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Question about using Sprint's contract change to get a Hero...

First, sorry if this is in the wrong forum... I just know that this was dicussed a while back.
So my sister is tired of her Blackberry being a piece of junk, and she saw my Hero, and was like "omg. that phone is so much better than my BB". So, since Sprint changed their contract, I can cancel a line for free right now. Is it possible to take advantage of it, and cancel her line, and then sign her up again so she can get a Hero at a subsidized rate? Because my dad was just at the Sprint store, and he said he asked them and they just said she would still have to pay the unsubsidized price. Would it work if I cancelled the line over the phone, and then signed her line up again through Sprint.com? I just want to know if anyone has done this or knows how I would go about doing this...
Thanks

Yes, that "should" be fairly easy to accomplish.
I intend to get them to just release my current upgrade status so that if something awesome comes out this spring, I'm immediately upgrade eligible.
However, like anything else customer service related, it depends who you get on the other end of the line, and how well you deal with them.
The best tact I can think of is to be totally courteous and respectful, and moderately honest. Tell them you realize that $.50 is no big deal, but since you can legally back out, and since the Nexus one just got released, you're weighing your options. Tell them you'd rather stay with sprint, but it'd be hard to resist the draw of an even better android device on a similarly priced carrier.
If you handle it right, it shouldn't be too tough to get them to upgrade your other phone to a hero at the upgrade price.

Ahh wow thanks! That means I should not only get my sister a Hero, but also ask them to release my upgrade status too... actually, all of my family's upgrade status

mrinehart93 said:
Ahh wow thanks! That means I should not only get my sister a Hero, but also ask them to release my upgrade status too... actually, all of my family's upgrade status
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Correct.
That might not be so easy to accomplish, however, since you don't have an immediate end game..
They'll interpret it as you wanting to be released from your contract but without terminating service. I believe some people have done exactly that successfully, but in general, they won't do that. You need to be very clear that you want to be made upgrade eligible, not necessarily released from your contract completely.. YOu also want them to give you that in writing, so that when a device does come out that you want, you won't have a big fight with them.

I was thinking of trying to use this to get a hero also. I know carriers will try to give you incentives to stay, but does anyone think they could give a Hero as an incentive?

krymzon40 said:
I was thinking of trying to use this to get a hero also. I know carriers will try to give you incentives to stay, but does anyone think they could give a Hero as an incentive?
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I doubt you'd get one free, but this is a perfect opportunity to tell them essentially "look, I can legally break my contract and go get another phone subsidized with another carrier (like the nexus one). You can keep me as a customer if you'll give me a fully subsidized upgrade with a new 2 year contract"
I'd word it more diplomatically than that, but that's the message you're trying to relay.. Someone is going to get your business for the next two years, and it might as well be them.

should we call retentions directly? I recently got my htc hero with a 2 year upgrade.. my sister isn't eligible for an upgrade for another year.. Should I just call and ask if they can reset our eligibility? I'm really not trying to hijack this thread, but I figured I'd ask.

I believe you guys have until Jan 31... cancellation direct # 8777754886

If any one has tried this, let us know here. Let use know the method you used and if you were successful. It'd be nice to upgrade to the next Android phone at a discounted price.

They broke the contract, so you can back out of it.
But they can say no when you attempt to enter a new one.

What is the contract change you guys are talking about?

The price increase in administrative fees

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The price increase in administrative fees
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Thanks for that, I am going to reserch and see when that took affect. I signed up in Oct 09.

the other way you can back out is if you are a new customer with an ASL on your account. If you dont enroll in autopay they will add 4.99 a month to your bill. That will allow you to cancel your contract but they wont let you go month to month.

Orangeandblue302 said:
the other way you can back out is if you are a new customer with an ASL on your account. If you dont enroll in autopay they will add 4.99 a month to your bill. That will allow you to cancel your contract but they wont let you go month to month.
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Do you know if anyone has been able to get them to reset the phone upgrade eligibility?

