.....

nlarge said:
is there anyway around cancellation fee.... or does the trick of a military disconnect work like it does at tmobile? I could get service and then be "shipped" to Iraq. I know with tmo and qwest they have to allow you to cancel with no fees if this happens.....
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That really brings up an ethics question. But I'm not here to judge. Well maybe a little.

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That really brings up an ethics question. But I'm not here to judge. Well maybe a little.
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Ethics can be questioned in the cellphone industry as well.....

nlarge said:
Ethics can be questioned in the cellphone industry as well.....
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Not sure that some ELSE'S poor ethics justifies bad ethics onyour part though does it?
Bill

If you can't afford the ATT Tilt then you probably will not afford the Kaiser (unbranded TyTNII) which runs for $100 dollars more!

I would unlock it any way as I am on UStmo... but I have seen tricks for getting phones cheaply all over.... just not for this one!!

Your best bet is buying the AT&T Tilt. Unlocking is easy, see the wiki. The only thing you'd have to pay for, of course, is to cancel the contract. Or search eBay for used Tilts.

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How can you get the best price for the Tilt?

Hey guys, well with the Tilt coming out I want to get the best price, but I see that the best prices are giving to new customers. I'm already an AT&T customer and have a long time before I can upgrade. I currently have the 8525.
How can I get the Tilt for around $350? I don't know anyone at a store. Has anyone ever bought a phone as a "new" customer and then cancelled the service right away? What fees are payed and how exactly is this done?
Any advice?!
Sorry Man thats just a cheap question to ask... You get what you pay for is the best lesson in life. I dont think any here will help you plan BS
Your best bet is to wait 4-6 months after AT&T releases the tilt and then look to Ebay...
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Hey guys, well with the Tilt coming out I want to get the best price, but I see that the best prices are giving to new customers. I'm already an AT&T customer and have a long time before I can upgrade. I currently have the 8525.
How can I get the Tilt for around $350? I don't know anyone at a store. Has anyone ever bought a phone as a "new" customer and then cancelled the service right away? What fees are payed and how exactly is this done?
Any advice?!
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You can cancel the service, but seeing as how you will have a new contract they will charge you the cancel fee. If you cannot wait then you need to purchase the phone at whatever price they give you. Personally, I'm on a family plan and will be using the upgrade credit from another line to get the phone @ $299.
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Sorry Man thats just a cheap question to ask... You get what you pay for is the best lesson in life. I dont think any here will help you plan BS
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Cmon you don't get what you pay for with phones, -its a big game. Were all paying different prices for the same product.
I got screwed out of 200 bucks on an iphone for my wife because of 48 hrs.
We didn't create the game, the phone companies create the game were just trying to play it. if they just offered it for a price thats one thing, but there are 10 different ways to get this thing at a different price.
easiest way is someone else said, ad a phone an a family plan and reduce the other line to minimum. you ad 10 bucks a month to the bill and get the incentive. Basically your financing the incentive as you will pay 240$ over 2 years with the add on plan.
one thing you can do is to register for a business license and get a sellers permit then you can buy it from manufacturer at cost. just a thought...
treoreloaded said:
one thing you can do is to register for a business license and get a sellers permit then you can buy it from manufacturer at cost. just a thought...
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I do have a connection at a cingular store and one thing I learned is that they really only need about 6 months into the 2 year to upgrade you. I have never waited for upgrading. You have to be connected though which means go talk to a rep and make a friend and then bring a red bull in the next time as a peace offering
That's not all you need. Good luck getting the manufacturer to give you a good price on one unit.
The best prices are usually for corporate customers, and by corporate I don't mean "business license", I mean "big company that buys MANY phones and service contracts". Basically the best price you can get is a matter of luck and who you know - There are usually no extra tricks available. Either you're eligible for certain deals or you're not.
amazon has it for $50 after rebates with a new service...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WSP16I
You might find brand new tilt at ebay for around $370. (Sim locked though.) It is not easy to find though. I watched a few of them. The cheapest I watched was $365 for a brand new tilt sim locked.
You can easily unlocked yourself.
Sales / Rebates
You could wait for one of AT&T's sales to buy it at $250.00 with a $100.00 rebate. Then call AT&T and if you get a nice representative, ask if they will process the rebate for you; which, if they do, may take the shape of a 'courtesy credit', bringing you down to $150.00. Then, fill out the rebate form, mail it in, and wait. Once you get the rebate, the phone will have been $50.00.
I've been looking for a good deal on a tilt for a while. It doesn't even have to be a still but just a good price. On AT&T site its not that good of a dea plus the fact I have to renew my contract which I'm only 2 months away from being out of.
Listen, all you have to do is go to amazon.com. They will sell you the phone for 200 dollars! All you have to do is either sign up for a two year contract with att or renew your contract. Also you cant break your contract or change your service package for 6 months. I did it and I have a very nice tilt....Filled with a whole bunch of stuff. It would be filled with more if people would response a little faster on this damn forum.
I upgraded from my old razr to a tilt and i got it straight up for $185 with no data plan or anything from the cingular store.

