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Folks lets try to get a listing of software that you may belive that causes problems with Molski's Rom. I think this will be benifical for newer users to be able to go to one place and see all of the software that we have experienced problems with so they do not have to.
If at all possible for every program that we list as a problem I would like to have an alternative.
From my experience.....
O2 sms plus (for mass sms messages) causes a problem with the native SMS software. It has been known to prevent you from reciving or send sms messages. I am currently hunting for another program but I have not had any luck.
Thanks to all the Chefs that keep us in some great ROMs, keep em comming!
I think we all know SPB time does not work...and man if you install it just go ahead and do a hard reset.
SPB time is one of my FAVORITES but if you want to keep the rom do not install it.
After installing my 8125 got so hung up I couldn't even do a hard reset...I had to reflash from bootloader.
pocketbreeze does the same thing
Sun'n'moon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1090597&postcount=266
This is very strange I have been using this rom since it came out with out the autofill or the calender giving me any type of problem. What other software are you running?
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Not running any other software, only what came default with Molski's ROM.
I hate when I need to Add recipient manually every time I start writing SMS's.
Second big issue for me is, that I cant get QWERTZ-keyboard to work with this ROM. I'm finnish, so I need to use scandinavian letters alot almost in every SMS.
My plans for year 2007 are open, so calendar aint so big deal - but i'm still using latest Active Sync and still cant get it to syncronize past meetings.
I encountered problems with clock and date resetting after every time while takeing out battery. Also device stops responding randomly after some time of working in standby mode and nothing except taking battery out is making it to soft reset. But the second problem might be caused by programs I'm using... Do you have similar problems?
KFi said:
Not running any other software, only what came default with Molski's ROM.
I hate when I need to Add recipient manually every time I start writing SMS's.
Second big issue for me is, that I cant get QWERTZ-keyboard to work with this ROM. I'm finnish, so I need to use scandinavian letters alot almost in every SMS.
My plans for year 2007 are open, so calendar aint so big deal - but i'm still using latest Active Sync and still cant get it to syncronize past meetings.
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Try going through the whole cid unlocking again and use the tmobile 2.26 rom then install Molski's rom again. Let me know what happens.
shamus said:
I encountered problems with clock and date resetting after every time while takeing out battery. Also device stops responding randomly after some time of working in standby mode and nothing except taking battery out is making it to soft reset. But the second problem might be caused by programs I'm using... Do you have similar problems?
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I have had this happen with the time and date going back to June 7th once I took the battery. I don't take the battery normaly so I just reset the time. Why is this a problem?
The system lockup is most likely software related, but what other software are you running. If possible I would try to reflash the Rom and install spb backup and backup after you install all the software that comes with the Rom that you use. Then install each additional software and due what you would normaly due when it locks up. If it works then backup again and so on and so on till you narrow the problem down.
This is what I do and it works for me but if there is an easier way that someone knows of please let us know.
This is the whole reason that I started this thread so we can learn from each others problems.
Hey guys I am new to the forum and I just did my first flash to my wizzard and I used this new 3.2 rom. I must say its amazing but I am having problems it keeps turning on by its self when I put it in suspend and the battery dies very fast and the phone book wont let me look up any names that start with V. Can you guys help me out with some advice?
For "Sun'n'moon" application, you can replace by "WeatherPanel" (www.marsware.net) very powerfull.
On my Wizard, 2 problems:
- Prssreader is not compatible with AKU3.2, when installed the phone boot crash.
Today, I don't have found better or equal rss reader software: --> please help me if you know better!!!!
- I don't like clock or date on my task bar, I want to remove it with "RegistryWizard" but when I choose "None" and restart, the sound and network icons are hidden by something: --> Can you help me too????
Molski's Rom is very fast when booting and is not too tunned! (good!!!). Thanks Molski for your work!!!
great rom so far only one minor prob.
1) no pRssReader. the today plugin causes a reboot. no big deal. must be badly written sw.
newbie2369 said:
Hey guys I am new to the forum and I just did my first flash to my wizzard and I used this new 3.2 rom. I must say its amazing but I am having problems it keeps turning on by its self when I put it in suspend and the battery dies very fast and the phone book wont let me look up any names that start with V. Can you guys help me out with some advice?
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Gents 1st off lets stay on the topic.
Dude you must learn to use the search this issue has been addressed by others. Go the Main Molski 3.0.0.0 thread and look in there. If you still cant find it email me and I will help you the best I can.
ed_bracam said:
For "Sun'n'moon" application, you can replace by "WeatherPanel" (www.marsware.net) very powerfull.
On my Wizard, 2 problems:
- Prssreader is not compatible with AKU3.2, when installed the phone boot crash.
Today, I don't have found better or equal rss reader software: --> please help me if you know better!!!!
- I don't like clock or date on my task bar, I want to remove it with "RegistryWizard" but when I choose "None" and restart, the sound and network icons are hidden by something: --> Can you help me too????
Molski's Rom is very fast when booting and is not too tunned! (good!!!). Thanks Molski for your work!!!
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I haven't used the prssreader as of yet but this also came up with Jose's AKU3.2 rom. We have to see what the gods sugest on that one.
