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T-Mobile Wing with MS Voice Command - Are you having problems too!

I am looking for users with problems using the MS Voice Command on the T-Mobile Wing/Herald and their fixes or commments.
I have been using WM devices and MS Voice Command for many years. I have had a variety of devices all using voice command; but none have been worse at recognition and speed as my Wing has. How does everyone else with a wing feel about MS Voice Commands performance.
Problems I experience:
Slow response to initialization (1-2 seconds usually)
Slow finding a contact and confirming (2-4 seconds)
Most times with some background noise just gives up and makes that aweful beep.
Always asks to Please try again
Will not understand through bluetooth headset at all.
Commonly mistakes simple names for others i.e. (John Patrick)
Now the voice command can work pretty accuratly in a queit room other than the responsiveness, but I have had it installed on numerous devices and know how it should opperate and the tolerance to noise. I have overclocked my CPU to 273 and doesnt seem to help. I have tried increasing the page pool to 4mb which I have 23mbs for memory and still no luck. Ive even tried the combination of the two but doesnt seem to help. No other progams have been installed for test purposes to see if there is any conflicts and I have about 73 contacts, and sync very little content.
My previous device was a Wizard which respectively is very simular. It did work good with voice command 1.6 both on WM5 & WM6. I have had it installed on a Audiovox PPC4400 (WM2003), Treo 700wx, Blue Angel (WM5), and a Hermes (WM6); all the later devices worked best with no noticable delay or comprehension issues. The Herald will work with the same bluetooth equipment almost flawlessly, the wing will initiate the command but always fail to understand or will pull up something else.
I would like to know if I'm and isolated instance or if everyone has this problem.
Thanks
Jcostanza4

Works fine for me! However, I do speak in a Robotic tone.
Naw, I cant get that thing to do what I tell it.

YES!!!! MS Voice Command on the Wing is almost unusable for me. On my Wizard it was amazing -- fast and accurate. On the Wing frustrating, maddening and worthless.
I have experimented with standard versus overclocking, mic gain settings... everything I can think of. It seems to be a little bit better if I have Bluetooth turned off -- but just a little bit.
I have been reading these forums since the Wing was released and have been surprised that others have not commented on the problems with MS Voice Command on the Wing.
I sure wish there was an answer. Does anyone know what the problem is?

I agree with you, I dont know why more people haven't brought it up.
This is one of the biggest downfalls of the Wing for me. I love everything else even speed when overclocked and the page pool make it quite fast. But I just disable voice command completly because it is so unrelaible. I think it would more likely be along the lines of a hardware compatibility issue that the software would have to overcome or a fix in the OS; but I really dont know.
I wonder if the Herald guys get this problem or if its just an issue with the Wing OS.
Time will tell.
Jcostanza4-

It seems like it's just the crappy microphone on the bottom. It picks up EVERY noise around you and that confuses the voice command. I've noticed that if I use the wired headset that came with my wing it's almost always accurate.
Take a voice note in a semi-noisy environment and you'll see what I'm talking about. It definitely is not a noise canceling microphone.

Well... I can confirm that the audio quality of a voice note is clearly superior on my Wizard than on the Wing... considering that other people do not seem to be up-in-arms about MS Voice Command, I am coming to the conclusion that the microphone on the Wing is at fault.

Has anyone had problems reported with phone calls
Ive asked people if I sound faint or hard to hear and they say it sounds fine/normal. Also bluetooth mics also seem to have the same problems with comprehension when other Window Mobile devices with the same hardware work like they should. Ive tested the Hermes with WM6 on the same bluetooth car kit with MS VoiceCommand over bluetooth and no problems; I know certain bluetooth with VC works and some dont, the Wing seems to operate just like the hermes as far as initiation. This would bypass the poor mic theory on the Wing right?

jcostanza4 said:
Ive asked people if I sound faint or hard to hear and they say it sounds fine/normal. Also bluetooth mics also seem to have the same problems with comprehension when other Window Mobile devices with the same hardware work like they should. Ive tested the Hermes with WM6 on the same bluetooth car kit with MS VoiceCommand over bluetooth and no problems; I know certain bluetooth with VC works and some dont, the Wing seems to operate just like the hermes as far as initiation. This would bypass the poor mic theory on the Wing right?
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I haven't used a bluetooth headset before on my wing but my wired headset works flawlessly almost every time. It could be that the bluetooth connection wasn't as strong or something (biased towards the wing not working when testing?). I still believe it's the microphone but I could be wrong

I havent really had too much problem with it, I'm using the PDAVIET rom and had to reinstall voice command once i had the rom, and it seems to work fine. Have you tweaked the mic gain?

