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6.1 T-Mobile Edition, Bug Discussion (NO POSTING PLEASE)

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Well If you enterd this thread, You probley figured out that we have a 6.1 T-mobile edition rom thanks to ND4SPD. How ever at the moment it is limited to a small group to test. At the same time I hate using the PM system when multiple ppl are testing anything. So I made a thread were WE (the TESTERS) can discuss and post fixes for this rom so we can get it released to you (THE PUBLIC) soon. I ask please, PLEASE, Do Not Post in this thread UNLESS you actually recieved the test rom from nd4spd. When a nonsence post is posted it makes it harder for us to concentrate on working on the rom when we are answering your questions.
#1 Question to be posted in this thread is...
Q. WHEN IS THIS ROM GONNA BE OUT ????????
A. AFTER WE FIX BUGS AND ND4SPD FEELS ITS READY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On to the post.
What I have found so far..
1. HOME Messages Tab crashes NEO when enabled.
Installing my cab of 4.0 Arcsoft mms did not help this problem.
2. HOME My Faves App does not work, but My Faves settings will run.
I have not tryed to fix this.
3. HOME Notification Tab does not open the text its notifing you of nor does it dismiss the text by pressing dismiss
I have not tried to fix this
4. HOME Wap Shortcuts cannot find winwap or one of its components.
I think adding regisrty values for clinks instead of using the guid will fix this.
5. HOME Settings tab doesnt include battery display
Figured out why but dont have a fix. Im missing HKCR
6. Start Menu Recent Programs includes 2 shortcuts that do not work (Instant Messaging.lnk and Task Manager)
In conveinence untill you open 9 programs to get these off recent programs. These programs work when using the shortcuts in "all programs"
7. PIE Favorites & History when clicked open file explorer. instead of drop down menu.
I havnt looked into this. How ever ive had the problem before and its usually the html file being used.
8. WAP BROWSER says my homepage is unavalible (but the default t-mobile rom told me this as well)
I dont know if this is just my phone, Feedback needed.
9. UNLOCK SCREEN still does not show clock and date when set to
Seems like we are going to have alot of fun with this one.
10. HOME Getting Started is not displayed.
Simple menu added to the registry for neo will fix this.
11. PHONE Can not initiate call by dialing number and hitting send key. (have to hit center button on D-Pad)
I have no clue were to start looking on this one.
12. MMS Does not work
SMS Works fine.
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I have not tested WIFI or BLUETOOTH
ND4SPD said neo is looking for arcsoft 4 but arcsoft 5 is on this rom wich is why the message tab isnt on the neo homescreen.
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shadowmike said:
5. HOME Settings tab doesnt include battery display
The battery in the settings tab is not showing up due to the ID in the registry {634CA962-22D8-4671-BBC7-BAC47148A4B6}, When its switched to the wifi ID wifi status shows up on line 2 but the battery is displayed in the settings tab and opens power.exe when clicked. But when switched back to {634CA962-22D8-4671-BBC7-BAC47148A4B6} the battery display dissapears.
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shadowmike said:
7. PIE Favorites & History when clicked open file explorer. instead of drop down menu.
The html coding is causing the favorites and history drop downs from displaying correctly. This reg edit will fix this issue simply by using the default windows mobile homepage. wich is the same page but not skinned by t-mobile
Code:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\AboutURLs]
"version_0409"="[URL="file://windows//default_0409.htm"]file://\\windows\\default_0409.htm[/URL]"
"home_0409"="[URL="file://windows//default_0409.htm"]file://\\windows\\default_0409.htm[/URL]"
"blank"="res://webview.dll/blank.htm"
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shadowmike one of the biggest problems I am having is it locks up on the home page and did you nodes win going in to
internet explorer and hitting favorites or history it brings you to the windows folder

I think there are two ways of solving the problems:
The Easy Way:
Just use the wm6 OEM files and use all wm6.1 SYS files except CHome and ConfettiCore
This will get a working rom quickly but the problems we have now will still be there if we try making separate organized packages for each software.
The Hard Way:
Fix all these bugs one by one until assured to work and only then post a public rom. This means that the rom will take a longer time to release.
I prefer the hard way, but am open to the easy solution. What do you guys think.
btw, thanks shadowmike for making this thread. PM'ing was pretty tedious

