If while flashing my ROM from ATT Tilt to Duttys ROM and i corrupt my WM6 is there a way to Restore it?
Can i make an Image of my ROM? Like the program Acronis True image Program i have on my computer.
wat do u mean by corrupt, and what do you mean by restoring? if by restoring u mean return it to how it was when u first flashed dutty's rom, then just hard reset
never use a 3rd party image program for phone images,these images are customly flashed by hardsply through bootloader and made from chefs so there's no in between capability of working with these images unless you plan on cooking and working with roms directly before creating/editing the images
I mean if some how i mess up the Flash of the ROM is there a way to restore to When i first got my phone. The reason i am saying this i dont want to Brick my phone. No what is the risk and how can i protect myself from it
then you need to flash you original rom/radio, and probably ur original spl too
RussianTechno101 said:
I mean if some how i mess up the Flash of the ROM is there a way to restore to When i first got my phone. The reason i am saying this i dont want to Brick my phone. No what is the risk and how can i protect myself from it
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The simple fact is that you take the risk of bricking your phone by flashing. There's no way to protect yourself.
Having said that I have flashed over 50 times since January, haven't bricked it yet. And there are "ways" to recover it. But they are so complicated you need not worry about it unless you need to unbrick your phone.
if u read all the wiki's and such and follow procedures u shouldnt brick ur phone..i spent a long time reading and familiarizing with the steps before flashing and ever since my first flash its been a smooth ride...and never had any problems
hardspl
just make sure you hardspl before you flash the rom and you're good
Alright thanx if i have any probelms i will post
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First of all forgive me if this question as been asked a million times but to be honest I'm finding the Dream section a mess.
Now onto my question.... I've rooted my G1 and I'm currently running JF 1.51 with hero skin, now I'm I correct that I will always be rooted as long as I stick to custom roms?
The other thing is when I go into recovery mode I get a message at the top of the screen something like "Unable to find /system/command/recovery.cmd" am I correct that means I'm unable to proform backups? which is no big deal for me.
Finally whats the deal with this new spl, do I really need it to run a hero ported rom? I only ask because in all my years flashing windows phones the spl is something you should flash once and leave alone to avoid errors that can brick your phone.
Yes you will always be rooted. Not really sure on the recovery thing...You might want to try to fix that by flashing another recovery image. Yes you need the new spl to run the hero ROM since its HUGE
alritewhadeva said:
Yes you will always be rooted. Not really sure on the recovery thing...You might want to try to fix that by flashing another recovery image. Yes you need the new spl to run the hero ROM since its HUGE
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Thanks for the fast reply, as for the recovery thing like I said I would never back anything up and restore it anyway (I've always started afresh with every new rom)
Now going back to the spl thing.... Ive already updated my radio to the latest so when I do finally go for a hero rom and do flash my spl is the new spl a custom one which will allow me to reflash back down to a non-hero rom? or do I have to go back to the orginal hardspl first?
The new SPL was released by haykuro and it allows you to have about 30 more mb of space on your system partition. It still allows you to flash non-hero ROMs as well as hero ROMs. Sorry for the slow response >.>
Thanks alritewhadeva everything is clearer now.
Ok I've done the 1 Click Root process. The problem is, I totally UNrooted my phone before I did the 1 click root. I tried to load a Hero rom I got off the www.theunlockr.com website but I had to update the SPL which bricked my phone. I did wipe first so thats not the problem. I don't know what went wrong when I bricked my phone. I am getting a new from t-mobile(I kinda told them the donut 1.6 update screwed my phone up).
Now I want to root again with the 1 click but do I need to go back to the original build RC29 build or whatever it was in order to root with the 1 click ? And when I flash to a new rom do I need to update the SPL again?