Can you take a screen shot so I can see what your talking about?
Its the weekend so I will be working in my nite life bussiness so give me a few days. to respond. Or see if someone else can help as well.
KFi said:
Second big issue for me is, that I cant get QWERTZ-keyboard to work with this ROM. I'm finnish, so I need to use scandinavian letters alot almost in every SMS.
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Try these cabs... Works fine for me (swedish)
ed_bracam said:
- Prssreader is not compatible with AKU3.2, when installed the phone boot crash.
Today, I don't have found better or equal rss reader software: --> please help me if you know better!!!!
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I've attached a copy of Qmail. It handles RSS feeds nicely. It will also handle email. Basically, its a Japanese version of Outlook Express. Good thing is that the program is written in English. But, there is NO documentation in English. You'll have to figure out how to make it work on your own.
There is not setup. Just unzip it and copy it to your storage card. Then just run the "q3u.exe" program.
Can not use slide-out keyboard for cyrillic characters
Guys,
The rom is great! Molski, Faria - thank you very much.
The biggest problem for me is that I can not type Cyrillic characters using the slide-out keyboard. The standard way to set it up (by setting \\HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\Locale) - does not work with this ROM.
Any suggestions would be very appreciated.
Hey man, It will not so bad.
Do you get back you backup by SPB Backup? The backuping programs sometimes damage devices GSM. Tray Hard reset and than it will be IMHO OK
I dont belive, that that ROM is such unusefull like you write.
vippie said:
You point the wrong way, I think it's more a cingular issue. I'm very glad with Molski's roms until now. They work perfectly fine overhere.
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Howdy. I just want to make sure I read this correctly. So, you have T-Mobile (from your profile) and Molski's ROM 3.0.0.0 and you have not lost -any- calls/VM Notifications at all? I mean, it took me a few days to realize I was missing calls (when people started complaining at me thinking I was screening).
I am in Cingular, and if you are not missing calls (please, try to make sure as accurately as you can...) do report back, as this would be a huge pointer and there are quite a few of us stuck with this awesome ROM.
[btw: I LOVE this ROM and have no plans to go back... we all just need to figure this one out]
RE: the topic of this thread, this ROM seems 100% stable for me, battery usage and all. The actual thread for the radio/missed calls is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287087
Voice Command 1.5
Cant say if it was directly related to the ROM, but Voice Command 1.5 would work for all but contacts and phone. If Contacts or Phone were enabled, VC 1.5 would fail to start.
Upgrade to VC 1.6 solved problem, and 1.6 is waaay better anyway.
Thanks, Molski for this ROM, I'm lovin it.
tharryman said:
Cant say if it was directly related to the ROM, but Voice Command 1.5 would work for all but contacts and phone. If Contacts or Phone were enabled, VC 1.5 would fail to start.
Upgrade to VC 1.6 solved problem, and 1.6 is waaay better anyway.
Thanks, Molski for this ROM, I'm lovin it.
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This is a compatability issue due to the fact that the Contacts Database was changed in AKU 3.x
Here's the TMO Wing original ROM with TouchFlo added. After the screen alignment, the TMO customization app will run but it doesn't install anything. Give your phone some time to initially startup after the install before trying the TouchFlo. Use at your own risk. Thanks to the PDAVIET team for the install process, anichillus for the kitchen And I think??? Tom Love ??? for the TouchFlo process itself. If I've used something of someone else's. I'm sorry, let me know and I'll remove it.
http://rapidshare.com/files/55254155/Wing_OEM_With_TouchFlo.zip
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Here's the TMO Wing original ROM with TouchFlo added. After the screen alignment, the TMO customization app will run but it doesn't install anything. Give your phone some time to initially startup after the install before trying the TouchFlo. Use at your own risk. Thanks to the PDAVIET team for the install process, anichillus for the kitchen And I think??? Tom Love ??? for the TouchFlo process itself. If I've used something of someone else's. I'm sorry, let me know and I'll remove it.
http://rapidshare.com/files/55254155...h_TouchFlo.zip
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the linky is broke ...
watcher64 said:
the linky is broke ...
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Fixed. Thanks
this is specially made for the wing?
Smilez_c said:
this is specially made for the wing?
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apparently so ... the files downloaded are "WING OEM with TouchFlo"
mmm I'll have to try it later cuz right now i have the Touch-IT,WWE v1.1 UPDATED 10.09.07 I wonder if any significant difference
ok guys im giving it a try.... wish me luck ...
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ok guys im giving it a try.... wish me luck ...
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good luck............
Bad luck so far ......
looking at a bootloader screen and nothing else ...
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Here's the TMO Wing original ROM with TouchFlo added. After the screen alignment, the TMO customization app will run but it doesn't install anything. Give your phone some time to initially startup after the install before trying the TouchFlo. Use at your own risk. Thanks to the PDAVIET team for the install process, anichillus for the kitchen And I think??? Tom Love ??? for the TouchFlo process itself. If I've used something of someone else's. I'm sorry, let me know and I'll remove it.
http://rapidshare.com/files/55254155/Wing_OEM_With_TouchFlo.zip
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I will try this rom now. But I still think that it is only included the TouchFlo, not the others app?
