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Upgrade then backup question..C'MON PEOPLE I NEED YOUR HELP!

Hello all,
I am a total novice at this stuff but request a little help. If you have 2 minutes spare please humour me and help out :wink:
I decided to upgrade my ROm etc for the first time and went to the o2 XDA site to do it.
It seemed to go fine. Then I restored my full backup from the xbackup thing, from my SD card. Is this correct? Or have I just undone my ROM upgrade? All my programs are back on but it looks the same.
If I cant restore after an upgrade, how do i get all my photos and other things back on? I can reinstall programs no prob, and contacts and calender will sync from my PC, but what about everything else?
Sorry if this question has already been asked but I tried the search facility and got nowhere.
Thanks in advance
HPJ
PS you never know, one day I might add something to this forum rather than just asking dumbass questions...

Well I got bored waiting so I bit the bullet and did the upgrade with no restore afterwards.
Seems all fine. Gotta reinstall everything I think so i'm slowly working my way through that. I'll keep posting....if anyones reading?! :!: :?:

HPJ
Glad you solved your problem. The reason that you never got an answer is that the topic of should I restore a backup after a new rom flash has been covered so many times before.
I will add a line in wiki BlueAngel For Beginners

Yeah I thought that, but the search facility seems to give so many inaccurate results that it just takes too long to go through all of them.
I'm just not technically minded, as I'm sure many others on here aren't, so more often than not we are stumped by the simplest of things.
Oh well...still far better off with the xda2s than anything else!

I understand your point on the search, it takes time to work it out and some things you just can't search for as they seem to be blocked.
The problem that we have is trying to work out the post that are based on the fact the the user has tried to find a solution and the ones that just have not.
Take the upgrade issue, we have wiki and it points you to a thread that reads Wiki, help me and yes I have read getting started. So Why do we have new threads that read upgrade failed?
On good days some of us point new users in the right direction and on bad days some of us don't. Would be nice if it was not allways the same ones.

That's the problem I had also. I'll search for stuff, but when I get results, a lot of them conflict. Not only that, but in the wiki there are things that branch off onto multiple levels. If someone ran a graphical link checker, I'm sure one would find a spider web.
I've found that I got more precise answers by posting and getting a response than going to the wiki. Although, I actually learned more by reading through the wiki....after I did what I needed to do first.
I use Linux and in the config file for Postfix, there are a million things that you can change. Looking through it I thought I had to change everything. Turns out, after I asked, I only had to make 2 changes to get it working.
I'm sure the mods and the expert posters do the best they can, but I'm thinking some spring cleaning needs to happen....from a newbie's point of view.
Tom

Tom
On the wiki side its an open site, so if you have a login you can change what it says, correct it or even add to it. Thats the whole Idea of it.
I know that its not perfect well I should anyway. However its better than nothing, it can be fixed by us all and not just a chossen few. Please remember that these people don't have the newbie frame of mind so they write what makes sence for them, leaving out information that should be understood by the reader if he is in that section. (Like the kitchen)-
So if you feel that it needs cleaning up then please do it, you have the rights, you have gained the knowlege so its all up to you or others.

Well here's a little update as to my experience upgrading the ROM and all the other bits.
It sucks! My xda2s was damn perfect before I upgraded. Since upgrading I have had to soft reset about 5 times a day, just because it decides to freeze on me.
Then, when you take it out of its cradle, it freezes...EVERY TIME!!! So whenever it comes out its cradle i have to soft reset!!!
Shurely shome mishtake??!??!!
And surely it's been fixed with something by someone on here that has 'the knowledge' (for I definitely do not, in case you hadn't noticed!).
And the benefits?? Er.......well the phone screen looks a little different...ummm.....that's it. I think. Oh yes, did I mention it freezes whenever it bloody well feels like it??!?!
Here's what the figures are now....for those of you that know what they mean...
ROM version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/13/04
Radio version: 1.06.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtROM version: 1.31.139 WWE
Annoyance setting: Maximum
Timescale to be thrown through the nearest window: Imminent
HPJ

Have you got the O2 'today' screen still running (with O2 button top of screen)? If so that's the biggest offender of lockups in my opinion!
I followed instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18350&highlight=
and since then its only locked once in about about a month...before that soft resent 3 to 4 times per day!

sounds good I'll give it a go now.....will post my results soon!!