READ FIRST!! I dont know where so search. I dont feel like finding you all the guides warnings and post about it. There are many precautions to take while flashing hero and even if you follow all of them to the "T" you still have a big chance of bricking your phone so use the Search Bar
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READ FIRST!! I dont know where so search. I dont feel like finding you all the guides warnings and post about it. There are many precautions to take while flashing hero and even if you follow all of them to the "T" you still have a big chance of bricking your phone so use the Search Bar
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The thing is I've flashed all sorts of rom's before, but I wanted to try the 1 click rooting process. I think what happened is I flashed the SPL before I flashed the updated radio. I was doing some research on the whole thing. I flashed the SPL first.
if you use the DREAIMG.nbh to go back to rc-29, it is really easier to use the telnet commands then it is to root with the one click imo, you can use one-click root, but you have to find the newer version of the recovery flasher, and if you use it and don't flash a custom rom, then the system will overwrite the custom recovery image with the stock one. if you use the telnet commands then you will overwrite the stock recovery image with a custom one, so the telnet commands are more stable
to update your spl, make sure you have a pvt board in bootloader (camera and power) and that your radio is 2.22.19.26I (make sure you have that radio, not just assume after you flash it) then you can get rid of all the user error in flashing the 1.33.2005 SPL.
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The thing is I've flashed all sorts of rom's before, but I wanted to try the 1 click rooting process. I think what happened is I flashed the SPL before I flashed the updated radio. I was doing some research on the whole thing. I flashed the SPL first.
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Were you already rooted when you did the 1 click root? - if you were then that might have been were the mess up happened because once you do the one click root you have to flash a rom (probabably cyanogen would be best) to continue or you lose root.
Following that question if you were already rooted and had hard spl and new radio - the one click might have cause you to lose that.
You have to flash from hard spl to danger spl
Radio should be newest or second to newest
Also it is said to flash hero rom right after flashing spl. - Which means not turning off your phone or rebooting after flashing
- I saw a video were they were at the rainbow boot screen and they flashed the Danger Spl and then inserted a new sd card that had hero and flashed it without rebooting.
Read up more on this
is one click still ok ?
I've had my G1 for about a yr now. Watching the mods grow . Never had thought about rooting just because I didn't want to have to keep changing to keep up to date. Then the one click came out and it was time. Ordered my 8gig class6 sd and before I got it Google did this C&D to CY. I see people saying they are doing the 1 click method and the links they put on are before the C&D. Can it still work ? Also everyone who tries to give directions how to get root and roms are different. Even this thread has been changed or something was left out. Is there a true one click method ? I tried theUnlockr way 3 times and I still wound upwith a wiped phone. Please Help Me ...
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I've had my G1 for about a yr now. Watching the mods grow . Never had thought about rooting just because I didn't want to have to keep changing to keep up to date. Then the one click came out and it was time. Ordered my 8gig class6 sd and before I got it Google did this C&D to CY. I see people saying they are doing the 1 click method and the links they put on are before the C&D. Can it still work ? Also everyone who tries to give directions how to get root and roms are different. Even this thread has been changed or something was left out. Is there a true one click method ? I tried theUnlockr way 3 times and I still wound upwith a wiped phone. Please Help Me ...
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one click will not work in donut 1.6. it will be patched, there is a thorough guide in my sig. i also have links i can give you for cm 4.0.4 and 4.1.11.1 if you want them.
1-click root only works with CRC1 and lower. Personally, I prefer to downgrade to RC29 and manually root it. I've done it about 20 times that way and have never once had an issue. In fact, I did it last night and today that way and both phones are rooted with Hero ROMs and running perfectly.
My advice, find a good tutorial (there are plenty, particularly the stickies on XDA on the subject) and download all necessary files ahead of time so that you aren't stuck in the middle of rooting looking for a file. If you want to flash the update "Danger" SPL, there is a combination radio/spl so that bricking is less likely. Search XDA for it. Also, check if you have PVT board first (camera+power). If not, brick it you will (or more than likely will). If I had to guess the main reason for problems and bricks it is that people rush the process and skip steps because they started the process without reading the whole tutorial.
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Were you already rooted when you did the 1 click root? - if you were then that might have been were the mess up happened because once you do the one click root you have to flash a rom (probabably cyanogen would be best) to continue or you lose root.
Following that question if you were already rooted and had hard spl and new radio - the one click might have cause you to lose that.
You have to flash from hard spl to danger spl
Radio should be newest or second to newest
Also it is said to flash hero rom right after flashing spl. - Which means not turning off your phone or rebooting after flashing
- I saw a video were they were at the rainbow boot screen and they flashed the Danger Spl and then inserted a new sd card that had hero and flashed it without rebooting.
