Hi everybody,
I'm really struggling with the BBC for the Tilt. I would MUCH rather use ActiveSync, but it's against company policy so I'm SOL on that. I'm forced to either buy a Blackberry and give up my Tilt or install BBC. I chose the later.
I've been having problems with it ever since and I've had trouble finding resources to help out (mainly because most people don't use BBC on Tilt).
Here are the problems:
1. BBC often will randomly say "suspended by user" (even though I haven't), which prevents me from getting new messages, and unless I'm always looking to see if the service is running, I'll never know if I'm not getting email or if it suspended itself
2. BBC will just as often randomly say, "blocked - radio in use".
3. I can't get any integration going with the calendar at all. And when I receive calendar/meeting requests, it comes to the Tilt as email messages, not as meeting requests, so I can't accept them and add it to my calendar
Now, the limited amount of information I was able to find suggests that problem #2 may have something to do with interference with ActiveSync. I've tried the technique where I add a fake server source then make the schedule manual, but ActiveSync still won't go away permanently. I use it to access my Tilt files through Windows, so I can't uninstall it altogether. Also, when I tried to uninstall it before, it deleted all of my non-SIM contacts from the Tilt along with it, because all of my contacts were imported from Outlook.
Anybody have any ideas or solutions?
I think these are common issues, especially if you are using the Tilt on AT&T.
1) I'll go days without losing connection to blackberry services then it seems like it will lose it every night for 2 or 3 days. It may be related to activesync or it may be related to network issues. I always check the blackberry icon. If there's a "!" there, I know I need to reconnect.
2) At least with AT&T, you can only have one active data connection. Either it's the blackberry service or it's something else. The something else is active and keeping the blackberry service from connecting.
3) Check your pim options screen and make sure the calendar box is checked. If I remember correctly, when I first installed it was not checked by default. Contacts, tasks and notes are also configured in this screen.
You may have a point about activesync. I always kill it when I can but it auto starts. If I understand correctly, it is checking or setting the network time?
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I think these are common issues, especially if you are using the Tilt on AT&T.
1) I'll go days without losing connection to blackberry services then it seems like it will lose it every night for 2 or 3 days. It may be related to activesync or it may be related to network issues. I always check the blackberry icon. If there's a "!" there, I know I need to reconnect.
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Yeah, that's what I usually have to do, but I hate that I have to do it - it defeats the purpose of push email if you have to always check to see if it's still pushing, lol.
People have recommended uninstalling ActiveSync when using BBC, but I can't possibly see how that's practical because I use ActiveSync to maintain my contacts and to add music and files to my Tilt. Is there some other way of doing this without using ActiveSync?
2) At least with AT&T, you can only have one active data connection. Either it's the blackberry service or it's something else. The something else is active and keeping the blackberry service from connecting.
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That's what I've read. But there have been times when I've done a Stop All on all services, and I still got a radio in use message. Strangely, there have been times when both ActiveSync and IE were running and I was able to get BBC running no problem. The inconsistency is maddening because it becomes impossible to isolate and cause and solve it.
3) Check your pim options screen and make sure the calendar box is checked. If I remember correctly, when I first installed it was not checked by default. Contacts, tasks and notes are also configured in this screen.
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Whatever is being maintained by ActiveSync (contacts) is greyed out on my Tilt, but everything else (calendar, notes and tasks) is checked, so I should be OK. But calendard items are still arriving in my inbox as regular email.
You may have a point about activesync. I always kill it when I can but it auto starts. If I understand correctly, it is checking or setting the network time?
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Interesting. I thought I was doing something wrong since people swear by that technique as a way to get ActiveSync to go away permanently. But it always comes back for me.
It says "radio in use" when Media.Net is active possibly through a IE or weather type program.
Some of the NEWER ROMS allow dual connections for BBConnect & Media.net. I saw a thread yesterday that showed the precise registry entry to make to allow this without burning a new ROM.
What thread was this? And when you say "newer ROMS" are you referring to official ROMs like the one on the HTC website or the XDA ROMs?
Demigawd,
Make sure the wireless calendar service (cical) is running properly. What version of bbc are you running? I'm running 4.0.0.97. It's behavior is a bit different than previous versions. It seems to block other data connections instead of bb getting blocked.
The only other suggestion I have is to remove and reinstall bbc. I would also have bes sync everything including contacts until you are sure calendaring is running correctly. If it's still not working correctly, maybe check your bes for a non-standard it policy.
