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Are you going to upgrade to Sony XPERIA X1?

A simple enough poll.
Are you going to upgrade from your Kaiser to the Sony X1?
Personally I love my Kaiser, it is by far the best phone I've ever had. My only problem is the screen resolution.... Now bring along the Sony Xperia X1 and have it pretty much functionally the same as the kaiser and the larger screen resolution and you have an awesome phone.
What right now could beat the X1, the TyTN III, but it's not anounced and unlikley to be this year.
So personally I can't wait for the X1.

Definitely not, though my kaiser is not perfect, i dont think a X1 would be. i've been using Sony's laptop, cell phones, mp3,etc in the past, but everytime there are some unacceptable designs fault like easily broken buttons and leakage on machine body. They just put their efforts on design, without testing carefully the components!

it would be better to ask this question when the device is in the wild and people have had a change to review it,
it could be a lemon for all we know

andaroo said:
it would be better to ask this question when the device is in the wild and people have had a change to review it,
it could be a lemon for all we know
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That's true, but and a real but, if it is pretty much the same as the Kaiser, with the higher resolution, slighly faster processor and graphics drivers (which I doubt really HTC want to fix for the kaiser) then this will be a killer phone.

Can we have another option please? Something along the lines of:
No, I'm not touching another device made by HTC, no matter who they're working with.

I like to try new gadget. So, for me, definitely I'm going to upgrade to Sony Xperia X1. If it's not going to be that good, I'll be back to my Tytn II.

It's really too soon to say, it looks good from this distance, but until there are real world reports on performance etc it's not possible to judge. I'd like it to be a killer device that I could upgrade to with confidence, but my previous experience of both SE and HTC tells me to wait.
It's still possible that this phone will only be a minor improvement on the Kaiser, and the Kaiser itself may still be improved in the meantime (through the work going on here, if not at HTC).

If I didn't have the Kaiser I would buy the X1 no doubt about that - but for my use there just isn't enough new stuff under the cover to make me go away from the Kaiser...

Oh yes please!!!!!
I will definitely check it out closer to launching but from what I have seen up to now I don't see any reason that I would not take it. I use to be a SE fan before I got into ppc's. I was looking for OS freedom, that is why I started with WM devices. I liked my Wizard and after almost 2 weeks can't find fault with my new Kaiser. Deep down I'm still a SE fan though.
Can't wait for launch date :

Not sure...I really like the larger screen and the buttons on the X1 as they are spaced out.
It also seems to be lighter/thinner which would be a plus.
But hopefully when the release WM7.0, it will make the Kaiser UI much more friendly and interactive.
None of this is confirmed and this is just a mockup, but it looks really sharp: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Windows-Mobile-7-0-Preview-or-Simple-Mockup-75751.shtml
For the most part though I really like my Kaiser

vip3r69 said:
I will definitely check it out closer to launching but from what I have seen up to now I don't see any reason that I would not take it. I use to be a SE fan before I got into ppc's. I was looking for OS freedom, that is why I started with WM devices. I liked my Wizard and after almost 2 weeks can't find fault with my new Kaiser. Deep down I'm still a SE fan though.
Can't wait for launch date :
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I heard that the actual release date will be in 2009 Feb

You all know that this is Sony Ericsson right?? I will get it when I have the money and the time
Also no that was a typo.

its made by HTC
apparently

belon_cfy said:
I heard that the actual release date will be in 2009 Feb
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SE have confirmed that was just a mistake on their website, the release date stands at H2 - meaning anytime between July and December this year.

i just went on the sony website and watched their commercial. Its the crappiest commercial to advertise the phone. Its 6 seconds of the phone in action, and the rest is flying paper airplane.
I cant decide whether I want it or not. if it has all the things kaiser does, then yeah, but otherwise most likely not.

In theory it has all that the Kaiser has, plus a higher resolution screen. The really killer difference though is the size and weight - it really is a LOT smaller, and a lot more pocketable, while still retaining that full qwerty etc.

