John Wang - Chief Marketing Officer - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

John Wang - CMO
Here is a video with John Wang showing off some unique and innovative features of the HTC Touch Diamond.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsM
Enjoy...

Very nice. Other handy features (not sure about uniqueness) include the case with microfibres that clean the device, and the toughened glass protecting the screen.

Also some nice pictures here:
http://www.mpro.net/?chid=16&pid=14&page=1&t=9&[email protected]

Brilliant, the camera application also has OCR to read business cards check out the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSv6Eg27KWo

Just seen a few more demo’s the attention to detail is brilliant.
Along with flipping the phone over to mute the ringtone, during a call if you remove the stylus the note application starts. If the phone is off and the stylus is removed the phone also turns on to the home screen, ready to be used.
The stylus itself is magnetic and not the silo, to make sure the stylus won’t fall out. There is a microswitch inside the silo which is used to detect when the stylus has been removed.
The scroll wheel is capacitive, and has a number of led’s that flash in a circular fashion and changes with different status messages.
The charger itself is a USB socket, and a mirror black finish, once plugged in a small HTC logo glows white to indicate it is on.
The video recording at VGA is smooth, and clear outdoors with the autofocus working really well. It records in MPEG4 and H.263 with a 2 second, 10 second or unlimited record time.
The backlight also auto adjusts with the light sensor located in the earpiece.
Great Stuff...

Yeah, really good stuff. I've got a list of these cool handy features that the Touch Diamind has, on my desktop, and I just keep on adding to it...

paste list!

OK...It's only notes, so it might have a few inaccuracies created by my summarisation. Here it is so far:
- If you flip over the TD when someone is calling, it mutes itself (but does not reject the call).
- When you take out the stylus during a phone call, it starts up the note application.
- When you take out the stylus while the device is off, it turns the device on.
- The buttons below the screen are real buttons and touch sensitive. This is capacitive Touch sensitivity, so it can sense the proximity of skin and, for example, focus the camera in preperation for the taking of a photograph.
- The circular thing on the front has fancy LEDs that flash in different patterns when different things happen (e.g. new message).
- And the case is lined with a microfibre-style material that will clean both sides of the handset whenever it’s put in and taken out.
- Finally, there is toughened glass between the touch surface and the LCD screen, meaning it's pretty hard to break.
And then, from the post above:
"The charger itself is a USB socket, and a mirror black finish, once plugged in a small HTC logo glows white to indicate it is on.
The video recording at VGA is smooth, and clear outdoors with the autofocus working really well. It records in MPEG4 and H.263 with a 2 second, 10 second or unlimited record time.
The backlight also auto adjusts with the light sensor located in the earpiece."

according to the accessories forum/thread, the self cleaning case isnt included

I read on here somewhere it has OCR for the camera to capture business card info.
EDIT: LOL in this very thread

someone1234 said:
I read on here somewhere it has OCR for the camera to capture business card info.
EDIT: LOL in this very thread
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mark knew that one already... why thats useful i dont know.. i guess thats probably because im not a person who gets business cards

Oh yeah, I was going to add that to my list earlier. We really need a thread to list these random features.

just start one, and keep editing it.. maybe it'll get stickied.

maybe have whats included in the box at the top.

That's a good idea...
The new thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2233992
If anyone knows of any other features that could go in that list, or if anyone knows what's in the box, reply on that thread.