Tweaking th mic gain.
dcmtnbkr said:
I havent really had too much problem with it, I'm using the PDAVIET rom and had to reinstall voice command once i had the rom, and it seems to work fine. Have you tweaked the mic gain?
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Is your device a wing or a herald?
Im still using the stock T-Mobile Rom on the wing and Ive enable and disable the mic gain; shows no improvement that I can tell. Now the Wing comes pre installed with Voice Command and does not have a remove from the Uninstall Program options. I did once try to install 1.6 over it to see if i could get back the remove option and when I clicked reset to finish after installing it hard reset on me.
On your PDAVIET rom, does the vioce command launch instantly, respond quickly, and understand you to some degree or is there some trouble in any of these areas?
Thanks for the info
jcostanza4

me, too - very disappointing indeed
Yes, I just got the Wing a couple of days ago after giving my wonderful Imate Jam one too many love taps (the touchscreen has stopped accepting any input)...and I'm experiencing exactly the symptoms you listed with VoiceCommand. It actually does seem to do a little better through the BT headset, so the "poor mike" theory might be on the right track. But without the BT, it can't understand a damn thing--even in perfectly quiet environments--and takes forever.
I've been using the Jam with VC for over two years, and it is fast and damn-near flawless. Indeed, I've been a huge VC zealot; 'never been able to understand why WM-device reviewers don't even mention it but instead say things like "it's too hard to dial calls one-handed when driving." And for years already, while the best that other devices could offer was "voice tags" that users had to manually create, VC has, as you know, seamlessly worked with all my ~500 Outlook contacts. As far as I'm concerned, VC is the killer app that provides a huge part of the value of WM devices. If you ask me for the phone number of any of my friends, family or business clients, I couldn't tell you, 'cuz I haven't dialed them in years.
Now comes the Wing to set progress back five years or so. I have 12 days to make a decision about returning it.

mtn_lion said:
Yes, I just got the Wing a couple of days ago after giving my wonderful Imate Jam one too many love taps (the touchscreen has stopped accepting any input)...and I'm experiencing exactly the symptoms you listed with VoiceCommand. It actually does seem to do a little better through the BT headset, so the "poor mike" theory might be on the right track. But without the BT, it can't understand a damn thing--even in perfectly quiet environments--and takes forever.
I've been using the Jam with VC for over two years, and it is fast and damn-near flawless. Indeed, I've been a huge VC zealot; 'never been able to understand why WM-device reviewers don't even mention it but instead say things like "it's too hard to dial calls one-handed when driving." And for years already, while the best that other devices could offer was "voice tags" that users had to manually create, VC has, as you know, seamlessly worked with all my ~500 Outlook contacts. As far as I'm concerned, VC is the killer app that provides a huge part of the value of WM devices. If you ask me for the phone number of any of my friends, family or business clients, I couldn't tell you, 'cuz I haven't dialed them in years.
Now comes the Wing to set progress back five years or so. I have 12 days to make a decision about returning it.
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I made all of my contacts store with first name, last name format and the recognition appeared to get a lot better. You shouldn't have to do that but it seemed to help so you could try it. I am temporarily trying the wing overclocked to 273mhz with a boost up to 286mhz and in a quiet environment I haven't had a problem with the voice recognition finding my contacts. I still have trouble with the "play" command and it's VERY difficult for it to understand my "yes" for some reason but contact recognition is good and speedy.