Boinng said:
In theory it has all that the Kaiser has, plus a higher resolution screen. The really killer difference though is the size and weight - it really is a LOT smaller, and a lot more pocketable, while still retaining that full qwerty etc.
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The most important feature is the keyboard. Sure that's why we all have the Kaiser right...
Size is important, but too small and you can't type. You'd end up with a Treo/ Blackberry/ Samsung type keypad and I can't stand those buttons, way too small.
In saying that though, the thickness is really important, it would be great if it was a lot thinner, but again if you go too thin you get into that area that samsung have been pushing. Have you tried out their D900 phone, just way too thin, pain in the a*s to press those keys.
Also weight. Kaiser is definatly the heaviest phone i've used, but I don't find it that bad. I thought it was going to be way to heavy, my old eTen m600 a lot lighter, but really I don't mind it at all.
A bit lighter, a bit smaller, a lot thinner, with the bigger screen, the better keyboard layout and we have a winner.
I can't wait to see the phones out in 2010!

As a long standing HTC user I have been happy with the MDA Vario III overall but the display problems and poor quality camera (slow screen refresh etc) have been a BIG disapointment. The poor response from HTC has been even worse and what appears to be a complete lack of customer service has really
put me off them!
I am certainly looking forward to checking out the XPERIA X1 in the flesh..
Sony have generally delivered a good solid handset in the past and the battery life and camera are often excellent too. As long as they get the whole package to come together and the initial feedback is good I will consider letting my Vario III go.
The only issue for me will be that I am currently only 5 months into a contract with T-Mobile so I will need to get a SIM free or go for a second contract. Oh the price we pay for technological advances!
Zippyioa

Rather than listen to the hype, I'd need to see it and test drive it.
It's gotta be head and shoulders above what the Kaiser has to offer, because I'm not the type of guy to upgrade just to have the latest.
Good thing my last HTC device was a Blue Angel and not a Wizard or Hermes, or I'd still be using it

personally i dont really care HOW much of an upgrade it is from TytnII to X1...of course it'd be nice if all the problems of the tytnii be fixed in the x1 but i just like to try new phones...so i will try out the x1...if i dont like it..worst case is go back to the tytnii...so no lost

YEAH!

Nice I have finally decided to get the iPhone off my head.. as it may be very "pretty" its nothing you can play around with. and by playing around i mean CUSTOMIZE,GET ALOT OF GAMES,ALOT OF HANDY APPS,FLASH AND OTHER PLATFORMS,(its cheaper) AND WM6 FTW!!
although im undecicive in which phone to get.. i had the wizzard 2 years ago i loved it.. now i think i might be getting the Motorola Q9c or HTC touch (which one should i go for??) and i'm a noob on WM6 devices any recommendations? PM or Post here!!
THANKS!!

do you want touchscreen or ease of use (or at least in my opinion)
The touchscreen reduces the amount of button pushing, but all your time gets sucked away by all the UI tweaking.
Smartphones are easier to manage, but aren't as cool technologically.
But this is an HTC forum and moto's on the fall anyway, so i say HTC touch if you can live without the hardware keyboard

THANKS!
Thank you! I like touchscreens so i might go with the touch

WMnoob said:
Thank you! I like touchscreens so i might go with the touch
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Motorola makes good handsets for the symbian platform. Can't say much bout the WM platform. Only thing I like of them is the Flashlight application they developed
If you are going for HTC touch buy the HTC Touch 3452. (Elfin)

Well as a Touch owner, I will say go with the Touch (Vogue)!! Lots of memory, stock it can handle an 8GB SD, good ROMs available, and I really like the design. The screen has a smooth surface, so no edges around the screen (makes it eaiser to access all of screen), and very light. Only downside was, no Wi-Fi, but if you get an unlimited data plan, then who cares!

hmm
What do you guys think of the motoQ9c?
its rly cheap and all i hear are good reviews... arent all WM6 devices capable of doing the same thing? (not regarding touch)

Kaiser VS Touch Pro

Is it really worth the upgrade?
The only plus i see on the Touch pro is the Manilla interface with real 3D.
But i do hope with time, the 3D Drivers get ported on our Kaiser, and therefore we can get the same UI than on the touch Diamond/Pro.
Of course the Touch Pro has a slick design and faster processor, but i dont really care about those .
What do you guys think about it ? Is it worth the 650E ?