AT&T Tilt now available on Premier Website

Just logged in to my company's AT&T Premier site - the Tilt is available now for $399 (!). I was hoping for $299 before rebates......
warwickwebb said:
Just logged in to my company's AT&T Premier site - the Tilt is available now for $399 (!). I was hoping for $299 before rebates......
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P.S. Looks like I can upgrade to the Tilt (no new contract) for $399 as well - I chose 'Upgrade Device Only', which allowed me to keep my current plan unchanged (including my trusty Medianet service).
yep, i was just getting ready to post this..
Included Accessories
1350 mAh Lithium Ion Polymer Battery
AC Wall Charger
Mini USB Sync Cable
Stylus
Extra Sylus
My wallet is at work and AT&T has the Tilt ready for me
Yeah I was hoping for a better price too. If you do the upgrade device only, I know it leaves your plan intact. Does it extend your contract 2 years though?
Where the heck is PDA Personal Max? Does anyone have it in their list? I HAVE a cell card, I don't need tethering, dagnabit!
And no data plan discount? We're better off getting it from the retail site!
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Yeah I was hoping for a better price too. If you do the upgrade device only, I know it leaves your plan intact. Does it extend your contract 2 years though?
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I'm wondering the same thing - I got to the very end of the process and had to click to agree to a Service Agreement that specified 2yrs. I asked this same question in another thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334349&page=3
Richard
I had an option to upgrade the phone only for 399 or upgrade the device and plan as well..so i tried to see if price is goona changed it did,instant 100$ off and 25 dollar instant credit..275 plus tax and 18 dollar upgrade fee because I bought the 8525 like 3 months ago. because it seemed like I bought new plan and data plan,I can get the 100 MIR as well,they won't have esxuce not to give,,I saved 225$..so I really don't understand the big deal if they exttend the contract you know..if a better phone comes I can do the same process over and over again,with out having to wait 2 years,,so the money I will save over time is justified if I have to abondan my contract and pay 175$ one day.. what do you guys think?
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II really don't understand the big deal if they exttend the contract you know
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FWIW, in the other thread I referenced above, at least one person has confirmed contract extension showing on his account after the $399 deal
As far as the "big deal" on contract, my company pays for my phone and the monthly bill is a LOT more than I'd carry personally. I don't want to be at my company's mercy if they decide they don't need me to have a phone (or don't need me at all) with 23 mos left on a contract. Sure, they *SHOULD* cover the ETF but why risk it....
Richard
in your case yeah its a big deal but for me when I just saved over 200 with the extention,I don't mind the possibility to be punished 175 only. 399+tax VS 274.99+tax is a difference that I can't let go,couldn't live with myself haha.I can extent again in 6 months if they come up with a better phone..so I am in control and getting the discounts ..you know...but for you ,no contract is clean and necessary..

WHOA!! I Just Bought A Tilt For $265.00 Brand Spankin New From A Corp Store!!!!