The yes response or correct doesnt pick up well for me either
I did notice this too, but I always forget that thats one of my biggest problems with dailing by name or number. Let's say its a bad mic, even with a headset wired/wireless does it seem to lag in speedy ness or accuracy?
I did mess with page pool on the Wing, I ran 4mb for about 2 months then moved to a 6mb and the device is overall faster than the 4mb or 12mb. The 6mb page pool defenitly responds quick when it can understand you; but 70% of the time it can understand and gives that very long pause before saying "please repeat". It does seam like voice command when enabled eats about 5mb or ram. I have 22.5mb on a soft reset and after using voice comand once it drops to 13mb and then goes to 17mb after about 3 minutes of no use.
I have not read anything from the Hermes users to show that they are having these issues. Could it be an OS problem that translates the mic to the program?
Jcostanza-

kraftey--Thanks for the suggestion, which makes sense, I guess...but I'm not willing to organized my contacts by first name, period. Call me a neo-traditionalist.
As I've posted in the overclocking thread, I can't get my Wing above 228 without the screen flickering.... Ideas?
jcostanza4--Thanks, too. Honestly, in a *perfectly* quiet environment, recognition is not bad, and using either BT headset or not, time from command to response is 5-7 seconds. That doesn't sound like much, but in actual use at work it's an eternity--and made much worse by all of the "Please Repeat"s, additional delays and/or failures.
I've got the pagepool set to 6MB, and I've mucked about with performance-related registry tweaks, but the 5-7 seconds and poor recognition in real-world environments is the best I've been able to get out of VC so far.

Im overclocking the Wing with Battery Status Ver. 1.04.203
I have the device set on dynamic mode so its 201Mhz on minimal load and 273Mhz on Max Load. Battery can last quite a while like this and I havent had screen issues. I hope this helps. I had issues with some other overclocking apps, and eventually tried this one and it worked. No complaints and Ive been using it for about 4 months.

Yes. The darn thing is frustrating. This was supposed to be top of the line. I paid around $250 for the PDA and I paid $100 for a top of the line bluetooth, and the voice mail keeps trying to call my Brother Jeff, regardless of what I say. I paid $140 for a Jawbone, and got the same poor performance. Just how much do I have to pay to get something that works.

Yes, jc, that helps. I had already moved to BS, but now I'll update it with the 1.04 beta. For starters, what OmapClock was calling "228", BS calls "247." With the "released" version of BS, I still get the screen flicker above "247." We'll see if it's any different after I install the beta. Thx.

I solved my Voice Command Problems!
I originally posted all the issues I was having with Voice Command 1.6 on my T-mobile Wing. I now have a working Voice Command to my standards, it works as it has on all my other devices; a little slow at times but not more than a second lag. Recognition is accurate and mic also seems to work better.
Here is the steps I used. (this was completely accidental, as I was trying to get TouchFlo working on the Wing)
I reflashed the T-Mobile Wing RUU found in the Herald wiki section or this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321717
Then Flashed the Original T-Mobile Rom with Touch Flow found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329456
Then I Ran the Automatic 6mb page pool found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324955
Then I installed Battery Status and overclocked my Wing to 273mhz.
I dont know if the RUU that was released was an update to the original rom, but my mic seems to work great now and recognize with about a 90% accuracy rate.
Please try this at your own risk, This may work for me and may not work for you. By all means I am no programer nor can I assist in a sticky situation.
I suggest reading each of the other threads I have listed before attempting. I will not be responsible if you brick your device. There is alot of information in each thread that is not posted on the first Topic like using ASerg Policies or how the page pool works or common problems.
Thanks-
Jcostanza4

Start > Settings > System > Microphone AGC
I don't use voice dial because I had all the same probs as the original poster. May want to give this a try before all of the steps mentioned in the post before me

for me it is working fine most of the time but not as good as it did with my wizard it is not slow and recognizes commands most of the time, I am using the pdaviet rom build 12 I changed the page pool to 4mb and clocked to 260 with bs , my problem though is that I can't get voice command to work by pressing the bluetooth headset button wich works fine on the wizard.

Kaiser owner with a few queries

Hi all, my first post here. I have had my Kaiser now for about 3 weeks, its going well but I have a few questions.
On my old Moto, I had a bleep that sounds every 30secs if I had a text message or missed call alert. Is there a feature like this? Its very useful.
I can't seem to find the TV or VOD in the T-zones.
Is there a quicker way of sending a text instead of doing Messaging, New, SMS etc..??
Anyone used Bluetooth Audio program to send all sound to the BT headset (like MP3s)? Handy for when I am using my mono BT headset.
Is there a program that will switch off the phone and BT overnight and back on in the morning on a sked????
My Kaiser is a UK unlocked handset all as standard.
Now just waiting for Krussel to bring a case out for it. I have e-mailed Krussel and PDA Addons but got no reply.
Thanks all for the help.
P.S Tomtom have refused to support me as they say the TyTN 2 is not a supported product.

