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Quick contacts in TF3D is pure rubbish...

There is nothing "quick" about it, and the whole point of quick contacts is being able to find a few people very quickly.
With SPB Mobile shell, all you have to do is 2 clicks and you're at your contact (one click for quick contacts, and another click to enter your person).
With TF3D, You have to do one click in order to get into quick contacts, and then painstakingly slide your finger on the small slider, until you hopefully reach your desired contact at some point. This is so fricking dumb. It should be the definition of form over function. It's almost unbelievable that HTC used this total disaster to serve as the most recognized picture of the touch diamond (smiling Grace Fuller).
Is there any way to replace this horrendous quick contacts tab with something more efficient (ala SPB MSII) ?

you can also move quickly through your contacts on the right side of that screen, goes pretty fast.

Hi after a sync my quick contacts is missing and i cant put it again? I only can put the new contacts and the old whose missing i cant put it again?

Have any of the tweakers put some thought into expanding the maximum number of quick contacts?

you can also move quickly through your contacts on the right side of that screen, goes pretty fast.
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I *was* talking about using the right slider of that screen. The thought of having to look at the faces of my contacts, one at a time, in order to reach the desired one, never even crossed my mind.

Have any of the tweakers put some thought into expanding the maximum number of quick contacts?
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If you are willing to sacrifice just *a little bit* more function, you can simply put your contacts at the "Photos and Videos" tab, then you can browse through an unlimited amount of your friends faces.

Noam23 said:
I *was* talking about using the right slider of that screen. The thought of having to look at the faces of my contacts, one at a time, in order to reach the desired one, never even crossed my mind.
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Sorry, misunderstood you then. Maybe assign one of the softbuttons to 'contacts'? I have PI8 assigned to where "phone" was I believe.
Anyhow, I agree that it's more visual than functional. For calling one of my contacts i still prefer the old way of pressing phone button (hard button) and type first letter of my contact.

Noam23 said:
There is nothing "quick" about it, and the whole point of quick contacts is being able to find a few people very quickly.
With SPB Mobile shell, all you have to do is 2 clicks and you're at your contact (one click for quick contacts, and another click to enter your person).
With TF3D, You have to do one click in order to get into quick contacts, and then painstakingly slide your finger on the small slider, until you hopefully reach your desired contact at some point. This is so fricking dumb. It should be the definition of form over function. It's almost unbelievable that HTC used this total disaster to serve as the most recognized picture of the touch diamond (smiling Grace Fuller).
Is there any way to replace this horrendous quick contacts tab with something more efficient (ala SPB MSII) ?
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I agree too. I think it's just the choice of form over function. I must say that HTC home older versions were better functionally . Just 2 clicks dialing as well. I am also not using them anymore. It's better to use the quickdial feature on the phone instead

Anyhow, I agree that it's more visual than functional. For calling one of my contacts i still prefer the old way of pressing phone button (hard button) and type first letter of my contact.
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Still, if you have a small group of people you are in very frequent touch, it is much easier to have them on speed dial.
It's better to use the quickdial feature on the phone instead
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Can you send an SMS using the quickdial ?, after I find the person in quickdial, all I can do is call him...

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Can you send an SMS using the quickdial ?, after I find the person in quickdial, all I can do is call him...
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You can start a new sms and when typing in the To field the first letters of the contact it shows.

i totally agree.
i would love to have contacts, messages and emails to be shown in an ordered list-style like the recently discovered call history. touchflo3d itself is really nice with this sliding-thing but these three tabs are indeed more visual than functional. hope someday someone will discover how to add third-party plugins...a vga-version of icontact integrated would be awesome.

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Well, partly agree with this thread, I agree totally that it isnt the fastest way (for exemple HTC home contacts on my tytn were much quicker)...
But then comes the issue, Is it really QUICK contacts or is it favorite contacts, I have to admit i pretty much like the interface, and navigating on the right side goes quite well...
So no, it isnt the quickest way, but much faster than the standard program, and besides that with a very nice interface..

