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HUGE (!) Dialler / phone screen ?

Hi all,
Bought my kaiser around a month ago and I'm very happy with it in general, but I feel the phone software is quite inadequate (unless I'm missing something obvious).
What I mean is that I love the ppc, but when it's supposed to be a phone, I want it to act JUST like a phone - no other crap on the screen, easy to use when it's clicked into a car cradle when driving.
Specifics:
It'd be brilliant if when I receive a call, the kaiser would flick to fullscreen with
(a) large fonts
(b) a big customisable contact pic of who's calling
(c) Caller's name/number
(d) BIG, simple buttons to answer/reject.
(e) nothing else!
I have searched the forums, I've tried so many pieces of software (fffriends etc) and I've flashed my phone with some of the excellent roms available here, but for me, unless I can find a solution to this 'problem', I'm always going to be disappointed with this device.
Any help most welcome, thank you!

I'm not sure if you've tried it yet, but PhotoContacts Pro used to have the fullscreen caller ID you're looking for, as well as a good photo dialer for making calls. I used to use it on my ols wm2003 ipaq, since 2003 didn't support caller ID photos. I remember being able to choose between small pic, large pic, and fullscreen. I haven't tried the latest one yet, as the kaiser has photo caller ID support and I have different needs from yours, but I can't imagine that they would have removed that bit.
hope this helps
-=ADAM=-

I'm taking a look now, thank you. I must say, so far this looks like it solves at least part of the problem - the incoming call feature is *exactly* what I was wanting.
Much appreciated
Now I guess I just need a better dialler application of some kind. I'd like a full screen dialler, with *nothing* D) on it aside from
(a) Numbers
(b) a button for accessing contacts.
I hate having to use a fingernail to hit a teeny little 'contacts' button - if I'm in the car or walking, I want to feel like I'm using a phone, not something I need a stylus for.
Any input most welcome.

the s2u2 slide to unlock program features a setting where you can also slide to answer. it also displays the contact picture in full screen when someone is calling. its large and easy to work with

Wlofea said:
Now I guess I just need a better dialler application of some kind. I'd like a full screen dialler, with *nothing* D) on it aside from
(a) Numbers
(b) a button for accessing contacts.
I hate having to use a fingernail to hit a teeny little 'contacts' button - if I'm in the car or walking, I want to feel like I'm using a phone, not something I need a stylus for.
Any input most welcome.
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try this FULL SCREEN DIALER ....
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-full-screen-dialer.html

Now I guess I just need a better dialler application of some kind. I'd like a full screen dialler, with *nothing* D) on it aside from
(a) Numbers
(b) a button for accessing contacts.
I hate having to use a fingernail to hit a teeny little 'contacts' button - if I'm in the car or walking, I want to feel like I'm using a phone, not something I need a stylus for.
Any input most welcome.
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I enjoy MinimalDialer. Big Buttons. Easy to Tweak.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395086

Dialer Fix

I often describe my Fuze as a great PPC but lousy phone. My biggest complaint is the dialer. The biggest issues are the keys being too small and the keys blacking out during a call.
I have installed Nosleep and TouchInCallScreenTweak with mixed results.
I few months back I saw a post on Iconsoft Phone Extension and ignored it as it cost $. I saw a post again on it the other day about the release version and tried it. I may be hooked. It has Dialer, Contacts, Call History, and Favorites tabs and is pretty customizable. The best thing though is the dialer. You can actually dial a # key, credit card number, etc., while in a call. The keys are large enough so I don't mis-dial too.
It is worth the two week free trial. For me, I think I'm going to spend the $25 to keep it.
It's here:
http://iconsoft.com/?language=en&menu=ab6edc6b63d1a291
and NO, I don't work for them.

You sure you don't work for em?
Saw the exact same post on the at&t forums site.
Oh, now I see why LOL......I'd do it to, if it would save me 25 bucks
You can get an Iconsoft Phone Extension license in several ways:
* Post 5 new topics on the subject of Iconsoft PhonEx on Internet forums dedicated to the relevant subject, with a link to www.iconsoft.com
or
* Post 1 video on YouTube, telling of the advantages of the Iconsoft PhonEx + 2 new topics on forums dedicated to the relevant subject, with a link to www.iconsoft.com
or
* Publish positive article on a resource dedicated to the relevant subject, with a link to www.iconsoft.com

I paid my $25
and thought I would share. If you would like, I'll attach my PayPal receipt.

Iconsoft 1.4 is absolutely awesome I'm using it with energy ROM 6.5, because original HTC dialer conflicts with WM 6.5. That's the way, how should look contact's application And 25 usd isn't very expansive

I have to say, when I tried it out, I thought it looked quite nice, although I'm not sure it gave me much more than the standard dialer for my use. However, although I didn't seem to be able to uninstall it (so be careful of that, if you are just trying it out), it did work with my Touch Incall Screen Tweak as long as you got it to switch the screen off during a call in the first place. If you don't do that, it seemed to prevent the screen being switched off completely, and just allowed it to be dimmed.
Cheers,
Steve.