Read up more on this
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I was rooted before I did the one click but I downgraded to RC29 with DREAIMG.nbh file. I did the 1 click process fine. I figured that what fxcked up my phone is that i flashed the custom SPL before I flashed the new radio first. I'm pretty sure thats what messed it up. I wanted to the Amon Ra's Recovery image and I didn't know how install that with out doing the 1 click root process.
ya if you flash spl before raidio that's what messed you up ! always radio first then spl . but you know that now .can you get in recovery at all ?
lucky 69 said:
ya if you flash spl before raidio that's what messed you up ! always radio first then spl . but you know that now .can you get in recovery at all ?
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No I can't get passed the G1 boot screen. Its ok though T-Mo is sending me a "LIKE NEW" G1. I told them the donut update screwed my phone up. I can't believe I did the SPL first but its a mistake that could have cost me more then a 19.95 delivery fee that IS being waived by T-Mo.
But heres the question with 1 click root do I need to downgrade to RC29 or no?
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No I can't get passed the G1 boot screen. Its ok though T-Mo is sending me a "LIKE NEW" G1. I told them the donut update screwed my phone up. I can't believe I did the SPL first but its a mistake that could have cost me more then a 19.95 delivery fee that IS being waived by T-Mo.
But heres the question with 1 click root do I need to downgrade to RC29 or no?
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no just be on stock cupcake and use the 1 click root. Then when you did that go into recovery and flash a rom that is not hero or requires danger spl
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no just be on stock cupcake and use the 1 click root. Then when you did that go into recovery and flash a rom that is not hero or requires danger spl
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Sounds good. Before screwing things up I always had good success in flashing roms trying multiple roms in a day. My favorite is the xRom. I am curious to see if eventually there will be a Cliq rom.
1) Is it possible to brick while rooting? (my guess is if a file is corrupt or you type something incorrectly it would)
2)Possible while flashing?
3) Has anyone ever bricked their hero?
just use the auto rooter in fresh's kitchen, its basically two clicks and your done, and use the search functionhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606172
and to answer your question ive never seen it done but guess its possible
Haha, no no I already did all this jazz, I was just wondering
1. Not likely
2. Yes, but nandroid backup will save you.
3. Stay in the CDMA section, don't wander through te Hero section, and you should be ok.
Just don't get click happy
the only way that people seem to have bricked their heros is if they try to flash the Radio or a GSM ROM. just be sure that you download your rom from this section of the site, CDMA Hero
In fact, I'd recommend you start with FRESH 1.1, found at www.geekfor.me . it's what I use and it's great.
+1 for Fresh ROM 1.1 Also, flash gbhil's Gumbo Kernel to your phone. You'll notice a disgusting increase in speed (and less lag) from your phone.
ive never seen it done but I guess its possible. always do a nandroid ( saved my ass a few times)
and in theory if you **** up with a nandroid backup then you can even wipe to stock, correct?
I'll get back to you about bricking a Hero after I've finished trying some overclocking options in the kernel
@gbhil,
hahaha.
"OH MY GOD THIS IS LIGHTNING FAST"
"Wait, whats the sizziling sound?"
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I'll get back to you about bricking a Hero after I've finished trying some overclocking options in the kernel
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send me the good stuff I've got the black tie protection plan at best buy... if I do manage to brick most likely sprit will hook me up if not then best buy will
duplicate post, sorry.
1. As long as you study up on how to root the phone you will have no problems. Flip has a kitchen that you can download and it will root your phone automatically and decrease the odds of you messing up the process. Look for it in one of the stickies.
2. Installing ROMS for the CDMA Hero won't brick the phone. Just be sure to download the CDMA only ROMS as people have bricked their phones by downloading the GSM ROMS.
3. There have been a few people who have bricked their phones due to flashing the wrong ROM (GSM). If you download CDMA ROMs you won't have any problem.
Remember to do a Nandroid backup right after rooting your phone so you can always return to state if you have problems down the road, particulary associated with Beta ROMs if you chose to install them.