I would hold out for a while
I am interested in getting it for the tv out. I would hold out until it gets some impartial reviews on here. I don't think T-Mo is gonna get it in the US but if it gets good reviews, I might get it from someone who gets in over their head with a phone where they don't need this many features.

guigui42 said:
Is it really worth the upgrade?
The only plus i see on the Touch pro is the Manilla interface with real 3D.
But i do hope with time, the 3D Drivers get ported on our Kaiser, and therefore we can get the same UI than on the touch Diamond/Pro.
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I wouldn't hold your breath on the video drivers, sure the guys have already done sterling work so far and I thank them for the effort they have put in but in reality, I think that as more and more people move onto the diamond/touch pro then people will fail to care about the kaiser users any more and they will be forgotten. No doubt the devs will have plenty on their hands fixing HTC's latest cockups with their new handsets as I'm sure there will be many.
Personally I'd like nothing more than for those drivers to be polished off and for all of the kaiser users to stick it to HTC by keeping their kaisers and not filling HTC's pockets with cash by upgrading to the latest handset

foobar1977 said:
I wouldn't hold your breath on the video drivers, sure the guys have already done sterling work so far and I thank them for the effort they have put in but in reality, I think that as more and more people move onto the diamond/touch pro then people will fail to care about the kaiser users any more and they will be forgotten. No doubt the devs will have plenty on their hands fixing HTC's latest cockups with their new handsets as I'm sure there will be many.
Personally I'd like nothing more than for those drivers to be polished off and for all of the kaiser users to stick it to HTC by keeping their kaisers and not filling HTC's pockets with cash by upgrading to the latest handset
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interesting point but how many people will do that? not many when lots of people have little patience for things to be fixed,upgraded,moded and ported.1 of the biggest things is touchflo 3d will obviously be the 1 of the best selling features about the touch pro. if any kaiser user would switch then they would prefer touch pro over the diamond in a heartbeat. i would.

How can you say that?
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Is it really worth the upgrade? The only plus i see on the Touch pro is the Manilla interface with real 3D...QUOTE]
What about?
1. Faster processor
2. Bigger ROM
3. More RAM
4. 480x640 VGA
5. Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
6. LED light/flash
7. FM radio
...not to mention the Accelerometer and a 5 row keyboard.
It has EVERYTHING the TyTn II/Kaiser has PLUS all of this...why NOT upgrade?
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technillion said:
guigui42 said:
Is it really worth the upgrade? The only plus i see on the Touch pro is the Manilla interface with real 3D...QUOTE]
What about?
1. Faster processor
2. Bigger ROM
3. More RAM
4. 480x640 VGA
5. Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
6. LED light/flash
7. FM radio
...not to mention the Accelerometer and a 5 row keyboard.
It has EVERYTHING the TyTn II/Kaiser has PLUS all of this...why NOT upgrade?
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Quite right - the only thing it does not have is a tilting screen, which I would miss a bit. Overall, there would be no overwhelming reason not to upgrade to Touch Pro if it weren't for the the Xperia X1 with WVGA screen, slightly tilted screen & probably nicer build quality (loved the high end Clie's!).
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DavidMc0 said:
technillion said:
Quite right - the only thing it does not have is a tilting screen, which I would miss a bit.
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I would say the tilted screen is perhaps one feature that I would miss THE MOST!!
hehehe, Imagine...you are in your office, school, etc, and you are having lunch on your own, and feel like watching a movie clip to go with your lunch...
Place your TyTN II on your desk, flip the screen and tilt it, and voila you have your own mini portable tv with the right angle...
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meckah said:
Place your TyTN II on your desk, flip the screen and tilt it, and voila you have your own mini portable tv with the right angle...
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Yep, I do this nearly every day at work. (And not necessarily only on lunch).

jpope said:
Yep, I do this nearly every day at work. (And not necessarily only on lunch).
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Tsk Tsk, Please come to my office first thing tomorrow.