As far as the beep on text message alert I use PhoneAlarm. It will let me set the notification time interval as well as how many times it repeats itself. I also use Kaiser Notifications by Phil_UK LED notification program to change what LED's blink for missing Texts, emails or calls.
Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328596
As far as TomTom goes, I called them and they say that they dont support any WM6 phones as the front line guys have not been updated on WM6 yet. I think they may want to get on that in all honesty.
And I have no idea what you are talking about here:
I can't seem to find the TV or VOD in the T-zones.
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It was the 3G TV on T-zones and also their Video on Demand (VOD). Thanks for the other info.

Guys, regarding tomtom. They do support the Kaiser/TyTn 2. BUT, you must tell them that you have installed THEIR specially adapted tomtom version designed for the TyTn 2 and that your installation disk has their logo on it. It seems their staff have not been informed about this in many cases. However others who have been persistent have been successful. Ask the person to get their supervisor.
By the way the tomtom software and GPS is pretty straightforward and works well, so if there's a problem - report it in one of the GPS threads here and you may well get an answer.
Mike

S9's and Tilt

I just got my Moto s9's and the sound is great. One problem i have though is that i hear a LOT of static when the sound is high. How can i fix this? Second thing is what are the best registry edits combos that work for the loudest and clearest sound for listening to audio and talking through them?
I also realized that when i press the right button, it pops up the speech recognition thing and i want it to pop up voice command, is it possible? Thanks a lot.
edit: there is also a lot of skipping.

????
I here that sound too.......now that you said something I'm not crazy....I wish there is a fix .....my S9 are awsome
skipping chang the bit pool to a lower setting...

Great, thank you. now i have another problem, i can't get it to reconnect after it's idle! the only thing that works is the voice thingy and that's it. no music, no calls, no nothing. this happened after i installed the a2dp fix.

Nvm, i got the skipping worked (thanks mike!) now i have the static sound on my TIlt and it's horrible, on my 8525 it's PERFECT. i also can't get voice command to come on instead of the voice recognition thingy. so any help would be great, thanks.

also, i can't get them to work on my pc, i have the widcomm drivers but they would connect and then disconnect, any ideas?

hello
ok.....the noise that you get from the headset can be fixed try to 1) delete your H9's from device and repair them to your phone...pretend you just got them and your pairing them for the first time...see if that works....2) uninstall your AD2P fix......sometimes putting a fix cab or a zip file and unzipping it and applying it to your phone screws up yor phone's ability to run properly 3) how long ago did you get your H9's.....if you can return them or exchange them do so.
just a thought ....I put many rom's on my phone and they are awsome..BUT.....I've come to a understanding ...I had to replace my tilt once because I THINK it couldn't take the flashing.....You know what I did .....everything looks the same, like I flashed my rom ...but I didn't, all I installed we're cab file NO FLASHING OF ROM and my phone has run fine since then...I mean everything.....I'm not saying not to change your rom ...you can, but everything now latey, things come in cab format.....also uninstall and reinstall voice command.....then soft reset....my voice command over rides voice dial .........private msg me and if you want we can talk over these phone problems by e-mail or live person to person over our cell phones that's is fine with me
peace
mike

mike19722 said:
ok.....the noise that you get from the headset can be fixed try to 1) delete your H9's from device and repair them to your phone...pretend you just got them and your pairing them for the first time...see if that works....2) uninstall your AD2P fix......sometimes putting a fix cab or a zip file and unzipping it and applying it to your phone screws up yor phone's ability to run properly 3) how long ago did you get your H9's.....if you can return them or exchange them do so.
just a thought ....I put many rom's on my phone and they are awsome..BUT.....I've come to a understanding ...I had to replace my tilt once because I THINK it couldn't take the flashing.....You know what I did .....everything looks the same, like I flashed my rom ...but I didn't, all I installed we're cab file NO FLASHING OF ROM and my phone has run fine since then...I mean everything.....I'm not saying not to change your rom ...you can, but everything now latey, things come in cab format.....also uninstall and reinstall voice command.....then soft reset....my voice command over rides voice dial .........private msg me and if you want we can talk over these phone problems by e-mail or live person to person over our cell phones that's is fine with me
peace
mike
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Great, thanks a lot. I got the s9's a few days ago and love them. I'm trying to get voice command now to work on them through the mic but i can't for some reason. I also want them to work on my PC and have the widcomm stack, any ideas on that? If you have AIM, then i can talk there or msn or yahoo. If none, email's fine.