Dark Fire said:
That's a good idea...
The new thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2233992
If anyone knows of any other features that could go in that list, or if anyone knows what's in the box, reply on that thread.
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cool.. add the OCR thing, it might be usefull for some people.
I guess you could add another section with unconfirmed stuff.. like tomtom7.. and accesories like the extended battery with different back cover (which makes it a bit thicker).
stuff in the box: http://www.slashphone.com/htc-touch-diamond-unboxing-16485

I think I'll leave unconfirmed stuff off, and keep the list official, so it's more informative.

just saw your sig.. so which one you going to?
I picked Imperial over UCL for software engineering. I didnt apply to cambridge because it wasnt my kinda place

someone1234 said:
just saw your sig.. so which one you going to?
I picked Imperial over UCL for software engineering. I didnt apply to cambridge because it wasnt my kinda place
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so true, mark is always saying why dindt i apply to CAM. its because they dont do auto engineering [to which he says i could have done mechanical] and because like you its not my kinda place...
Rory

No, Cambridge have an engineering tripos, within which you have to specialise. You just seem to want Automotive in the course title, Rory.
Obviously I'd like to to to Cambridge, but we'll see how my exams (which I should be revising for now) go. I had to reject Imperial, because they gave me the same offer as Cambridge. Thankfully, I didn't like Imperial anyway - the people there were amazingly overconfident in themselves. With no offence intended, I thought Imperial was much more like what everyone thinks Cambridge is like than Cambridge was. That's why I keep on telling Rory to go to Cambridge instead of prejudging it.

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Autorotate screen via camera project...

so I downloaded the latest diamond album to my kaiser to try it out and I like it but I can't rotate the picture the same way I could with the htcalbum... So I looked at the help file and saw that to rotate the picture all I had to do was turn the phone.. WOAH.. but didn't work... obv. I've been doing some research and it seems possible that we could trigger the screen rotation by turning the phone. It uses the camera to figure out your position.. Now I'm not nearly good enough at this stuff to figure it out on my own, but I did find a little game that is supposed to move the snake based on the movement of the camera, this might be a good place to start, but I couldn't even get the game working.. it's called "CC snake" (attached below) Looking for some ideas, maybe ripping out the controls from the game is a place to start?
http://www.clutch-productions.com/ccsnake.cab
I can confirm that this program runs on my old SDA (wm5 smartphone)... still get an error when trying it on my tilt
Dunno if this is relevant or not but a short while ago, i saw a website where someone had used the camera on a Nokia mobile (i think the phone was a 6600) to create a wireless optical mouse. You had the screen in the palm of your hand and the two hardware buttons were left click and right click. I believe the data was sent over bluetooth. It probably uses a similar technique to work out the direction of travel as you would use to work out orientation.
I haven't been able to find the original website but i did find this
www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/~sheridaj/publications/2005/PERMIDPointingDevices.pdf
which seems to be a paper about using a mobile phone camera as a pointing device. I haven't read it through as i'm at work but it could be useful?
I seem to remember the original site having code samples. If i find it, ill post the link.
(Tried to upload the pdf but the file is too big, sorry )
Edit: I believe i found some more info
here are some more links:
http://www.pyrofersprojects.com/blog/?page_id=41 - This guy reckons he's done it but he's not giving out the code
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT1h_ITR0G0 - The video i found, the related videos section looks like it might have some answers.
Please stop me if this isn't helpful!!
video looks bullocks...
slovoflud said:
video looks bullocks...
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yeah, it would have been more convincing if he showed the phone actually moving the cursor although the comments link to slashdot (I didn't read the article tho)
this seems to be interesting, too
http://www.gesturetekmobile.com/
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v0srY37kkMw
you can control via motion - that's unquestionable. The problem with the 'mouse' concept is that the cam is right up against the table, so there's no light and hence no contrast, so, you can't lock.
if it is true though - i's cool, but in my mind, pointless. why not use a Mouse instead?
slovoflud said:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v0srY37kkMw
you can control via motion - that's unquestionable. The problem with the 'mouse' concept is that the cam is right up against the table, so there's no light and hence no contrast, so, you can't lock.
if it is true though - i's cool, but in my mind, pointless. why not use a Mouse instead?
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according to the guy's site, its for replacing a travel mouse or if you need a spare! pretty cool imo but i agree about the light source. Theres something not right about that video, did you check the others?
Shub-Niggurath said:
according to the guy's site, its for replacing a travel mouse or if you need a spare! pretty cool imo but i agree about the light source. Theres something not right about that video, did you check the others?
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ok, here's what he says.
"Things didnt go entirely smoothly of course. The first thing everybody is probably saying is, but the camera only shows black when its flat on the mousepad! You are of course right, Light is needed. My temporary solution is to hold the phone about .6cm above the pad, letting light in the side. My camera picks up enough to see at this distance."
don't see him do that in the video, and the window which he moves on the screen stops for a couple of seconds right before the camera points at the phone. that's why i said it's bullocks. i'm no programmer, we've done a couple of games for eyeToy, so i know you need light and contrast. (that's obvious) notice in the link i posted the guys were wearing contrasting, flat t-shirts. (Blue t-shirt/yellow block etc) not sure that Monster of a camera on that Nokia can handle patternless black surface (mousepad from the video, even at 6cm).
EDIT : Ok - just noticed he sais .6cm , not 6 .
so, half a cm... .. i don't know...
anyway - i'm open minded... might as well be true.
so has anyone been able to get the game ccsnake to work on their kaiser? might be a place to start.
what about using a glow in the dark material as a mouse pad ?