Thank you corporate America. Sorry yall, I couldnt hold it in, I had to express my joy to the world! Good bye hermes/8525, you've served me well!
so how's that? is that with a rebate, or out the door?
did you get a special discount?
out the door, retail, no contract, no upgrade!!! special discount!
Any way we can get a name or a photo of the reciept or something that we could take to corp store to prove it? I went to a corp store yesterday, and they refused to go below $399 even though I have a premier account.
Almost exact same deal I got. My Premiere discount is 60% on equipment's retail price. I got it for $240 + tax, no contract or extension, just out the door.
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Any way we can get a name or a photo of the reciept or something that we could take to corp store to prove it? I went to a corp store yesterday, and they refused to go below $399 even though I have a premier account.
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has anyone realized that best buy has been doing this for the longest?
since the tilt came out.
$250 a 2 year contract (369 one year..something like that) no rebate forms,pda plan required....what so ever.
some guys at ny.. times square tried to tell me that the att tilt simply wouldn't work without a pda plan therefore i must or i needed to add it to the two year plan/contract. As far as i know they dont advertise it though, but i couldnt even find it through their website..... -
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EDIT: ok now i know why he had to tell it to the world... no contract... thats good deal...
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Almost exact same deal I got. My Premiere discount is 60% on equipment's retail price. I got it for $240 + tax, no contract or extension, just out the door.
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Bingo lol!
im getting mine for 250 at the store...just waiting for a new batch to come in
Can someone explain what the big deal is with getting the phone for $250 with no contract? What good does that do? So you can use the phone on a no commitment, either prepaid or pay-as-you go plan? If you go that route you are going to pay considerably more than if you signed up for a 2 year contract, so it doesn't really make sense financially.
I can get the premier discount through my university, but why when newegg has it for $150 with a 2 year contract, free shipping, no tax?? That's exactly what I did.
The only advantage I can see for buying it through premier is if you are trying to upgrade your phone in the middle of your contract. Other than that, newegg still has the best deal. Period. If I am misunderstanding something please explain.
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Can someone explain what the big deal is with getting the phone for $250 with no contract? What good does that do? So you can use the phone on a no commitment, either prepaid or pay-as-you go plan? If you go that route you are going to pay considerably more than if you signed up for a 2 year contract, so it doesn't really make sense financially.
I can get the premier discount through my university, but why when newegg has it for $150 with a 2 year contract, free shipping, no tax?? That's exactly what I did.
The only advantage I can see for buying it through premier is if you are trying to upgrade your phone in the middle of your contract. Other than that, newegg still has the best deal. Period. If I am misunderstanding something please explain.
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daaanngg, can you send me that link??
Because a lot of people already are in the middle of a 2 year contract, and don't want to wait 14 months until they can get the Kaiser for less than the cost of a used car.
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daaanngg, can you send me that link??
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Sure can: here
Also, for those who don't want to wait for newegg to get them in stock (cuz they keep running out), amazon has it for $200 (I think) w/ 2 year contract.
How do you get a premier plan?
I spend a **** load on my bill, What is premier? I have a $200 dollar a month plan! But I don't think I'm premier..
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Can someone explain what the big deal is with getting the phone for $250 with no contract? What good does that do? So you can use the phone on a no commitment, either prepaid or pay-as-you go plan? If you go that route you are going to pay considerably more than if you signed up for a 2 year contract, so it doesn't really make sense financially.
I can get the premier discount through my university, but why when newegg has it for $150 with a 2 year contract, free shipping, no tax?? That's exactly what I did.
The only advantage I can see for buying it through premier is if you are trying to upgrade your phone in the middle of your contract. Other than that, newegg still has the best deal. Period. If I am misunderstanding something please explain.
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thx for the link, but yeah that deal wouldnt benefit me in the long run becuz i have a GF data plan(19.99=unlmt internet 1500txt 50mms). Contract upgrades wouldve shifted me to a 44.99 plan! So I think i did good!
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I spend a **** load on my bill, What is premier? I have a $200 dollar a month plan! But I don't think I'm premier..
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Certain businesses, universities, and other organizations have partnerships with AT&T that will give their employees or members "premier" accounts with AT&T.
To see if you are eligible go to:
https://www.wireless.att.com/business/authenticate/
and enter your work/school/govt email.
marm0lade said:
Certain businesses, universities, and other organizations have partnerships with AT&T that will give their employees or members "premier" accounts with AT&T.
To see if you are eligible go to:
https://www.wireless.att.com/business/authenticate/
and enter your work/school/govt email.
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Well poo... I tried and it did not work.. Does anyone know of a SOCAL business ir university that has this option? Sure I could find some one to buy it for me
Stop complaining ... any price lower than $800 is cheap ;-) ... I bought mine for $900 - that's the price in DK right now.
/Inc
Inc said:
Stop complaining ... any price lower than $800 is cheap ;-) ... I bought mine for $900 - that's the price in DK right now.
/Inc
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My friend, I'm not complaining, just looking for a deal! I just bought my first home for 700K and I'm now what we call house poor So my new wifey does not let me spend money like I use to be able to hehe.. SOCAL sucks
Where is DK anyway?
I did a google on DK and came up with "Donkey Kong Country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
LMAO!
not to sound ignorant or disrespectful
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I did a google on DK and came up with "Donkey Kong Country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
LMAO!
not to sound ignorant or disrespectful
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HA thats funny, i was thinking the same thing lol!!! now lets see how much i can get the iphone for!(present for my pops)