I think the registry entry for multiple data apns is volatile and gets overwritten after every soft reset. A custom rom is probably the only way around that.
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Hi everyone
Have been using the Diamond for a few days now and have noticed a few quirks here and there. Mostly are software issues that I think will be ironed out in later releases of the ROM but for now there are a few issues that I was wondering if anyone else was having.
I have my own Exchange server running and have Direct Push/3G on constantly. The only issue is that sometimes i get the mail come through via Direct Push while sometimes it doesnt. In those situations I have to push "sync" in active sync for it to grab the new mails.
My settings are on "as item arrives" for both peak and offpeak and the status in active sync is shown as connected. This worked perfectly on my Trinity and Direct Push has never missed a beat once.
Anyone else experiencing similar issues?
The only time I ever experienced this is when O2 had a data outage in the UK yesterday. Other than that it has worked flawlessly.
Have my own exchange aswell, and haven't any problems so far !
Have you tried checking the peak times in the options for activesync?
not Diamond-related at all (since I don't have one yet) - but are you perhaps roaming networks sometimes?
had a customer with this issue and there is an extra option 'sync when roaming' (at least in WM5) - syncing manually worked in other networks without option enabled
HKC\Software\HTC\Manila:
PushMailOn : default value is "0" ( OFF)
PLease chech this value in your registry. I wonder if this settings might affect push mail avaiability for you.
I would set to "1" and soft reset to confirm.
I have the problem also! I had no problems with a TyTN II being used on the same Exchange server, but the diamond has a mind of it's own.
The peak time is on the default 8am to 8pm and reverse for off peak. But I dont think this affects it since I have it on "as item arrives" for both.
I dont have "use above settings when roaming" ticked since I'm in a very well covered 3G zone. The "H" icon is constantly on where I am.
I havent tried the reg edit yet SecureGSM, thanx for the tip. I will try to isolate the problem and do that for a last resort.
Is your problem consistent or inconsistent vas79?
I have noticed something but not sure if my paranoia or what but I have a feeling the time size affects it. If you have it large at the default size the mail comes in fine. But when you minimise the time to see more calendar items, the mail does not direct push. I'm still testing this so i'll post result after a few days of use in both.
Well it consistently doesn't work!
I very rarely hear the email alert when the phone is in standby. When I turn the phone on a unlock no email then within 10 seconds email will come in and get the little icon by the Mail saying how many new emails.
Alternatively I'd go to Activesync and it would say last sync'd at XXX rather than connected. I then select Sync which it does then it stays connected until next time.
If I go to the comm manger it says Direct Push is on and Data Connection on.
I can live with it, because i assume it's a bug and it will get fixed!..
My major gripe is it doesn't ring straight away, takes 3/4 rings to get going and ring. I have missed so many calls because of this!
i have been using Diamond with Exchange Server 2007 pushmail via GPRS since 1st June. There is no problem so far.
I am using BlackBerry at the same time. Basically pushmail arrives later than blackberry for 1.5 secs, I am sure all mails can be arrived to my Diamond in these 2 weeks.
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Well it consistently doesn't work!
I very rarely hear the email alert when the phone is in standby. When I turn the phone on a unlock no email then within 10 seconds email will come in and get the little icon by the Mail saying how many new emails.
Alternatively I'd go to Activesync and it would say last sync'd at XXX rather than connected. I then select Sync which it does then it stays connected until next time.
If I go to the comm manger it says Direct Push is on and Data Connection on.
I can live with it, because i assume it's a bug and it will get fixed!..
My major gripe is it doesn't ring straight away, takes 3/4 rings to get going and ring. I have missed so many calls because of this!
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hmmm ok, seems like you have a different problem to me. Mine actually says "connected" but mail just doesnt get pushed out or rather Diamond doesnt get the message. Have you made sure that you have "as item arrives" in the schedule (in activesync) for both peak and off peak?
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hmmm ok, seems like you have a different problem to me. Mine actually says "connected" but mail just doesnt get pushed out or rather Diamond doesnt get the message. Have you made sure that you have "as item arrives" in the schedule (in activesync) for both peak and off peak?
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Yep, everything says "as item arrives" also tried ticking even when roaming, when i'm not!!
Actually today it has said connected everytime I've checked!