Is it possible if you cook a new rom based on the Wing OS like the version HERALD_WM6.0_4.17.07.12.PV? I have tried the Touch IT already but it could not compare with the .12.PV in general.
The biggest problem now is keyboard of Wing, it is different than 4350's keyboard. So if we can get the new rom with Wing OS, it is the best!
Thanks in advance!
Downloading now :] from the wifi across the street, this might take a while...
Please post asap guys how this works.
There are several questions I have:
Does this include ANY extra software?
if it doesnt include ANY, then is there a TF manager at least like touchflo 1.1?
Does this have the 6mb page pool applied to it?
It's the base tmob ruu, with touchflo. not bad but still way up on the mem usage since its the official ruu
i got it to install okay but i can't get touchflo started. there are no tf settings. it replaces the left soft key. some of the issues i read about before are apparent like clicking the "x" opens the right soft key.
reinstalling something else. GREAT JOB though and thanks for making this. i'll check it out again next release.
TF Settings are in the Programs Folder. It has the original page pool but, the quick page pool changer will still work. One thing I did notice though, the TF settings aren't checked but it does work for me. If it's not working, open the TF Settings and check 'Enable cube' and 'Enable Scroll'. Also set 'View mode' to 'TF default v4.1'. I'd hate to slim down the ROM and have it missing something that a lot of people use. If you want to customize the cube, open \Windows\BioTouch Settings. I will definitely be fixing a few things so post suggestions here. Don't expect any changes until next week though.
i couldn't find the settings dialouge in any folder. i went into the programs folder where all the programs are usually located (in the start menu) and then into all the subfolders, and couldn't find the settings. They were also not in the program files folder that i reached through file explorer.
Strange. it's all there for me. When I get home I'll flash back to the original RUU. Then reflash my version. Thanks for your input.
Almost the T-Mo ROM with Touch settings
Well it's almost what it says it is. Everything is there except for the basic T-Mo apps like Hotspot log-in, T-Zones and My5. Which isn't a bad thing becuase I don't use any of them, however it is the missing IM program, but again no big deal because that's available in th the forums here. All in all, so far I'm impressed.
is the keyboard layout correct??..other then that there will be no other reason to switch because some how i kept all my t-mobile files when i flashed to the touch it rom
Just a question. When i reflash, i normally cut out the customizing part. Is the touch-flo function a component of the "Customizing" function after a hard reset?
Ok guys, as I promised im releasing my final rom
EDIT: I added a RUU_signed.nbh as seperate download, its the full cube version, but beware, its only for those who have updatet their device
with hard-spl, for more info, scroll down to bottom of this post.
But please read
Dont do this:
Questions on why stuff has been removed, and why I didnt do this or that.
Questions related to ppl using WING, TERRA and other Herald devices then P4350.
Questions on other languages, there will be no other languages released
Remarks about disliking stuff in the rom, and w/e..I dont care what you like or not.
Remarks on that previous roms are worse/better then this one
Remarks on that some ppls recooked versions of my roms are better.
Stick to posting about what is in the rom, not what is left out.
Dont ask how to flash this, its in the Touch-IT folder as a read me.
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Ok this is final version of WWE Herald P4350 based on kaiser OS build 18125.0.4.2
No screens, there is no big diffrence in apperance.
You get 3 versions
Full with Touchflo and the cube
Full 2 with Touchflo and no cube
Lite with TouchFlo and no cube etc
This is whats in them:
Full:
Touchflo w/cube
TF-Settings
Touchflo settings 1.22
HTC Home 2.0.814.722
Comm Manager 6 tabs
RomSettings
ArcSoft MMS 4.2.8.1
Battery Status 218
Glossy Black Bars
Hibernate
HTC Network Wizard
HTC X Button 1.5
HTC Album
HTC TouchDialer
Magic SS
PIM Backup 2.5
SMS Backup
Total Commander 2
Touch-IT skin to WMP
Adobe Flash Lite
Full 2:
Same as Full, but without:
TF-settings
Touchsettings 1.22
Cube
Lite:
Touchflo, no cube
Comm Manager 6 tabs
ArcSoft MMS 4.2.8.1
HTC X Button 1.5
HTC TouchDialer
Removed from all roms:
Transcriber
Live messenger
Unusefull gifs, but some are still in
Ringtones
Default themes
jpgs
pngs
htc regedits
Tweaks
Disable sms sent
Today items removed (Not calendar)
Sliding sound off
Backlight set to 25 on keyboard
Hide SIM contacts to avoid duplicates
Security set to OFF
And other tweaks, but thats Touch-IT secrets
NOTE:
I dont have the p4350 anymore, so I could not test the roms with touchflo and no cube.
But they should work
Instructions how to upgrade is in the Touch-IT folder.
READ IT.
If you dont, you will spend even more time infront of your computer flashing the official ruu before trying again, why waste time, use 1 min to read and understand.
Remember:
If you dont like what I have added, or what I have removed or w/e please dont spam this thread with lame comments.
Disclaimer:
I take NO responsebility if you brick your device, if you do search the forums before you come flaming me/us here at XDA.
