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hi guys is there any software we can have video ringtones for windows mobile 5.0
When a call comes in, instead of seeing the callers pic, you'd perfer to see a vid? Never heard of such a software. More than likely very memory intensive.
That feature is not available on the 8125.
You might want to register on Cingular's customer forums to interact with other 8125 users who can help you learn about your phone, instead of a developers' site for advanced users.
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board?board.id=cingular&mode=na&combBill=n
That feature is not available on the 8125.
You might want to register on Cingular's customer forums to interact with other 8125 users who can help you learn about your phone, instead of a developers' site for advanced users.
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board?board.id=cingular&mode=na&combBill=n
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Zing.
couldnt have put it better my self. someone on the cingular forum will help. kind of bugs when people come on in not reading or searching and just asking for stuff. i may not contribute to much but i dont bug either
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That feature is not available on the 8125.
You might want to register on Cingular's customer forums to interact with other 8125 users who can help you learn about your phone, instead of a developers' site for advanced users.
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board?board.id=cingular&mode=na&combBill=n
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hiya. i think he can just post in the wizard general forum rather than having to register at the cingular one. i'm a cingular user but rarely frequent those boards.
to answer the OP's question, everyone else already has
i think even if it did become available, i wouldn't think it appropriate for everyday use, given the small memory and the large footprint it would require every time the phone rang...
funny because i was thinking in depth on this subject only a couple days ago.
i tried it out with an animated gif on my old smt 5600 a while ago since it had the option of full screen caller id pictures. it wasn't very practical cause even that took a lot of resources.
Hi all,
I have been reading alot about the comments every one seems to making regarding the MDA Vario (unlocking or rom upgrading)
I have the latest unlocking including (CID) and i also have the latest upgrades too.
These are the full updated versions which will also change the country settings from other countrys to the full english version.
If required you can buy the cd's off me for a small price via paypal which will include full instructions with the unlocking software and upgrades, which all work 100% as i have done 14 so far with no problems.
This software will NOT change youe imei as it is against the law to do so.
you can pay me via paypal and leave your address in the comments section of your payment > £5.00 to [email protected] <
I hope this will help out some of you with problems.
Regards to all,
Jerry
What da f**k is this? Are you trying make money with the hard work of the genious of this forum?
GO AWAY. tHIS SITE IS NOT FOR YOU!!!
just too lame for words
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What da f**k is this? Are you trying make money with the hard work of the genious of this forum?
GO AWAY. tHIS SITE IS NOT FOR YOU!!!
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I think you have a problem, i will post what i want i have forgoten more then you will ever know about mobile communications i have spent the last 27yrs in the communication world, i have worked for motorola, phillips , nokia, in hitech deparments.
You are more then welcome to visit my company here in the united kingdom so you can take it any way you want to, but think what you say before you engadge your mouth with your brain.
We also devolope software and hardware for the mobile world, and some ones software dont work we then fixit or recomend it not to be used at no cost you see we also do things for free.
So what have you to offer then! apart from rude comments which just shows to me your stupidity.
We welcome all genuine comments and we do reply to all emails here at
JKS Communications
So who are you! what do you know about cellular equipment proberly nothing i guess so why dont you keep reading your comics and leave those alone who know what they are doing.
For what i am offering as a sevice has abserlutly nothing to do with you so keep it out.
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And your comments to lame for words is this a adult site or is it run by kids!
If your comment wasent aimed at me then sorry for the reply, but if it is then it is no concern of yours if you want the software with a backup service then please ask.
There are people on this forum who are have bad problems with this type of equipment and paying a small charge for what is offered is really to cheap but we at JKS Communications are not to greedy as we have tested and tested again to make sure that every thing we sell is 100% because i can assure that alot of the upgrades and unlocking software isnt safe to use.
If you know anthing about mobile communications you would know this, i have 5 tech guys who work for me full time as we cover most makes on the market and currently have around 400+gig of firmware/software going back to the early tac units all the way to the present day also we have the latest equipment around which run into thousends of pounds, 27yrs i have been in the mobile communications world so i know what i am talking about.
Like i said at the start if your comment wasent directed to me then i apologise for the comments i have made.
And if it was then you are not interested in what i can offer then keep your comments to yourself please.
Regards,
Jerry (JKS Communications)
I just think it's funny that you came to a self help site, phishing for business. lol What's even funnier is, I bet everything on the CD is something that's found right in the forums. Even if it may not be the same things, it's probably something similar.