Anyone cancel their plan and recieve google ETF? This IS the cheapest way to get a N1

Okay first off, this is a thread also to show all the people who bombarded me with smart comments about how i WILL definitely recieve a $200 ETF from T-Mobile for cancelling my plan for my nexus...I did not.
This isn't a mean thread either, I just wanted to let everyone know that this did work, So here i am even after being told that I would NEVER come back to say if it worked or not, because i was scared of the "flaming."
So here I am waiting for Google to charge me the $150 ETF, but it still hasn't happened and it has been over 2 months since i cancelled my T Mobile account.
So here I am (Lucky or maybe just waiting) with my nexus which now only has cost $212 without a contract
Order with T mobile contract for $179
Taxes and all that stuff brought it to $212
T MOBILE ETF $0
Google ETF 150??
Final price $212 (for now)
So has anyone cancelled and recieved the ETF yet? I cancelled and the T Mobile rep said to just hand the nexus back over to the fedex guy so maybe T mobile screwed up something but in the end im sure google knows that that phone is in use right now? But also this was close to the time when the nexus store was Closing or they ran out of phones so maybe that confused something? Or most likely, I am just waiting and will recieve it someday.
sassyness77 is pretty smart
someone loves sassyness77!
and it's his girlfriend <3
Nobody else likes you, because you're taking stuff at someone else's expense. When you cancelled T-Mobile, they charged back the commission that Google used to subsidize your phone. Google is out a few hundred bucks right now. You seem to think it's all okay because YOU didn't have to pay what you owe. That makes you a parasite, an unrepentant one at that since you seem happy to brag about getting away with it (for now at least).
This isn't howardforums, if you want to brag about exploiting companies, go there for a receptive audience.
Okay, whoa. I'm sorry you feel angry about this but to call me a parasite? Calm down. As if this truely hurts Google, all I did was find a smarter way to save money in all honesty.
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Nobody else likes you, because you're taking stuff at someone else's expense. When you cancelled T-Mobile, they charged back the commission that Google used to subsidize your phone. Google is out a few hundred bucks right now. You seem to think it's all okay because YOU didn't have to pay what you owe. That makes you a parasite, an unrepentant one at that since you seem happy to brag about getting away with it (for now at least).
This isn't howardforums, if you want to brag about exploiting companies, go there for a receptive audience.
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wtf you talking about. what do you think googles ERF is for? if google feels the loss they will charge them for it ... @OP
id wait 4 months before celebrating...thats when they will realize tmos not paying the subsidy
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Okay, whoa. I'm sorry you feel angry about this but to call me a parasite? Calm down. As if this truely hurts Google, all I did was find a smarter way to save money in all honesty.
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Not sure how, but you're confusing dishonesty for intelligence. Parasite was the appropriate term, as what you did amounts to stealing and fraud.
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Okay, whoa. I'm sorry you feel angry about this but to call me a parasite? Calm down. As if this truely hurts Google, all I did was find a smarter way to save money in all honesty.
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If you do not like the term, don't be a parasite. You KNOW a Nexus One doesn't cost what you paid for it. You KNOW someone had to take that loss. It doesn't matter if they never charge you back, that's just your feeble attempt at justifying yourself. Off the top of my head, I can think of a few ways to dodge the charge (most of which are more clever than what you're taking pride in). I didn't do any of them because...wait for it...I'm not a parasite.
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wtf you talking about. what do you think googles ERF is for? if google feels the loss they will charge them for it ... @OP
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I am fully aware of what the ERF is for, apparently you don't, so I'll break it down for you.
1) HTC makes, sells and delivers a N1 to Google, HTC charges Google somewhere around, but probably somewhat less than, $530.
2) T-Mobile pays Google a commission for every 2 year contract signed over a N1. New activations pay more than upgrades, which is why the N1 costs more when upgrading your plan.
3) Google takes this commission, and gives it to you by subsidizing the phone down to as low as $180. That $350 difference comes from T-Mobile paying Google.
4) You buy the phone, and pay for the service. Google either gets paid immediately (and receives a chargeback if you cancel or downgrade) or doesn't get a check until you've had the service for 120 days (not sure which, since I'm not privy to the specifics of their agreement, but it's one or the other, probably the former as that's the general way the US cellphone market works).
5) T-Mobile, like most US carriers, uses a billing system which will automatically apply sales commissions on activations, and chargebacks on cancellations. As such, the moment you cancel, T-Mobile's systems take back their money.