Allowed me to switch phones.
Hey everyone. Last week I was completely irritated with my Palm Pre. The UI is amazing and has tons of potential in the future, but the hardware issues and battery drain had finally pushed me to the breaking point. I called *2, pressed the option to cancel, and after explaining the situation in addition to the material change of contract, an account manager told me that I could go into the Sprint store and get them to swap my device for a different type of phone. She did not guarantee which phone it would be though. The store, after reading the notes on my account, instantly let me switch for a Hero when I asked.
On the phone:
When I mentioned the material change of contract that Sprint was implementing on the 10th they were instantly listening and ready to help. I expressed my concerns over the Pre and that I needed to get into a different phone - even if that means canceling with no ETF and going with another provider. I was already on my 3rd Pre replacement and I've been with Sprint for 10 years, so that might have helped my situation a bit. Maybe this made me a special case scenario, but the contract change situation I believe is what sealed the deal. If your current phone is giving you issues, calling Sprint is at least worth a try during this change of contract! Also, be nice on the phone.

Can I still get out of my contract without an ETF even if the new charges don't apply to me?
I'm not exactly sure what the charges are...
Also, if you cancel your contract, does service end at the end of the month you cancel on?

i have a question, if you back out of your contract and set your account up for cancellation, can you set ut a NEW account with the same phone(different #) and the go month to month on the new account

It would apply to all everyone has admin fees.
And no, its the plan and phone with a contract length, minimum you can do is a 1 yr with the business data essentials plan .

lv2bll said:
i have a question, if you back out of your contract and set your account up for cancellation, can you set ut a NEW account with the same phone(different #) and the go month to month on the new account
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its my understanding that the only way to go month to month is if your contract is fulfilled for the whole time you signed up for if you cancel you account they will shut your phone off that day also there is no guarantee that they will allow you to start a new contract if you just canceled (at least under the same name)

Anyone cancel their plan and recieve google ETF? This IS the cheapest way to get a N1

Okay first off, this is a thread also to show all the people who bombarded me with smart comments about how i WILL definitely recieve a $200 ETF from T-Mobile for cancelling my plan for my nexus...I did not.
This isn't a mean thread either, I just wanted to let everyone know that this did work, So here i am even after being told that I would NEVER come back to say if it worked or not, because i was scared of the "flaming."
So here I am waiting for Google to charge me the $150 ETF, but it still hasn't happened and it has been over 2 months since i cancelled my T Mobile account.
So here I am (Lucky or maybe just waiting) with my nexus which now only has cost $212 without a contract
Order with T mobile contract for $179
Taxes and all that stuff brought it to $212
T MOBILE ETF $0
Google ETF 150??
Final price $212 (for now)
So has anyone cancelled and recieved the ETF yet? I cancelled and the T Mobile rep said to just hand the nexus back over to the fedex guy so maybe T mobile screwed up something but in the end im sure google knows that that phone is in use right now? But also this was close to the time when the nexus store was Closing or they ran out of phones so maybe that confused something? Or most likely, I am just waiting and will recieve it someday.

sassyness77 is pretty smart
someone loves sassyness77!
and it's his girlfriend <3

Nobody else likes you, because you're taking stuff at someone else's expense. When you cancelled T-Mobile, they charged back the commission that Google used to subsidize your phone. Google is out a few hundred bucks right now. You seem to think it's all okay because YOU didn't have to pay what you owe. That makes you a parasite, an unrepentant one at that since you seem happy to brag about getting away with it (for now at least).
This isn't howardforums, if you want to brag about exploiting companies, go there for a receptive audience.

Okay, whoa. I'm sorry you feel angry about this but to call me a parasite? Calm down. As if this truely hurts Google, all I did was find a smarter way to save money in all honesty.

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Nobody else likes you, because you're taking stuff at someone else's expense. When you cancelled T-Mobile, they charged back the commission that Google used to subsidize your phone. Google is out a few hundred bucks right now. You seem to think it's all okay because YOU didn't have to pay what you owe. That makes you a parasite, an unrepentant one at that since you seem happy to brag about getting away with it (for now at least).
This isn't howardforums, if you want to brag about exploiting companies, go there for a receptive audience.
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wtf you talking about. what do you think googles ERF is for? if google feels the loss they will charge them for it ... @OP
id wait 4 months before celebrating...thats when they will realize tmos not paying the subsidy

sassyness77 said:
Okay, whoa. I'm sorry you feel angry about this but to call me a parasite? Calm down. As if this truely hurts Google, all I did was find a smarter way to save money in all honesty.
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Not sure how, but you're confusing dishonesty for intelligence. Parasite was the appropriate term, as what you did amounts to stealing and fraud.

