Hi,
Apologies if this is slight OT, as I suppose it relates more to Windows than to the phone itself - but someone else in here may have seen this problem before. On my old XDA I used to sync to 2 PCs (Home and Work) to Outlook. Whatever I amended - either PC or phone - got cascaded through activesync to the other 2 "outlooks".
I am not sure if the Vista SP1 update has screwed this, but now I only seem to be able to go one way - ie I set which way I want the update to go, and it goes that way regardless of which entry is the newer. What I would liek to happen is that no matter where I make for example a new to-do list entry, it gets sync'd back to the Home PC/Work PC/phone. At the moment if I change an entry on the phone it gets overwritten with the PC's older entry....
Any ideas?
many thanks
Rob
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I've just installed Microsoft Vista and find it a very nice operating system.
For my phone I had to install the Vista version of ActiveSync, I paired up my phone with that prorgam and it worked flawlessly.
But what FU#[email protected]% idiot has made an option to overwrite the phone data with that of outlook WITHOUT asking a deletion approval.
When installing software on my Vista machine askes me several time if I'm sure.... But that louwsy program just deletes everything without even asking.
Fortunately, I was just a merely 250 contacts that I've completely lost since my backup was lost due to the Vista installation.....
Normally the contacts would be in the deleted messages box, but since I've turned of that option I completely lost everything...
BASTARDS !!!!!!
(Sorry for that.)
I'm going outside now and break something....
Hope that'll release my frustration..
****ING BASTARDS AT MICROSOFT
IDIOTS
HOPE THEY ALL GO TO HELL FOR THIS
(Sorry again).
hahaha
It happened to me several times cuz I always reflash my PDA and format my laptop.. I decided to save them in Microsoft's servers and add them to Messenger live contacts
When you pair your devices the MOBILE DEVICE CENTER is asking you how you want your data synchronized: replacing on mobile device, replacing on pc or combining! I guess you haven't paid attention! Even after you paired your devices you can change this options in the settings.
yikes, im sorry about that. Also happened to me not too long ago except on XP when I deleted the contacts on my phone. I resynced hoping that phone contacts would be restored, but instead stupid activesync deleted all the contacts off outlook even though AS was set to "replace items on device"!
Thankfully, all my contacts were moved to the "Deleted Items" folder, and I could restore them! (hit ctrl-6 when in outlook) I hope this helps.
Ross
Microsoft needs to make Vista Windows compatible.
After this happened to me twice I started to backup my contacts regularly with PIM Backup...
KarhU said:
After this happened to me twice I started to backup my contacts regularly with PIM Backup...
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damn straight! best program i've ever used. by backing up to a memory card once/twice daily you cant really go 'wrong' as such!
now, if only it was a 'requirement' for all cooked roms!
sorry to hear about your loss. lol. i very nearly lost my ENTIRE MSN messenger contact list (comprising of some 400+ contacts) but luckily i had 'tried' WLM on my smartphone before hand and it had synced them to that!
WLM is weird in the only sense that it will delete from both your phone and from your messenger list!
go back to XP Pro.
Vista is crap.
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Microsoft needs to make Vista Windows compatible.
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MistaRip said:
go back to XP Pro.
Vista is crap.
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Service Pack 1 set for early next year. Looks like it'll fix a lot of stuff.
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Service Pack 1 set for early next year. Looks like it'll fix a lot of stuff.
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Typically one should never upgrade a Micky$ OS until SP1 is released, XP and W2k are both great examples. My biggest complaints are USB and network speed when copying data... just today went back to XP on my Thinkpad... just SO much easier when dealing with PDA's... (more importantly, my version of Ghost Server won't live under Vista... that's a deal closer for me... and screw Virtual PC and such, no time or desire)
Here is My 2 cents worth:
Windows 95 was a huge improvement over Windows 3.1. --- Excellent Job!!!!
Windows 98 was just a suckier version of Windows 95.
Windows Millenium Edition ME totally sucked. I fell for it. They got my $100.00 ----- ripped me off.
However Windows XP really hummed. --- Excellent Job!!!!
Windows Vista is just a suckier version of Windows XP.
Windows Vista = ME2 Only this time they're Not getting my $100.00
Thats just my Opinion.
Stick with XP Pro...............................(I can hear Mac users saying "get a Mac")
Mac is not a solution - it limits just about anything you want to do with the computer. IMHO Win XP offers much more in terms of available software and hardware compatibility (even over Vista).
