For some odd reason when looking at my memory status.. it shows that my total program memory is 95.36 and my total storage memory is 129.91..
Shouldnt my Program memory be up to 128? while my storage memory at 256 for flash?
Can anyone post up what they have in the Settings > Memory
Storage
Total 129.91 MB
Program
Total 95.36 MB
Total 134.04
Program 95.30
But this will vary greatly from ROM to ROM unfortunatly there is no. You WILL have this amount. What is specifed by HTC is when using there own official ROM
ohh i thought i had some hardware failure or something.. what happened to the other roughly 30MB of Ram? just wondering where it went..
Depeneds on a lot of things really such as what background apps the ROM has running as default. All of your presonal settings on the phone etc. But nope nothing to worry about with this one
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When i upgraded my Himalaya to WM5, I think I used used the 64 MB RAM version. I used the himaDOC tool to partition my device and give 64 MB to the RAM and 64 to storage.
Will that partitioning persist after I have upgraded to WM6? Ever since I installed WM6 my device is very very slow and it is because there's less than 3 MB of RAM left available. Here's what my machine says about its memory:
The ABOUT menu shows "Memory: 61.28MB"
The Hardware tab in Device Information shows RAM 128 MB, Flash 32MB, Storage Size 30.53MB
And when I go to Start > System > Settings > Memory, it shows Storage Total: 30.53 and Program Total 61.25MB
I am a little confused about what all these different types of memories mean. If anyone can clarify, i would really appreciate it. Also is there a way to increase the storage memory because with the total 30.53, 27 MB is always in use and with the remaining 4 MB, the device is painfully slow.
humayunl said:
And when I go to Start > System > Settings > Memory, it shows Storage Total: 30.53 and Program Total 61.25MB
I am a little confused about what all these different types of memories mean. If anyone can clarify, i would really appreciate it. Also is there a way to increase the storage memory because with the total 30.53, 27 MB is always in use and with the remaining 4 MB, the device is painfully slow.
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If you have used DOC partitioning tool, you have 30.53 MB of storage ROM. The rest of ROM is your system and radio stack.
Your RAM is divided into 3 parts: program memory (actual RAM), RAM disk and page pool. They sum up to 128 MB. So, for example, if you have 32 MB of a RAM disk and a 32 MB page pool, you have 64 MB of a program memory left.
So from the numbers I see on my device, does everything seem good or is there anything I can do to further improve memory performance/allocation so that the things will be faster?
Do you have a RAMdisk enabled?
You know, there's no simple answer to "what configuration is better". If it were, you wouldn't have a choice It depends on how many programs you have installed, what exactly programs you're running, and so on...
Hello,
As you know Kaiser has 128MB of RAM. When you open Memory in settings then you can see that there is only 85.32MB of Program memory. So where is 42,68MB of RAM? Is all gone for pagepool in this ROM?
Best regards.
Just like yr desktop, everything runs on the machine need memory (RAM). OS (WM6.1), driver, start-up program, phone dialer, today ... etc.
jackleung said:
Just like yr desktop, everything runs on the machine need memory (RAM). OS (WM6.1), driver, start-up program, phone dialer, today ... etc.
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You are talking about "in use" memory. I am talking about total memory what you can see in memory in settings...
After soft reset i have:
Total: 85.32 MB
In Use: 38:93 MB
Free: 46.39 MB
Anybody can explain me why total memory is only 85.32?
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You are talking about "in use" memory. I am talking about total memory what you can see in memory in settings...
After soft reset i have:
Total: 85.32 MB
In Use: 38:93 MB
Free: 46.39 MB
Anybody can explain me why total memory is only 85.32?
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I know exactly what you are talking about. In older ROMs 6.0 and I believe some of the older 6.1, that amount was closer to the 100MB mark.
Part of that (about 12MB) is used for page pool. However almost that amount was used on the older ROMs as well, so wouldn't account for the almost 15MB disparity we see.
I have asked this question myself a couple times in the ROM development forum...no one has provided an answer. Some suggest that they are using that RAM as additional 'cache' ram of one type or another to improve performance. That seems like it could be a logical reason since whenever you increase other cache's in the registry it takes memory out of that same chunk. The other answer could be that there are newer or more low level drivers that for one reason or another are taking up that RAM.
Fact is no one knows. My bet is on cache of some point, although i can't really say that I see an improvement that would warrant that 15MB of use. There's not much you can do about it at this point other than live with the diminished memory or flash an older ROM.
Before i had HTC Himalaya (128MB of RAM) with WM5 and there when you set up 16MB pagepool then all rest of RAM (112MB) was available in memory applet. I never tried Himalaya with WM6 ROM so i can't tell how much memory was available then. However, thanks for your reply. Regards.
Hello everybody,
I would like to know how much memory left you have. The only programs I installed are spb GPRSMonitor, Schap"s Advanced Configuration Tool and DinarSoft MemMaid. I know I have 196MB for Ram size, but when I click on setting memory, I have only 40.25 MB free...
Not much more than with my previous Eten X500+, which had only 64 MB.
Thanks in advance,
Philippe
Same problem here, I think the current ROM has a problem...
Diamond :
Total - Storage : 83mb + Programs : 113 = 196Mb
Touch Dual :
Total - Storage : 122mb + Programs : 101 = 223Mb
Isn't the Diamond supposed to have more memory than the Touch Dual, and what's with the storage memory being 40Mb less !
I thought ROM is the one used for storage and RAM is used for processing of data by the OS?
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I thought ROM is the one used for storage and RAM is used for processing of data by the OS?