ND4SPD said:
I think there are two ways of solving the problems:
The Easy Way:
Just use the wm6 OEM files and use all wm6.1 SYS files except CHome and ConfettiCore
This will get a working rom quickly but the problems we have now will still be there if we try making separate organized packages for each software.
The Hard Way:
Fix all these bugs one by one until assured to work and only then post a public rom. This means that the rom will take a longer time to release.
I prefer the hard way, but am open to the easy solution. What do you guys think.
btw, thanks shadowmike for making this thread. PM'ing was pretty tedious
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I like the hard way.
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kron2 said:
shadowmike one of the biggest problems I am having is it locks up on the home page and did you nodes win going in to
internet explorer and hitting favorites or history it brings you to the windows folder
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Explain lockup ? as in freeze. And how do you get it to freeze ? Are you switching home screens and when you try to get to homescreen you cant ? what apps are you running on the rom ?
and #7

it just freezes by scrolling down it .well as there is so many bugs I am running no apps and by lockup I mean the home screen freezes so you can't scroll it but you can go to start and to other app but the home screen stays locked till reboot are you having the same problem if not I will try to redownload it and reinstall it... nd4spd did you work the bugs out of the new way of installing from the T-Mobile rom if so I will give it a go and I would like to see a stabile T-Mobile wm6.1 rom with out neo first thin work on this but you are the cook not to say I would use it I like the clean wm6.1 I have......i would like to see UC (user customizable) 2.0 Capable in the clean rom

kron2 said:
it just freezes by scrolling down it .well as there is so many bugs I am running no apps and by lockup I mean the home screen freezes so you can't scroll it but you can go to start and to other app but the home screen stays locked till reboot are you having the same problem if not I will try to redownload it and reinstall it... nd4spd did you work the bugs out of the new way of installing from the T-Mobile rom if so I will give it a go and I would like to see a stabile T-Mobile wm6.1 rom with out neo first thin work on this but you are the cook not to say I would use it I like the clean wm6.1 I have......i would like to see UC (user customizable) 2.0 Capable in the clean rom
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I have not had your "Freeze", however since the shadow is underpowered. when i switch homescreens if i dont hit end call or the home button before it starts to load the homescreen i have to restart. however this also happend in the official t-mobile rom.

Small bug I noticed is when you set your calendar view to default to month (say), it still only opens to agenda view.
Not quite sure what received from nd4spd means but with a few hacks this is a great rom.

tweker said:
Small bug I noticed is when you set your calendar view to default to month (say), it still only opens to agenda view.
Not quite sure what received from nd4spd means but with a few hacks this is a great rom.
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It means he pm'ed a few ppl a link to a new 6.1 t-mobile NEO homescreen rom.
From what he told me it was not publicly released... so if he did not send you the link to this rom and you have it. somone leaked it... thats what it means. basicly. I dont want ppl that dont have this test rom to come in this thread and ask questions and make this thread 10 pages.

How is the process going Guys.

well i decided to come back and work on this again.
im currently installing the rom. simply because i want to use the portrait camera. and since it works flawlessly in this version. yeah.

Yea Mike, what I been wanting is the original T-Mobile screen back.

Tony Hawk Pro 2 Hardware rendering (NEW HD YouTube Video.Love your Touch Pro Again)!)