With version 1.4 and some alternative skins available, I am now very satisfied with its function. I especially like the the fact a Speakerphone button is available and you can get the Keyboard back in view easily if you have to enter a digit to do something.
It is a shame people get flamed for talking about it. Iconsoft's marketing ploy was a dumb move but the product is has made my Fuze finally usable as a phone.
For those that want to try it, search for it. I'd post the link but then I'll get flamed again. I've attached a screen capture of the Dialer. The new skins come in Red and Green too.

does iconsoft phonex 1.4 allow th call recording feature? (ICR) thx.

There is another alternative which in my view is better. I have tried both extensively.
Take a look here: www.inesoft.com and look at Phone 4.
I have been using Inesoft Phone 4 for quite some time. It works great with 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5. I would not run any phone without it. In fact, I bought 2 licenses for the same phone, but that is a different story.
Be advised however, that the great big buttons you see for dialing are only available when you start the call. Once the call is connected, the normal system dialer is what is available. So if you have to check your office voicemail for instance, you can start the call with the big buttons, but once connected, you will be back to the small standard system dialer buttons. Not a problem for me as almost everything is on speed dial.
Even with that flaw, this is a great app. I can honestly say that I think it is the most well though out application from a users perspective that I have ever seen on the WM platform. They have a generous trial. Give it a try and you will see what I mean. Be sure to fill the first page of Favorites and you will notice that it automatically creates another one. Also, look how easy they made it to rename your favorite buttons. Lots of little things that show how much attention they pay to details.
Oh, one other thing, it has never crashed or caused any problems on my phone in about 9-12 months of use. Now that I think about it, it is kind of embarrassing, but in this time period, I have used 3 different phones (eTen G500+, x500 & Fuze) all with the same great results from this app.
Happy trials.
Doug M.

Have you tried inesoft to compare the phone 4? I hear that's good as well. I can't seem to figure out how to add favorites. Does yours work in WM 6.5?

One question for the inesoft Phone 4.
Does it have a slider for answering calls or only press buttons?

1999TL said:
Have you tried inesoft to compare the phone 4? I hear that's good as well. I can't seem to figure out how to add favorites. Does yours work in WM 6.5?
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I figured this out. When I went into contacts, I would press the favorite button. This just brought me back to the favorite menu. In the contacts, you have to select the contact, then press "edit", then add favorite.

Contacts Changer
I've had this program for a while. When you add contacts to WM there backwards unless you put them the other way.This app will swap them back.
Each time you add a new contact run contact changer and swaps them. Used it on my 8525 and now my fuze. I'm not for sure where i got it but theres a website at the bottom of the app of who ever made it to give credit.
Thought some body else might want it. Didn't want to start a new thread

An unstated feature of 1.4 is that it adds back the BT status icon to the Taskbar. The BT status indicators are called by the HTC Dialer. Took me along time to finally figure that out. Using the WM6 or other alternative dialers nukes them. PhonEx adds them back though BT Discoverable does not have a separate icon. I think the status icon is a must as my Fuze provides no other clues that BT is On. I don't want BT left On when on Battery.
PhonEx also plays nice with PocketShield although you must tweak their redundant features. PocketShield is a great app that disables unintended button presses while fumbling with your phone as it comes out of your pocket, case, purse, or wherever you carry it.
Adding NoSleepRaphael and TouchInCallScreenTweak has finally tamed my unruly Fuze.
My great PPC but lousy phone is now much better. Downside is having to pay bucks to get a workable phone that wasn't cheap in the first place.

I have been using iconsoft PhoneEx for a while and think it is handdown the best dialer I have ever seen.. The search function for contacts (I have 100's) work smooth and easy, the full screen cid and slide up to answer are all great.. The only 2 complaints I have are you can not reject a call with a text message, and i am seeing some conflicts with the standard MS dialer using NRG's ROM but all in all it makes using the phone much easier to use..
Has anyone else seen the conflicts with MS dialer (usually upon hanging up a call) or missing a call...