I agree Mac is Not an answer. I got a supervisor at work always telling me how much better a Mac is. I never agree with him.
My Laptop has a door on the side where you can slide out the HDD. I have 3 Hard Drives.
1 has Linux -- can't begin to figure that one out.
2 has XP -- its my Old Faithful. Tried and True. The one I use.
3 has Vista Ultimate -- slmgr -rearm every 30 days. Testing it. It really does suck.
PIM Backup is the best!
Sorry to hear. I use intellisync to sync my data. I sync some stuff from lotus notes and some stuff from outlook. But the main reason i use intellisync is because before it does anything it prompts you with a dialog and tells you what it is about to do. Then I can go ahead or cancel or re sync everything.
I've tried other products and they didn't prompt and I've spent hours cleaning up duplicate entry's after the first sync.
Right now I'm having a few probs with intellisync though and am working with their support to figure it out. But its still one of the best sync programs I know of.
crispy78 said:
I've just installed Microsoft Vista and find it a very nice operating system.
For my phone I had to install the Vista version of ActiveSync, I paired up my phone with that prorgam and it worked flawlessly.
But what FU#[email protected]% idiot has made an option to overwrite the phone data with that of outlook WITHOUT asking a deletion approval.
When installing software on my Vista machine askes me several time if I'm sure.... But that louwsy program just deletes everything without even asking.
Fortunately, I was just a merely 250 contacts that I've completely lost since my backup was lost due to the Vista installation.....
Normally the contacts would be in the deleted messages box, but since I've turned of that option I completely lost everything...
BASTARDS !!!!!!
(Sorry for that.)
I'm going outside now and break something....
Hope that'll release my frustration..
****ING BASTARDS AT MICROSOFT
IDIOTS
HOPE THEY ALL GO TO HELL FOR THIS
(Sorry again).
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I just had the EXACT same thing happen to me. Its a good thing I had a "not too old" backup saved to the Airset Website. Otherwise I would have been TOTALLY screwed.
yep i know how you feel, had the same thing happen on my Magician and on the Hermes and more times than i can remember on the Nokia suite previous to that (believe it or not its worse than Activesync).
as for Vista im running it on the home laptop (it came with it) it is quite a shiny OS and considering the amount of surveys and control groups microsoft apparently did to perfect it (or finish it) its surprising there wasnt one Pocket PC user that said "hey you know that over write function in activesync..." unless there was and they didnt listen.
It wasn't Vista that caused the problem...
Personally I like Vista, the only thing I find crap is that you have to approve every program to run. It's great for security, but really crap If you play WOW, everytime the answer is yes, Vista won't remember it.
And someone mentioned that there is a choice how to sync.
That's correct, but when you pair your device it's kinda hidden in extra options I believe, I've found the button now. Still lost my contacts.
I find it really absurd that there isn't any message or approval question on the device. I think it would be nicer to let the program ask what data to keep what data to lose, if I setup syncing with data from the computer It will overwrite telephonenumber I've changed in the phone.
But I think I have got my contact almost complete again. It's a shame that I lost the phonenumbers that I pickup with te red button (ignore) or wiggle the scrollwheel up and down (silence).
Without wasting your time discussing how I'm here...I have a bunch of calendar entries on my Tilt, all deleted in my PC, and I want to syncy the Tilt to the PC. But it comes up and tells me on the device: "There has been a change on teh server that requires you to resynchronize all items on your device. All changes made since your last successful synch will be deleted. Do you want to continue?"
If I continue, I end up with all deleted from my devie, none moved to my PC (I have them in a backup, but restoring them to the device doesn't help).
Do have have a way around this?
how many entries r we talking? i mean if 20 or less i would just type them into calendar on pc for a quick fix.
never had the issue so can't help w/way around
Well, I have probably 140 entries over several months.
The good news is I can get many back which are on my Work calendar, but maybe a not so large number that are not on my work calendar that I can't get back. But then, I need to identify what those are. That's the harder part, seaching through and figuring out which will be thre, which will not, etc.
I would think there should be a way to not have the PC be FORCED to be the master.
But, I'm not optimistic.