Personally, I think many are putting too much into touch flow 3-d. I, personally, think it would suck. Finger prints and sluggish performance are hardly the fate I forsee my expensive handset espousing.
Just my opinion, and I assume others have different ones.

pinetreehater said:
Personally, I think many are putting too much into touch flow 3-d. I, personally, think it would suck. Finger prints and sluggish performance are hardly the fate I forsee my expensive handset espousing.
Just my opinion, and I assume others have different ones.
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The point of having a touch screen is to be able to use your finger on it, not only stylus (else i would just get a Palm ).
And you have to admit, WM6 UI is not finger friendly. Luckily, we have iContacts, S2U etc... You talk about finger prings ? just have to wash your hands often and clean your screen once in a while.
I use my Kaiser 90% of time with my thumb, no stylus (only for non finger friendly apps).
So, in MY case, the touch Diamond / Pro UI is a must !
@technillion
I dont really care about the extra speed (as long as we have the proper drivers the kaiser is powerful enough) or extra space (gotta love the SDHC cards ), or even care less about the FM radio (who actually listen to FM radio nowdays ? its the internet era ).
But you are right, the VGA screen does seem pretty nice.
Also as mentioned above, i think the tilted screen will surely be missed.
Finally, i think i will wait for the next generation HTC to come out (September 2009 i suppose ?). Its a long wait, but if i must spend 650E, i prefer it to be for something that adds a really value compared to my Kaiser.

Just noticed your reply and wanted to comment. I agree with "finger friendly." However, using your finger to rub the screen (aka swipe) is different (read more smudgies) than using your finger to make a peck (or your finger nail as I do).
But I guess my point is really moot. After I talk on my phone, the screen is always covered in facial oil (I live in the S. Georgia, so I tend to sweat a lot). So, I guess finger smudges are really of little concern.

pinetreehater said:
Just noticed your reply and wanted to comment. I agree with "finger friendly." However, using your finger to rub the screen (aka swipe) is different (read more smudgies) than using your finger to make a peck (or your finger nail as I do).
But I guess my point is really moot. After I talk on my phone, the screen is always covered in facial oil (I live in the S. Georgia, so I tend to sweat a lot). So, I guess finger smudges are really of little concern.
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With my ExpertShields screen protector smudgies are not really a problem. Can't really see them unless I hold the phone just so so the reflection revels them. The ExertShild is also very smooth, you finger and stylus just gliudes across the screen.
I'll be eligable for an up grade in Febuary, and I plan to get one.

No 2D drivers, but 3D drivers is like saying.... you can play Crisis 3D realtime, but ur computer is not XP capable... :-/... Thats whats stopping me from getting it... I was really into HTC until I bought the AT&T Tilt... I just dont trust HTC with anything even though I feel like HTC Dream might actually be a good phone... I'd now rather just move to Nokia or Sony (because Sony doesnt release products until it matches quality... and if it doesnt, they WILL recall it ... )...

Tilt Screen
DavidMc0 said:
technillion said:
Quite right - the only thing it does not have is a tilting screen, which I would miss a bit. Overall, there would be no overwhelming reason not to upgrade to Touch Pro if it weren't for the the Xperia X1 with WVGA screen, slightly tilted screen & probably nicer build quality (loved the high end Clie's!).
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If they put in a "Tilt Screen" they will not have enough things to put in the HTC Touch Pro Extreme next Generation. The Tilt will be in next Junes upgrade.
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why not wait for xmas when nvidia releases their chip and companies make phones with 1080p out put that can play for 10hrs straight. that would be so much more apealing then any other device.

technillion said:
guigui42 said:
Is it really worth the upgrade? The only plus i see on the Touch pro is the Manilla interface with real 3D...QUOTE]
What about?
1. Faster processor
2. Bigger ROM
3. More RAM
4. 480x640 VGA
5. Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
6. LED light/flash
7. FM radio
...not to mention the Accelerometer and a 5 row keyboard.
It has EVERYTHING the TyTn II/Kaiser has PLUS all of this...why NOT upgrade?
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Some things are missing on the diamond pro compared to the Kaiser :
- the tilting screen : everyone knows this one ...
- the hardware buttons : the diamond has a very small amount of buttons. For me it is an important point as this is the fastest way to launch applications. It is also very important if you are a gamer.
- the scroll wheel : also very usefull for me.
- the power consomption is higher than the Kaiser. VGA screens are very power consuming screens.
- software compatibility problems : some applications just do not work (Tomtom 7 for exemple), some others do not work properly. It is mostly related to the VGA screen.
I also saw on the diamond threads that the speed is still an issue with this device. Some actual owners of the diamond reported to me that coming from the Kaiser (they had one before) it does not seem to be really worth the upgrade as the use of the phone in an "everyday activity" is not faster than the Kaiser. For exemle, using it as a phone sometimes take seconds for just closing a call ...
Just check, on the XDA forum, the Diamond threads and you will see that it may really not be worth the upgrade, at least this is my conclusion !
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I also consider how much I would get from my Kaiser selling it now. Changing phones once a year can actually be very close (not the same, but almost) on the money spend as changing once every 2 yrs.