Noam23 said:
There is nothing "quick" about it, and the whole point of quick contacts is being able to find a few people very quickly.
With SPB Mobile shell, all you have to do is 2 clicks and you're at your contact (one click for quick contacts, and another click to enter your person).
With TF3D, You have to do one click in order to get into quick contacts, and then painstakingly slide your finger on the small slider, until you hopefully reach your desired contact at some point. This is so fricking dumb. It should be the definition of form over function. It's almost unbelievable that HTC used this total disaster to serve as the most recognized picture of the touch diamond (smiling Grace Fuller).
Is there any way to replace this horrendous quick contacts tab with something more efficient (ala SPB MSII) ?
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But it looks darnnn nice, specially if you assign cool avatars to your contacts!

hey if u want to quickly call a contact, why go to touchflo3d at all...the fastest, and i mean really fast...method is to press the call button on the phone, and use the T9 dialer to bring up the contact (provided u know the name of the person ur dialing )
this works pretty fast...coming from an HTC touch (elfin), where the dialer lagged a lot, this one is blazing fast!! try it out

and yeah...that quick contacts thingie is purely for cosmetic purposes...useful only for showing off to your friends!
using the dialpad is the only way to use the 'phone'

The thing I hate about 'quick contacts' is how it displays the full name from my contact, instead of using the 'display as' field to get the name.
Oh well, more disappointment from my most disappointing phone ever.

an123 said:
hey if u want to quickly call a contact, why go to touchflo3d at all...the fastest, and i mean really fast...method is to press the call button on the phone, and use the T9 dialer to bring up the contact (provided u know the name of the person ur dialing )
this works pretty fast...coming from an HTC touch (elfin), where the dialer lagged a lot, this one is blazing fast!! try it out
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this is what i do, and for SMS i strt the message click contact and hit the 1st 3 letters of there name. i have removed the quick contacts tab not because its slow but because there is no need for it to be there at all

dutch64 said:
Sorry, misunderstood you then. Maybe assign one of the softbuttons to 'contacts'? I have PI8 assigned to where "phone" was I believe.
Anyhow, I agree that it's more visual than functional. For calling one of my contacts i still prefer the old way of pressing phone button (hard button) and type first letter of my contact.
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I've the softbuttons mapped to Contacts (left) and Camera (right), so getting to the contacts list is a single click, and then scroll or press the letter on the right column. I think is quite fast.

Quick Contacts is purely for quick access to your 'favourite' contacts, and it serves that function well for me: it is not laggy and provides a quick means of me contacting my top ten or so contacts with my fat thumb to hand. I see no problem with it. with a tap on the contact you can Email, SMS or call them. It's pretty sweet in my estimates.
As for the Diamond being disappointing = each to their own I suppose, but for me it's the best phone I've ever owned lacking only a decent camera and (less importantly) an expansion slot. It also scuffs too easily, but aside from that it does me proud every day and I love the weather and contacts tabs especially.

And quick contacts are not only for calling, but also for choosing which number to call, to geolocalize them, write mail, etc.
But I agree to the fact that when you scroll on the right, HTC should have skipp the transition between pictures... It's way to slow for quick-supposed contact browsing. I figured a way to make things better, just wait until somebody finds out how to program TF3D tabs-plugins.

Dial Screen Choices?

Would someone be so kind as to point me to where I might find some Dial Screen skins / options.
I'm looking for something that will:
1. show a LARGER Contact Image
2. and secondary if it could have slightly larger dial buttons that would be cool to
Thanks for any info...
Oh btw - I have a AT&T Tilt, one is running Cube(SCLPF_1-62_Uno_Skin_) and one is not.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395086

Thanks...
Thanks for the link
That helps with the larger dial pad .... but what about one that lets you have a Larger Contact Image?

Not really sure if your talking about just contact photos for the incoming calls or what. Cuz if you install S2U2 (which is free) and you can turn on its caller ID function and make your contact photos show full screen when receiving calls. But as for large photos to choose from to make an outgoing call, the only thing I am really aware of is PocketX Photo Contacts From the description I read, it too can make your contact photos full screen for your caller ID for incoming calls but this costs money. You can also browse your contact list via somewhat large photos. But keep in mind this program is a PHONEBOOK app. As for a DIALER that has very large contact photos, I dont know. Also, I havnt used this PocketX app personally so I cant tell you much more about it. Sorry. Anyways hope this helps.