6) This leaves Google out the amount of your subsidy ($250-$350), which is essentially the cost of the phone, minus what you paid for it($180-$280). Whether or not they (rightfully) charge you for that loss is irrelevant to the fact they took a material loss.
Welcome to how the real world works. For more info, go to college, or get a job.
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I am fully aware of what the ERF is for, apparently you don't, so I'll break it down for you.
1) HTC makes, sells and delivers a N1 to Google, HTC charges Google somewhere around, but probably somewhat less than, $530.
2) T-Mobile pays Google a commission for every 2 year contract signed over a N1. New activations pay more than upgrades, which is why the N1 costs more when upgrading your plan.
3) Google takes this commission, and gives it to you by subsidizing the phone down to as low as $180. That $350 difference comes from T-Mobile paying Google.
4) You buy the phone, and pay for the service. Google either gets paid immediately (and receives a chargeback if you cancel or downgrade) or doesn't get a check until you've had the service for 120 days (not sure which, since I'm not privy to the specifics of their agreement, but it's one or the other, probably the former as that's the general way the US cellphone market works).
5) T-Mobile, like most US carriers, uses a billing system which will automatically apply sales commissions on activations, and chargebacks on cancellations. As such, the moment you cancel, T-Mobile's systems take back their money.
6) This leaves Google out the amount of your subsidy ($250-$350), which is essentially the cost of the phone, minus what you paid for it($180-$280). Whether or not they (rightfully) charge you for that loss is irrelevant to the fact they took a material loss.
Welcome to how the real world works. For more info, go to college, or get a job.
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Google changed their ERF because they felt they could take the loss vs customer backlash who would be forced to pay $750 for the nexus if they werent satisfied with Tmobile. It used to be $350, now its $150. Thats called business.
You do not know the deal that tmobile and google made with each other for the specific subsidy amounts. Tmobile pays google once the 120 days of service are up
FYI i have a B.S.S.E and a minor in business. Its not being a parasite for using valid methods to get a phone for cheap. I dont think you have any understand how business works but you just like to throw around things everyone already knows and thinks it helps your argument...but it doesnt
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You do not know the deal that tmobile and google made with each other for the specific subsidy amounts. Tmobile pays google once the 120 days of service are up
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The "subsidy" is obvious, $250 to $350, because the subsidy is what YOU get. I never said what the "commission" is, and acknowledged I cannot know when the payment is sent, or the exact amount. Try to use the correct word when arguing with people.
...but since you've basically agreed that T-Mobile is financing everything, I rest my case.
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...but since you've basically agreed that T-Mobile is financing everything, I rest my case.
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Perfectly stated.....
This thread is going to turn into nothing but flaming... @Op, you knew that starting the thread.... Why? Why do it? Just to brag and wait for how many different ways people can call you out on "ripping off a nexus one?".....
I'm not hear to discuss the issue of getting an n1 for cheap, just to call you out on posting a thread KNOWING you'll get nothing but negative responses..... A lot of that going on on XDA lately and it's kinda sad.....
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The "subsidy" is obvious, $250 to $350, because the subsidy is what YOU get. I never said what the "commission" is, and acknowledged I cannot know when the payment is sent, or the exact amount. Try to use the correct word when arguing with people.
...but since you've basically agreed that T-Mobile is financing everything, I rest my case.
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The last part of that statement WAS to tell you when google got their payment.
Tmobile does NOT give google the payment if you cancel your contract. Thats when google steps in and gets their "commission" from you instead of tmo
When you buy the phone from google, you pay google 179. When you have been with tmobile for 120 days, tmobile pays google the rest of the money at their agreed upon rate (between 150-350, we dont know) if you cancel, google takes 150 to take their material losses.
Tmobile isnt footing anything, google is. and google makes sure they dont take a loss from this kind of situation. Note the phone's hardware costs $175, so the immediate material loss is already paid for when you buy the phone.
Congrats, you ripped someone off.
Your mistake was thinking anyone here would care. If you wanted "ZOMG DEWD GRATS BRAH!!!!!11one!!1" you're in the wrong forum.
Yadda yadda, someone is a db.. Let's just wave our hands until the Mods see and close this thread..
Due to the nature of the thread, I will close it down.