I'm using the stock AT&T Fuze ROM. PocketShield shows the MS Dialer enabled by PhonEx. I am not seeing conflicts but then the Fuze always seems finicky. I have learned to live, maybe tolerate is a better word, with it.
Phonex is very solid right now making me scared of a new version.

only press buttons. i have used both quite a bit and must say phonex is much better imo. i find inesoft to be visually ugly and not very responsive. scrolling is not nearly as smooth as phonex.
just my .02

Kaiser junkie

I love my Kaiser, I will not trade it in for a Fuze. I am however set back with questions unanswered. I'll enlighten you.....
1) I have been using an app called "Where is My Phone". I love this app. There is a certain feature I am quite curious about that acts as a macro. When you SMS the phone with a certain command as the text, it triggers a macro to work. This is very interesting to me. I am aware that there is a program running in the background to check for such a text request, but my question is, are there other programs out there that will let you run your own macros on such a text requests???
2) I am also running the Inesoft program on my phone. I absolutely love the dialer, however, once the dialer has been used and a call is placed, the default dialer pops up... very sad since I havn't been able to find a dialer skin that I like. (yes, I have searched everywhere and found them all) Is there a way to set the inesoft dialer as the default dialer on my Kaiser? This would be very useful, because I cant just tap and hold the "1" button on my inesoft dialer to activate retrieving my phones voicemail messages.
This forum is my lifeline to the outside world when it comes to my Phone and i thank you all in advance.

uhm as for your first question, I'm not too sure if I can answer it. I do use an app called mobliza that runs in the background. it's basically like an away message program for SMS. it also has a feature that allows it to carry on a conversation with people who text you. go to tiltmobility.com to find the download.
as for your second question, I don't think there is any way to make it your default dialer unless it's cooked into a ROM.

actually, my first question looks confusing... what i want to do is get my phone to perform actions when i sms it. if you look at "where is my phone", its an app that sends you the gps coords, with a google maps hyperlink of your cell phones location when you send it a certain text.
As for part 2, I guess Ill just cross my fingers and hope someone cooks up a rom. thats the best dialer skin ive seen. finger friendly, big, plain, simple.....

viol8tion said:
As for part 2, I guess Ill just cross my fingers and hope someone cooks up a rom. thats the best dialer skin ive seen. finger friendly, big, plain, simple.....
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I do not think xda allows roms with commercial software in the forums, as this would be considered warez, unless they just include the shareware version, which would be useless as it requires you to purchase after trial period. Maybe you can download a kitchen and integrate the software into your rom, shouldn't be that difficult.

You could provide the software to the chef of your favorite rom and ask him kindly to brew it in for you. As long as the software are fully available for download its no problem adding it to any rom. Reason why its not done are that people have to buy to fully take advantage of the software and no chef is going to force something like that on you. There has been payware on certain rom from some of the most known chef`s in here, but its very rare and if so its because the software been brand new or killing good.
The thought of brew this in case the device is stolen by someone are good. Cause if the thief are not an advance user chance of getting it back are good even after a hard reset

I used to use inesoft address book and if I can remember correctly, there is a setting where you can make the dialer and history the default.

viol8tion said:
I love my Kaiser, I will not trade it in for a Fuze. I am however set back with questions unanswered. I'll enlighten you.....
1) I have been using an app called "Where is My Phone". I love this app. There is a certain feature I am quite curious about that acts as a macro. When you SMS the phone with a certain command as the text, it triggers a macro to work. This is very interesting to me. I am aware that there is a program running in the background to check for such a text request, but my question is, are there other programs out there that will let you run your own macros on such a text requests???
2) I am also running the Inesoft program on my phone. I absolutely love the dialer, however, once the dialer has been used and a call is placed, the default dialer pops up... very sad since I havn't been able to find a dialer skin that I like. (yes, I have searched everywhere and found them all) Is there a way to set the inesoft dialer as the default dialer on my Kaiser? This would be very useful, because I cant just tap and hold the "1" button on my inesoft dialer to activate retrieving my phones voicemail messages.
This forum is my lifeline to the outside world when it comes to my Phone and i thank you all in advance.
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yup, i think i came across that program, where you text your mobile with predefined commands and when your cell picks it up it runs the application or script. One thing i forgot the name, but i think its freeware, if my poor memory serves me right. Damn, anyway it stays on your homescreen, just a small icon on the lower part.
The developers also programmed the location based application launcher based on what cell radio tower you are on.

App Request... WILL PAY

I know I'm not the only one looking for but a full screen caller id. So when a call comes in it covers the full screen, with the options on screen of answering, silent, or streight to VM. I know my self will donate and believe others will as well. So when a call comes in the picture of said person would cover up full screen. Not sure why there isn't one yet

That actually sounds like a nice idea... would love the on-screen selection.. I doubt you would be able to get the callers pic stretched full screen since pics are stored in google's database and I believe they are resized, I could be wrong tho.. I would pay as well

I read somewhere this app can't be done right now. There is nothing in the current SDK that allows to hook anything to the action started by the incoming call.
Maybe someone who knows more about the Android SDK could ellaborate on this...

The White Pages Caller ID app, seems to have no problem catching an incoming call event and displaying a custom view tat shows caller information. Of course, there may not be any way to interact and block, answer, etc... from any screen other than the default incoming call screen, though I am not positive.