**Edit** LOL, I started the reply just after the thread started and stopped to make something to eat. Come back to send the reply and find it on page 2. lol
I bought a G1 2 days ago and i've been reading a lots of tutorials on how to root the phone, i have hacked/Modified every phone i've had so far (Motorola/Sony Ericsson/Nokia) and i would like to do the same with my G1 (That;s why i bought it for) the problem is that every tutorial i see wants me to downgrade to RC29 which isn't complicated but the problem is that it has the DMD64 update.
1- Is the rooting process the same for DMD64 or do i need something special to downgrade? i read about the goldcard but i also heard it was not necessary all the time.
2- Since this is my first time rooting , is there a way to make sure i don't brick my phone? like making a backup of the OS or whatever i need to fix it in case i brick it.
3-What are the latest/best files to root it things like Recovery, ROM, SPL (i don't fully understand what this is and how it is different from the recovery)
Thank You.
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I bought a G1 2 days ago and i've been reading a lots of tutorials on how to root the phone, i have hacked/Modified every phone i've had so far (Motorola/Sony Ericsson/Nokia) and i would like to do the same with my G1 (That;s why i bought it for) the problem is that every tutorial i see wants me to downgrade to RC29 which isn't complicated but the problem is that it has the DMD64 update.
1- Is the rooting process the same for DMD64 or do i need something special to downgrade? i read about the goldcard but i also heard it was not necessary all the time.
2- Since this is my first time rooting , is there a way to make sure i don't brick my phone? like making a backup of the OS or whatever i need to fix it in case i brick it.
3-What are the latest/best files to root it things like Recovery, ROM, SPL (i don't fully understand what this is and how it is different from the recovery)
Thank You.
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1: I have no idea if the rooting process is the same for DMD64 or not, but I do not see why it would be any different. But, I could be wrong. I was lucky enough to have RC29 when I purchased mine.
2: The only thing that you can do to make sure you do not brick your phone is to FOLLOW EACH STEP CAREFULLY! Do not skip steps, or add your own. This mainly applies to flashing the Radio and SPL. If you f*ck that up, you're bricked, heh.
3: This confused me at first as well.
What is a SPL? The SPL, or Second Program Loader, in conjunction with the IPL comprise a device's bootloader. Aside from bootstrapping Android, the bootloader also fulfills various diagnostic functions. One of these functions is the manipulation of data in the device's internal flash ram. Depending on the SPL installed, the user can apply a signed NBH file, flash nand images, and more. Note that the SPL is installed and operates independently of the Android build that runs atop it.
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The recovery is kind of like pressing F8 when you are booting into Windows. It lets you make changes to your system, w/o booting the the complete Operating System (The Android OS in this case). Using the recovery menu, you can flash new ROMs, format your SD card, enable the USB Mass Storage so you can see the SD card within windows, do a factory reset on the device, open up a terminal to manually input commands, perform a backup of your device (you can back up most everything on it) which allows you to restore from that backup if you mess something up.
But, then there is your FastBoot screen as well. FastBoot is where you need to be to flash your SPL and Radio. I am not 100% sure as to the correct order of the flashing off the top of my head, but google around (or simply search this forum), and you will find all the info you need.
Not all ROMs require you to have the "Danger/Haykuro/Death SPL" though. Many of them will work on a stock SPL. However, if you do feel the need to try one of the ROMs that require you to use the Death SPL, you can find all the information about it here: http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/SPL.
Good luck with your new G1, and do NOT be afraid to ask for help if you need it. Nobody likes to see one of these devices get bricked
Thanks a lot for helping me I thought that the recovery was the f8 in a computer too but I still have my doubts about the spl and the radio. I'll try to root my phone tomorrow i'll give you guys an update after I get to 1.5.
Wish me luck xD.
Frodcord said:
Thanks a lot for helping me I thought that the recovery was the f8 in a computer too but I still have my doubts about the spl and the radio. I'll try to root my phone tomorrow i'll give you guys an update after I get to 1.5.
Wish me luck xD.
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Remember, always RADIO BEFORE THE SPL. If you do decide to mess with SPL, make sure to flash engineering (or hard) first, and then flash Danger/Death SPL thru fastboot. This eliminates 99% chance of the brick.
Good luck.
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Remember, always RADIO BEFORE THE SPL. If you do decide to mess with SPL, make sure to flash engineering (or hard) first, and then flash Danger/Death SPL thru fastboot. This eliminates 99% chance of the brick.