How to upgrade early

Ok, So here's my plan:
1. Go to AT&T website. Login. Add a line
2. Choose the phone I want with that new line for the discounted price or free with two year contract.
3. Receive the phone in the mail with brand new sim and everthing
4. Only take the phone out the box never touch the sim, unlock the phone, put different sim from another phone service in it and start using the phone with that service (or simply swap the sim for the line I'm already using)
5. Never activate the new line
Will i still have to pay for the second line if I never activate it? Or do I walk away sky free with my new phone?
someone said they have done this and it worked, I want feedback before I try and end up getting stuck paying another bill for a second line I don't need or want.
Wonder if this works? Would love to know!
Sent From My GR-11Captivate!
Eventually they will wonder what happened to the phone they sent to you and either ask for it back or activate it on their end I am sure. What do you do when you don't send a phone back to them?
aka how to try to cheat the system and fail
this won't work because when you agree to purchase at the discounted price, it comes with the expressed agreement that you are creating a new line that you will use and pay for 1 year or 2 years. if you do not activate the line, you will be charged for a line cancelation/ETF. without any months used, that means you'll pay for discounted price of phone and an ETF of at least $350
basically, AT&T isn't stupid. if you've thought of this idea, it's likely they have as well.
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aka how to try to cheat the system and fail
this won't work because when you agree to purchase at the discounted price, it comes with the expressed agreement that you are creating a new line that you will use and pay for 1 year or 2 years. if you do not activate the line, you will be charged for a line cancelation/ETF. without any months used, that means you'll pay for discounted price of phone and an ETF of at least $350
basically, AT&T isn't stupid. if you've thought of this idea, it's likely they have as well.
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I don't know....That's why I asked second opinions, but how can they cancel what was never activated? And I haven't signed any agreements? So why would I pay a early termination fee for something I never activated, or terminated?
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Eventually they will wonder what happened to the phone they sent to you and either ask for it back or activate it on their end I am sure. What do you do when you don't send a phone back to them?
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Why would you have to send something back that you paid for? That's like buying something from Wal-mart, and not using it the way it was supposed to be used so they ask you to bring it back... Not Likely. Lol
Klyentel said:
And I haven't signed any agreements? So why would I pay a early termination fee for something I never activated, or terminated?
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clicking agree is the same thing as signing your name on paper.
when you go to the web site and ask for a second line (with a phone) you must click "agree" to a contract. read the contract. you agree to pay for the phone if you do not activate the second line with a 2 year(or whatever) contract. that is why they send you a phone, because you agree to be a customer for a couple years.
Klyentel said:
Why would you have to send something back that you paid for? That's like buying something from Wal-mart, and not using it the way it was supposed to be used so they ask you to bring it back... Not Likely. Lol
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when you buy something from walmart you BUY it, you PAY MONEY for it. so OF COURSE they wouldnt ask you to bring it back. but if you RENT a car, and dont bring it back, they charge your credit card, as you agreed too.
yeah dont do that! someone may have fallen through the cracks here and there, but believe me they dont give you the phone on just good faith. they can charge you for the phone full price on the credit card, they can activate your line anyway and charge you for the two years of service, they can put it on your credit report, and they can charge you with theft. maybe they have a bad system and people get away with it, maybe in a court you can get a really good lawyer and get out of it for only lawyer and court fees(more expensive anyway) but all in all it is not a good idea.