I searched for the same thing as the first poster. Although it's true that Photo Contacts would do the job, it's incredibly bloated *and* (as already pointed out) it's not a dialer.
I haven't found an all round solution yet. My temporary 'solution' is to have a custom theme/pages with WAD, allowing for a nice big friendly photo dialler for a selection of my regular contacts.
I'm quite disappointed with the phone aspects of this device, to be honest. But I've bought it now so I'm just trying to make the best of a bad situation. The rest's great tho

"Nice" to see I'm not the only one looking for this ;-)
What custom theme/pages with WAD are you using? (oh and what's WAD).
Any chance of a screen shot?
Thanks
Wlofea said:
I searched for the same thing as the first poster. Although it's true that Photo Contacts would do the job, it's incredibly bloated *and* (as already pointed out) it's not a dialer.
I haven't found an all round solution yet. My temporary 'solution' is to have a custom theme/pages with WAD, allowing for a nice big friendly photo dialler for a selection of my regular contacts.
I'm quite disappointed with the phone aspects of this device, to be honest. But I've bought it now so I'm just trying to make the best of a bad situation. The rest's great tho
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I'd just shame myself if I posted a screenshot, my artistic talents are near zero
It's quite easy, although a little time consuming to set WAD up the way you like it, but here you go :
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products/pocketpc/WisBarAdvanceDesktop/
Absolutely perfect for me, as I really (really!) don't like all these custom phone themes kicking around in here giving 3D effects and slowing my phone to a crawl.
WAD'll let you set things *your* way. Not perfect in it's entireity, but certainly the best thing available for me.
Any help, just ask. I'll do my best.

Dialer Fix

I often describe my Fuze as a great PPC but lousy phone. My biggest complaint is the dialer. The biggest issues are the keys being too small and the keys blacking out during a call.
I have installed Nosleep and TouchInCallScreenTweak with mixed results.
I few months back I saw a post on Iconsoft Phone Extension and ignored it as it cost $. I saw a post again on it the other day about the release version and tried it. I may be hooked. It has Dialer, Contacts, Call History, and Favorites tabs and is pretty customizable. The best thing though is the dialer. You can actually dial a # key, credit card number, etc., while in a call. The keys are large enough so I don't mis-dial too.
It is worth the two week free trial. For me, I think I'm going to spend the $25 to keep it.
It's here:
http://iconsoft.com/?language=en&menu=ab6edc6b63d1a291
and NO, I don't work for them.

You sure you don't work for em?
Saw the exact same post on the at&t forums site.
Oh, now I see why LOL......I'd do it to, if it would save me 25 bucks
You can get an Iconsoft Phone Extension license in several ways:
* Post 5 new topics on the subject of Iconsoft PhonEx on Internet forums dedicated to the relevant subject, with a link to www.iconsoft.com
or
* Post 1 video on YouTube, telling of the advantages of the Iconsoft PhonEx + 2 new topics on forums dedicated to the relevant subject, with a link to www.iconsoft.com
or
* Publish positive article on a resource dedicated to the relevant subject, with a link to www.iconsoft.com

I paid my $25
and thought I would share. If you would like, I'll attach my PayPal receipt.

Iconsoft 1.4 is absolutely awesome I'm using it with energy ROM 6.5, because original HTC dialer conflicts with WM 6.5. That's the way, how should look contact's application And 25 usd isn't very expansive

I have to say, when I tried it out, I thought it looked quite nice, although I'm not sure it gave me much more than the standard dialer for my use. However, although I didn't seem to be able to uninstall it (so be careful of that, if you are just trying it out), it did work with my Touch Incall Screen Tweak as long as you got it to switch the screen off during a call in the first place. If you don't do that, it seemed to prevent the screen being switched off completely, and just allowed it to be dimmed.
Cheers,
Steve.