How I fixed the speakerphone on the Tilt

This relates to the problem of the speakerphone being virtually unusable on the ATT tilt. I was having the problem that seems to be very common with the speakerphone cutting in and out almost as if it were half duplex. The other party could only hear every other word and it was virtually unusable. Additionally, I could not get the speakerphone to work with Skype at all. All of my searches led to a dead end with nobody able to figure out how to fix this. There was one poster that said the problem was fixed by installing MS Voice Command, though no one else was able to repeat that.
Anyways, I decided to try MS Voice Command. I installed it and really did not like it. It was less accurate than Cyberon Voice speed dial. The digitized voice was very difficult to understand. I also had difficulty getting it to work with my BT headset. Other than that it was pretty nice not to have to work through voice tags. But I really did prefer CVSD so I went about uninstalling MSVC and resetting all the registry changes I had made. Unfortunately, this did not revive CVSD. I then found the cab to reinstall it. It still didn't work. I uninstalled and reinstalled CVSD. No go. I then found a patch cab to restore the registry settings. That sort of worked and I was able to use CVSD but it did not have the usual beep sound to let you know when to speak the command. Anyways, I did some further research and was directed to the Cyberon web site, where there was a patch to upgrade to the latest version. Finally got it all back to working status! That was two days ago.
Today, I was messing around with Skype and did a test call to the echo number and sure enough it heard me through the speakerphone! It repeated my test message very clearly. I then made a Skype call and the other party heard me loud and clear. This was a good sign... Lastly, I made a regular phone call and put the call on speaker. Unbelievably, the speakerphone was now fully operational! I could be heard loud and clear, no breaking up as before. The quality, I was told was not the greatest, sounding like I was on a speakerphone, but was coming in perfectly clear and no half duplex like behavior! Problem fixed!
So, although I can't tell you exactly what fixed the problem, this episode points to some sort of conflict with CVSD. Or to the older version of it. I would think that anyone with the speakerphone problem should first try upgrading to the latest version of CVSD with this patch located on the Cyberon site.
http://www.cyberon.com.tw/Technical3.php
If that doesn't fix it, then you might want to uninstall CVSD altogether, then reinstall and apply then apply the patch. As I said, I'm not sure exactly where the problem got corrected, but this is clearly what fixed it for me! It would be interesting to know if others have the same results...

Here is the cab to re-install CVSD (Voice_Tri.cab) and the registry patch (CVSD_Patch.cab) should you decide to do a complete uninstall/reinstall. The last update cab you can get directly from Cyberon site mentioned in post #1.
I hope this helps...

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Here is the cab to re-install CVSD (Voice_Tri.cab) and the registry patch (CVSD_Patch.cab) should you decide to do a complete uninstall/reinstall. The last update cab you can get directly from Cyberon site mentioned in post #1.
I hope this helps...
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Has someone else tried this with any success yet?

loudspeaker mic problem
I tried installing the applications from cyberone and then installing the patch.
SAME PROBLEM......
Help please........

Did you delete CVSD first then reinstall?? Or did you just install the new version over the old? As I said originally, I'm not sure what actually got fixed, only that it did get fixed after doing this... I was hoping that it could be replicated by someone else or that we could figure out just what it was that was causing the problem in the first place!

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Imperium said:
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huh, for what reason??????????

thesire said:
huh, for what reason??????????
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So that it doesnt get flooded and lost with the new threads being made every day. therefore i assume that someone will see it, and has the same problem and installs the above remedy and the reads Moddin's post: Has someone else tried this with any success yet?
then he remembers that it worked for him therefore posting back and confirming that it actually works.
hence why imperium wrote: kick.....bump.
then imperium sees there is a new comment and seeing that it worked for the other guy, he decides to take the plunge and maybe it works for him too.
he then goes and talks on the phone happily ever after.
hope this answered your question.

hi,
You can call me noob, how to delete CVSD?