ssjgoku24 said:
why not wait for xmas when nvidia releases their chip and companies make phones with 1080p out put that can play for 10hrs straight. that would be so much more apealing then any other device.
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i would like to see this first.. will probably be vaporware

ssjgoku24 said:
why not wait for xmas when nvidia releases their chip and companies make phones with 1080p out put that can play for 10hrs straight. that would be so much more apealing then any other device.
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Do u have some closer info about phones with nvidia chips? I would like to know some info about that.

who will be upgrading to Diamond2?

Diamond2 is coming out around 10th april so wondering who will be upgrading or buying it?
is it worth getting the 2nd gen diamond?
i am stuck in a 18mth contract, so can't upgrade now untill apr 2010

harrysaab said:
Diamond2 is coming out around 10th april so wondering who will be upgrading or buying it?
is it worth getting the 2nd gen diamond?
i am stuck in a 18mth contract, so can't upgrade now untill apr 2010
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What I will be eventually doing is switching over regardless of contracts. I will going to Florida in the summer and picking one up there. When I return, I will just simply selling my old Diamond. This will all happen by August of this year. I never wait for contracts to expire. That would make me go crazy having a phone for 2 or 3 years straight. This is my 4th phone in the last 6 months....lol
Phones I had in the last 6mths:
1) HP 6955
2) Cruise
3) Trinity
4) Diamond

i think i will be getting the touch pro 2 instead of the diamond 2

Touch Pro 2 here too... played with the Diamond 2 at MWC, I don't like it's look and feel.

Touch Pro 2 is the poison I choose this time.
Will keep my Beloved Diamond 1 for when I need Sleeeknesssss.
Greetz to all.

lucky you... wish i had the chance to visit the mwc

i dont like the look of the diamond 2 it feel cheap
and the pro 2 is very biig its even bigger than TyTN II its better if they name it TyTN III
i will wait for a new phone from htc (diamond 3)

Don't like the Diamond 2
Diamond 2 doesn't look as nice as my original diamond. Touch Pro 2 looks better than the diamond 2, but I'm not liking it either. I might just totally skip on the latest HTC phones and try out the Palm Pre 'till HTC comes up with something else.

Didn't HTC hire a designer or something for their new devices??
I think the oncoming HTC devices are ugly... I really liked the touch phones, they were the first phones that just looked good (except the cruise) and especially the diamand/pro
I wish i never got that touch dual i have now im stuck with it until december;(
But i guess it'll be the iphone for then, I already have a decent winmo phone

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Diamond 2 doesn't look as nice as my original diamond. Touch Pro 2 looks better than the diamond 2, but I'm not liking it either. I might just totally skip on the latest HTC phones and try out the Palm Pre 'till HTC comes up with something else.
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Yeah me too, tho with luck all the early probs with the pre will have been ironed out by the time my 18mnth contract runs out in january 2010.....

Chainfire said:
Touch Pro 2 here too... played with the Diamond 2 at MWC, I don't like it's look and feel.
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Chainfire, can you elaborate a little on what you didn't like about the Diamond 2's look and feel? Is it bricky, cheap, squarish? I have a D1 and am considering the 'upgrade'. Thanks.

well, as i compared the dimensions of the new diamond2 to the old it seems it got a bit larger. it now has the size of the iphone, which in my opinion is too large.
i really like the size of the diamond1, it is a phone-size all-in wonder, and not a tablet-pc with a phone function.
the only real advantage i see is the bigger screen for better working but this is also the reason for the bigger dimensions...
the rest of the new features?
better camera? well get a digicam if you want good pictures, 5mp but no flashlight, forget good pics at evening or at indoor places with bad light...
the other updates: memory,sd slot and better battery, well nice but its no world-wonder...
and the diamond pro 2? brick with phone function? come on...
i will stay with my diamond1 and keep waiting.
so my opionion is: size DOES matter
everyone have a nice day!