Tilt Sensor Not-Quite-SDK

I contacted HTC and asked them if they had a tilt sensor SDK, or had plans to release one, and they basically said "no". So, I decided to see what I could come up with to get tilt response integrated into my little pet-project, and to my surprise, managed to figure out how to get some basic data out of the existing tilt sensor DLL on the Diamond.
If you'd like, you can see my "hello world"-level app using the tilt sensor here on my blog. I've included the source so others can play with the few tidbits I've figured out. The app itself is pretty boring, it'll really only be of interest to developers looking to integrate tilt into their app, and even then, it's still a boring app =)
If accessing the tilt sensor is well known, feel free to ignore me.
Well done, thats great!
You should also probably look at this and talk to CharlyV, he might be able to add some info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403939
That's great news !
Now developers might use such information to release usefull applications and funny games !
Yes, I was wondering, for my car I use the G-tech for acceleration-measurement.
Is this sensor sensitive / good enough to also do those kind of things?
Also, navigation programs can be a lot more precise by knowing when accelerating, cornering or braking.
Riel said:
Yes, I was wondering, for my car I use the G-tech for acceleration-measurement.
Is this sensor sensitive / good enough to also do those kind of things?
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Good question: I might try to write some sort of logging program and see what kind of data I can get out of a car trip. That's a bit off for now.
Also, I made a minor update the project, I determined a few more of the unknown values that the API returns.
perhaps you or some other guys are capable to work with some tools mentioned in this post??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2373447&postcount=56
Is there any chance to develop a calibration tool for this sensor?? Mine drifts to lower-left and thats annoying because Opera always means, I rotate my phone :-(
Thank you
I updated the project to include a sample of how to use the event driven notification of different orientations that Opera uses (instead of polling the sensor constantly to determine the current orientation).
I'll have to do some digging to see if there's any way to calibrate the sensor. It'd be nice (mine is a bit off too), but I don't see anything immediatly obvious.
Perfect news!
I hope there are devs, who will make apps or games for this. My idea of a new game is "Black Circle".
(Side in German bug game in English, dont worry)
http://spiele.isnichwahr.de/r432-spin-the-black-circle.html
What do you tink about it?
I wrote a managed wrapper based on Scott's work:
http://blog.enterprisemobile.com/2008/07/using-htc-diamonds-sensor-sdk-from-managed-code/
I think it would be possible to calibrate the sensor by replacing the HTCSensorSDK.dll with one that acts as a pass through to the real thing. Then it could "massage" the returned values with calibration adjustments.
Teeter -> HTCSensorSDK.dll (one we roll that tweaks values) -> RealHTCSensorSDK.dll (the real DLL)
I don't think that the DLL is replaceable unless the device is flashed with a new ROM.
Thoughts?

HUGE (!) Dialler / phone screen ?