sassyness77 said:
Okay, whoa. I'm sorry you feel angry about this but to call me a parasite? Calm down. As if this truely hurts Google, all I did was find a smarter way to save money in all honesty.
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If you do not like the term, don't be a parasite. You KNOW a Nexus One doesn't cost what you paid for it. You KNOW someone had to take that loss. It doesn't matter if they never charge you back, that's just your feeble attempt at justifying yourself. Off the top of my head, I can think of a few ways to dodge the charge (most of which are more clever than what you're taking pride in). I didn't do any of them because...wait for it...I'm not a parasite.
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wtf you talking about. what do you think googles ERF is for? if google feels the loss they will charge them for it ... @OP
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I am fully aware of what the ERF is for, apparently you don't, so I'll break it down for you.
1) HTC makes, sells and delivers a N1 to Google, HTC charges Google somewhere around, but probably somewhat less than, $530.
2) T-Mobile pays Google a commission for every 2 year contract signed over a N1. New activations pay more than upgrades, which is why the N1 costs more when upgrading your plan.
3) Google takes this commission, and gives it to you by subsidizing the phone down to as low as $180. That $350 difference comes from T-Mobile paying Google.
4) You buy the phone, and pay for the service. Google either gets paid immediately (and receives a chargeback if you cancel or downgrade) or doesn't get a check until you've had the service for 120 days (not sure which, since I'm not privy to the specifics of their agreement, but it's one or the other, probably the former as that's the general way the US cellphone market works).
5) T-Mobile, like most US carriers, uses a billing system which will automatically apply sales commissions on activations, and chargebacks on cancellations. As such, the moment you cancel, T-Mobile's systems take back their money.
6) This leaves Google out the amount of your subsidy ($250-$350), which is essentially the cost of the phone, minus what you paid for it($180-$280). Whether or not they (rightfully) charge you for that loss is irrelevant to the fact they took a material loss.
Welcome to how the real world works. For more info, go to college, or get a job.

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I am fully aware of what the ERF is for, apparently you don't, so I'll break it down for you.
1) HTC makes, sells and delivers a N1 to Google, HTC charges Google somewhere around, but probably somewhat less than, $530.
2) T-Mobile pays Google a commission for every 2 year contract signed over a N1. New activations pay more than upgrades, which is why the N1 costs more when upgrading your plan.
3) Google takes this commission, and gives it to you by subsidizing the phone down to as low as $180. That $350 difference comes from T-Mobile paying Google.
4) You buy the phone, and pay for the service. Google either gets paid immediately (and receives a chargeback if you cancel or downgrade) or doesn't get a check until you've had the service for 120 days (not sure which, since I'm not privy to the specifics of their agreement, but it's one or the other, probably the former as that's the general way the US cellphone market works).
5) T-Mobile, like most US carriers, uses a billing system which will automatically apply sales commissions on activations, and chargebacks on cancellations. As such, the moment you cancel, T-Mobile's systems take back their money.
6) This leaves Google out the amount of your subsidy ($250-$350), which is essentially the cost of the phone, minus what you paid for it($180-$280). Whether or not they (rightfully) charge you for that loss is irrelevant to the fact they took a material loss.
Welcome to how the real world works. For more info, go to college, or get a job.
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Google changed their ERF because they felt they could take the loss vs customer backlash who would be forced to pay $750 for the nexus if they werent satisfied with Tmobile. It used to be $350, now its $150. Thats called business.
You do not know the deal that tmobile and google made with each other for the specific subsidy amounts. Tmobile pays google once the 120 days of service are up
FYI i have a B.S.S.E and a minor in business. Its not being a parasite for using valid methods to get a phone for cheap. I dont think you have any understand how business works but you just like to throw around things everyone already knows and thinks it helps your argument...but it doesnt

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You do not know the deal that tmobile and google made with each other for the specific subsidy amounts. Tmobile pays google once the 120 days of service are up
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The "subsidy" is obvious, $250 to $350, because the subsidy is what YOU get. I never said what the "commission" is, and acknowledged I cannot know when the payment is sent, or the exact amount. Try to use the correct word when arguing with people.
...but since you've basically agreed that T-Mobile is financing everything, I rest my case.