With version 1.4 and some alternative skins available, I am now very satisfied with its function. I especially like the the fact a Speakerphone button is available and you can get the Keyboard back in view easily if you have to enter a digit to do something.
It is a shame people get flamed for talking about it. Iconsoft's marketing ploy was a dumb move but the product is has made my Fuze finally usable as a phone.
For those that want to try it, search for it. I'd post the link but then I'll get flamed again. I've attached a screen capture of the Dialer. The new skins come in Red and Green too.

does iconsoft phonex 1.4 allow th call recording feature? (ICR) thx.

There is another alternative which in my view is better. I have tried both extensively.
Take a look here: www.inesoft.com and look at Phone 4.
I have been using Inesoft Phone 4 for quite some time. It works great with 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5. I would not run any phone without it. In fact, I bought 2 licenses for the same phone, but that is a different story.
Be advised however, that the great big buttons you see for dialing are only available when you start the call. Once the call is connected, the normal system dialer is what is available. So if you have to check your office voicemail for instance, you can start the call with the big buttons, but once connected, you will be back to the small standard system dialer buttons. Not a problem for me as almost everything is on speed dial.
Even with that flaw, this is a great app. I can honestly say that I think it is the most well though out application from a users perspective that I have ever seen on the WM platform. They have a generous trial. Give it a try and you will see what I mean. Be sure to fill the first page of Favorites and you will notice that it automatically creates another one. Also, look how easy they made it to rename your favorite buttons. Lots of little things that show how much attention they pay to details.
Oh, one other thing, it has never crashed or caused any problems on my phone in about 9-12 months of use. Now that I think about it, it is kind of embarrassing, but in this time period, I have used 3 different phones (eTen G500+, x500 & Fuze) all with the same great results from this app.
Happy trials.
Doug M.

Have you tried inesoft to compare the phone 4? I hear that's good as well. I can't seem to figure out how to add favorites. Does yours work in WM 6.5?

One question for the inesoft Phone 4.
Does it have a slider for answering calls or only press buttons?

1999TL said:
Have you tried inesoft to compare the phone 4? I hear that's good as well. I can't seem to figure out how to add favorites. Does yours work in WM 6.5?
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I figured this out. When I went into contacts, I would press the favorite button. This just brought me back to the favorite menu. In the contacts, you have to select the contact, then press "edit", then add favorite.

Contacts Changer
I've had this program for a while. When you add contacts to WM there backwards unless you put them the other way.This app will swap them back.
Each time you add a new contact run contact changer and swaps them. Used it on my 8525 and now my fuze. I'm not for sure where i got it but theres a website at the bottom of the app of who ever made it to give credit.
Thought some body else might want it. Didn't want to start a new thread

An unstated feature of 1.4 is that it adds back the BT status icon to the Taskbar. The BT status indicators are called by the HTC Dialer. Took me along time to finally figure that out. Using the WM6 or other alternative dialers nukes them. PhonEx adds them back though BT Discoverable does not have a separate icon. I think the status icon is a must as my Fuze provides no other clues that BT is On. I don't want BT left On when on Battery.
PhonEx also plays nice with PocketShield although you must tweak their redundant features. PocketShield is a great app that disables unintended button presses while fumbling with your phone as it comes out of your pocket, case, purse, or wherever you carry it.
Adding NoSleepRaphael and TouchInCallScreenTweak has finally tamed my unruly Fuze.
My great PPC but lousy phone is now much better. Downside is having to pay bucks to get a workable phone that wasn't cheap in the first place.

I have been using iconsoft PhoneEx for a while and think it is handdown the best dialer I have ever seen.. The search function for contacts (I have 100's) work smooth and easy, the full screen cid and slide up to answer are all great.. The only 2 complaints I have are you can not reject a call with a text message, and i am seeing some conflicts with the standard MS dialer using NRG's ROM but all in all it makes using the phone much easier to use..
Has anyone else seen the conflicts with MS dialer (usually upon hanging up a call) or missing a call...