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I just think it's funny that you came to a self help site, phishing for business. lol What's even funnier is, I bet everything on the CD is something that's found right in the forums. Even if it may not be the same things, it's probably something similar.
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Hi,
Maybe so that most thing can be found on the internet but do they do what is claimed most dont.
And as fishing for business as you put it how can offering a service to help out those to who have tried out various software and are still having problems with phone's pda's ect which have a street price of around £375.
It seems to me that some find my offer affends if that is the case i will withdraw what i am offering and put the offer on my own website we just thought it would help out as most of the links are dead one's, and some of the programes offered for free are hacked and they do damage to your phone when used we know this as we have a lot of software that we have download for free and it is a waste of time.
As for the software being free on the net which is on the cd well the unlocking programe is and works 100% every time, but the main files for upgrading cost us money one of the files is a full version in english the latest microsoft windows v5 please tell me where i can download that for free not the simple rom update but the full Os system!.
Regards,
Jerry
Rippers !
A tipical ripper, this "company" JKS or whatever fancy name they choose.
Let's not get bothered by them
Maybe they even find some dumbo using their ripping service
Tough luck for the dumbos
Cheers
hrb
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A tipical ripper, this "company" JKS or whatever fancy name they choose.
Let's not get bothered by them
Maybe they even find some dumbo using their ripping service
Tough luck for the dumbos
Cheers
hrb
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Well this is the funiest yet, how can you call me a ripper? and it isnt a fancy name eather it was formed in 1987 proberly older then you currently are, you dont live in this country according to your details and i can't see how you can pass comment when you have no idear to what you are talkin about you are a class 1 PRATT just go back to school.
Any way you also talk about " Let's not get bothered by them" well it seems to me that you are bothered if you dont want to have any of our services and what we can stand by, them MIND UR F * * K I N G BUSINESS
Have a nice day!
It's very sad to see that some nitwit takes free software from this site and tries to sell it. We see too many fricking a-holes on ebay doing the same thing.
someone will buy the cd that he claims can do most things that we cant and then post here......and the funny thing is the person will claim that he found how to this and that.
Same here to you!
GO AWAY. tHIS SITE IS NOT FOR YOU!!!
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Well this is the funiest yet, how can you call me a ripper? and it isnt a fancy name eather it was formed in 1987 proberly older then you currently are, you dont live in this country according to your details and i can't see how you can pass comment when you have no idear to what you are talkin about you are a class 1 PRATT just go back to school.
Any way you also talk about " Let's not get bothered by them" well it seems to me that you are bothered if you dont want to have any of our services and what we can stand by, them MIND UR F * * K I N G BUSINESS
Have a nice day!
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I don't think I could buy software from a person that uses the words "proberly" and "idear". . . Who's he think he is, telling others to "go back to school"? lol
igadgetman said:
It's very sad to see that some nitwit takes free software from this site and tries to sell it. We see too many fricking a-holes on ebay doing the same thing.
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Take a run and jump son, the software is not free if it was then i would offer it for free there is no problem there, So please tell me then know it all where i can get a 100% geuine version of windows ver 5 with the latest update for free!!! with a installation serial number.
I look forward to hearing from you!!!
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Take a run and jump son, the software is not free if it was then i would offer it for free there is no problem there, So please tell me then know it all where i can get a 100% geuine version of windows ver 5 with the latest update for free!!! with a installation serial number.
I look forward to hearing from you!!!
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The only thing with that is, anybody in this section of the forum already has WM5 preinstalled on their device. And we can just strip out whatever we don't want installed. I'm failing to see the benefit of anybody in the "Wizard" area of the forums buying WM5 from you. By the way, I'd also like to point out that normally, in any business, there's always some kind of customer service and professionalism. You may want to do some research into that. I know that, from most of my experiences, if you have a problem, the company gives you sympathy. If you disagree with a policy, most companies would at the very least apologize about the way things are. You, my friend, act as a douche for your company. Only, in this instance, you're flushing out business. ~sniff~ Ah, the smell of vinegar in the night air. . .
JKS_COMMS said:
Take a run and jump son, the software is not free if it was then i would offer it for free there is no problem there, So please tell me then know it all where i can get a 100% geuine version of windows ver 5 with the latest update for free!!! with a installation serial number.
I look forward to hearing from you!!!
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it spells "genuine", not "geuine"
So: back to school, ripper !