i like the no2 think i mgit go there if three get there act together and get a stylish phone made by HTC rather than the current junk
but like most ive got 12 months left on the contract so lets hope the 3 is out and ready and stable by then

WMguy said:
Chainfire, can you elaborate a little on what you didn't like about the Diamond 2's look and feel? Is it bricky, cheap, squarish? I have a D1 and am considering the 'upgrade'. Thanks.
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Well, please start by opening this link in a new window:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1750&view=1
You can immediately see it is not as small or as cute as the original Diamond ( <3 !! )
It feels a bit 'stretched' in your hand when you are playing with it, don't have a better word to say it.
But the absolute worst part is the 'bottom of the front' as you can see in the picture. They gray/silvery part looks incredibly cheap/ugly IRL, and its just a waste of space with no function (they should have just made the thing a centimeter shorter).
Furthermore, between the small buttons above the silvery part and the touchscreen soft-buttons is a so called zoom-slider. It's hard to see in the picture on that page, but again this is a waste of space - and it looks really awkward too. While I imagine it could be handy while web-browsing (if it actually works, it didn't do anything on the demo models I played with), at least for me that isn't that important and I would have much preferred an on-screen zoom slider in the browser instead. Again, they could have made the thing another centimeter shorter.
It's just one hell of a butt-ugly phone (well ok it isn't as ugly as say, the G1, but it's nowhere near as sleek as the original Diamond and Touch Pro) and wastes space all over the place. It doesn't feel 'right' in your hand either.
Hope that explains it a bit.
Note that I just noticed the Rhodium has this frecking zoom slider as well... bah!

the only characteristic worth mentioning in case you make the transition is the card slot... But really! Features like the enlarged screen (800x480), a wee better camera and a flashy new metallic design won't make me change my diamond... I mean, they aren't features which make a big diff... let alone define a TRUE SEQUEL.
+ they ditched the D-pad and replaced it with a silly horizontal zoom panel... Why!?!?! it pretty much looks like a DOWNGRADE to me.
No thx!

Not me, that's for sure!
I like my Diamond, despite its poor speed and short battery life... but I'm hoping that something else good comes out in the 9 months or so that are left on my 18 month contract!
My preference would be another WinMo phone but faster, better battery, TV out and possibly even proper headphone jack. Doesn't have to be HTC because HTC software is so poor.

val3nteen said:
the only characteristic worth mentioning in case you make the transition is the card slot... But really! Features like the enlarged screen (800x480), a wee better camera and a flashy new metallic design won't make me change my diamond... I mean, they aren't features which make a big diff... let alone define a TRUE SEQUEL.
+ they ditched the D-pad and replaced it with a silly horizontal zoom panel... Why!?!?! it pretty much looks like a DOWNGRADE to me.
No thx!
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I only played with the Diamond2 a little bit today and yesterday but the one thing I noticed is that performance did seem to be noticeably improved. As I whipped around TF3D it seemed quite a bit snappier than my Diamond. Some of the hardware changes do make you wonder but the TF3D software seems significantly better (that being said - I did get WM to freeze rather easily when playing with the onscreen keyboard - oops!) I didn't think the phone was butt ugly but, in all fairness, I was drooling a little.
Just like most people, the HTC people said that the Pro2 seems to be the one exciting people more but while the features are cool it is kind of a brick IMHO. Of course, I also looked at the P6500 and that made the Pro2 look not *quite* so big!

certainly not me, the device as it is is pretty close to perfect in terms of size/weight.
with the diamond2 getting bigger and heavier, it's a big turnoff to me.
i had a choice of buying a north american diamond but did not as it's thicker and heavier.