THPS2 in Hardware Mode. Touch pro users, Tweak Finalized.
This is my touch pro picture.
New HD YOUTUBE VIDEO NEW LINK ADDED
ok i have great news and bad news. Ill start with the bad news. you will need to download the hardware version. its the same as the soft version just with some tweaks for acceleration . now i must say i have tony hawk running on a touch pro with high graphics and hardware rendering on. no lag whats so ever. i cant beleive it.
If you have the Hardware Version then go ahead with the following.
Need the right version PM me. I do not have or give Warez. Just direct
Note: Remember Hardware and Soft version look exactly the same so theres really no way to tell the diffrence except in the size of the install. Hardware is Bigger.
Note 2. To see the 3rd DLL in the Dlls Folder Follow these directions on you windows PC. Enter the DLL'S folder. Press F10. a Menu bar will appear at the top of file explorer. Click Tools Then Foler option. then click view. under Hidden files and folders select Show hidden files and folders. Now you should see the 3rd hidden DLL.
Remember only this version and my tweaks will have this game Blazing i promise. Better than you ever played it on your phone.
Note: use file expoler and click Menu, then Check SHOW ALL FILES
1.Install to Storage card
2.Now you will have to move these 3 DLL's to your windows Directory and edit your registry as follows
3.HKLM/System/D3Dm/Drivers/Localhook Change to d3dm_ati.dll
4.Now in your THPS2 folder replace TH2_OPT with Mines
5.In Your THPS2 folder delete libgles_cm.dll
If you have libgles_cm.dll on your Storage card main directory delete it
Now open your keybroad and start Tony Hawk, Set you quilty setting to High EnJoy.
Mapping is a breeze. just go to options in THPS2 and set your values
Develpers who made this possible are : NuShrike, At0mAng, sakajati,iRiKi, and of course Me The Family. Cheers
Im upset there are people stealing my work on other sites and not giving credit where credit is due.

will it be playable with hw keyboard in landscape mode ? btw can´t wait :_)

Can't wait to test it.. really like the game.. I hope it is playable on a TP.. Keep up the good work..

Finally its a complished
ok i have great news and bad news. Ill start with the bad news. you will need to download the hardware version. its the same as the soft version just with some tweaks for acceleration . now i must say i have tony hawk running on a touch pro with high graphics and hardware rendering on. no lag whats so ever. i cant beleive it.
Since this site does not allow warez you have to email me a request for location of proper file to get this to work. remember i dont have any warezs i just no where to get it. so you better contact me quick before it dis appears.lol
If you have the Hardware Version then go ahead with the following.
Note: Remember Hardware and Soft version look exactly the same so theres really no way to tell the diffrence except in the size of the install. Hardware is Bigger.
PM me and i will give you my email. i will be on for 2 hours so act fast.
Remember only this version and my tweaks will have this game Blazing i promise. Better than you ever played it on your phone.
1.Install to Storage card
2.Now you will have to move these 3 DLL's to your windows Directory and edit your registry as follows
3.HKLM/System/D3Dm/Drivers/Localhook Change to d3dm_ati.dll
4.Now in your THPS2 folder replace TH2_OPT with Mines
5.In Your THPS2 folder delete libgles_cm.dll
If you have libgles_cm.dll on your Storage card main directory delete it
Now open your keybroad and start Tony Hawk, Set you quilty setting to High EnJoy.
Mapping is a breeze. just go to options in THPS2 and set your values

New video is now posted

New video Link
WIll it make you love your pro again. lol.

Works on my Touch Pro........Thanks

Landscape still upside down
Guys, any ideas on how to flip my landscape? I started the game with the keyboard out and it still flips the screen upside down? Any ideas?

You say that you must use the hardware version but where can I download it from?
Thanks in advance,
M_Taylor40

M_Taylor40 said:
You say that you must use the hardware version but where can I download it from?
Thanks in advance,
M_Taylor40
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PM me No Warez Allowed

wazzubrad said:
Guys, any ideas on how to flip my landscape? I started the game with the keyboard out and it still flips the screen upside down? Any ideas?
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DId you follow my steps to the tee? What rom you Have? Might be some tweaks or changes you already made thats not allowing it to work.

I did. And reviewed it three times to make sure.

dearmasfamily said:
If you have the Hardware Version then go ahead with the following.
Note: Remember Hardware and Soft version look exactly the same so theres really no way to tell the diffrence except in the size of the install. Hardware is Bigger.
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OK nevermind i have the hardware version. i know this cause when i try to start the game it says that my device is not a 3D device install the software version. why would that be though?

dearmasfamily said:
DId you follow my steps to the tee? What rom you Have? Might be some tweaks or changes you already made thats not allowing it to work.
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When you extracted the files did you make sure you unhide the 3rd DLL?

m1ke420 said:
When you extracted the files did you make sure you unhide the 3rd DLL?
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Thanks for pointing that out. I've tryed. but nothing seems to work i even commad lined it.
So i added a work around to post one. as Note 2 thanks again.