So JKS_COMMS, where exactly are you based ?
USA ? (Your Flag)
Albania ? (Your Provider)
UK - (Your e-mail Address is btinternet.com)
How long has your "company" been in operation ?
Are you UK VAT Registered ?
Is any of the software on the CD copyrighted / GNU licence etc ?
Also your a very new user here on xda-developers (under JKS_COMMS you only reg'd on 21-10-2006), only 6 posts (all of these in this thread) I doubt anyone is going to take you seriously.
Got to say this all sounds a bit fishy to me, do you really think ANYONE here with half a brain will send you a fiver - sounds like a bit of a scam to me so maybe this thread needs reporting to a MOD.
Filnet
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What a pratt,
The software i hve didnt come from this site nor ebay as i dont have an account.
You are such a plank i can see now this forum has got A holes in it and plenty of them who can always pass comment well you can shove it, i got the software it's 100% perfect and works great but thanks to you bunch of upstarts who like to see other members suffer as the software you find on the net isnt that good thats why it is free.
All mine is 100% genuine
have a good one looser
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So JKS_COMMS, where exactly are you based ?
USA ? (Your Flag)
Albania ? (Your Provider)
UK - (Your e-mail Address is btinternet.com)
How long has your "company" been in operation ?
Are you UK VAT Registered ?
Is any of the software on the CD copyrighted / GNU licence etc ?
Also your a very new user here on xda-developers (under JKS_COMMS you only reg'd on 21-10-2006), only 6 posts (all of these in this thread) I doubt anyone is going to take you seriously.
Got to say this all sounds a bit fishy to me, do you really think ANYONE here with half a brain will send you a fiver - sounds like a bit of a scam to me so maybe this thread needs reporting to a MOD.
Filnet
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Hi,
there is nothing fishy here all my software is 100% i had to pay for it which was more then a fiver, so i thought i would help some one out on here with support to help them get there mda sorted and running 100% so i didnt think it was to much to ask, but as you can see it is wrong of me to offer this software at this price so i wont it do not bother me.
Have a good one.
for someone with the vocabulary of a 9 year old, he sure does seem confident in his ability to produce working software. As for wm5 being pad for, it does NOT require a cdkey. OEM's that resell it sometimes (I have heard of one) that has added a cdkey to it to it and it was compared to a hardware id. As for a place you can find a full wm5..... everywhere?
I just got the AT&T Tilt last Friday and have found myself pondering if it was worth the $300.00? I am thinking about taking it back because it seems to buggy. The phone its self is good looking but WM6 is just ugly compared to the iPhone interface. Anyways what do you think?
If aesthetics are you main concern, sure go with an iPhone. I like functionality over appearance, so I love my tilt!
yes it worth it, there is soooooo many apps that u can add, you can even upgrade from that cingular rom, i havent seen anyone with my tilt yet
Now come on... this is getting beyond a joke....You have an At&T Tilt, not a 'HTC TyTnII'
Please disclose your business affiliations as I am POSITIVE you are associated with apple as this is getting really stupid!
Who buys a very expensive phone without research then suddenly comes on this forum and denouces it within a few weeks without really trying it??
I am amazed!!!
OH, BTW I am not associated with HTC in any way and I find it a 100% piece of kit for what I wanted.
Amazing how many times you see "is it worth it to me" on forums. Who else but you could possibly answer if it's worth it to you???
hahahaha good point, Farsquidge......iphone=downgrade
First off I do not work for AT&T!!! I am a high school student that spent alot of time doing research on this phone! I love my "'HTC TyTnII" or whatever you want to call it! I only called it the Tilt for the simple fact that its branded name is the AT&T Tilt. This has to be the most unfriendly forum I have ever been on!
Dude you need to chill out. Swearing will get you banned. Everyone has their opinions about the iPhone and the Tilt. If you don't like someone else's opinions, just ignore them.
Personally I love the Tilt. The iPhone just doesn't do enough for me. Yes, it has a very nice interface but in the end, function wins over form.
If you want a pretty phone, go with the iPhone. If you want one that you can easily hack and tweak and load tons of 3rd party apps on, get the Tilt, but it is your choice to make, not ours to make for you.
In the end, you have to live with your choice.
P.S. I absolutely love my Tilt. It runs rings around the iPhone and I don't have to worry about Steve Jobs making my life difficult by not letting me do what I want with it.
Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.
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Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.