I'm using the stock AT&T Fuze ROM. PocketShield shows the MS Dialer enabled by PhonEx. I am not seeing conflicts but then the Fuze always seems finicky. I have learned to live, maybe tolerate is a better word, with it.
Phonex is very solid right now making me scared of a new version.

only press buttons. i have used both quite a bit and must say phonex is much better imo. i find inesoft to be visually ugly and not very responsive. scrolling is not nearly as smooth as phonex.
just my .02

Kaiser junkie

I love my Kaiser, I will not trade it in for a Fuze. I am however set back with questions unanswered. I'll enlighten you.....
1) I have been using an app called "Where is My Phone". I love this app. There is a certain feature I am quite curious about that acts as a macro. When you SMS the phone with a certain command as the text, it triggers a macro to work. This is very interesting to me. I am aware that there is a program running in the background to check for such a text request, but my question is, are there other programs out there that will let you run your own macros on such a text requests???
2) I am also running the Inesoft program on my phone. I absolutely love the dialer, however, once the dialer has been used and a call is placed, the default dialer pops up... very sad since I havn't been able to find a dialer skin that I like. (yes, I have searched everywhere and found them all) Is there a way to set the inesoft dialer as the default dialer on my Kaiser? This would be very useful, because I cant just tap and hold the "1" button on my inesoft dialer to activate retrieving my phones voicemail messages.
This forum is my lifeline to the outside world when it comes to my Phone and i thank you all in advance.

uhm as for your first question, I'm not too sure if I can answer it. I do use an app called mobliza that runs in the background. it's basically like an away message program for SMS. it also has a feature that allows it to carry on a conversation with people who text you. go to tiltmobility.com to find the download.
as for your second question, I don't think there is any way to make it your default dialer unless it's cooked into a ROM.

actually, my first question looks confusing... what i want to do is get my phone to perform actions when i sms it. if you look at "where is my phone", its an app that sends you the gps coords, with a google maps hyperlink of your cell phones location when you send it a certain text.
As for part 2, I guess Ill just cross my fingers and hope someone cooks up a rom. thats the best dialer skin ive seen. finger friendly, big, plain, simple.....

viol8tion said:
As for part 2, I guess Ill just cross my fingers and hope someone cooks up a rom. thats the best dialer skin ive seen. finger friendly, big, plain, simple.....
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I do not think xda allows roms with commercial software in the forums, as this would be considered warez, unless they just include the shareware version, which would be useless as it requires you to purchase after trial period. Maybe you can download a kitchen and integrate the software into your rom, shouldn't be that difficult.

You could provide the software to the chef of your favorite rom and ask him kindly to brew it in for you. As long as the software are fully available for download its no problem adding it to any rom. Reason why its not done are that people have to buy to fully take advantage of the software and no chef is going to force something like that on you. There has been payware on certain rom from some of the most known chef`s in here, but its very rare and if so its because the software been brand new or killing good.
The thought of brew this in case the device is stolen by someone are good. Cause if the thief are not an advance user chance of getting it back are good even after a hard reset

I used to use inesoft address book and if I can remember correctly, there is a setting where you can make the dialer and history the default.

viol8tion said:
I love my Kaiser, I will not trade it in for a Fuze. I am however set back with questions unanswered. I'll enlighten you.....
1) I have been using an app called "Where is My Phone". I love this app. There is a certain feature I am quite curious about that acts as a macro. When you SMS the phone with a certain command as the text, it triggers a macro to work. This is very interesting to me. I am aware that there is a program running in the background to check for such a text request, but my question is, are there other programs out there that will let you run your own macros on such a text requests???
2) I am also running the Inesoft program on my phone. I absolutely love the dialer, however, once the dialer has been used and a call is placed, the default dialer pops up... very sad since I havn't been able to find a dialer skin that I like. (yes, I have searched everywhere and found them all) Is there a way to set the inesoft dialer as the default dialer on my Kaiser? This would be very useful, because I cant just tap and hold the "1" button on my inesoft dialer to activate retrieving my phones voicemail messages.
This forum is my lifeline to the outside world when it comes to my Phone and i thank you all in advance.
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yup, i think i came across that program, where you text your mobile with predefined commands and when your cell picks it up it runs the application or script. One thing i forgot the name, but i think its freeware, if my poor memory serves me right. Damn, anyway it stays on your homescreen, just a small icon on the lower part.
The developers also programmed the location based application launcher based on what cell radio tower you are on.