Hi all,
Bought my kaiser around a month ago and I'm very happy with it in general, but I feel the phone software is quite inadequate (unless I'm missing something obvious).
What I mean is that I love the ppc, but when it's supposed to be a phone, I want it to act JUST like a phone - no other crap on the screen, easy to use when it's clicked into a car cradle when driving.
Specifics:
It'd be brilliant if when I receive a call, the kaiser would flick to fullscreen with
(a) large fonts
(b) a big customisable contact pic of who's calling
(c) Caller's name/number
(d) BIG, simple buttons to answer/reject.
(e) nothing else!
I have searched the forums, I've tried so many pieces of software (fffriends etc) and I've flashed my phone with some of the excellent roms available here, but for me, unless I can find a solution to this 'problem', I'm always going to be disappointed with this device.
Any help most welcome, thank you!
I'm not sure if you've tried it yet, but PhotoContacts Pro used to have the fullscreen caller ID you're looking for, as well as a good photo dialer for making calls. I used to use it on my ols wm2003 ipaq, since 2003 didn't support caller ID photos. I remember being able to choose between small pic, large pic, and fullscreen. I haven't tried the latest one yet, as the kaiser has photo caller ID support and I have different needs from yours, but I can't imagine that they would have removed that bit.
hope this helps
-=ADAM=-
I'm taking a look now, thank you. I must say, so far this looks like it solves at least part of the problem - the incoming call feature is *exactly* what I was wanting.
Much appreciated
Now I guess I just need a better dialler application of some kind. I'd like a full screen dialler, with *nothing* D) on it aside from
(a) Numbers
(b) a button for accessing contacts.
I hate having to use a fingernail to hit a teeny little 'contacts' button - if I'm in the car or walking, I want to feel like I'm using a phone, not something I need a stylus for.
Any input most welcome.
the s2u2 slide to unlock program features a setting where you can also slide to answer. it also displays the contact picture in full screen when someone is calling. its large and easy to work with
Wlofea said:
Now I guess I just need a better dialler application of some kind. I'd like a full screen dialler, with *nothing* D) on it aside from
(a) Numbers
(b) a button for accessing contacts.
I hate having to use a fingernail to hit a teeny little 'contacts' button - if I'm in the car or walking, I want to feel like I'm using a phone, not something I need a stylus for.
Any input most welcome.
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try this FULL SCREEN DIALER ....
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-full-screen-dialer.html
Now I guess I just need a better dialler application of some kind. I'd like a full screen dialler, with *nothing* D) on it aside from
(a) Numbers
(b) a button for accessing contacts.
I hate having to use a fingernail to hit a teeny little 'contacts' button - if I'm in the car or walking, I want to feel like I'm using a phone, not something I need a stylus for.
Any input most welcome.
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I enjoy MinimalDialer. Big Buttons. Easy to Tweak.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395086