IF you brick your phone (Brick=the phone can be used as a building brick, or maybe a paperweight? Because you cant start it up.) Its no others fault but your own.
Mainly the reason for bricking a phone is:
1. Not reading the instructions good enough
2. Not following the instructions.
3. Not having a RUU that can unbrick the phone (the official installer with the official rom for your specific phone, with your phones default language. In.ex if yu have a german phone by default, you need a german RUU, if not you will get invalid vendor error)
4. Not reading the instructions good enough..again
5. Not following the instructions...again
If you dont understand after reading CAREFULLY, then dont bother flash your device with this or any other rom.
Download:
Sendspace
Megaupload
DOWNLOAD RUU_SIGNED.NBH - ONLY FOR PPL WHO HAS UPDATED THEIR DEVICE WITH HARD-SPL, FOUND HERE
DO NOT SPLIT UP AND POST THIS PACKAGE IN SEPERATE FILES.
Wow, dude. Awesome. And just in time for me buying my P4350 monday (or tuesday possibly). Not having tried flashing before (but already having read the instructions several times, even though I haven't actually got a phone to do anything on), I don't know the quality of your roms - yet I presume from what I have read that they are quite good indeed.
So thanks for your work on the roms, even though the P4350 isn't exactly new.
Just out of curiosity, is it WM5 or WM6 it's built upon? I can't seem to locate that fact anywhere in your post, but I might have overlooked it for some mysterious reason.
EDIT: It seems I was a bit too quick to post the latter about me not finding the information. I googled a bit and it seems that Kaiser OS of that build mentioned above is indeed WM6. So I guess I answered my question myself
EDIT 2: First (or well, second), I guess?
glad to hear that you're still doing work for us. I can't wait to put this on my phone.
thanks mucho.
debdrup said:
Just out of curiosity, is it WM5 or WM6 it's built upon?
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ITJE said:
...OS build 18125.0.4.2
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from that, i'd gather that it's WM6. Same as Toutch-IT 2.3
At last!
I am so excited while dowloading the files.
This is the best way for saying bye!
Itje, we will certainly miss you.
Regards,
when the german translation will come?
mxstyles said:
when the german translation will come?
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never, there is a german version based on the official. There will be no other versions of german or other languages on this build
itje said:
never, there is a german version based on the official. There will be no other versions of german or other languages on this build
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well, i have flashed the german version, but i can't use the cube in this build.
can you say me how to use it?
mxstyles said:
well, i have flashed the german version, but i can't use the cube in this build.
can you say me how to use it?
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No
Stick to posting about this rom.
Dont reply to this, and dont post other stuff then about this rom.
thx
Hm, maybe this should be stickied. Easier to find it, as it seems to be the final version ever to be released.
I am however curious, itje. What if bugs pop up, will you be fixing those? Depending on their size and reach of the bug, of course.
hello itje,if i found a language pack french,with these release,work??
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hello itje,if i found a language pack french,with these release,work??
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Well, it might work. If you find a language pack that works on wm6 then it might. Why don't you try it out? Just make a backup, flash, see if it works, flash back to your current rom and restore your backup. I'm sure it can't be that hard.
UAHUUUUU
I love the "READ ME-How To Upgrade" file
I love the new (light coloured) splashcreen and theme
I love everything man!
It is dumb saying so since it is the last version but this is the best release!
Installation went smooth! I really hope that this time everybody reads carefully the readme file since the package has the select OS feature.
Itje, come back to the herald whenever you want. I read somewhere that kaiser was way worse than Herald... I would think it twice
Great rom itje... I've founda little bug that becomes annoying when using CommManager: when I try to slect Settings -> Wireless lan nothing happens :?
BRSG said:
Great rom itje... I've founda little bug that becomes annoying when using CommManager: when I try to slect Settings -> Wireless lan nothing happens :?
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I dont know what cause that, I used this rom before I sold my herald. And I used wireless lan settings with it.
Weather problem fixed
tesorero said:
I love the "READ ME-How To Upgrade" file
I love the new (light coloured) splashcreen and theme
I love everything man!
It is dumb saying so since it is the last version but this is the best release!
Installation went smooth! I really hope that this time everybody reads carefully the readme file since the package has the select OS feature.
Itje, come back to the herald whenever you want. I read somewhere that kaiser was way worse than Herald... I would think it twice
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Kaiser way worse? Never heard sutch bull****
My tytn2 is the best device/phone I ever held in my hands.
So does this rom have the keyboard and stuff working correctly? I think it was a problem in the past, if I remember right. Just curious because I just had to hard reset my phone because it's being stupid, so if this rom is (close to) bug free, I will probably flash to this instead.
mikeybags said:
So does this rom have the keyboard and stuff working correctly? I think it was a problem in the past, if I remember right. Just curious because I just had to hard reset my phone because it's being stupid, so if this rom is (close to) bug free, I will probably flash to this instead.
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If you have a P4350, and its default language is english. There is no issue
What messed up with soft keyboard was the softkeyboard from touch dual, and I didnt include it in this release.
If you want it, get the cab. The same applies to other programs that ppl wants that is not in this release.
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If you have a P4350, and its default language is english. There is no issue
What messed up with soft keyboard was the softkeyboard from touch dual, and I didnt include it in this release.