Kyle...
for more information on " clicking agree " please go to
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and watch the season 15 premier of South Park
Human-cent-i-pad
- (official site no legal issues)
"why wont it read?"
Well glad I didn't try it, but I do know someone that got away with it. Maybe they got lucky.
TRusselo said:
when you buy something from walmart you BUY it, you PAY MONEY for it. so OF COURSE they wouldnt ask you to bring it back. but if you RENT a car, and dont bring it back, they charge your credit card, as you agreed too.
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Unless it's offered for free, you do actually pay for the phone though. You just get a discounted price.
Eample, if the phone retails at $599, they give it to you for $199 if you agree to two years of service.
So after you pay the offered price, the phone is yours. They cannot ask for it back, regardless if you terminate service early or whatever. And they charge your credit card right up front before they even ship it out. So that is what I met by the Wal Mart analogy, Once you pay for something its yours
its called early termination fee... they get the rest of the cost of the phone out of you.
so ya pay 0$ or $199 on a more expensive phone, you can keep it and not do the contract
but you have to pay for cancelling the contract.. so you basically pay the remainder of the phone.
and EVERYONE else that has even bothered answering this thread agrees.
face it you are wrong.
and lcd damage
water damage
brick...
your sig doesnt inspire trust in you....
TRusselo said:
its called early termination fee... they get the rest of the cost of the phone out of you.
so ya pay 0$ or $199 on a more expensive phone, you can keep it and not do the contract
but you have to pay for cancelling the contract.. so you basically pay the remainder of the phone.
and EVERYONE else that has even bothered answering this thread agrees.
face it you are wrong.
and lcd damage
water damage
brick...
your sig doesnt inspire trust in you....
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Wtf? I never said I was right! All I did was ask for some feedback you prick. I just wanted to see what others thought before I tried, and now I know. Now why are you getting so sensitive about the issue? Do you work for AT&T or something? Dam.
And my sig has nothing to do with you, and most those phones weren't mine they were my wifes, except for the G1, either way not your concern, go inspire a life
TRusselo said:
its called early termination fee... they get the rest of the cost of the phone out of you.
so ya pay 0$ or $199 on a more expensive phone, you can keep it and not do the contract
but you have to pay for cancelling the contract.. so you basically pay the remainder of the phone.
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Since you like correcting people, and I'm sure 1400 of your 1700+ posts on xda are probably you being a ****....Allow me to correct you.
Just because you inquire a fee for something it does not reflect the price value of the merchandise. Example, you pay $199 for a phone that is originally $599, you cancel contract early and pay the ETF of $250 ( I don't know where the **** you got $350 from ) You look at it as if you paid full price of the phone right? Wrong. You may have spent in total almost 500 bucks anyway, but not on the phone. Because if you paid full price for the phone which is $599 plus the ETF of $250...your total spent would be about 850 dollars. Big difference right? Right.
Moral to the story, before you try to be a smart ass, you first have to be smart, otherwise, that just makes you an ass!
i never started name calling or being sensitive, and obviously i dont work for att im canadian.
why did you bother asking us if you know you are right?
im done.
grow up.
Thread closed, since this won't lead to nothing. Also, discussion in how to avoid payment or leaning to cheating it doesn't sound good.
If you want to do it, do it. No need to discuss it in a public forum.

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