Fun with Diamond Camera

Hi there!
Today I had a little fun with my Diamond using the camera to produce some kind of false color realtime background picture (or better background video?) in fullscreen (full 480x640 !).
This is what it looks like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tiEji2sTyA
Well, it's a little bit battery consuming and somehow disturbing to look at, so it's not really usable, but it's a funny thing, isn't it?
cheers
Well... It's incredible!! Are you sure it isn't a fake!!???
How do you managed it ? How do you configure manile to be trasparent with camera underneath?
So curious!!
How did you do that ?????
How can your top & bottom bar be transparant ???
It's really fun !!!... I want to be able to do that too ^_^.
Wooow.
Please share your knowledge with us!
Greetings to all.
Yup share plz.How you did that nice trick?
SUPER
Expleine how pls !
Little useful and limited battery time
i want to know how you got the top and bottom bars transparent.
can this be made into a program that you can just run on demand rather than just being on at all times? so we can run it to play around with it then turn it off when your done?
Its a fake. He dont want or he cant tell us how it works.
He just want that we beg to him " Oooo please show us how it works, youre the best etc."
I think he just need attention and nothing more.
Poor guy.
FAKE
look at 16-18sec. when he moves the D closer but the image of the computermag onscreen does not get any smaller
also the angle is not right given the fact that the d camera records 90 dregrees to the screen
I dont unterstand why people doing this. He has no friends or why?
Great!!! You're the best. Pleeeeeeease... show us how it works!!!
You know it's actually logically quite simple to make such a program using video overlay as was used on older Windows operating systems before the DWM came to light.
What the deveolper has probably done is made a theme for the diamond that has alot of a single colour, most likely magenta, as this is not used often in WM6.1 (to my knowledge). All one has to do then, is render video onto any area of the screen which is pink. Using this technique, you could most likely render pre-recorded video onto the screen. If a program is created to sit ontop of all other windows, and remain ontop, and simply pass through stylus entry underneath it, then this is actually a relatively simple things to do...
This method explains how the bars appear transparent, but other visual elements do not. It also explaint why you can see aliasing around fonts and visual elements, as well as no transparensy on the Manila slidey bar thingy.
Or he used the colour as a traditional green screen, and added the video on his computer later.
Surur
teh **** ;-)
And Why does that Diamond look different to mine (it seems to have rounded corners...
sickboy555 said:
teh **** ;-)
And Why does that Diamond look different to mine (it seems to have rounded corners...
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because its a CDMA diamond, its the step up from your GSM models.
Juggalo_X said:
because its a CDMA diamond, its the step up from your GSM models.
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not really ... thats a regular 3g / gsm device from t mobile germany ..
Kleiner Hirnloser Spacko, na geht Dir jetzt einer ab weil alle gebettelt haben?
Nunja T-Mobile User, was soll man dazu noch sagen....
It appears the video is real time.
As for the part at 16-18 seconds, well that effect is caused by just moving the camcorder closer to the phone and at a slightly different angle. It can be seen happening throughout the video.
No one in their right mind would choreograph the exact steps and angles to match the video this exactly. It would take many hours I assure you. Therefore the video must be real time.
However, the elements displayed in the foreground could be faked. Lucky me, I have a 61" monitor/hdtv that I can see some elements rather clearly. One of those elements is the time displayed on the phone.
At 20s into the video the clock turns
14:02
at 1m17s its
14:03
Do the math. Where did the 3 seconds go?
Perhaps he just edited out 3 seconds where it displayed his name or something similar. The world may never know..
If it's all indeed a fake, then why would someone do this? Advertising the newspaper on the table maybe? Or just for kicks... If it's just for kicks then likely it would be someone here, and likely someone drawing attention to it at roughly around the same time this thread was started.
My theory is that it's real, it's from someone here, and they want to get people talking about it. Eventually, someone will say, "Hey I figured it out"...and that will be them.

unlock with fingerprints?