Only thing I changed yesterday was one of the registry tweaks to improve touchflo 3d performance.
When the UK rom drops and we can load it I will see then!
UK Rom here and seeing exactly the same issues!
Mine has been working fine too...
Hi there,
I'm using my own 6.5 (custom) Rom (Build 23004). I use an hosted exchange
server for Direct Push. Syncing is working well without any errors. But sometimes
it just looses the connection and Active Sync tells me: "Last synchronized: ...".
Then i hit Synchronize and it stays connected for some time again.
This happens to me since a long time, I can't remember if this happened to me
using 6.1 Builds. But as far as I know I didn't get this issue using the stock Rom.
This issue is really annoying as WiMo doesn't even notify me about loosing the
connection, and then even "check email every X minutes works better.
Does anyone know a solution? I don't like to get back the "ugly" stock Rom.
P.S: I read some guys using a Tilt had this issue as well, if not using the AT&T
stock Rom, but the HTC one.
Edit: In the Attachment is the Active Sync log. Disconnect was at 10:35. Don't know if this helps.
Diewi said:
Hi there,
I'm using my own 6.5 (custom) Rom (Build 23004). I use an hosted exchange
server for Direct Push. Syncing is working well without any errors. But sometimes
it just looses the connection and Active Sync tells me: "Last synchronized: ...".
Then i hit Synchronize and it stays connected for some time again.
This happens to me since a long time, I can't remember if this happened to me
using 6.1 Builds. But as far as I know I didn't get this issue using the stock Rom.
This issue is really annoying as WiMo doesn't even notify me about loosing the
connection, and then even "check email every X minutes works better.
Does anyone know a solution? I don't like to get back the "ugly" stock Rom.
P.S: I read some guys using a Tilt had this issue as well, if not using the AT&T
stock Rom, but the HTC one.
Edit: In the Attachment is the Active Sync log. Disconnect was at 10:35. Don't know if this helps.
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For some time now I use 6.5 ROMs together with hosted Exchange and the problem you discribe hasn't occured to me once (been using 6.5 builds for about 3 months now).
Have you contacted your hosting provider? Maybe it's a setting in Exchange that causes the disconnect.
Not yet, I didn't think it was related to them. I'll write them a mail tomorrow, too late right now. A good input.
At least I know right now the problem isn't related to wm6.5 custom Roms.
Thanks for your answer.
Alright, I'm getting closer now.
Just taping "Synchronize" doesn't reestablish the connection. The last time the
error was probably related to bad signal (more later).
Yesterday evening the connection was lost again. It happened at 20:40. I
noticed it at about eleven o'clock and see there was no data connection. I
told active sync to synchronize, but it took twice until it finally established a
data connection. Syncing didn't work either. So I tried to access the web using
Opera, but no page was loaded, it just showed me the white screen, no error
message.
So, I turned the Phone on and off in Comm Manger, then it was working again.
I checked the log and it gave this line:
#2009-07-18 21:02:26.0000 AutdPing Ping received. HR = 85020003
At 21:02, there was the first sync attemp after the sync at 20:40.
The error code 85020003 tells me there is something wrong with the data
connection (conn mgr).
In Active Sync I get the error code 0x80072efd which is also related to
network problems.
So the problem is more complex I originally thought.
I'm really confused right now. Please, somebody got an advice?
Googled a bit trying to figure out what the error code means, some state you need to uncheck the proxyserver checkbox in your advanced connection settings. Others say uncheck the use SSL connection in your activesync settings. But none seem to be a conclusive solutions for everyone, so you can a least try.
Will try to find more....
gl
Thanks for your commitment Lokatho.
I've been searching a lot, but didn't find anything that seems to be related to my problem.
I think this behaviour isn't related to Active Sync actually. It rather seems to be a
problem with the connection. All articles I found only describe errors coming from Active
Sync itself.
The weired thing is that toggling the Data Connection on/off doesn't help. My device
won't connect to the Internet any more (using 3G/GPRS). Only disabling and reenabling
the phone makes it work again. The error only appears after hours of usage up to a day
or more.
Seems like I need to return to stock rom for further investigation soon.
PS: Didn't contact my hosting provider as I'm moving to a better (cheaper, more storage, exchange 2007 instead of 2003) one right now, let's see.
Alright, I think I found the solution. I disabled HSDPA/HSUPA as my phone
only wanted to connect to my carrier data connection if this option was unused.