If you want it, get the cab. The same applies to other programs that ppl wants that is not in this release.
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To be honest I don't really know what touch dual is, so I'm sure I could do without it. I've been running the regular t-mobile rom with just the page pool change and a few programs (htc home, etc), and suddenly started getting this problem where my send button didn't work right and my phone would make some weird noises. I just did a hard reset and it seems to have fixed that, so while I'm at it I might as well add a nice new rom.
I know you've been working on roms for quite a while here, and I was holding off because of not wanting to re-do everything, but now since I had to start fresh, I might as well add something like this.
Thanks for all of the hard work you put into this stuff. I'm definitely going to give it a try.
mikeybags said:
To be honest I don't really know what touch dual is, so I'm sure I could do without it. I've been running the regular t-mobile rom with just the page pool change and a few programs (htc home, etc), and suddenly started getting this problem where my send button didn't work right and my phone would make some weird noises. I just did a hard reset and it seems to have fixed that, so while I'm at it I might as well add a nice new rom.
I know you've been working on roms for quite a while here, and I was holding off because of not wanting to re-do everything, but now since I had to start fresh, I might as well add something like this.
Thanks for all of the hard work you put into this stuff. I'm definitely going to give it a try.
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so when you got the t-mobile version, I assume you got the wing?
Hi everyone, I am new to windows mobile, phones. Can anyone help guide me to information on installing software on the device, I have found and downloaded the TomTom 6 taster, file name ttn_6_032_HTCWWE_Kaiser.cab. but then i try to install on the device i get the following error message......unable to install application. Please update your device rom to the required version before trying again.
I Have also succesfully installed iPhone_Version1.cab and the netcf.core.ppc3.arm.cab but when i try to run iPhone the error message A Managed file not found exception occured at error::WinIOerror+0x60 .
All the help anyone can give me will be greatly appreciated....
I look forward to receiving some replies.
My Device System details are:
Phone supplied by O2 UK
Rom version 1.82.206.1 WWE
Rom Date 10/04/07
Radio Version 1.27.12.29
Protocol Version 22.45.88.07H
Please spend time reading this section of the forum!
than use this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
to hardspl and update your radio and "This tool will allow you to change the ROM language, flash cooked ROMs, custom splash screens, etc..."
than find suitable rom to upgrade your rom from kasier upgrading section
Good luck
Tunc
I'll think you'll find there is something encoded into the o2 standard ROM to prevent this working. I got the same thing when trying to install GPRS monitor (comes free on the o2 apps CD). I was trying to install the older version that I'd had on my HTC Universal (o2 Executive) since WM5 days so it can't be that the ROM is out of date since it worked on a 2+ year old ROM and later a WM6 ROM from the Universal section. Once I tried installing the GPRS monitor that came with the Stellar it was fine (same program wierdly, not sure about the version number).
Not sure if this helps in any way, but o2 may have got something on their ROM that prevents certain programs from loading, since they are pushing Co-Pilot it may be that they don't want you loading up TomTom. If you think this shouldn't be the case, just look at the way most Nokia's don't play well with other manufacturers bluetooth equipment, Nokia went and made the open bluetooth standard kinda proprietary, so why not o2 with their entire OS?!
I got TomTom to work, I think it as 6.030 rather than 6.032...will play around with it...but it does wor.
Anyway I had to do a hard reset and that package now says wrong ROM servsion or some thing.
Also, there are 3 icon on the bottom right hand corner, is this that taskbar?
If so does anyone know how to remove it or maybe add more icons to it?
thanks
hi i have sort of got the tom tom to work the application opens ok, but it cant find a sat, signal. has anyone any ideas
roks said:
there are 3 icon on the bottom right hand corner, is this that taskbar?
If so does anyone know how to remove it or maybe add more icons to it?
thanks
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Yes it's the task bar. I have no idea how to remove it ( I did this once with my old HTC phone and do you think I can find the instructions on this site as to how to do it?! ). If you search on HTC home or HTC homeplug, it should give you loads of posts about how people have added more to it. Personally I want rid just to get the extra screen space, so if you find out, please share!
For the GPS thing, make sure you are either outside, or near a window, it can take a while for that first fix. Is there a GPS status page on TomTom? If so, are you getting a signal from the GPS, just no satalite lock, or not even getting a signal?
Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
I know when I started looking into all this it just seemed like such a daunting task. There was so much information I just didn't know where to start. I looked and looked for a guide that would explain it all to me in one go but just couldn't find one. I had to read around for days trying to get all the information and tools needed to do it, then I had to experiment with lots of failures and swearing before I got the technique right.
It was only when a friend asked if I'd help him flash his M700 that I started to write a pretty detailed email for him. I then decided I'd post it here for you guys who are struggling because I know a few days ago I would have killed for something like this.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957 and download HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
You just have to plug the phone in so it connects and run the Auto_unlock_v1.bat and follow the prompts.
It'll put your phone into bootloader (the tri colour screen) then flash it with a new radio. It's a really early version of the radio (1.16...) but it doesn't matter cos we'll upgrade that later.
It'll turn itself off when it's done so you need to turn it back on but leave it plugged in.