Good luck.
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Lol how is he going to know what fastboot/adb is? OP, don't mess with the SPL and radio until you know what your doing. Flash a rom like cyanogen or Enom's AOSP if you don't want to mess with them.
Ok I've done it i am running 1.5 now so if a person comes asking about DMD64 (G1) now you know what to say. You don't need a goldcard or something else just the dreaimg.nbh and there is nothing to worry about.
I still don't fully understand the SPL and Radio part so i'll keep reading until i am ready to use a custom ROM.
so just root DMD64 the normal way?
First off I want to say that I know my way around a WinMo flash,reflash, nand breaking and all that jazz pretty well. But Android...not so much.
I ordered a G1 off Ebay recently, it has been shipped, but in the mean time, I was wanting to research the rooting and flashing process..It looks very involved...Very involved..lol
I've read the guides and such but was curious about the rom/radio bricking issues. With WinMo theres alot of radios..How about Android(My phone is an unlocked T-Mobile)?? Are there still known issues?? I like this rom http://lb.vg/fVl3w
Are the guides for rooting on here currently up to date(I think they are, and they probably are)?? Do I have to root to flash a new rom on there(I think I do)??
Sorry for the n00bish questions, but I really don't wanna kill my phone.
Can all bricks be fixed via the user??
Thanks
Edit: What is the situation of Flash?? What is supported??Is Hulu supported??
2.1 and 2.2 Froyo..Whats the difference??
smurfgod said:
First off I want to say that I know my way around a WinMo flash,reflash, nand breaking and all that jazz pretty well. But Android...not so much.
I ordered a G1 off Ebay recently, it has been shipped, but in the mean time, I was wanting to research the rooting and flashing process..It looks very involved...Very involved..lol
I've read the guides and such but was curious about the rom/radio bricking issues. With WinMo theres alot of radios..How about Android(My phone is an unlocked T-Mobile)?? Are there still known issues?? I like this rom http://lb.vg/fVl3w
Are the guides for rooting on here currently up to date(I think they are, and they probably are)?? Do I have to root to flash a new rom on there(I think I do)??
Sorry for the n00bish questions, but I really don't wanna kill my phone.
Can all bricks be fixed via the user??
Thanks
Edit: What is the situation of Flash?? What is supported??Is Hulu supported??
2.1 and 2.2 Froyo..Whats the difference??
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First root (did it yesterday for the first time, phone was rooted when I got it).
You need root for certain apps, for installing another spl, custom roms.
Root installs recovery (if I remember ok).
Upgrade spl from stock to 1.33.2003 (zip file in recovery). Now you can use fastboot (safer!).Reboot in fastboot and flash first another recovery, then another radio (2.x) radio (needed for spl 1.33.2005), reboot again, go to fastboot and flash the dangerspl 1.33.2005 (or use MTDpartitions, but I got problems with it). Then flash roms.(no need for the old hardspl).
Flash not supported(arm incompatible).
Bricks can only be fixed with an JTAG, so be carefull (always wait) ! ROMS can't brick your device, only the officials can (which contain spl and radio).
Read for flashing the spl's (if you have rogers(canada) it's different).
Idk what this user means by saying that flash isn't compatible with the arm processor.
But yes android 2.2 supports flash all the way to flash 10 but on the g1 I don't think it would be so good on 528mhz because flash is pretty bloated on system resources. But flash videos are fine hulu runs fine for me.
Woops sorry about the double post I refreshed page and it submitted info twice. I did not see a delete function.
Should I do any sort of formatting or partitioning on my SD card or just let the G1 do it??
I've got an 8gig SDHC Class 4 card also.
I've also been reading about J-Tagging the G1..Theres an adapter on here http://miniurl.com/49008 and it's 20USD for the adapter but I think I have to heek it up to an Omnia Repair box..Is that right?? This video http://miniurl.com/49009 shows em hooking one up to a white box..and the only white box on there site is for the Omnia Repair one and it's 229 Euro's(304USD).
Does the first reply have the correct steps for rooting my phone?? Is that for all versions. I'm not sure if mines a R29 or lower.
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks
~SMurf