My word I think it's worked!
See I knew it would be something simple....just took someone 2 minutes to point me in the right direction :roll:
Cheers vince
I'll crawl back into my newbie hole now until the next problem.....!!!
HPJ

i was in the same situation...only having had my XDA IIs for a month or so...was extremely hacked off that it was so unreliable! BTW did you have the connections.exe or connections.lnk? There seems to be some variation between machines...though moving out either one seems to stop the dreaded O2 software loading up!
by the way, are you using wifi connections? My XDA IIs (and others from searching on the net) seem to have a lot of problems connecting (it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....however I found something that said try re-entering WEP keys for known connections....and from my experience this seems to work for me. My Dell Axim organiser never had this problem...so possibly another 'feature' of the XDA IIs !!!

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(it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....quote]
For me it happends when your ip and subnet mask (in connection card settings) dont match with the wifi net you are connecting to... the pda found and connect but can not go online because is not a part of the right network (i.e. 192.168.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 usually..or subnet 255.255.255.0 and 255.0.0.0) byez!
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I DID IT!!

Woo-hoo!
I have finished the multiple hour process of doing the ROM and extended ROM upgrade!!! I am so proud of myself and had no one else to tell who would understand what the heck I meant - so I'm posting it here for my own personal pat on the back!!
Although I do think there is a need for re-writes for the BA incompetent because I accomplished this using wiki, here, and the BA standardization project yet still came across a few glitches....don't know how i figured them out but I guess after spending four days reading message boards and taking notes something must have stuck up there!! Also, it seems as if I had to piece meal the extended ROM update - which makes me hope I did it right but one of the places I downloaded it from was missing all the nbf files??
BUT....who cares now!!! I'm just excited I finally got it done. Now I can relax and have a drink or few and tomorrow start looking into the current radio update and the BT updates....but quick question....not that I am being lazy - but are they really necessary if I am not using a BT headset, and rarely use BT for anything else? After all the problems people had I just got a wired headset and can't even think about WM5.0 till they fix the sound issues for the SX66 - variable ringtones is an absolute must! Also, I rarely (like once a month) use the internet on this device so do I need the radio upgrade?
Another issue - can anyone explain why after doing hard resets active sync makes you set up a new paternership? I don't mind since it still ends up giving me all my Outlook info - but just was wondering why?
Well....off to do hubby's - hopefully his will take less time!! :roll:
THANKS to all who have contributed to XDA forums, wiki, and the BA standardization project - I couldn't have done it without your info, insight and problems you experienced!!! :lol:

not 100% sure, but I think the HR makes the thing reset everything... and... well..
I always change the name of my device...
And it tries to call itself PockePC again...
And the computer doesn't like that.
But if I change the name back to whatever it was and connect to the computer it tells me the name is in use. And that's annoying...
Before you slap that sucker back in the cradle, go to AS, FILE, Delete Partnership (you'll have about 100 from the way I read your post ) And... Well... Re-set it up using whatever name you wanted to use that it wouldn't let you.
And... if you're already doing this and are just wondering why it's necessary, look at the name of the software manufacturer and I'm certain you'll see the reason for your dificulty

XDAIIi newbee !

Hello all, 1st post here. I will be aquirring a XDAIIi in a week or two as a relative is replacing his firms pda`s and im getting one of the old units.
I know they were on O2 and I have a T-mobile sim so Id like to unlock it.
I have found the unlock info on this forum and will give that a go.
My question is, what should I check for to make sure it will be running as best it can be and how can I find out what s/ware should be loaded onto it and is there a way of getting a master copy of the original build or will this all be on the software disks that came with it ?
also is there any particular sat nav s/ware that works better than most on the XDAIIi?
I understand the xdaIIi is called something else in places, what is that name ?
sorry there such open questions nut couldnt think how to phrase them in order to do a search.
many thanks in advance, Lee.

Moving to alpine.

podhead said:
Hello all, 1st post here. I will be aquirring a XDAIIi in a week or two as a relative is replacing his firms pda`s and im getting one of the old units.
I know they were on O2 and I have a T-mobile sim so Id like to unlock it.
I have found the unlock info on this forum and will give that a go.
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I have sucessfully unlocked three of my firm's old Alpine's, aka XDA IIi, using the file in this post, All in one SIM unlock tool, personally i found the earlier version more successful, but you may be OK with the newer version. The biggest thing i would say is to have patience, when you run it, it will seem to finish and nothing has happened. Wait until you receive a message saying it has been unlocked, and then soft reset.
Only other advice i can give is to do a hard reset to get it back to factory settings and then when you get a popup saying "Applying customisations in 3 seconds", or something similar, soft reset. This will prevent the O2 stuff being installed, leaving you with more RAM to play with.