Keep following the prompts and eventually, it'll ask you on the phone screen if you want to unlock it. Say yes to both.
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. This is the bit that took me ages cos finding the right one isn't too easy. I tried a couple but they wouldn't flash the radio then I heard about Olipro 1.20. I could only get hold of the latest version Olipro 1.30 and it took a while to track down an earlier copy. The latest 1.30 version doesn't work when flashing the 1.56 Radio so you need to have the 1.20 version.
Download the Olipro Hard SPL 1.2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=20 post #196
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
Again, make sure the phone is plugged in and connected and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe. It'll stick your phone in bootloader and do a little update that won't take long at all.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
WARNING! This will hard reset your phone right back to factory defaults after it's done, You need to ensure you've backed up all your numbers and files etc. You have been warned.
Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
This will take a little bit longer, it took about 5 mins to do the update on mine.
Once it's complete you will need to turn your phone on again. It will first of all display the version of ROM then for a brief moment it will flash the Radio version on the screen, if it says 1.56.70.11 then you've got it right, if not then you'll have to try another HARDSPL tool. Don't worry if you miss it cos you can always check it on the 'Settings | System | Device Information' tab.
4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. There is no 'One ROM to rule them all...' Everyone wants different things from their operating system and you just have to play around until you get one you like. Some people want all the fancy bells and whistles of Manila2D (Touchflo) from 6.1 or the fancy honey cone start menu that comes with 6.5. I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. If you just want to get it upgraded then try this one out to start with, then when you realise how easy it is you can flash away til your hearts content.
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758 You'll struggle to find a faster ROM out there. This is the 27017v2 which is one of the latest releases of WinMo6.5 out htere.
Connect the phone and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the folder. Follow the prompts as usual and after about 5 mins it should have finished.
Turn your phone back on and hey presto! you're up and running with WinMo6.5.
All you have to do is re-sync you phone and all your numbers are back then you're away.
See that wasn't too bad was it. All it took was a few days researching on the XDA forums and endless head scratching when things didn't work. I think most of that time was just because I was unsure exactly what to do and in what order. if I'd just had a guide like this to at least get me through once I'd have found it a lot easier. You should still go away and do the research into any software or ROM/Radio you want to use because the threads contain a lot of useful information.
NEVER post a questions until you've read the whole thread cos chances are it's already been answered.
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
It was made by a Polish guy so there are a couple of things set to Polish. You will have to change the regional settings in 'Settings | System | Regional Settings' back to the country of your origin.
Also the finger keyboard is set to Polish and he hasn't included any other languages. You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
It is quite a bare ROM so for that added little bit of BLING I added the S2U2 screen locking application. It basically gives you that little unlocking slider thingy from the iPhone (spit). Go to somewhere like http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/S2U2-52386.shtml to download the CAB and install it as normal.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
So that about wraps it up for this guide. I hope some of you total newbies find it a bit less daunting this way and will not be too scared to give other ROMs a try in the future, It's all about what you like and what you want out of your phone at the end of the day.
Please don't forget to donate some money to the chefs (especially Tomme45i) for all thier hard work if you appreciate their product. It doesn't have to be loads even if its only a pound or two. If everyone does it it mounts up. A happy chef is a chef who gets paid and releases lots of fixes/upgrades.
Do I have to take out memory card during this proccess?
Others have said you have to. but I must admit, I forgot at least once when i was flashing a ROM and it didn't seem to make any difference.
Best to take it out I guess as one of the other steps might rely on it not being in there.
Let me know how it goes.
Fantastic!
Only question-do you have P3600 or P3600i?
I have VPA compact GPS (P3600) and it seems to be different ROMs for them?
As far as I know the P3600 is exactly the same as the M700 except it has different casing. I'm currently using a different WinMo6.5 ROM with Manila that was made for a P3600 with no problems.
The P3600i has twice as much RAM memory and does require different ROM's to run.
I did it all that you said and everything is working fine, thanks for great info.
But I dont like installed ROM that you suggested and I want to flash with other one. My question is what I should flash, only ROM or I have to flash radio, olipro...?
The Radio and OliPro are now on your device until you decide to change them and overwrite them with something else. You only need to download a new ROM and install that on your phone as in the last stage of the tutorial.
This ROM by Tomme45i is very quick and very stable but it is quite simple too. Most people want something a bit more flashy. The problem with that is, with our old phones, the more bling you add the slower and more unstable they become.
I have recently put a good ROM on my phone. It is by Narshorn. It has the 23016 build of Windows 6.5 and a nice Manila2D front end (as well as the CHome front end where all the items are stacked top to bottom but I don't like that. I much prefer Manila2D). I think he is about to release a new version of it with some bug fixes in today (09/09/09) so it might be worth waiting for that.
Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549146
It's well worth reading the thread to get a feel for the limitations the ROM has, but so far I've found it to be very fast and stable.
Don't forget to donate to Narshorn for all his hard work. You only have to give him a few pounds and it all adds up. He had over 200 people download his last build and only 2 donated.
The best thing to do at this point is to head over to the ROM development thread and just READ READ READ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
Choosing a ROM is a very personal thing. Some will be perfect for someone and horrible for his friend. It just depends what you're looking for.