Now I turned it on again, my data connection was still working, and the issue
seems to be gone! Now I have to wait further (working for 2 days now). I'm
really happy now it's gone. Remember this if your running into strange
problems with your data connection
Does anyone know exactly what is causing this problem because it continues to happen across different ROMs and different Radios. Is there some fundamental reason why the X1 can't maintain a connection with IM clients?
I'm on T-mobile in the UK and running the valkyrie_V3 WWE ROM. Windows live messenger will disconnect if i put the phone into standby for as little as a minute and sometimes even when I'm in the middle of messaging. I keep getting messages saying "wireless connection not available trying to reconnect" or something similar.
I've tried IM+ and while that doesn't give disconnection messages it's doing the same thing as i have tested it using different accounts.
I can't get ebuddy working on this ROM because it won't let me enter the password for some odd reason but that has had the same problem with other ROMS in the past.
Has anyone found a solution to this or is it something to do with T-mobile settings?
I should point out that throughout all this i maintain a good signal of at least 2 bars and according to the phone the data connection hasn't dropped.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks.
i used to use AOL's own mobile-based IM/chat client for AIM, and it always kept me connected without problems no matter what. only problem was it was INSANELY slow.
i've switched to slick, which i'm not crazy about, and i'm having the same problems as you. i'll randomly get disconnected with the phone sitting with full HSDPA reception, not going into sleep or standby....i thought it was just slick's crappy programming
Which network are you on?
Also are you 100% sure AOL used to stay connected because i thought the same thing about IM+ but a lot of my messages weren't getting returned. I signed into 2 different accounts, one on PC one on phone to test and it turned out the same thing was happening just not as obviously.
This is really frustrating, my old K800i used to stay connected to windows live for days at a time, my friends blackberry also has no trouble staying connected.
i too have the same problem, we need the xda gurus to fix this, hopefully they would be able to do so in the near future
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Which network are you on?
Also are you 100% sure AOL used to stay connected because i thought the same thing about IM+ but a lot of my messages weren't getting returned. I signed into 2 different accounts, one on PC one on phone to test and it turned out the same thing was happening just not as obviously.
This is really frustrating, my old K800i used to stay connected to windows live for days at a time, my friends blackberry also has no trouble staying connected.
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pretty sure it was connected constantly. i had some pretty lengthy text sessions and i never got any error messages (IM not received, user not on, signed off, etc). i mean, i can never be 100% sure, but pretty sure. i only used it fo ra couple weeks before getting rid of it, it was creeping death slow for some reason
I'm too really desperate for a solution to this problem. My device is a HTC Touch Pro2 running Windows Mobile 6.5.
The case is that I will launch a new business site in just a few weeks whos customers are for the biggest part young intellectuals more often than seldomly really integrated with the modern IT-development. Hence I've always wanted to add the Windows Live messenger plugin to the site so that our customers can have a live chat completly anonymously without having their IP traced and logged which is the case for the markets paid services. Furthermore, the msn live plugin is completly ad free and doesn't cost a penny. The paid services out there that other corporations use for their live chat often comes with an URL to the host even though the customer are paying for their live chat module. The most important part though, is that I can bring with me Windows Live Messenger wherever I go which for the most part is a complex and not even that usual solution in the paid service segment. I think you can understand my problem now =) I'm just desperate to have my live messenger in the phone ALWAYS and ALWAYS stay connected.
For an example of the plugin I'm refering too have a look at my personal website:
martinandersson.com
A little more specific information describing what really happens with my device:
Windows Live version: 10.7.0061.0500.2000. Language: Swedish (Also the language of my OS).
I am running the client non-exclusivly. It always stays in the taskbar and never quit on me unlike what happens to programs that stay open running in the background for a longer period of time. In that way, it works great.
The main Windows Live window's (which are displayed and runned as a seperate program) options/settings are set to sync my e-mail although the frequency are set to "manual" and the other options below this drop box are for some reason greyed out. I guess this has to be interpreted as if live doesn't sync my mail at all, which I like being that I do not have an hotmail account or need this feature in any way.
The status of my phone always always show two small 3G icons (one just '3G' and one '3G' above a meter) and if I click in this field I see a ticking clock which shows that it is indeed connected to internet ever since my phone's last reboot. This has never been in any other way. Still, I did download the DiamondTweak and enabled the "internet always on" feature, but again, I do not think that really was the issue and from what I can tell, the DiamondTweak just hasn't made any difference at all.