I am pretty sure I installed it first from the cab and then it was in the uninstall list. I had removed/changed a bunch of settings in the registry when I tried to get Voice Command working so I did the install. When it didn't work I uninstalled then reinstalled and then did the patch which got me pretty close to being fully operational. The last thing I did was update directly from the Cyberon web site.

I'm using a TyTN II but I find that my unit has Cyberon Voice Commander instead of Cyberon Voice Speed Dial. Does this patch work with the CVC?

CVSD is only uninstalled if you have it installed to begin with. Go to start, settings, system tab, remove programs. It should be on that list. I'm going to try this right now. My girlfriend hangs up on me whenever I talk on speaker phone because she can't hear what I'm saying and gets frustrated. This could potentially ruin relationships and marriages!!

so this fix is only for TyTN II's which has CVSD installed? Does not apply to mine then. I thought all bundled software is standard. Anyways, do update us when you're done! Yesterday I tried disabling the Microphone AGC and it sort of improved the speaker phone a lot.

Hi:
The only link which will work for me on the Cyberon page is:
Cyberon Voice Speed Dial bluetooth headset connection problem
Q : The Bluetooth recognition performance is poor on HTC P3300. What can I do to solve this problem?
A : This problem could be fixed by the update Cyberon Voice Speed Dial Patch. Please following the instruction in the Readme file and install the Patch.
Download update patch <----------------------
Is this the correct patch that was mentioned?
If not, could someone please attach it here?
Also, I have Voice Speed Dial on my Tilt, but it is not listed on the remove programs list. Can I simply install the newer version without having first uninstalled the older version?
Thanks!

If you are trying to fix your speakerphone I recommend following the instructions in the first two posts. The patch is in post 2...

MS Voice Command on the Fuze

HI all,
I have setup MS Voice command on my Fuze to announce the name or phone number of the person calling on in coming calls. On my Tilt, it would announce the name either thru the speaker or my BT headset. With the Fuze, it will not. Is anyone else having this problem.
Also, with my Tilt, my ring tones would play thru my BT Headset and it will not on the Fuze. I don't know if this are related. I am using the BT headset on both.
Thanks
billf.

Yes, I'm having this same problem, and it is making me consider returning my Fuze and sticking with my tilt. Unless HTC or someone comes up with a fix within the next 2 weeks, my Fuze is going back. The only other bug I have noticed is that auto-correct does NOT work for the keyboard. It's supposed to automatically add in apostrophes for words, such as "can't, don't, won't" etc. Also, the word suggestion never shows up when I type, like it did on my Tilt. Of course it gives you suggestions with T9 turned on, but that's not the same as word suggestion. It would provide suggestions based on previous typing habits, and even predict entire phrases it thought I was going to type. Anyway....if someone figures out how to fix these problems, please let me know ASAP! Thanks.

I just noticed this tread. I too am having the same problem with it not announcing. My Tilt did it just fine and I have the Fuze VC set up exactly the same way as my Tilt, but all I get is my ringtone and no announcement.

Check your settings. I think you have to announce notifications using bluetooth hands free if available. and uncheck "only durning free time"
I think that may work.

starstreak said:
Check your settings. I think you have to announce notifications using bluetooth hands free if available. and uncheck "only durning free time"
I think that may work.
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That is the way I have it set up. No go. What is weird is that my ring tone plays over the bluetooth headset, but the computer generated voice doesn't speak.

it has to be a bad version or something.
also..last night i tried to install the cab i've used for over a year on top of the at&t version thinking it would overwrite the necessary files. no go. it corrupted the phone and had to hard reset to fix.

venelar said:
it has to be a bad version or something.
also..last night i tried to install the cab i've used for over a year on top of the at&t version thinking it would overwrite the necessary files. no go. it corrupted the phone and had to hard reset to fix.
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I'm glad that you decided to be a "guinea pig!" Because I was going to try this today! I was going to re-install the .CAB that came from my Tilt. But I'm glad to see if that doesn't work. In order to find a solution, do you think I should call AT&T or HTC? Which one would give me the solution? Because I only have 25 days left before my Fuze is non-returnable.

Hmm I never tried it yet on the fuze with my BT. I'll try it and report back.