Not working on my Fuze with RRE Series 6 WM 6.5 v8.6. I did everything but the registry hack since it was already there. Replaced all files blah,blah..
I get told that my device is not a 3D device install the software version. I know I have the hardware version.

Wil Badger said:
Not working on my Fuze with RRE Series 6 WM 6.5 v8.6. I did everything but the registry hack since it was already there. Replaced all files blah,blah..
I get told that my device is not a 3D device install the software version. I know I have the hardware version.
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Like i said in my frist post theres a hardware version tweaked so ask me and i will lead the way. dont give up its a wounderful game when playable like mines
PM ME with your interest

Awesome stuff. I got it all up and running but the playing screen is like barely half of my screen when actually playing. The menus come up full screen but when actually playing it doesn't Any ideas?
Cheers

Oh bugger seems whatever I did, I stuffed up touch flo 3d eep.
Guess I have some work to do here haha.
Cheers

-wireless- said:
Awesome stuff. I got it all up and running but the playing screen is like barely half of my screen when actually playing. The menus come up full screen but when actually playing it doesn't Any ideas?
Cheers
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Go to options and make sure the game is set to High Quility Not Low OR MED.

@chefs: reward offer for "task-snoozing"

Dear Chefs,
thank you for all great work you have done so far!
I use the Energy ROM for about two months and I'm stunned about all the great features he provide.
However, there is one thing I can't stand: The lack of appointment- and task snoozing other then 5 minutes. This makes the remind function almost useless.
My German t-mobile branded TP2 (called: MDA Vario V) came with the option to snooze appointments and tasks by a selectable time. So I could choose remind me in one or half Hour for example or one day and many other options, rather than dismiss it over and over again every 5 minutes. This is really bugging me.
I found a fix from crackwhore but it seems to be not compatible with the current windows mobile 6.5 ROMs.
Because it is so important to me and, as I noticed, to many, many others I want to post a reward and invite everybody who want this feature to join me by posting how much you are willing to donate to the person who find a solution and share it with the community
A proper solution would be a fix that works for the latest generation of WM6.5 ROMs and it would be great to have it already cooked into the popular ROMs, including Energy ROM.
So if somebody finds a solution, everybody who joined me is asked to donate the promised amount to the person who provided the solution.
I start off with a offer of 10$
Feel free to join me and make suggestion.
And please be true to your word: Don't offer something you are not willing to donate.
Current Offers (25.10.2009 01:25 UTC):
10 US-$
and
0 €​

Why dont you ditch MS with another commercial application in the market? Couldn't you able to find one? I dont remember it but there was a program like this. Google it I suggest.

You can set the "reminder" time as any minutes/hours/days when you add an appointment. Am I missing something here?

NVM, I solved it! I was able to replace the new Notification.dll that handles the notification bubbles with an old, stock one. See the next post for the solution I made!
Question
Did your stock German ROM have the notification manager, where you'd click the taskbar, and it brings up that full screen? And also, did it have the skinned notifications, like the EnergyROM does? Please just describe exactly how the stock ROM handled the notifications, describe it visually.
Information
I researched this for 5 hours, and I was trying to do this: I wanted to make the Notification Panel remain (Full screen when you click on Taskbar), BUT, I wanted to use the standard Windows Mobile notification popups, because those allow you to snooze better. Well, that's not possible, from what I could tell. It's either all or nothing, you can't mix Microsoft's and HTC's notification system.
Solution
So, you have to disable the entire thing, which means you won't have the finger friendly notification system when tapping on the top taskbar. You can find the registry to disable Notification Manager here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4125405&postcount=3

Advanced Notifications Power Snooze Appointments!
I solved it!! It's CABbed up, and available on my website, Wingster.
Get your solution here: http://thewingster.com/advancednotifications.aspx
And if you want to donate, then follow the link on the bottom of my Wingster website, or use this link: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5401195
Maybe I should have waited longer, for the bounty to increase! Nah, I did this mostly for myself, but it did end up taking 5 hours! I hate registries!
How I Created It
I found the old NotificationLayout.dll, and used that one for handling the notification bubbles! This brings back the old WinMo notification style popups, but it also keeps the finger friendly notification panel! Win-win!​

Imagine how fast the world is, I wish you could solve my break off with GF such a fast.
Have Fun, Cheers
Sunny

the solution that brings the old popups up, has been around since my touch x 6.0 and that is since december last year...
well well well......