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...but since you've basically agreed that T-Mobile is financing everything, I rest my case.
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Perfectly stated.....
This thread is going to turn into nothing but flaming... @Op, you knew that starting the thread.... Why? Why do it? Just to brag and wait for how many different ways people can call you out on "ripping off a nexus one?".....
I'm not hear to discuss the issue of getting an n1 for cheap, just to call you out on posting a thread KNOWING you'll get nothing but negative responses..... A lot of that going on on XDA lately and it's kinda sad.....

ATnTdude said:
The "subsidy" is obvious, $250 to $350, because the subsidy is what YOU get. I never said what the "commission" is, and acknowledged I cannot know when the payment is sent, or the exact amount. Try to use the correct word when arguing with people.
...but since you've basically agreed that T-Mobile is financing everything, I rest my case.
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The last part of that statement WAS to tell you when google got their payment.
Tmobile does NOT give google the payment if you cancel your contract. Thats when google steps in and gets their "commission" from you instead of tmo
When you buy the phone from google, you pay google 179. When you have been with tmobile for 120 days, tmobile pays google the rest of the money at their agreed upon rate (between 150-350, we dont know) if you cancel, google takes 150 to take their material losses.
Tmobile isnt footing anything, google is. and google makes sure they dont take a loss from this kind of situation. Note the phone's hardware costs $175, so the immediate material loss is already paid for when you buy the phone.

Congrats, you ripped someone off.
Your mistake was thinking anyone here would care. If you wanted "ZOMG DEWD GRATS BRAH!!!!!11one!!1" you're in the wrong forum.

Yadda yadda, someone is a db.. Let's just wave our hands until the Mods see and close this thread..

Due to the nature of the thread, I will close it down.

anyone preorder using jump?

im trying to take advantage of the samsung offer but i went to store to preorder and was told i could only trade in one phone, any try the same with two phones?
looks like jump users cant take advantage of samsung offer.

RotaryXperiment7 said:
im trying to take advantage of the samsung offer but i went to store to preorder and was told i could only trade in one phone, any try the same with two phones?
looks like jump users cant take advantage of samsung offer.
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Jump users can't participate since they cannot trade-in a phone in addition to the one that they're returning (the EIP one).

Kawaisa said:
Jump users can't participate since they cannot trade-in a phone in addition to the one that they're returning (the EIP one).
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dang i was afraid of that, i thought someone said u could?

RotaryXperiment7 said:
dang i was afraid of that, i thought someone said u could?
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Some people claim that they did (big mouths with no proof), but you can't. If you got to my-tmobile and click on trade-in you have to give the order number and phone number and you will get a message that you have already reached the maximum amount of trade-ins for that order (namely your jump device)

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Some people claim that they did (big mouths with no proof), but you can't. If you got to my-tmobile and click on trade-in you have to give the order number and phone number and you will get a message that you have already reached the maximum amount of trade-ins for that order (namely your jump device)
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I ordered using the normal upgrade, then traded in the phone online. I then called and asked them to cancel the order then reorder with JUMP. It still kept the old trade in as well.

so the trade-in is unrelated to your jump upgrade order, anyone could do that

Kawaisa said:
so the trade-in is unrelated to your jump upgrade order, anyone could do that
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So do it? Don't say it can't be done.

aooga said:
So do it? Don't say it can't be done.
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good luck with that

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good luck with that
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With what?

I asked a rep on phone and she said only one trade in per line.

well that sucks, i thought the jump program was part of trading in your device so i guess not 200 promotion for us.

of course you can't use Jump and get the 200 rebate; with Jump, you aren't "buying" anything, you're just "renting" the phone for a period of time..

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of course you can't use Jump and get the 200 rebate; with Jump, you aren't "buying" anything, you're just "renting" the phone for a period of time..
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Not true. If anything you're paying for the privilege to sell it back to T-Mo for a guaranteed 50% of it's value. Once you pay it off its your phone.