One detail of great importance is this; Whenever I browse the internet, update my rss feeds or switch to the messenger contact list window through the taskbar, the 3G symbols changes to display an H. That tells me that this "H" must show for the phone to have a "real" internet connection? Could this be the trick, one has to find a fix to always have the H show? If that would be the case, I just can't understand why the phone says it is indeed connected to the internet when there's just a 3G-symbol in the status. Anyways..
Even though the messenger dies completly and just as what this threads owner wrote, shows a "wireless connection lost" message when I swich to its contact list window, it sometimes live for quite a while. The thing is that it just doesn't get the message instantly. The phone can be in standby mode (really haven't figured that thing out, everybody keeps saying "standby" mode but for what I can tell all that happens is that the display goes of) for sure, and then I write myself a message through the live chat plugin on my site but it takes about 6 to 10 minutes for the phone to give a sound and notice me of this message. And again, for the most part the live messenger doesn't stay alive for that long, the sites plugin goes offline and then if I turn the phone's display on and access the live messenger it says that the wireless connection has been lost and reconnects.
Moreoever, it never gets my plugin to go back online either. For that part to happen, I have to first get online with a desktop client and then again login with my phone. For if I stay online with the desktop client, the phone's client is indeed alive, but won't receive any messages. I have to reconnect with my phone so that my desktop client gets thrown out. But of course, is just a matter of time before my live chat module and my phone's client gets offline and I have to do everything over again. The really annoying part is that the phone's client dies a long time before the site's plugin catch up and goes offline. Hence I might loose a lot of customers who think they are chatting with me but never get a reply.
Given the description above, I think the problem really is that live messenger doesn't ping or talk with its server that often, IF the phone is in standby mode. If it isn't, if the display is turned on, I recieve my messages instantly and everything works just fine. Sure there must be an easy fix for this problem, a small edit to be done in a config file somewhere?
All help and all problem experience is much appreciated.
After about 2hours of using my phone on wifi the exchange sync (built in mail application) doesn't sync anymore (internet itself keeps working). If I then disable en enable wifi, it works again.
I connect to exchange via https (outlook anywhere). Same goes for calendar.
btw, my GMAIL keeps working with no problem. It's just exchange that stops syncing
have you tried restarting the phone?
might be a service that got stuck
yep, doesn't fix it.
I'm gonna test TouchDown to see if it shows the same behaviour
Are you accessing Exchange via "Email for Exchange" or "Corporate"?
what do you mean?
I've made an account on my phone that connects to the 'webmail' of the exchange. Official name is Outlook Anywhere.
noob with similar issue
I'm a relative newbie to this forum so unsure of posting protocol, apologies in advance.
But whatever. I have the att version of the galaxy--the captivate--and have had a hard time getting exchange to work reliably. I've several times deleted and re-created my exchange account, and it will sync initially, and sometimes once or twice thereafter. But then, it ceases working competely, simply saying it has a "connection error".
This happens whether I'm on my company's wi-fi, home wi-fi, or just over the air 3G. the only fix is to recreate the account, and that's a pain.
I had an old winmo HTC fuze for a couple years, and it worked fine with this exchange server--I don't think I ever had to recreate the account, and it was thoroughly reliable. I also borrowed an old G1 for a couple weeks, used Roadsync, and it worked fine too.
I read in another forum that advanced task killer was the culprit, so I deinstalled it. No change. I also read that turning the synchronization on & off from the power widget was worth trying. Also no change.
Any other ideas? I too will try a 3rd party client before returning the phone. I mostly like the phone otherwise, though the GPS problem is annoying.
Appreciate any help.
Tried it with Touchdown: same issue. It tells me: No available network. However website continue to work...
When I click some links/visit some sites, it starts working again...
jehan1 said:
Tried it with Touchdown: same issue. It tells me: No available network. However website continue to work...
When I click some links/visit some sites, it starts working again...
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it sounds like the Wireless or 3G goes into sleep mode when you are not using it.