I only wrote this guide to get people started, the rest of the adventure is up to you to discover.
Good luck
I install tryniti 6.1. OS ultimate edition and for now I am satisfied.
Glad to hear it. Stick a link in to that ROM so others can try it out if they want.
Of course for me, I'd always try and find a 6.5 build because it has lots of finger friendly additions that mean you never have to get your stylus out to press any fiddly little menus.
Congrats ! Very GOOD Guide for new starters !
Hi chimpsinties,
I am reading since three days all the Trinity section here at the forum, each days three hours at least. I could say, this guide is quite actual, complete enough, and pointed very well, for one to start flashing an HTC P3600.
As myself.
Well, I am not a total newbie, I have flashed some months ago another device- FSCT830. But concerning Trinity- I have had no idea about until read here.
The device data up to the moment are:
ROM Version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version: 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I assume the device is HTC P3600, but not HTC P3600i. Right ?
And before start asking details: is there any difference in your guide for G3 and G4 devices? How to determine what is it?
So I would to ask you some questions regarding the procedure and the availability of all original applications and devices in the new ROMs.
Please find below right inbetween your sentences, but IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
I am eager to test a new ROM !
Thank you in advance for reply.
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Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
SO, I HAVE THE DEVICE IN FRONT OF ME AND IT HAS BEEN NEVER LOCKED. I CAN USE ANY SIM CARD WITH. DOES THIS MEANS I CAN MISS THIS POINT ?
Go to..........................
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
IF I STAY WITH THE CURRENT RADIO ROM- SHOULD I FLASH SUCCESSFULLY THE DEVICE WITH A WM6.1 ROM? (e.g. Tomme45i or other reccomended)
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. ..............................................
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
I PLAN TO MAKE AN SSPL FROM HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632&page=7 . IN THIS CASE I SHOULD MISS THE HARD SPL, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WITH TEH DEVICE'S ACTUAL FW. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
IN CASE I CONSIDER TO UPGRADE THE RADIO ROM, BUT I HAVE MISSED POINT NO.1 HOW SHOULD I GUESS WHICH ARE THE BUTTONS TO CLICK IN ROMUpdeteUtility.exe ? IS THERE ANY GUIDE ABOUT, BUT IN ENGLISH?
...................................................................................Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
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4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. ----------------------- I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU HERE. I PREFER WM6.1 AS IT IS MORE ADAPTED TO THE HARDWARE OF P3600. BTW, ISN'T TOMME45i'S ROM FOR THE NEXT MODEL (3600i) ONLY? MY DEVICE HAS 128MB RAM, SO I ASSUME IS THE MODEL WITHOUT "i" .
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here --------------------------.
AS PER THE METHOD OF FLASHING: YOU RECCOMEND THE ACTIVESYNC ONE.
BUT I HAVE READ A LOT OF COMPLAINTS SAYING THE DEVICE LOOSE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE PC DURING IT. THEREFORE I AM THINKING OVER THE SDCARD METHOD OF FLASHING. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT IT?
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
ISN'T OPERA CONSUMES MORE RAM THAN IE6 ?
AND LAST QUESTION: WITH ALL THE ROMS YOU HAVE TESTED, CAN YOU SAY WHICH OF THE ORIGINAL APPS AND FUNCTIONS ON THE DEVICE ARE NOT WORKING DEFINITELY WITH MOST OF THEM? E.G. WHAT WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE MAKING A NEW ROM FLASH?
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
To start with, it's very important to know if you have a P3600 or P3600i. The P3600 has 64MB RAM and 128MB Flash, the P3600i has 128MB RAM and 256MB Flash. The upgrade ROMS are designed to work specifically with each version of the phone.
Tomme45i's ROM I link to in the tutorial is definitely for the P3600 (SPV M700) because I had it on my handset for weeks and it worked perfectly.
I don't know what a G3 or G4 device is? Sorry
Your radio version looks very old. I would get that upgraded to the 1.56.70.11
Regarding unlocking. It is probably worth doing the 1st step anyway. Even though you're phone might be SIM unlocked to use any provider, it might still be CID locked, which means it can only use the stock ROM that came with the device. You might need to CID unlock it to allow you to change your ROM.
That way, if you do the first step, you will get used to the ROM Update Utility screens and it won't matter that they are in Chinese for the 3rd step.
I would recommend OliPro's v1.20 of HardSPL. It is virtually impossible to brick you're phone using this and you will really struggle to get the 1.56.70.11 Radio on there if you use anything else. It's the only one I found that would allow me to upgrade the Radio.
As mentioned above, I've tried lots of combinations of software and the steps in the guide were the best way to get it all to work perfectly for me.
Windows Mobile 6.5 is much better for finger friendly use. Windows 6.1 still uses a lot of the old menu styles which you usually need a stylus for. I hate Windows Mobile 6.1 now and would always look for a 6.5 ROM. When I say that these devices are not made for 6.5, I only refer to all the extra really fancy bits of the software like TouchFlo3D, CHome etc etc
Some of the 6.5 ROMs are very fast and very clean (no extra fancy bits) especially Tomme45i's. I would strongly recommend you go for a 6.5 ROM and not a 6.1. Even the 6.5 by Nashorn I recommend in a later post is very fast and looks great with the Manila2D. I use it now instead of the more plain Tomme45i ROM. You also get the gestures support so you can sweep your finger across the screen to move menus (like the iPhone) which is very cool.