Is there anyway to lock and unlock using fingerprints with the touchscreen on the fuze? I was just curious because that would be so sweet!!
jvar11889 said:
Is there anyway to lock and unlock using fingerprints with the touchscreen on the fuze?
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oh yeah. that would be great. Stick this thread ;-)
By using biometrics? No, the screen it touch sensitive, it's not capable of actually reading data from your fingers.
I'm 99.99999% sure this is a no go.The phones that do have this feature have a dedicated fingerprint reader, not just the touch screen
GaZ said:
I'm 99.99999% sure this is a no go.The phones that do have this feature have a dedicated fingerprint reader, not just the touch screen
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not really..the iphone has a touch screen and its capable of reading your fingerprint
Sorry man, but its not possible. I can also confirm that the iphone can not identify finger prints. You maybe talking about an app that I once saw, that made it look like it was reading your fingerprint, when in actual fact it was jus a trick to play on your friends and would work if anyone put there finger on it.
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Sorry man, but its not possible. I can also confirm that the iphone can not identify finger prints. You maybe talking about an app that I once saw, that made it look like it was reading your fingerprint, when in actual fact it was jus a trick to play on your friends and would work if anyone put there finger on it.
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thread should be closed.
Then can someone make a Cab. file like the slide to unlock but this time you gotta like hold a certain area of the phone's screen for like, lets say 5-10 sec. and it unlocks the screen, we can put a fake fingerprint sections where you place your finger and it unlocks the phone..you know, make it look like it has a fingerprint scan unlocker..
and then there can be like a bar in the bottoms saying "scanning" or something, then access granted..lol
I dont know I would give it a shot if I knew how to make apps or cabs...
lol, lets get the gps lag fixed before we start making fake fingerprint scanners.
there is an app where you slide ur finger in a certain pattern to unlock the phone...kind of like what the tmobile g1 has..its called throttle lock or something..maybe thats what ur looking for
You can't use the screen to scan fingerprints. However, I suppose you could use the camera to "scan" a finger. It would be difficult to actually code the algorithm to detect a certain fingerprint everytime with any accuracy. But with a good enough pic (black & white, high contrast, etc), I suppose it could be done.
Probably more awkward than useful...but would definitely make a nice show-offy app.
Slide to Unlock software (S2U2) is already out there. Here's the post. It's not a fingerprint scanner though.
The touch screen and driver report events as PenDown(pixely,pixelx), PenUp(pixely,pixelx)
You'd be putting on a big ol show to claim to read a fingerprint from that
Oooooh very good point by Da_G, and a definite topic ender. We would need multitouch functionality for this to work. and even then it'd be a bloody struggle. I'm still sticking with my initial response of not possible
What could be cool is that you scan your thumbprint, make an image of it, make a locking app that has you press the screen at a certain pressure and unlocks 1 sec later, so when you slide your finger off, it shows the scanned image of your thumbprint I thought the phone can also sense the pressure?
Kraize said:
What could be cool is that you scan your thumbprint, make an image of it, make a locking app that has you press the screen at a certain pressure and unlocks 1 sec later, so when you slide your finger off, it shows the scanned image of your thumbprint I thought the phone can also sense the pressure?
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Wouldn't getting the same pressure all the time be really hard? Like you would have to basically set it to maximum pressure setting so that you can just press kinda hard on the phone? Maybe we can do what you said with image of the thumbprint and then make it so that you have to place your thumb in a certain quadrant of the phone for it to recognize or multiple quadrants with multiple variations of one thumb so you can say " oh it scans my finger three times for accurate analysis of my finger print" lol
There is a reason why there are devices with extra built-in biometric finger sensor.. even on touch screen devices like older iPaq Pocket PCs, some touch screen laptops (eg Fujitsu).. Touch screen is not possible to detect minute things like lines on fingers. Touch screen detects only area pressure..
and now we all wonder when touch screen will be able to detect the tiny lines on a thumb. Or if it would be easier to just have it detect the ph of your thumb and the phone registers that this person is my owner and unlocks. Or detects DNA... anyways, i believe nanotechnology will need to be implemented and atleast a decade for these to come about but when it does, it could be very interesting to see what people come up with.
Howler82 said:
You can't use the screen to scan fingerprints. However, I suppose you could use the camera to "scan" a finger. It would be difficult to actually code the algorithm to detect a certain fingerprint everytime with any accuracy. But with a good enough pic (black & white, high contrast, etc), I suppose it could be done.
Probably more awkward than useful...but would definitely make a nice show-offy app.
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I hate to continue this thread the community doesn't seem to like to discuss, but that seems quite possible since there are photo-recognizing programs on the PC, but they are not very reliable from what I hear. Doubt it'd be much better on a phone.
Agent Blair said:
I hate to continue this thread the community doesn't seem to like to discuss, but that seems quite possible since there are photo-recognizing programs on the PC, but they are not very reliable from what I hear. Doubt it'd be much better on a phone.
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A lil bit off subject but along the same lines... are there any programs out right now that I can use my camera and do OCR to make a text or pdf file? it'd be sooo useful to have an app like that.

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