Just try hero.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522076 - JACMan Hero 1.6
You should just try one of the hero builds, the dialer, contacts, are much nicer, htc totally streamlined the look of the standard apps(dialer, htc chirp, even the clock!)
The answer screen is almost exactly what you're looking for I'm sure. The pic isn't full screen, but the incoming call notification is full screen, you have answer decline right on the screen and hero even has a function(that I can't get to work) that it'll send out a standard rejection sms when you hit decline. The roms aren't 100% stable yet, but don't use the rosie.apk(disable the default in app mgnt) and you're well on your way to a pleasurable calling experience.
Later Tater.

kylelipp said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522076 - JACMan Hero 1.6
You should just try one of the hero builds, the dialer, contacts, are much nicer, htc totally streamlined the look of the standard apps(dialer, htc chirp, even the clock!)
The answer screen is almost exactly what you're looking for I'm sure. The pic isn't full screen, but the incoming call notification is full screen, you have answer decline right on the screen and hero even has a function(that I can't get to work) that it'll send out a standard rejection sms when you hit decline. The roms aren't 100% stable yet, but don't use the rosie.apk(disable the default in app mgnt) and you're well on your way to a pleasurable calling experience.
Later Tater.
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Not really feeling the Hero on the G1 wont ever be stable enough thanks though.

imbonez9 said:
Not really feeling the Hero on the G1 wont ever be stable enough thanks though.
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The Rogers Rom (magic) has a bigger picture for incoming and out going and is VERY fast and stable.

I know a few people that will pay for an app like that (including myself). I'd love to see this developed.

yea ive asked about this before as well. and i agree, not feeling to well on hero port to g1. this would be a great ap, id def donate

I don't see why its not possible since my crappy TREO 750 did it, with a resistive screen to boot (not that it really matters)

Custom Dialer request (Stargate w/ pics)

I was wondering if it was possible for anyone to make a dialer to replace the existing one that looks like the Dial Home Device seen on the television show Stargate SG-1. I noticed that there is an iPhone app and was hoping that maybe someone could make one, since I haven't the clue as to how they are made. Any responses are appreciated. Thanks.

Can you get a picture? It may just be a matter of skinning the default dialer.

Obviously the number of symbols is > 0-9 on a regular number pad. I could be cool, but I don't know if it is possible software wise. If someone knows it's physically possible, PM me and I could contribute some art. I would just need the specs because I've only made icons for the g1.

Here are the pictures
This is the one from the iPhone. The first one is when you're dialing. The second one is when you press send to connect the call and is active. The stargate in the backround has the wormhole active. I don't expect the background to do that like it does on the iPhone, but if it was somehow possible, that would be awesome. Hope this helps. Thanks once again.

otto888 said:
Can you get a picture? It may just be a matter of skinning the default dialer.
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Oh yeah, that's a good idea. Pics are now posted. thanks

This sounds like a great idea..

Looks nice, but seems a little crowded to place all the numbers side by side like that, but maybe it will work.
I only mention it because I sometimes mis-dial with the current keypad, which only has 3 numbers across.
: )

outsider787 said:
Looks nice, but seems a little crowded to place all the numbers side by side like that, but maybe it will work.
I only mention it because I sometimes mis-dial with the current keypad, which only has 3 numbers across.
: )
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I haven't had that problem with the dialer. I have with text messaging. But i don't think the numbers will be smaller than the letters on the soft keyboard. I would be fine with that. I just want something different from what most have. And I love stargate and when I saw that I just had to have it, but I don't have a clue how to do it, so that's why I ask for help

So...
Does anyone even know if something like this would be close to possible?

Yeah something like this is possible, I bet it would take a while to render the wormhole unless it used the openGL api. You just have to find a dev willing to put in the time for it. Maybe you can ask a dev in the marketplace that already does custom stuff with the dialer (ben or dan, MGeek, ZacCom)

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Yeah something like this is possible, I bet it would take a while to render the wormhole unless it used the openGL api. You just have to find a dev willing to put in the time for it. Maybe you can ask a dev in the marketplace that already does custom stuff with the dialer (ben or dan, MGeek, ZacCom)
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Thanks everyone I appreciate all the help. I will see where I can go from here.

Tools needed?
Ive been looking at this idea too.
Basically, as having the phone make chevron dialing noises is mostly for the novelty of watching people around you giving you weird looks, im going to see if some of the 'simpler' programming tools programs for WM/Android (as a friend has a Dream) to chuck togheter a "select person, then just make dialing sounds" (simple-er) or a "select person, then highlight in an order a bunch of chevrons to hit based on a person name -> numbers formula" (interactive)
I dont really mind having a complex dialing tool, only something that makes it look like you are hitting a whole bunch of chevrons and sounds, with the end result being someone dialed.
I'll have a screwaround in the not so distant future and see what rubbish i spit out; if it turns into anything usable i guess extra complexity can be added.