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Well, please start by opening this link in a new window:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1750&view=1
You can immediately see it is not as small or as cute as the original Diamond ( <3 !! )
It feels a bit 'stretched' in your hand when you are playing with it, don't have a better word to say it.
But the absolute worst part is the 'bottom of the front' as you can see in the picture. They gray/silvery part looks incredibly cheap/ugly IRL, and its just a waste of space with no function (they should have just made the thing a centimeter shorter).
Furthermore, between the small buttons above the silvery part and the touchscreen soft-buttons is a so called zoom-slider. It's hard to see in the picture on that page, but again this is a waste of space - and it looks really awkward too. While I imagine it could be handy while web-browsing (if it actually works, it didn't do anything on the demo models I played with), at least for me that isn't that important and I would have much preferred an on-screen zoom slider in the browser instead. Again, they could have made the thing another centimeter shorter.
It's just one hell of a butt-ugly phone (well ok it isn't as ugly as say, the G1, but it's nowhere near as sleek as the original Diamond and Touch Pro) and wastes space all over the place. It doesn't feel 'right' in your hand either.
Hope that explains it a bit.
Note that I just noticed the Rhodium has this frecking zoom slider as well... bah!
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Thanks for the insight. I'm really on the fence about 'upgrading'. I'm intrigued by the widescreen for maps/pictures/videos and the 5MP camera has also sparked my attention. The cam on the current Diamond is very good IMO and so I'm just figuring it will get even better on the D2. I use my phone a lot for pictures. I have the NAM version of the D1 so the D2 will actually be the same weight and a little thinner. But I do know what you mean about it being 'stretched'. I had an Imate 8502 and it was a narrow phone that was long. It felt very stretched in hand so that's going to be a factor for me. Loosing the dpad (even if the D1's is crappy) is another big downer.
I've actually been toying with buying a Samsung Omnia instead. $200 cheaper, same camera specs but with a flash, widescreen (although not VGA) and a mouse pointer to 'replace' the dpad. Who knows...

My provider gave me a Samsung Omnia for free and after using a widescreen device (yes, I know, WQVGA, not WVGA), the screen on the Diamond seems too small to use. I will personally be going with the Touch Pro2, not the Diamond2. This is mainly because of the bigger screen size as well as the keyboard, not to mention the decent speaker on it and flashlight.

Moving from Touch HD to Xperia

I have a Touch HD now and I'm thinking about moving to an Xperia. I really like how the X1 looks but I haven't played around with it so I'm not familiar with the software. The things I really like about the Touch HD are the calendar/tasks access from the home screen, and the weather feature. Do you all think I'd like the X1, would it be a good phone to switch to? Or what about waiting for the X2, from what I've seen it looks basically the same.

Hmm. It seems like you like HTC's software (touchflo etc.) Therefore you will have to live with custom roms. I mean you almost find the same software for Xperia as you used for your HD. But...to be honest...you have to have your hands on it before you decide to switch..

They're pretty similar phones, so it'll be more of a step sideways, than a step forward. The X2 has some improvements, but nothing that would stop me from buying the X1 over it (except TV out, but no biggie). Everything you have on the HD can almost certainly be on the X1, so its really just the looks and keyboard.
As you know X1 looks awesome, but keyboard may disappoint, although its perfectly fine once your used to it.
Personally I don't think theres enough of a difference to switch.

Camera on SE is much better too....

How is the software on the X1, does it have the features I mentioned, is it easy to use, how do you all like it?
Also, the X1 is definitely thicker than the HD, do you think it feels too big in your pocket or is it fine?

rpimps said:
How is the software on the X1, does it have the features I mentioned, is it easy to use, how do you all like it?
Also, the X1 is definitely thicker than the HD, do you think it feels too big in your pocket or is it fine?
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Firstly, X1 seems like a small device to me.
Looks like it's kinda thick on paper, but finally - its REALLY COMPACT.
I'm always surprised it almost seems like a normal phone in the pocket and I love this fact! It's like a bonus here....
As for your software questions: many many users here just installed HTC TF3D on their devices so the functionality would be the same in this case as HTC HD - you have the same thing on X1.
But if you want to use SonyEricsson solutions: their SE panels allow you
to customize WHAT is on screen in more ways than HTC, so you can display tasks events or calendar ones on the homescreen - or not. You can also set on the homescreen the applications icons or attribute any application to one of the two hardkeys. So absolutely plenty of options here.
As for weather - it's better on HTC but SE also gives you selected city/cities weather and current temp. displayed on homescreen.
For any detailed weather I use SPB Weather anyways....
Hope this is helpful!

One little thing that might be an irritant to an HD user is that the screen is recessed. Not a deal-breaker for me, but many users have expressed disappointment at this.