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Please don't give up.. I know some of us (me for one!) can be a little short tempered with what is around on this forum at the moment (flaming the device!) but all of us on here would like to try to help you futher your unit!
I am sorry if I seemed to shoot you down at the start...
Let's move on from that...
You say you have a 'Tilt', first thing we can recommend is re-flashing your ROM to a HTC TyTnII as the AT&T is a very basic firmware but when you do this you will lose your AT&T settings ( that is your 3G HSDPA connection). Then you will need the latest Network settings cab.. Then lets move on from that!!! OK?
There are so many different roms witch is the one I need to use?
True, there are many. I like the att rom. it's not that bad. i just removed all of the bloatware on it by doing a soft reset after the hard reset and that freeed like 20 mb or so. btw, if you want to run different roms on the tilt, you must cid unlcok your tilt.
We need a few bits of info to start you off.
First, tell us the device (I know it may seem strange but we need to know who you bought it from ie At&T or whatever as this forum is worldwide!!)
Then when you first turn on the phone (turn it off by holding the power button!) try to get the OS and Radio versions it has. You may need to do this a couple of times as it disappears quickly.
If I am not online you will find loads of guys willing to help....
You have come into a great community that will work with you so long as we get the correct info...
I bought it from an AT&T store. The numbers are R1.27.12.11 G22.445.88.07h D1.57.00.00.
I need the same help here, thanks in advance
I will follow this thread since I have the same phone, same radio and OS, I'm very interested in getting a better ROM to see what are the PROS.
OK guys, have a good read at the WiKi...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Especially at the 'How to flash a new ROM' section. It will give you a good aspect of what you will be doing..
I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?
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I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?
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If you re-flash your 'Tilt' (as it is an AT&T carrier device) you will lose your AT&T connection settings.
You will end up with a 'Carrier free' device with (or) without sim unlock depending on the way you do it. You will then have to re-install these with a 'Network profile app' from this forum. You will find plenty of apps (in the form of .cab files) on here to keep you happy for ages!
Be patient because there are tons of guys on this forum who have reflashed their devices that will add their input to help you. No one is online all the time but will get to you when they can.
Thanks. The more I look on different forums, the more confused I get. I'm not to phone/computer savy so I have to do some research on the simple words and terms used up here. Thanks alot.
It takes a long time to get up to speed, I'm not close yet. Personally, I don't have a problem with the ATT rom, I guess b/c I haven't seen a flashed one to compare it to. I've added a bunch of fun/useful programs from this site, FFF and IMSMS are great ones and all the home customizations are very cool. The other day, I was beaming IMSMS to a friend. A stranger passing says "oh are we showing off our phones?" and yanks out his iphone hoping we'd be impressed. I said, "nope just beaming a file, do you want it too? Oops, guess you can't do that" You could see him deflate immediately. The iphone is neat to look at, but is so lacking in features and customization it's sad.
Hi all
Anyone out there come across any FAXing utility that actually works on the Kaiser? I have tried both Mfax and TrueFax and neither work. Now, I mean true faxing utility using the phones radio not Faxing via internet.
Thanks, Kyri.
I always thought that was carrier dependant. If I remember correctly when I used to in the past long ago with Cingular I was only able to when I had Circuit Switched Data (CSD) enabled on my account that alloed my phone to be used as a dialup modem. But I haven't seen Cingular/ATT offer that service for some time now. Not sure about other carriers.
Please refer to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380509
Hi guys
Thanks for the feedback, I checked out the threads, but other than confirming that others have had the same problems, not much help.
Even after enabling CSD, there is a need for FAXing software that works on the Kaiser.
I questioned Trufax support and here is their answer…
Unfortunately we cannot support the WM 5.0 / 6.0 Pocket PC Phones at the moment. The problem is that we need technical support from the respective device manufacturers and this support is not given at the moment. We were working together with High Tech Computer for their devices (MDA, XDA, i-mate, etc.) but this was only for WM 2003 OS and they stopped supporting us with WM 5.0 cause faxing was not an issue of importance for HTC and the net providers anymore.
(another round of applause for HTC I guess. Shame on you for laughing at me, again. I will take my money elsewhere next time. I have noticed over the past year that the professional end Nokia phones are looking good and getting better all the time.)
Regarding Mfax, well that software just locks the phone a reset is required, hmmm!
So please the question remains, Does anyone out their know of any FAX software that actually works on the phone (CSD aside that is)?
Thanks, Kyri.