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well that sucks, i thought the jump program was part of trading in your device so i guess not 200 promotion for us.
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I effectively got $300 credit from my gs4 that still had a year of $25 payments on it... I'm plenty happy with that credit that really makes the Samsung promo null and void even if I COULD use it.
I was already paying $12 bucks a month on insurance before the JUMP! Program and un-plan came along. I lowered my bill over $20(was ~$188) even after I got unlimited everything family plan($80), increased my data cap 2 gigs on my line for a total of 3($10), got jump for $10 per line, not $12 like insurance was($20), and financed 2 phones($20 & $25 for a total of $163 after various taxes) and i get to JUMP! twice a year per line after the first 6 months passed, that's 4 phones a year for only taxes, which is lower then the "plan discounts" you used to get every 2 years!
....I'm plenty happy with JUMP! and no sammy promo on a full priced phone, tmobile is the one losing money, that's for sure.

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Not true. If anything you're paying for the privilege to sell it back to T-Mo for a guaranteed 50% of it's value. Once you pay it off its your phone.
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I'm on the original Jump, so it works differently for me..
and, yes, if you keep the phone for 2 years, and pay it off, its yours, but I doubt many folks who follow XDA keep ANY phone for 2 years..

Ive only payed a year on mine and owe 280 and according o the check out, im only getting the 280 to pay it off.

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Ive only payed a year on mine and owe 280 and according o the check out, im only getting the 280 to pay it off.
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So they are effectively giving you 280 for your phone, $80 more than the Samsung credit...
I'm on the old jump plan also... I didn't even realize it changed till this upgrade and was reading the new terms... still an ALRIGHT plan, but the original is a steal... you really are only stuck for the first 6 months, or = to 1/4th the value the original phone, then you can jump twice a year after that n that literally means i can jump now to the note 4 and if I want, jump again in 2 months to the note edge.
If I DO want to keep any phone for 2 years also, I'm paying for the base price of the phone, interest free... n i was already paying more for insurance anyways, so in my case the monthly fee for the jump plan isn't even a knock against me(that 240 bucks for 2 years of jump+insurance is less than just old insurion @$288 for 2 years) n I'm actually likely to use the plan, where I maybe used insurance once in 7 years.

yeah, alot of folks forget that jump includes Insurance AND Lookout Premium for free; its not just a "tax" to be able to change phones frequently

I also had jump, but I didn't use it, since they want the phone back, i pre-order the note4 and do a trade in
i had a verizon i4 which tmobile gave me 203buck for it and i5 which is icloud lock and i got 232buck all in credit. i think i got a good deal with 2 useless phone. i talked to a rep u can trade in as many smart phone as u want as long as it not broken doesn't matter if it icloud lock. if that help somebody

is it possible if i trade my galaxy s3 into where i work (ATT) and pre order the note 4 from t mobile and still get $200?

AT&T Nexus cost more??

**Warning** Kind of a long read but I'm curious to other peoples thoughts.
Wanted to share my experience today. I went into a Corporate AT&T store planning on upgrading to a 32GB MB Nexus 6 on the Next program. I'm good with it being carrier locked and I'll just remove the AT&T bloatware. I was excited that they had them in stock, however I noticed that the retail price was for $682.99 instead of $649 like Google has it for. I asked the rep and he was surprised and looked it up. I told him that other carriers were selling it for $649 also, and he verified it but couldn't explain it and mentioned that they can't match it either. I asked why do I want to pay like $30 more for it to be carrier locked and have bloatware installed (okay with it but not gonna pay for it).
At home, I called 611 to see if they would match it and see if they knew why. The first rep basically said that was the way it was and didn't really seem interested. The second time I called (I know now maybe I'm crazy but didn't think its right), I asked for their loyalty department cause I know they have more power. The guy there said he was being told that its not ATT but the Manufacture that is dictating the price. I told him that Motorola has it for $649 on their website and it doesn't make sense that they are letting everyone else sell it for one price and making AT&T sell it higher. Told them that I may change carriers if AT&T thinks that its good business practice to charge more then everyone else.
I want to point out that:
1. I was never rude or demanded anything. Just told them that I hope it gets pushed up and corrected.
2. Realize that this is a first world problem and I could just go purchase it from Google or somewhere else but I feel its the principle. Its not right to charge like $30 more and add to the fact that I would have paid higher taxes.
3. They still ended up not matching the price but did offer me a $50 discount off the contract price but told them I didn't want a contract.