It makes using a software keyboard a bit hard when you want to hit q or p.
And well, after using the Xperia for quite some time, the recessed screen only irritates when hitting q or p, and that's only when I'm trying to type without visual aid, so the recessed screen is pretty much a non-issue, just a bitxh to clean.
Edit : TBH I feel like trying a Touch HD myself - HD2 is way too expensive (and huge) and N900 is not available in SG - and the reception of the Xperia is balls in my house. Hairy monkey balls preserved in 9000+ year old vinegar, what with it keep losing signal whenever I touch it. Outside - no issue. But I spend most of my time inside, so...

doministry said:
Firstly, X1 seems like a small device to me.
Looks like it's kinda thick on paper, but finally - its REALLY COMPACT.
I'm always surprised it almost seems like a normal phone in the pocket and I love this fact! It's like a bonus here....
As for your software questions: many many users here just installed HTC TF3D on their devices so the functionality would be the same in this case as HTC HD - you have the same thing on X1.
But if you want to use SonyEricsson solutions: their SE panels allow you
to customize WHAT is on screen in more ways than HTC, so you can display tasks events or calendar ones on the homescreen - or not. You can also set on the homescreen the applications icons or attribute any application to one of the two hardkeys. So absolutely plenty of options here.
As for weather - it's better on HTC but SE also gives you selected city/cities weather and current temp. displayed on homescreen.
For any detailed weather I use SPB Weather anyways....
Hope this is helpful!
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Thanks for all that info, it sounds like I'll like the SE interface and even if I don't I'd just be able to install TF3D anyway.
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One little thing that might be an irritant to an HD user is that the screen is recessed. Not a deal-breaker for me, but many users have expressed disappointment at this.
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How big a deal is the recessed screen? Do you get used to it after a few days or is it constantly annoying you?

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How big a deal is the recessed screen? Do you get used to it after a few days or is it constantly annoying you?
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This is constantly annoying me, because i don't like the hardware keyboard (too small). It's a pain to use scroll bars or touch anything in the edges without the stylus.
But i suggest you to try it out somewhere.

locomarco said:
This is constantly annoying me, because i don't like the hardware keyboard (too small). It's a pain to use scroll bars or touch anything in the edges without the stylus.
But i suggest you to try it out somewhere.
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I'm trying to find a local store that has it but haven't had any luck so far.

rpimps said:
Thanks for all that info, it sounds like I'll like the SE interface and even if I don't I'd just be able to install TF3D anyway.
How big a deal is the recessed screen? Do you get used to it after a few days or is it constantly annoying you?
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Not a problem for me at all. Even me hitting corners with fingers (X button and Start Menu) is fine, but depending on how you hold phone, and size of fingers or thumb it may be an issue. If you can, a few minutes in-hand should let you know if it will be an issue.
Again, not an issue for me, but give it a feel before you commit to an Xperia

Just before you sell your HD an Buy an X1 ,think about it...
I have an X1 Silver,9 Months old...now i have to send it back for Warranty issues
6 Cracks on the Cover (some are really annoying..)and a broken MIC told me....NEVER BUY ME AGAIN
And I Obey...
don´t sell your HD for an Xperia,it IS really a nice Phone,ok....but on comparison on the Problem you´ll get it is not worthy!

had a hd before my x1 now. With the stuff i do, the x1 is more usefull for me.
like a lots of and fast sms, msn.
good luck

Mobile of Sorrow said:
Just before you sell your HD an Buy an X1 ,think about it...
I have an X1 Silver,9 Months old...now i have to send it back for Warranty issues
6 Cracks on the Cover (some are really annoying..)and a broken MIC told me....NEVER BUY ME AGAIN
And I Obey...
don´t sell your HD for an Xperia,it IS really a nice Phone,ok....but on comparison on the Problem you´ll get it is not worthy!
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What do you mean "6 cracks on the cover and a broken mic"? Like you dropped the phone and cracked it or what?

Cracks are usually a manufacturing defect, a well known one to the X1. It usually occurs in the battery compartment, and stylus holder. It doesn't do any real damage to the phone or affect use of it whatsoever, but its just a bit disappointing to have. Long thread about it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447211
In fact, although SE will usually just repair the cracks under warranty, and my phone had a bit of crack, I didn't bother sending it in until another issue popped up. SE in Australia are pretty good btw, they sent a courier to pick the phone up, waiting on it to be sent back, its been 3 days.
Not sure about the broken mic though.
If your buying X1 used, its viable to try it out before you sell HD and if you don't like it, just sell it again.