Thanks Ive sucsefully unlocked it for t-mobile, fantastic. just need to find out what else I can do to improve this pda.

Don't try to improve it
as is it is one of the best ever made OK yes it restricted because of only running 2003SE but it runs it dam fast. I have a friend that has a Orbit (the latest one by O2 thats the equivilent of the XDA IIi and mine is as fast as his and he ditched the crappy sat nav software that came with it to go back to TT6, ref sat nav software it runs TT 6 fine I have it on mine and have no problems whatso ever.

Stuck after ROM flash:error 206

I decided to reflash my wizard after it continually getting slower and slower after a year. I haven't done it in awhile. It is already unlocked. I flashed the 1.05 rom and it was working. I was going to go up in steps ending with the touch rom. I flashed the wrong rom evidently and now am downgraded to 1.01 on spl/ipl and os 2.26.10.2. The wizard won't activate Activesync and I can't get any communication. I tried rebooting the pc and the wizard multiple times. Still nothing. Need something quick to fix this. Everytime I tried to launch a rom flash I get an error 206.

digitalmayhem said:
I decided to reflash my wizard after it continually getting slower and slower after a year. I haven't done it in awhile. It is already unlocked. I flashed the 1.05 rom and it was working. I was going to go up in steps ending with the touch rom. I flashed the wrong rom evidently and now am downgraded to 1.01 on spl/ipl and os 2.26.10.2. The wizard won't activate Activesync and I can't get any communication. I tried rebooting the pc and the wizard multiple times. Still nothing. Need something quick to fix this. Everytime I tried to launch a rom flash I get an error 206.
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If it was already CID unlocked,there was no need to downgrade again 1.05,once CID unlocked will remain unlocked forever,unless you intentionally don't flash back the locking code back on to it.
Now try to get into Bootloaders (multicolor screen) hook up the phone with pc via usb cable and check small usb appear at the bottom of the bootloaders,if it appears then download the official stock rom and flash to recover back to the default status,then download the WST 4.2.2 tool and run the 'CID Action' button to verify the CID lock/unlock status of the phone.if its still CID unlocked then upgrade to any wm6 rom of your choice,otherwise perform the unlocking method again.If the usb doesn't appear,then you have a connectivity problem,check the usb cable or the mini usb port of the phone is faulty.Assuming you are doing on winXP.

"and check small usb appear at the bottom of the bootloaders..."
I don't understand what your talking about when you say bootloader. The bootloader is the ROM installation program is it not. How do you check an icon in that? If you mean system trays on the PC or PDA, no USB icon shows. I got no radio or sync services working. The OS is corrupted and operates extremely slow. I can't get any kind of communication between the PDA and PC. Not even through windows explorer (running XP). It's not the cable, I just used it to downgrade to 1.05 and it was working fine. It wasn't until I tried to upgrade to back up, and selected the wrong ROM off my USB storage, that it flashed the wrong ROM and caused all this. Mostly because I hate trying to remember what the longs string of digits mean on each ROM. Especially after I haven't looked at all the files and haven't done a flash in a year.
So no communication. That's the issue.

So does anyone else have any info? As I stated, I can't get any communication between the MDA and the PC. So I don't know how I can flash a stable ROM.

I repeat again,Get the phone in Bootloaders mode (multicolor screen) by pressing and keep holding down the camera button and at the same time either 'Soft Reset' or 'Power On' the phone,but keep holding down the camera button,till phone boots up in Bootloaders mode(multicolor screen),hook up the phone with pc via usb cable and check if small usb appears "At the bottom of the Bootloaders Screen" and not in the system tray of the pc. If it appears then follow the advise I gave you in my above post,but if doesn't appear then you have a connectivity problem.

digitalmayhem said:
"and check small usb appear at the bottom of the bootloaders..."
I don't understand what your talking about when you say bootloader.
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The Wiki as all the (basic) info to get you started.