Ok crap. Yeah. It doesnt "voice" announce. I never noticed it because I can dial from headset and even number dial from headset and it'll work. I can hear it repeating the number back.
BUT its not like its not working... If I remove the announce incommming calls, it makes my phone ring, but in my earpiece I hear a tone to tell me I have a phonecall. When I enable announce incomming calls, my phone vibrates and I hear my ringtone in my ear, and faintly I can hear that "tone" I heard before. So it sounds like the voice side of things isnt working.

Ok tried one last thing before my BT headset died. Doh!
When it died, my phone announced the caller. So it does work. Its just not working from the BT headset, you hear a bell sound or something.
Also, I just noticed my cars BT doesn't show battery of the phone. When my Tilt was on the car BT, it would show the battery remaining.

MS Voice Command
Check out the MS Voice Command guide on WinMo-Experts. There might be an answer to your problems in there.
http://www.winmo-experts.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2

Thanks for the link. I dont think it solved anything we're getting. Since Fuze has it built in, I dont think we can overwrite the files.

starstreak said:
Thanks for the link. I dont think it solved anything we're getting. Since Fuze has it built in, I dont think we can overwrite the files.
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Guess I didn't notice, but dose not work for me either. I do enjoy that on the Tilt, but I more like the Tilt for the message and email voice notification.
Beahcboyde/JON
PS. I'm simply not keeping the Fuze. I'll stick with my Tilt and TF2. love the whole setup and the speed of the touchflo usingHyperDragon Raphael

Signal is average compaired to my Tilt, when testing out T-Mobile connection. On 3G, I'm constantly around 2 bars(but it spurts to full so I know its working) So I think Hawaii is still bad with 3G is some areas.
I use VC ALOT. So I'm amazed I never noticed this issue where it wont say the caller in my ear.
I'm not sure if I'll keep the phone/drop ATT/both.

Please someone fix this! I dunno if it helps, but all you hear is a bell sound in the background of your normal phone ringtone. I know thats from the MSVC. The only thing not working is the announcement of whos calling. I think everything else is working. I can voice dial,recieve calender announcements and appoinments,etc from my BT headset.
Oh, not just BT headset. It won't announce it from the phone either.
I even did a "bloat free" installation.

the fix is on pdaphonehome.com i had the same problem with my sprint touch pro. weird since the diamond doesn't have this problem. you have to edit the registry to use the wav file instead of the default. only side effect with the fix is the phone will ring once and VC will announce the rest of the duration.
sid

Eww,junk fix. I'll check it out tho. While not a problem when I have my headset, it would be if i had my phone sitting on a table.

Reg hack
I copied this from pdaphonehome.com....kuddos to the person that figured this
out. Kind of a hacky way to get it to work though. Perhaps the brains around
here can figure it out.
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This isn't a complete solution - but it's an improvement.
With this fix - the ring tone will play for a second and then be cut off by the call announcement. The announcement will be at a lower volume. The announcement will repeat - the ring tone will not be played again.
NOTE THAT YOU SHOULD ATTEMPT THIS FIX ONLY IF YOU ARE COMFORTABLE IN UPDATING YOUR REGISTRY.
Change the following registry keys:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\TTSAnnounce\Category
change from VoiceCommand1 to Ring
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\TTSAnnounce\Script
change from as5p to v0p (that's v-zero-p) - for vibrate & ring, or p (ring only)
The above fix seems to get the announcements reliably, and doesn't break the set vibrate/set ringer features in the TF3D interface.
Hopefully we can find a better solution - that will restore the full functionality of Voice Command incoming call announcements - and not need this hack.
Another option is to manually overwrite the ringtone file name:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Sound
change to \Application Data\Volatile\TTSCallerID.wav
This fix replaces the ringtone with the call announcement - and at full volume.
BUT this solution has several problems, including breaking the set vibrate/set ringer feature in TF3D.

From reading that, if I DON'T use the TF3D ring/vibrate, but use the windows mobile one, I should be fine by doing the second hack listed above? I think I could live with that as I eventually will kill the TF3D just so I can get the calender of my Pocket Informant to show instead. Only thing I like was the Weather and clock of the TF3D anyways and ATT crippled the clock by removing the animation.

Doe anybody know how to do the 2nd option? Not sure if I'm supposed to delete the whole registry line or somehow add to that line?