The extra cost is for the high quality paint used for the death star logo on the back. (The one that comes off if you stare at it hard enough.)
Actually, I didn't mind the extra 30 for one simple reason: it didn't require waiting 6 to 20 weeks for moto to get stock and ship.
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Ha on the paint. I'm still torn. Almost talked myself into going back and just pay for it.

You know what? I just bought a Nexus 6 from AT&T web ordering and I knew it was $30 more than everyone else, but you know what?! AT&T has them in stock and nobody else does!! Get over it. If you don't like it wait until Google has them on their site and then wait some more until they really have it and can send it to you! I had no problem getting mine from AT&T and I really didn't care that it has their logo on it!

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Ha on the paint. I'm still torn. Almost talked myself into going back and just pay for it.
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Do you going to leave a service because they charge 30 bucks for a device no one got in stock? Sound like a great business strategy for me... They know they can provide it today while others can in weeks. I will advice you go back

Appreciate the feed back. I realize that's it only like 30 bucks but there is also the added cost of paying taxes on 682 instead of 649. Not outrageous but still there. I doubt they are charging higher because they know they have them in stock. Especially when they are late to the game. They had to send their initial batch back. I wonder if this is fair to be who don't realize they are paying more. I noticed the price difference and accept the added cost, I'm okay with it but it's not fair to an unsuspecting customer.

Complain about it on at&t's Facebook page. The first person that contacts you probably won't be alot of help. They will eventually have someone else contact you. This person can help you. They gave me a $100 bill credit. I could have paid the balance of $582.99 plus tax but I chose to do the next 12 plan. So I paid $682.99 in order to do next and the $100 came off my monthly bill.

Well to update. I ended up going back and getting it. Really wanted to check it out and decided it was worth to walk out with it now. I hope its corrected still though. Now to run it through its paces before the 14 days are up. Like it so far. It is my first nexus device.

Mine was 249.99 with the 2 year contract.

$249.99 + $25 per month extra for 24 months = $849.99 + tax and upgrade / activation fees.

Best buy has the at&t n6 for 649 but the sprint n6 is 699 dosent make sense
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That's interesting, on Sprints website its 648.

Selling While Financed?

Has anyone ever sold their device while it was still financed?

No but I know att has a spot when you view your stuff online to view what you owe to own it
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If you financed through Google, you can sell it as the IMEI doesn't show up as financed and the phone is unlocked. Carrier phone IMEI should show up as financed like my T-Mobile phones. I sold my 3A without any issues.
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Has anyone ever sold their device while it was still financed?
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Is that even allowed without informing the poor bastard that bought it that he's locked out? That is a weird question. Why do you ask it?

No. You still owe money on it. Pay it off before you sell it to someone else. This applies to anything that you finance in life.

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Has anyone ever sold their device while it was still financed?
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I'm almost certain that is fraud. You don't own it to sell it!

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No. You still owe money on it. Pay it off before you sell it to someone else. This applies to anything that you finance in life.
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Isn't that illegal? You don't own it to sell it!
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People sell their houses and cars all the time that they don't completely own, while still being financed. Why should phones be different. As long as you pay off the phone loan you agreed to, I don't see it as a big deal. Just a simple perspective from from my point of view

Badger50 said:
People sell they're houses and cars all the time that they don't completely own, while still being financed. Why should phones be different. As long as you pay off the phone loan you agreed to, I don't see it as a big deal. Just a simple perspective from from my point of view
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That's not entirely true. When you sell your home it must be paid off before the sale can go through. Whether it's the mortgage company or the title company that home needs to be free and clear of all liens.
And you can't sell a car that you don't own. You can transfer the payments but that's all up front and guaranteed by the bank.