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Hi guys
Thanks for the feedback, I checked out the threads, but other than confirming that others have had the same problems, not much help.
Even after enabling CSD, there is a need for FAXing software that works on the Kaiser.
I questioned Trufax support and here is their answer…
Unfortunately we cannot support the WM 5.0 / 6.0 Pocket PC Phones at the moment. The problem is that we need technical support from the respective device manufacturers and this support is not given at the moment. We were working together with High Tech Computer for their devices (MDA, XDA, i-mate, etc.) but this was only for WM 2003 OS and they stopped supporting us with WM 5.0 cause faxing was not an issue of importance for HTC and the net providers anymore.
(another round of applause for HTC I guess. Shame on you for laughing at me, again. I will take my money elsewhere next time. I have noticed over the past year that the professional end Nokia phones are looking good and getting better all the time.)
Regarding Mfax, well that software just locks the phone a reset is required, hmmm!
So please the question remains, Does anyone out their know of any FAX software that actually works on the phone (CSD aside that is)?
Thanks, Kyri.
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I don't want do be annoying but your question belongs to the software section and should therefore be asked in the thread I mentioned above. Why opening a redundant thread in the wrong section?
Hey (not so) deep thought. Wrong section may be, redundant only with hind site. Rude yes, Annoying certainly! unnecessary definitely.
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Hey (not so) deep thought. Wrong section may be, redundant only with hind site. Rude yes, Annoying certainly! unnecessary definitely.
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I just stated my opinion. You are attacking me personally, so everyone can decide for himself who is rude. But continue your redundant thread in the wrong section. I don't have to read it anyway and maybe you can flame with the mods. I'm not available for that ****.
eFax on wireless
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Hi all
Anyone out there come across any FAXing utility that actually works on the Kaiser? I have tried both Mfax and TrueFax and neither work. Now, I mean true faxing utility using the phones radio not Faxing via internet.
Thanks, Kyri.
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How about eFax?
Hi Cushcalc
Thanks for the efax link. It’s not quite what I had in mind. See I travel lots, go for months without needing a fax and then along comes a need to use fax for a couple of weeks until something else is arranged.
So I don’t want to start an online service and have the overhead/time/think about keeping up the subscriptions for months until I next need it.
Ideally I want to send/receive faxes via radio direct without all this overhead, you know satisfy the need for those couple of weeks and then forget about it till next time.
Mfax and TrueFAX have the right idea. It seems at least for one company however, that the non disclosure policy of HTC has basically prevented them from upgrading their products to run using Windows Mobile version 5 and 6. Sad and petty on HTC’s side I think. From my perspective, well no one likes a bully do they.
Regards
fax
do any of these programs help?
http://www.mobilefan.net/Pocket-PC.nsf/Download-Free-Software/Printing-Fax
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So I don’t want to start an online service and have the overhead/time/think about keeping up the subscriptions for months until I next need it.
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Well, I made an eFax account something like 3 years ago for fun, never used it, and it still exists and I receive a reminder email about it every few months. I wouldn't consider that as having to spend time to keep it up...
I remember sending a fax with an HTC device, but it was indeed still on PPC2003 with my BA a few years ago.
And I'm pretty sure the software vendor you mention is a bit quick at blaming HTC, they could as well get the WM5/6 API info from Microsoft.
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I don't want do be annoying but your question belongs to the software section and should therefore be asked in the thread I mentioned above. Why opening a redundant thread in the wrong section?
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Perhaps you should let the mods decide what belongs where.
I too have had problems finding a suitable solution for faxing on my Tilt... AND editing the PDF format I get the faxes in...
You can at least receive faxes on your phone by email with Ringcentral.... I havent found a good email to fax program that might be the best you can do
Reminds me of something... But I cant put my finger on it
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Its skinned to remove all logos, The only thing I could not remove was the text. I made it for myself, keep that in mind. I am just sharing.
*edit* if the original does not work, I doubt this one will but use the same install information 555-555-5555 and you must have the widget on your home screen. Launch it from the widget preferably.
is there anything different about these apks? Are they wifi compatible?
I tried wifi compatibility and it is still in the works but as of now this is only for looks but I am working on wifi as I post this.
555-555-5555?? call that number while the widget is up?
On some of the sprint apps it makes you comfirm that you are a sprint customer, so instead of sending sprint our real phone numbers (caller id=your name) we send them fake ones, like 555-555-5555
this seems like not a smart thing for you to do.