It doesn't work
I can get into Bootloaders mode with usb at the bottom. BUT, I can't get any connection to ActiveSync, any of the ROM update utilities and no radio network connections. That was the specific thing I'm telling you. If the Desktop and the PDA won't talk to each other, what am I gonna do? It's not the cable either. The Wizard Tool will not pick it up either when I used it to try to get device info. If your going suggest any kind of ROM or software off the forum, please specify exact version and title so I don't have to go through 100+ pages doing a search to find a specific piece of software off a vague title such as "stock ROM". You may know what it means because your always on the forum. When someone hasn't been back here in awhile they aren't going to remember some arbitrary string of numbers and letters indicating a certain ROM that they haven't used for a year. Too many of you "regulars" get all pissy about things when someone asks a question. If someone keeps asking the same questions, it's because the forum is NOT laid out in an easily searchable fashion unless you have specific search criteria for things such as CUSTOM_RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_10111210_WWE instead of "stock ROM".

Have you read the Wiki?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
Or other posts?
You'd know by now that in bootloader mode ActiveSync or any other tool (that uses ActiveSync) can't communicate with the phone but that it's possible to upgrade a ROM using the official upgrade utilities.
Have you tried making a search and getting hundreds of undesired and repeated posts which makes you lose days searching for a specific thing?
If you'd been here as long as many of us you'd also be tired of people asking same questions. I was once a fresh member and i would always 'waste' my time than others'.
Also the forum search feature has been enhanced by using Google's search engine instead of internal.

There is simply no way I can express my deep and sincere gratitude for the information available in this forum. Let me explain and I think you may understand why.
Several days ago my wife and I received a couple of HTC 8125's from Ebay. Being a tinkerer I wanted to see what I could do so I upgraded mine to Mobile 6 with Touch-Flo.
The wife was skeptical and waited to see how it worked out. Of course she eventually decided to go for the Bling and handed me hers to upgrade as well.
As soon as the upgrade started on hers the pda went bootscreen and locked up. Sooooo I'm sweating bullets and searching the forums as fast as I can go before she finds out. Then I find this thread and the last post... Don't need Activesync to update as long as the device pops up a little usb on the screen when you plug up... I flashed the 8125 upgrade and *Bang*! Back in business. Continued the upgrade and all is well. The wife is now walking around with her "Bling" and happy and I am off the hook!
Thanks for the GREAT FORUM!

Rowdyone said:
There is simply no way I can express my deep and sincere gratitude for the information available in this forum. Let me explain and I think you may understand why.
Several days ago my wife and I received a couple of HTC 8125's from Ebay. Being a tinkerer I wanted to see what I could do so I upgraded mine to Mobile 6 with Touch-Flo.
The wife was skeptical and waited to see how it worked out. Of course she eventually decided to go for the Bling and handed me hers to upgrade as well.
As soon as the upgrade started on hers the pda went bootscreen and locked up. Sooooo I'm sweating bullets and searching the forums as fast as I can go before she finds out. Then I find this thread and the last post... Don't need Activesync to update as long as the device pops up a little usb on the screen when you plug up... I flashed the 8125 upgrade and *Bang*! Back in business. Continued the upgrade and all is well. The wife is now walking around with her "Bling" and happy and I am off the hook!
Thanks for the GREAT FORUM!
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Thankz !
We all highly appreciate it,glad you got it working .Thats what this Forum is sooo famous for "Help & Care"

Wich ANTI THEFT program is better?

hi guys, I have my precious HTC touch diamond for a week now, and because of its beautifull shine, everyone wants to have one.
That's why i did some searching on the web about anti theft programs, and I found these 3
Ultimate Theft Alert v3
W.I.M.P.
Sprite Terminator
They all look pretty good, but before buying anything (or downloading ) I want to know wich one is best to pick, could you guys help me with that? also keep on mind that the program has to work on a VGA screen
Thanks, Markos Wahid

Tried three of them also and decided to (actually buy) sprite terminator with a coupon disc 50% (forgot where i got it thou), reason to buy:
- support
- price (very cheap!!!)
- easy to use

a program called mobile justice thats free and does the job, if you burn it in to a ROM before you flash the ROM to your device it will resist hardresets as well unlike most programs out there.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjustice/

not to mention a steel chain with a steel lock, one end at yr diamond, second one around yr neck
jokes aside, ultimate theft alert is the most popular.
i am sorry to see that the diamond in his actual configuration doesn't support the very slim chance that somebody will find it and be willing to return it, i am talking about OWNER INFORMATION!! gone in the invisible "today" screen

I need some advice to burn Ultimate theft alert to a ROM on diamond.
Is this possible?