Fairly new to the latest incarnation of WM and am just getting to grips with a TyTn II which I've bought that overall I'm quite impressed with. There are a couple of issues that I'm having with it that probably stem from a lack of familiarity with WM and also from drawing comparison with Palm and Nokia devices which I have used previously as PDAs. Any comments to avoid me wasting hours trying to find out how to achieve the potentially unachievable would thus be much appreciated:
1) Synchronising - files/folders: My previous Palm handled this QUITE well where MS Office type docs were concerned (Documents To Go) and even the Nokia Phones seem to do what I want to achieve better than I can manage with the TyTn just now. Essentially, I want to be able to synchronise the TyTn with a folder on the PC that contains JUST a number of Office type documents which I want to synchronise. Currently, no matter what settings I opt for I cannot do this. I know I can drag and drop from the File Manager part of Windows Mobile Device Centre (Vista PC) but that will not achieve automated synch for changed versions etc. Currently I select Synch Files (which is not selected by default on WMDC) and then move the files I want copied into the device into that folder. OK so far. Yet, when I hit Synch it then seems to insist on copying EVERYTHING on the phone into that folder on the PC too!!!! That makes a snych quite a long process and essentially all I want to synch is the 8-10 Office docs I want. Is this beyond WM? I would have thought this a relatively basic requirement which even Nokia with its Briefcase folder seems to be capable of doing. I have tried deleting all the non-Office files out of the PC file synch folder that WMDC created and then uses but then of course that just result in them being taken off the phone when I Synch!!! I've scoured Help, the Manual and numerous sites trying to find away round this but so far I do not seem to be able to synch files unless I synch everything
2) Notes (Categories v Folders): I use Notes on a PC a lot and because I use so many I tend to have them bundled in categories. Despite what I try though I do not seem to be able to get any semblance of order to them when they come across to the TyTn which just shoves them all in 'My Documents' (this makes it a real pain when using Explorer on the device too as there are 200 or so notes to scroll through when looking). I've tried moving the notes on the TyTn to Folders on the device after they are copied over but that just seems to cause a second copy on the PC to be created with the 'note title/folder' format upon the next synch?? Outlook clearly uses categories in a way that does not seem to be replicated on WM/TyTn and as such it seems you can only achieve a long unorganised list of notes on the target device. Using folders on the device does not then read across well to Outlook.
I am conscious that there are apps out there that might allow better management of the Notes problem (Phat Notes) and there may be better folder/file synch options with software like Documents To Go but I am wondering if I'm missing something with the basics here that mean I should be able to do what I want. It does seem odd that selecting Synch Files should result in such an arbitrary copying of the whole content of the device when on may devices it is there merely to ensure you can create a Briefcase type folder to synch just what YOU want.
I have not yet upgraded to the new WM 6.1 either so not sure if that provides any solutions. I plan to do that shortly (and am assuming that if I do the WM 6.1 I won't ALSO need the ROM upgrade that was put up by HTC before that?). Any help much appreciated
Use GoodSync (Link). It allows Bi-directional sync, allows you to select folders to synchronize and has a host of other features. There is a free and pro verion of goodsync so check it out and decide which one you want.
IMO it can take care of almost all the things that you mentioned ...
Whats wrong with Outlook? It does Notes/Favs/Tasks/Calender/Contacts/E-mail...I mean theres not much it doesn't do besides SMS and Calling from computer. These are really easy to use and customize files to push back and forth when connected to Activesync.
Empgamer: I've got the same issues with WM6,1 as you described. I'm genuinely amazed that Windows Mobile syncing to windows (Vista, so no active sync for us) doesn't work out of the box when managing edited documents on your PC & PPC. The PalmOS, with Documents To Go, always did an excellent job of this. As for the notes, I can't even get Mobile Office OneNote to sync with OneNote on my PC! What's the point of that?
Anyway, I'd be very curious as to how you solved your issues; I'm currently spending countless hours trying to get the functionality on my Windows Mobile device that I took for granted on PalmOS. (BTW, DocsToGo doesn't support syncing on Windows Mobile! Seriously, that's one of the main things DTG had going for it. I'll never understand what developers think when they come out with these products.
My Tytn2 has worked fine for over a year. Recently outlook.pst file got too large so I created a new mail profile and have been using that (outlook2.pst). I noticed it was not synchronising so renamed my outlook2.pst to outlook.pst restarted outlook and all is working fine, but attempting to synchronise is causing following errors now (using Sync Center on Vista Business):
Mobile Device Center: “Synchronization could not be completed. If this condition persists, try deleting and then re-creating the device's sync relationships.”