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Reminds me of something... But I cant put my finger on it
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Its skinned to remove all logos, The only thing I could not remove was the text. I made it for myself, keep that in mind. I am just sharing.
*edit* if the original does not work, I doubt this one will but use the same install information 555-555-5555 and you must have the widget on your home screen. Launch it from the widget preferably.
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so basically you just violated alot of copyright laws....
Unfortunately, some may think, we cannot allow links to modded paying software. The software in question is provided under licence to Sprint users only. Now, we try not to sensor knowledge here, so we not going to delete all references to the fact that this software can be ported to non Sprint devices and used free of charge in breach of terms and conditions, BUT we cannot permit links to the software that would actively encourage members to break the law.
Mike
Links will be removed
It's not the fact that it is Sprint software ported over to the G1. It is the fact that he removed all of Sprint's branding. That's like taking the the Google Maps app (or any Google app) and removing Google's name from it. It's simply just a breach of copyright.
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It's not the fact that it is Sprint software ported over to the G1. It is the fact that he removed all of Sprint's branding. That's like taking the the Google Maps app (or any Google app) and removing Google's name from it. It's simply just a breach of copyright.
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Well, that too but the whole subject of the Sprint / Telnav software has been raised and discussed with Mods and Admin so there are issues regarding the use of such software on non Sprint phones.
Mike
Wow. Mike you have got to be one of the fairest, most logical forum mods I have ever had the pleasure to read. I am very impressed with the way in which this was handled.
mike i thought your site got closed because u had all the htc breakdown videos and what of that? but i do understand the point so i say lets make a new site that will let you post or upload. that way we can get the goods and xda dont get the blame if i remeber november 27 windows came down on xda for the same ish so please pleas dont let it happen to android just look for a new method for the shares. but i do like the work and want the app i was to late late for the link !!!!! Thanx mike !!!!!
*edit*( november 2007 )
llxll0m3g4llxll said:
mike i thought your site got closed because u had all the htc breakdown videos and what of that? but i do understand the point so i say lets make a new site that will let you post or upload. that way we can get the goods and xda dont get the blame if i remeber november 27 windows came down on xda for the same ish so please pleas dont let it happen to android just look for a new method for the shares. but i do like the work and want the app i was to late late for the link !!!!! Thanx mike !!!!!
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I was shut down for a while and had to remove some things, but in the end reached a sort of unofficial compromise on intellectual property rights.
This is a delicate issue, in my case I don't offer folks something they would normally have to pay for through their network or otherwise. (I offer stuff they should not have, even if they have money to pay for it!!).
I guess our bottom line is that knowledge should be freely available, but handing folk the tools, to install stuff that is very close to being Warez, is off-limits. (Robbing banks with an uzi can be profitable = knowledge, but handing out uzis and suggesting you rob a bank, crosses the line)
.... and yes we know cooking ROMs and such is also a grey area, but even there we say that ROMs should not be cooked that include for free any software for which the user would normally have to pay.
If someone set up a site with Sprint software on it - that's entirely up to them. We would probably even accept a link to it if the poster said "hey here's a breakdown of a Sprint ROM" In fact that would probably be OK to post here - at least until someone asked for a "take-down"
The problem only comes when someone says you can load this stuff on non-Sprint phones and get stuff for free and just to help you do that here are the links. In other words that ceases to be a theoretical point of information and becomes an encouragement to do something naughty. If folks want t be naughty then they have to do so, by reading the knowledge and then looking for the tools from whatever source, here or elsewhere without our help.
These kinds of things have been debated many times here at XDA - there are no absolute rights and wrongs, only things we think are more or less safe for us to do - just like life generally I guess
Mike
mikechannon said:
These kinds of things have been debated many times here at XDA - there are no absolute rights and wrongs, only things we think are more or less safe for us to do - just like life generally I guess
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Well said Mike. When I read it, I had a /foreheadslap moment thinking, "well duh, this should be pretty obvious," but im constantly reminded that there are users on here who simply feel they have a right or deserve to have any given piece of software if it is leaked online.
The bottom line is, do not post software that has not been explicity licensed as open source unless you have obtained permission to redistribute. As a general rule of thumb, if the software cannot be legally obtained unless you pay someone (e.g. it comes preloaded on a phone) or can be obtained free but only if you agree to a license agreement (downloading certain software update packages) then you should not redistribute it on xda or elsewhere.