I have a similar problem, my calendar is able to sync but contacts unable to sync with exchange server.
i love gmail but im wondering why its not full push e-mail?
all will say yes its push mail but you need leave all day "sync" on to get notifications if you turn off the sync you will not have instant e mail.
leaving all day "sync" will drain a little more the battery, so if you get a mail when you have "sync" off you will nit have any notification UNTIL you turn on, there is program like shutupbattery that will sync every X time but whats the point of push mail?
get instant right? i guess using k9 will work better (not sure) but why not in stock gmail app?
That's what push is. It is a constant low bandwidth connection kept open waiting for Google to send notifications.
The gmail servers cannot just send a message to your phones IP or anything like that, because trying to get that to work with all the various operators and different networking setups in the world would be impossible.
That's how push works on a windows mobile phone, and maybe even a blackberry (but I cannot be sure of that since they run special software on the telco's side)
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That's what push is. It is a constant low bandwidth connection kept open waiting for Google to send notifications.
The gmail servers cannot just send a message to your phones IP or anything like that, because trying to get that to work with all the various operators and different networking setups in the world would be impossible.
That's how push works on a windows mobile phone, and maybe even a blackberry (but I cannot be sure of that since they run special software on the telco's side)
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i didint test it or dont remember if chrome to phone works without sync but if all works in that way why google bother to toggle "sync" yea i know its a low bandwith connection instead always check as poll but you need leave all day sync on to all work well and that will drain a little battery too
Well, you should test, that IS how Chrome to Phone works. It uses the push notification system Google developed. Which uses the push data connection.
The point is, apps written for 2.2 and up should use this system when possible. Instead of having your widgets, twitter apps, chat apps, mail apps all doing their own push or periodic checking, they can all use the one Google connection. Saving battery over 4 apps doing their own checking.
And of course it uses the battery. If you want push on ANY device it will use the battery a lot more. If you want your battery to last longer, don't use any push features.
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i didint test it or dont remember if chrome to phone works without sync but if all works in that way why google bother to toggle "sync" yea i know its a low bandwith connection instead always check as poll but you need leave all day sync on to all work well and that will drain a little battery too
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Dude, you ever tried to get your ISP to turn on your internet connection on your home laptop when you get a mail?
Well, since you (hopefully) understood what kind of gibberish it is, maybe you'll understand why the data connection is always on in the phone? Because it's your internet, and without it you WON'T HAVE ANY DATA AT ALL.
If you choose to disable this connection for battery savings - it's your personal problem that you won't get any service that comes from the internet, including mails. That's how it works, and Google has nothing to do with it.
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Dude, you ever tried to get your ISP to turn on your internet connection on your home laptop when you get a mail?
Well, since you (hopefully) understood what kind of gibberish it is, maybe you'll understand why the data connection is always on in the phone? Because it's your internet, and without it you WON'T HAVE ANY DATA AT ALL.
If you choose to disable this connection for battery savings - it's your personal problem that you won't get any service that comes from the internet, including mails. That's how it works, and Google has nothing to do with it.
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FYI, they aren't talking about turning off data, rather have gmail push without having to keep sync on. With sync on, the apps regularly poke at the servers to get info about new emails, etc. In contrast, Blackberry push email works is a different way... the server pushes notifications to the app. Chrome to Phone works in this way and I guess it would be quite viable to have other Google apps do the same...
That is[/is] how Google apps do it. My phone tends to notify me of email before Thunderbird picks it up, and they're both push.
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FYI, they aren't talking about turning off data, rather have gmail push without having to keep sync on. With sync on, the apps regularly poke at the servers to get info about new emails, etc. In contrast, Blackberry push email works is a different way... the server pushes notifications to the app. Chrome to Phone works in this way and I guess it would be quite viable to have other Google apps do the same...
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Spoken by someone who never tried to confirm what he writes, and the same goes for the OP. The easiest way to understand that you're wrong is - position your phone in place with 3G / WiFi reception, and send yourself a mail on the PC. How much time it takes until you receive it on the phone? My measurements were from 5 sec to 1.5 min, and mostly stayed within half a minute from sending time. So, if your theory was correct, it would mean that the Gmail "pokes at the servers" more than once a minute.. Which is obviously wrong, and if you monitor traffic (in the easiest way possible - just look at your "H" symbol, if you have a custom ROM), you'll see that it doesn't happen.
"Sync" is a general term. Sync can be done in multiple ways. One of them is push sync. It just so happens that Gmail is push sync. And the "Sync" switch is just to enable/disable the sync for Google apps, it doesn't say anything about it being push/pull/whatever.