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That's not entirely true. When you sell your home it must be paid off before the sale can go through. Whether it's the mortgage company or the title company that home needs to be free and clear of all liens.
And you can't sell a car that you don't own. You can transfer the payments but that's all up front and guaranteed by the bank.
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Exactly, just what I was going to say in reply.
It's fraud if you sell something you don't own.
If you pay all the agreed payments then clearly you own it, but until then you don't!

m+a+r+k said:
Exactly, just what I was going to say in reply.
It's fraud if you sell something you don't own.
If you pay all the agreed payments then clearly you own it, but until then you don't!
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not true you can sell it just like you can with a car and have someone take over payments. as long as you pay your monthly dues you'll be good.

stevew84 said:
Has anyone ever sold their device while it was still financed?
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I sold my Pixel 2 XL after having it for a year while financing through Verizon. The guy That bought it had Verizon, and everything worked fine. I just payed it off a couple months ago.

jmartin72 said:
I sold my Pixel 2 XL after having it for a year while financing through Verizon. The guy That bought it had Verizon, and everything worked fine. I just payed it off a couple months ago.
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That is a trusting individual you sold it to. Doesn't Verizon require that you keep the device on your account for 24 months or at least have an account so you get the discount on a monthly basis?
But say something happened to you either physically or financially and you couldn't pay? Then what? If the person knew there was this chance then I guess it's ok as long as there is some kind of documentation for protection. Still sounds sketchy to me though.
If I sold a car and still had to pay my bank for another year or so what's to say that car couldn't be repossessed (IMEI blacklisted) at any given time? Why wouldn't you take the money from the sale and just pay it off on the spot like you do with a home mortgage? I sell a house and I owe $100k for instance. The mortgage company deducts the amount you owe, pays off the loan, and gives you the balance. The buyer now is responsible for either paying it all at once or financing on his / her own.
Unless this is a close relative (and even then..) I would never do anything like that on the sending or receiving end. It doesn't make sense.

bobby janow said:
That is a trusting individual you sold it to. Doesn't Verizon require that you keep the device on your account for 24 months or at least have an account so you get the discount on a monthly basis?
But say something happened to you either physically or financially and you couldn't pay? Then what? If the person knew there was this chance then I guess it's ok as long as there is some kind of documentation for protection. Still sounds sketchy to me though.
If I sold a car and still had to pay my bank for another year or so what's to say that car couldn't be repossessed (IMEI blacklisted) at any given time? Why wouldn't you take the money from the sale and just pay it off on the spot like you do with a home mortgage? I sell a house and I owe $100k for instance. The mortgage company deducts the amount you owe, pays off the loan, and gives you the balance. The buyer now is responsible for either paying it all at once or financing on his / her own.
Unless this is a close relative (and even then..) I would never do anything like that on the sending or receiving end. It doesn't make sense.
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Verizon only requires you to keep an active line/account. One of the things I liked about Verizon is that I could put my SIM in any phone, and as long as it had the correct radios, it would work. You can change phones every day if you want, and don't have to contact Verizon to activate. Could I have payed off the phone before I sold it...Yes, but it's not like they charge you interest, and at the time, I had no intention of switching carriers, so it just made sense to leave things as is. I did know the person I sold it to, and I would have never left him holding the bag so to speak. I'm not that kind of person. My only purpose for posting, was to answer the question in the OP that with Verizon anyway it's possible.

jmartin72 said:
Verizon only requires you to keep an active line/account. One of the things I liked about Verizon is that I could put my SIM in any phone, and as long as it had the correct radios, it would work. You can change phones every day if you want, and don't have to contact Verizon to activate. Could I have payed off the phone before I sold it...Yes, but it's not like they charge you interest, and at the time, I had no intention of switching carriers, so it just made sense to leave things as is. I did know the person I sold it to, and I would have never left him holding the bag so to speak. I'm not that kind of person. My only purpose for posting, was to answer the question in the OP that with Verizon anyway it's possible.
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I wasn't sure about the Verizon line/account restrictions. Of course you are not one to stiff a friend or stranger for that matter. But that's not the point really, or at least I don't think the OP was referring to a private sale like what you did. Private sales are just that, private. But selling a financed phone, car, home or bicycle where the purchaser can have it repossessed unbeknownst to him or her then that is illegal. I'm not an attorney but that would be a case to bring if you can find the person who stiffed you. Thus Swappa will not allow a financed device on their selling site and eBay I'm not sure of. I doubt they check but Paypal might have an issue if reported. Bottom line, don't sell a financed device without full disclosure and a signature to prove it.