^probably... check the developer forum..theyd be better at answering that...
i think the guy who makes ultimate theft also posts here...It seems the nicest.. the other alternative is sprite...the middle one doesnt look nice. i dont really know since i never had a wm device. im just saying from what ive read...

I tried to install Theft Alert but the instalation crashes...
Has anyone the same issue?

KukurikU said:
i am sorry to see that the diamond in his actual configuration doesn't support the very slim chance that somebody will find it and be willing to return it, i am talking about OWNER INFORMATION!! gone in the invisible "today" screen
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Settings --> Owner information --> Options --> "When the device is turned on, display: Identification Information"

Sprite terminator requires some additional editing. It says my GPS location is in China somewhere.
Ultimate Theft seems to work alright, but I havent tested it yet with the sims, which I'll do in a few minutes.
I like the ULT 3.5 better.

what i'll like to know is how to burn. the developer section have no guide on actual burning and takes for granted that we're rom cookers so i for one, understand nothing T.T

Baronic said:
what i'll like to know is how to burn. the developer section have no guide on actual burning and takes for granted that we're rom cookers so i for one, understand nothing T.T
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I agree. All these softwares are useless as most people would hard reset the device.... As far as cooking goes, I really want to get into doing this - I just need the 'beginner' tutorial, before the 'hardcore' tutorial..

Even the SPL must be protected against reflashing of the phone then. Is that possible?
So locking the SPL so no new SPL can be flashed either, and new ROM flashing is impossible then.
There are too many smart people who just fix that 'hot' phone with UTA or any program to original. And the thing you want is you phone back.

Riel said:
Even the SPL must be protected against reflashing of the phone then. Is that possible?
So locking the SPL so no new SPL can be flashed either, and new ROM flashing is impossible then.
There are too many smart people who just fix that 'hot' phone with UTA or any program to original. And the thing you want is you phone back.
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Well I do know that HardSPL has overwrite protection and you cannot flash a new SPL after you've installed it. Although there will be a 'downgrade' package soon so you can get back to stock SPL.

I don't understand why there isn't such a flash and/or hard reset protection...it's just very frustrating when you lose the device(like I did once) knowing the next 'owner' could simply hard reset (or flash a new ROM) to use it as his own device. I know, cooking some settings into a ROM solves a little piece, but more and more people are aware of XDA-dev and know about flashing. So you could cook your anti-theft into your ROM, but agianst flashing there is nothing u can do

Well, I thought, it should be possible to lock SPL flashing, by encrypting the bootloader by (my own) password?
On the moment one makes flashing without my password impossible, a antitheft program can be installed in the ROM and running always, even with hard-reset.
One should vind an easy way of providing MY sim card data into that rom prior to flashing.

Hi Folks,
But back to the topic, is there any anti-theft programs that really works in the first place for Diamond? I had tried Star Enforcer (it can't get the current IMSI number), Mobile Justice (it can't send out SMS) and RemoteTracker (can't run... I need to research more on this..).
Cheers.

mobile justice, did you install the certificate? most problems are as a result of that not being done, give me a PM if you want a hand and ill talk you through it, it does work well, but as already been mentioned all it takes for any software is a full flash, if you install many of the apps to the ROM before flashing it you can at least survive a hard reset.

Thanks Dazza,
I had missed installing the certificate.
But now, after some testing, I found out that it was only able to send out SMS unless I select "Disp.MsgBox".
Is this something expected? May be MJ needs to be re-rewritten or recompiled for WM6.1?
I'm aware of the hard reset issue. Am planning for myself to learn how to cook up a ROM, with my details in, to prevent this.
Cheers.

Tried UTA 3.5. and WIMP
Both can send out Text messages to designated telephone no.
But i thought UTA 3.5 could monitor the sms and phone calls going in or out of the phone. but it didnt seem to work. it crashed. and when you inserted a new sim it kept on asking whether i wanted to run the .exe file not very good.
Am testing out WIMP at the moment and seems to be ok.
but not alot of functionality if compared with UTA that is if UTA worked.
That would be a very good idea if you can input it into the ROM. but will you not have to mess with the registry to 'register' the product and keep your data.?

Well,
When I did a hard-reset last week, I observed that the device begins installing some software onto itself, just like it did when I first powered it up. May be we can cook up something into a cook ROM to do something identical? E.g. the settings required for MJ?
But then, I'm a noob at this stage (with a full time job and family). So, I'll have a very long way to go.
Cheers.