[App] BIG Dialer (Now with VOICE)

Big Dialer allows you to easily make phone calls with the big sleek looking dialpad buttons to dial phone numbers without having to squint!
Now you have the ability to Enable Voice Dialing! This feature allows you to check to enable/disable, so you can hear the buttons you're pressing as you dial, which is great if you have trouble seeing when you dial as it confirms what digit's you're really pressing.
Code:
windowsphone.com/s?appid=7cf0b981-2bac-e011-a53c-78e7d1fa76f8

good ,how can i Download it？

It's in the Marketplace.

A very good idea. Congratulations.
What i don't understand is why didn't you go for a metro look that would go well with the rest of the OS?
Wp7 has a very distinctive look, and when an app uses a different style it is immediately observable and very distracting.

First of all, THANK YOU to everyone who supported my program. I originally made this for my Mom and Grandma.
The reason I did not use metro styling, it was easier for my family to see the apps text big and bold. However, I do have another edition of big dialer coming that is completely free and for those without horrible vision, can use the metro styling which has been requested many times and really wanted to meet everyones wants/desires.
Which, if anyone has any questions, please let me know. Also, for WP7 users, if you can't wait for the new WP7 BIG Dialer and want it now but don't want to pay, ask me and I will send you the XAP for you to manually install and no payment required.
Remember to also look for I.T. Guy, a program to help service call tech's to perform repairs properly and SMS or Email invoices right from I.T. Guy to your customer immediately for payment (Payment modules on the way).
If you're a person that likes to BETA stuff, currently, Project: Job Track (not the final release name) lets you literally find jobs around you via GPS. All I can say for now...
Once again thank you everyone!!!

Upgrade - Coming
I have heard some feedback and to make things even easier and more visible... I have made 2 updates that are visible to the UI:
New Call Button (Larger + Color Change)
Phone # Box Modified (Bright-Red Gradient w/Easy Text Color)
Bug-fixes:
White Button Press Fix (Changed to Touch)
New Features:
Call History List (Dial "00")

BIG Dialer now with multi-lingual support and on-the-fly translation!

nice dialpad

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Thank you, I appreciate it. The free edition is almost out.

Add some exception handling it's closing a lot

First, thank you for your response and recommendations.
Second, unfortunately currently in the WP7 platform, it is EXTREMELY limited as to what you can do and actually out of our hands as we can't even create a cancel/dial button, only pre-set a name + number (to show who you're dialing) and make it Popup asking to dial but only cause the platform at this time does not allow it. It's extremely unfortunate as we can't even control the dial-pad size/look/feel except for 10 or so pre-set options using InputScope, which is the reason for the custom buttons but the whole reason for this specific App was to have huge buttons that were easily viewable for those who have issues seeing.
Third, as for the voice translation speaking, it may be sluggish as it currently grabs the voices via Internet and than streams it as output to your speaker phone. The previous version with the "English" speaking was very large as an App to have great quality audio that was embedded but too many complaints the app was too large, so we compromised and grab translations via the web.
Which the current method is getting updated as we are applying Speak Dial, where you literally speak and it dials what you said but also speaking (if enabled) out-loud the number prior to actually dialing and the keyboard does get a face-lift and I am sure many like yourself will be happy about .
Again thank you so much for your input, hopefully you'll like the update waiting to be accepted in the Marketplace .
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the voice response is very sluggish and inconsistent.
I highly suggest using the default theme colors instead of images for the buttons.
The clear and dial buttons are too close together. I would suggest to have them separated on different corners, or use a swipe left action to clear.
I'm not sure if there is a limitation of the wp7 platform but if the call button could read out the full number and have a huge call/cancel button it would be very nice.
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