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Yes it is... but some people still don't seem to get it...
haha okok...
anyway, what's your "idle" (no programs running other than your Touchflow and no other connections switched on) percentage of memory usage?
the lowest I can go is 61% which I feel is considerably high. I've already applied all the tweaks. Probably explains the slight lag.
How are you seeing 61% ? If you check off Touchfo3D in the today settings I hope it doesn't still start it...
the lowest i can go is 56%. and this when nothing is running except the touchflo3d,and phone is on in 3g mode with connection,also every page of tf3d is loaded(weather,progs,contact etc.)
still it says that there is 63.63mb in use of ram and now i have 49.46mb of free ram. thats the same i had on my kaiser!! very strange.
They say the phone has 192mb ram? i only see 113.08mb as total ram??
cant wait till touch pro comes out
Touch Flo 3D has memory leak issues. The longer u use, the less ram u'll have.
ok but still I get the RAM/ROM thing, but anyone knows where the rest of the RAM is? (192-112MB) I guess the 256MB rom is also used for other stuff as external rom etc.
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ok but still I get the RAM/ROM thing, but anyone knows where the rest of the RAM is? (192-112MB) I guess the 256MB rom is also used for other stuff as external rom etc.
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i think the memory used by the OS is not shown..
only memory used by the programs that you run are shown
hope that helps..
Is it possible to adjust your program memory using the device memory, like on wm2003?
Nope
That feature is not available with WM 5 and up
That adjustment was there because file storage was done in RAM, and the slider would let you choose how much of that RAM to allocate to storage and running programs. Since WM5, storage is done in the Flash memory, so all the RAM is always dedicated to running programs. No point for it then.
alright thank you!
I'll just wait for a different rom with more program memory then.
program mem is static one cant add more by rom other then
move ram from pagepool to app memory
and doing that kill application io performance
pagepool was interduced when flash storage was
to counter the issue that flash storage was much much slower
then old sd ram storage
Hello,
I would like someone to clarify to me some things about the device memory. My current mem readings as shown in the Control Panel are:
- Storage: 299.01 MB (210.27MB free)
- Program: 183.73 MB (72.87 free)
According to the official specs, the Topaz has 512 MB ROM and 256 MB RAM. How are these two types of memory related to Storage and Programs? Is there a way to mess between RAM, ROM, Storage and Programs in order to achieve optimum memory usage? For example, in my device there seems to be a lot of free Storage Mem available, as compared to Program Mem... Should I need to do something about this big discrepancy?
I would be grateful if someone clarified all this to me.
To be very short:
ROM (Read Only Memory) is where bootloader and Windows resides:Beside this there is more room to install applications (Programs) and to store personal files such as pictures,videos,mp3,docs etc.(Storage). ROM is non-volatile memory, this means that data will remain in the device even if power is cut off and will be available the next restart.RAM (Random Access Memory) is volatile memory that your device needs for ordinary functioning (loads into it programs that are running).RAM wil be emptied if powered off. It does not have sense to compare these two values and try to make them similar. An advice would be to install and store all you can in the Memory Card.Note: some apps/cabs need necessarily to be installed in the device (Programs memory) otherwise they don't work.Note 2: Access timings to memory cards are higher than internal ROM, take it in consideration if you have to decide where to store/install.
...Well I wasn't so short..I'll try it again:
If someone asked me:""why do I have so little free Program memory compared to Storage memory?"
I'd answer:"It's beause of many useless Microsoft programs embedded into Windows that cannot be uninstalled, only cooks can do it"
Thanks a lot for the (not so short after all! ) reply! So, if I get it correctly, the so called Storage Memory is the ROM after all: In other words, these 210 MB that are free cannot be utilized by me in any way, unless of course, I switch to a cooked ROM that contains lots of programs that currently occupy my RAM, and which they will not be needed to be installed there any more.... However, I am not in the mood of flashing and setting everything up from scratch, right now....
The storage card is indeed a solution, yet it has the two limitations that you correctly mentioned... So, I will basically have to stick with the RAM that is left...
In the same order as your arguments:
-Those 210 MB CAN be used by you, by installing apps in it, but I adviced you to possibly install them in Memory Card unless inevitable.
-Cooked ROMs generally free up Programs Memory area (or maintain same memory and upgrade embedded apps).
-Storage card is simply VITAL,access timings and transfer speeds are good enough to support everyday use.
-Then you talk about RAM: You "have to stick to RAM that is left" as anybody,but RAM usage is variable, depending on how much intensive is your device work in runtime. To optimize RAM memory use CleanRam, you can do it manually or schedule it (like I do)...and of course don't run too many apps at the time (check Task manager)!!
jcan said:
Hello,
I would like someone to clarify to me some things about the device memory. My current mem readings as shown in the Control Panel are:
- Storage: 299.01 MB (210.27MB free)
- Program: 183.73 MB (72.87 free)
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I was talking about these 210 MB, which are reported as free in my Storage memory, which if I understood well is the ROM... So I can't use them to install apps in it.
On the other hand, the Program memory (which I have 73 MB free) is the RAM, right?
Or I've got it all wrong?
210 MB is part of the ROM and it is free space in which you can store personal files (mp3,pictures,videos,contacts,docs etc.)--->same as Memory Card but smaller and quicker.The free memory in which you can install programs is in your case 72.87MB and is still part of the ROM(I want to better check this last statement,update coming soon).
RAM is another memory module,physically separated from ROM,it's another chip. RAM values vary with the device workload.
Update: I confirm,to simplify we can say that both Storage and Programs memory is part of the ROM, in no ways it can be considered as being RAM.
Thanks a lot for all the clarifications, sualc! Now everything has been sorted out to me.
You're welcome,cheers