HTC Tytn 2: “A problem has occurred with repllog.exe”
I can t seem to get past these errors whatever I do (I have deleted and re-created the partnership numerous times). HELP!
To bad you cant sync mate! However there are no need for another "cant sync whit" tread. Use another that already are discussing this issue! This forum is getting harder and harder to read when people make new treads on the same issue every day. Another thing, you do not mention what rom you are on, this issue may have everything to do whit just that. This might be a loongshot as I dont have much detail on your problem but try to delete partnership whit phone and run this cab I made once I had replog issue on one of my rom`s: Raiisak`s Repair Activesync (just a simple cab that use FixASRunAt.exe).
I did have a really good search round Google and this forum as I know people round here are a bit touchy from last time I posted.
I did not find anything similar or any answers.
I do not use ActiveSync -- I am on Vista using Mobile Device Centre.
ROM is the standard one it came with. CE OS 5.2.19212 (Build 19212.1.0.3)
I have not changed any settings on the phone -- just Outlook.pst as described -- I'm sure this is the cause but not sure how to fix it.
Also, I cannot copy CAB files or PHM regedit to the phone because I cannot connect to it at all!!
So I've been diligently managing a pretty pristine outlook contact list that im pretty satisfied with. I've been syncing back and forth via bluetooth (usb port went bad about a year ago).
Recently i reformatted and reinstalled windows 7 on my computer. I did not back up my contacts on the computer because they are on the phone and figuring i'd get them on the re-sync (which I've done before). Unfortunately In that short time period I managed to smash my phone touch screen up pretty good, making things more difficult (and a lack of tap and hold). I cannot for the life of me get the two to sync up to each other via active sync. They pair together fine and send files back and forth to each other, but cannot get them to sync to each other. In the past i've just gone on the phone active sync > connect via bluetooth and then it starts doing its thing in windows mobile device center... Whenever I do it now I get the message
"cannot connect using bluetooth to a pc that supports active sync. you may be out of range. it then asks if i would like to create a different partnership with a pc."
I've obviously created a new pair, turned on visibility and discovery on both pc and phone. Each time it gives me that error message about creating a new pair.
A couple of side notes.
-I have some thoughts that it might be a conflict with the new and old bluetooth pairing but i cannot delete the old one due to the lack of touch screen for the tap and hold. (perhaps there is a way to do this on the hard keyboard)
-I could give a crap about the phone, I've already got a new one. I just want to preserve my contacts.
-I've made a pim backup and a sprite backup of pertinent info but its my understanding that both of these only work with my phone and not outlook, not to mention only my specific rom version.
What is the easiest way to proceed to salvage my contacts?
Sorry for the rather long post on a familiar and oft rehashed question but I couldn't find the answering in any other posts and wanted to be pretty clear with my post.
first of all, since you have made a pimbackup of contacts, your data is SAFE no matter what ROM or which windows mobile device you have! the sprite backup, on the other hand, CAN be specific to your ROM/device depending on exactly what you chose to back up.
so you can always restore the pimbackup archive to a good working windows mobile device (borrow a friends?) and sync up that device with your desktop.
with that out of the way...lets see...you've got a bad screen? i would suggest using a "remoting" tool (like mymobiler)...but i think mymobiler requires a working activesync over usb...but you say your usb port is screwed?
if you can use the screen just enough to install "wifi remote access 1.7" and configure it and enable WIFI, then you can remote control your device using the relevant functionality of "wifi remote access 1.7" from the browser on your desktop, assuming you have a WIFI network at home.
with the screen hurdle out of the way, i suppose it would make your ability to configure things on the device a bit more possible. for starters, even though you have used pimbackup, also install microsoft myphone and upload your contacts there as well. while you're at it, you can mess around with activesync on your device some more to try to get it to sync.
BUT! i think the problem might be on your recently refreshed desktop. i hear windows mobile device center should be upgraded because an update is available.
if all else fails, you can use pimbackup to create a "non-binary" archive (the style is configurable during the backup wizard use case). this non-binary archive is actually a zip file containing a csv file (comma separated values). so you can rename the archive to "something.zip", extract the zip on your desktop and use microsoft excel to open the extracted csv file. here, you will get an easy to edit file with your contacts laid out over rows/columns.