Regarding the technique used to flash the ROM, I can't comment. I've never used the SD card technique. I have flashed my phone over 20 times using the USB cable and never had a problem. What could be easier than plugging it in to the PC and double clicking a program.
I like the way with Opera you can scroll around a bigger page by dragging you finger and zoom by double clicking, however I found that Opera does not support online streaming video. I now use IE8 which is included in the Nashorn ROM. It's very nice. You can even choose to browse as a desktop device (so you get all the pages rendered normally) or a mobile device ( so you get the reduced size pages) which is a very nice feature. As you experiment with the software, you find what you like and what you don't like. It's all personal choice, what is good for me won't be good for everyone. It's just a guide after all
Of all the ROMs I've tested I've never found any of the basic things that come with Windows Mobile missing. They all usually have Office, Windows messenger, Media player etc etc. I've never found myself having to sacrifice anything to run a new ROM, you usually just find extra things you didn't know you needed
I would say, a finger keyboard is very important, the combination of a 6.5 ROM and finger keyboard means you never have to get your stylus out any more. Both the ROM's I recommend come with a Finger Keyboard included.
It's just a case of finding Cabs for the things you want extra, S2U2, GAlarm, TomTom etc.
I hope I've been able to answer all your questions. Most of what you're asking is just a question of what you like. This is why they always say, 'Just try things until you find what you like'. I wrote this guide so that people who didn't really know what they were doing could get a feel for it and then experiment on their own.
Best of luck, and don't forget to donate to a chef if you like his cooking. That way they will continue to cook for us on this old hardware.
Nice thread - very informative. When I think of the fun and games I had when I first found XDA Developers and downloaded what I needed to unlock my Orange SPV M700 (had several screens open and several downloads on the go)
I have the Narshorn WM6.5 build with Manilla 2D and it has given my phone a whole new lease of life (I was getting bored of WM6 and was looking to buy a new WM6.5 device)
Stuck in Tri-Color screen
Hi,
Thanks for composing all the steps here in an easy to follow manner.
My phone is in super CID mode.
I'm running Vista ultimate.
Whenever I try any of the steps you've specified, they phone goes to the boot loader and remains in tri-color mode. The connection with vista mobile device center is cut off, but the phone itself is not stuck. If you disconnect the USB it says "serial" and if you connect it, it goes back to "usb".
Nothing more happens.
I tried SD flashing as well (renamed the file as specified), but it doesn't do anything. I can start the boot loader, but it doesn't do anything.
I've searched the forums for the error 260, but found nothing useful for flashing with vista.
I also tried unchecking the "allow USB connections" in the mobile device center, but then the device just doesn't connect.
What step am I missing?
Thanks.
Hmmmm
Unfortunately I don't use Vista so I haven't researched any problems associated with it. I know people suggest downgrading the USB drivers or if possible using an XP machine to do the flashing. There is no reason why the SD card technique shouldn't work although I haven't tried it myself.
It might be worth posting on the main board with your problems. I wrote this guide with nothing more than my own experiences in mind and unfortunately haven't had a vast amount of experience at this myself. Maybe I was just lucky to have got it right first time.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help and I hope you get it sorted soon. It's well worth persisting because getting WM6.5 on the old Trinity will transform it and give your years (or at least months) more life out of it. Unitl you get bored and want more power to play with all the cool new features like Touchflo 3D etc
Thanks
Thanks anyway. I'll start my quest for an XP machine.
Great ! It works !
chimpsinties said:
Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
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Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
AxxlPPC said:
and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
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The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
As I said in the first post:
Chimpsinties said:
You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
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This means you will have access to all the other languages for the finger keyboard. The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
AxxlPPC said:
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
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Don't you have to enable the video calling in advanced options? or maybe download a small fix .cab file that will enable it? I can't remember right now. I've only ever used video calling once and that was just to see what it was like.
I'm glad yo got it to work anyway
Now you can try other ROMs and see which one you like most. I'm still loving nashorns rom with Manila2D but I think he's been having problems with it recently.
It can be tempting to stick with one ROM just because you have got it working. Soon you'll be so good at reflashing it'll only take you about an hour to do it and get all your programs and settings back exactly how they were.
How?
AxxlPPC said:
Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
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Question, did you do this in Vista?
Correction !
orenroot said:
Question, did you do this in Vista?
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No, on an XP netbook (LenovoS10e).
there were several reports in the thread Vista has to be updated with some drivers before being capable to do the flash on Trinity.
I want to correct myself in a point:
MN7.43 starts, but crashes under WM6.5 I am still trying to find a workaround about that.
I've made all the changes to my Orange Spv M700 according to Your great guide!
It looks great!
Can anyone tell me which IGO8 runs on this ROM?
How can I change the default ringtone please? It gives me three choices without being able to browse to other ringtones....
I've got about 600 contacts I don't want to change them one by one....
Thank You!