Awesome. I had used the crackwhore one and it worked but this is better

ace10134 said:
Advanced Notifications Power Snooze Appointments!
I solved it!! It's CABbed up, and available on my website, Wingster.
Get your solution here: http://thewingster.com/advancednotifications.aspx
And if you want to donate, then follow the link on the bottom of my Wingster website, or use this link: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5401195
Maybe I should have waited longer, for the bounty to increase! Nah, I did this mostly for myself, but it did end up taking 5 hours! I hate registries!
How I Created It
I found the old NotificationLayout.dll, and used that one for handling the notification bubbles! This brings back the old WinMo notification style popups, but it also keeps the finger friendly notification panel! Win-win!​
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Curious before I use this, how is it different than crackwhore's fix?

jank0023 said:
Curious before I use this, how is it different than crackwhore's fix?
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FYI, crackwhore's is a better solution it doesn't eliminate the repeat function so what happens you get the alarm one time which was just as big a concern that I've had with some of the ROMs.

jank0023 said:
FYI, crackwhore's is a better solution it doesn't eliminate the repeat function so what happens you get the alarm one time which was just as big a concern that I've had with some of the ROMs.
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shiat..might I add, you can uninstall the cab but the dll has been overwritten so some how I gotta find the original and use crackwhore's or hard reset plus crackwhores.

smaberg said:
the solution that brings the old popups up, has been around since my touch x 6.0 and that is since december last year...
well well well......
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Lol dam. Wasted that effort for nothin? lol. Well we can add mine to the collection of CABs that do the exact same thing as the other

Hi,
sorry for the delay, but university was keeping me extremely busy this week.
However I'm glad you found a solution. It's so unimaginably convenient to be able to snooze the alarm!
However would it be possible to add some options? There is still room on the display for one option isn't it?
Very handy would be having options like four and twelve hours (half day).
I would rather surrender 10 minutes while already having 5 and 15 minutes.
(or maybe better: surrender 15 minutes while keeping 10)
However the current stage of development is already great and of cause I will stand my word of donating 10 bucks.
I invite everybody who like this fix to also support him since he was fair enough of not "waiting" for the bounty to increase first and he's doing a great job with his website anyway.
Best Regards, Time
PS: You are talking about other - already existing - solutions? I only found crackwhores fix and didn't get it to work. Well now I have a great one-click-solution I won't surrender ... would be just interesting to know.
PPS:
Question
Did your stock German ROM have the notification manager, where you'd click the taskbar, and it brings up that full screen? And also, did it have the skinned notifications, like the EnergyROM does? Please just describe exactly how the stock ROM handled the notifications, describe it visually.
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By next week I will flash my ROM anyway so I could flash the stock ROM in between and check if that helps. Interested?

TheTimetraveler said:
PPS:
By next week I will flash my ROM anyway so I could flash the stock ROM in between and check if that helps. Interested?
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Yea, flash the stock German ROM, and see how that operates. It'd be very interesting if they kept the advanced snooze options while keeping the slick notification style too.
I think that editing the DLL's is impossible though, but I guess it'd be worth a try. My initial goal was to keep the skinned notifications but add the snoozing. That'd be the optimal goal, and I will try to see if that can be done!

ace10134 said:
Advanced Notifications Power Snooze Appointments!
I solved it!! It's CABbed up, and available on my website, Wingster.
Get your solution here: http://thewingster.com/advancednotifications.aspx
And if you want to donate, then follow the link on the bottom of my Wingster website, or use this link: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5401195
Maybe I should have waited longer, for the bounty to increase! Nah, I did this mostly for myself, but it did end up taking 5 hours! I hate registries!
How I Created It
I found the old NotificationLayout.dll, and used that one for handling the notification bubbles! This brings back the old WinMo notification style popups, but it also keeps the finger friendly notification panel! Win-win!​
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Sorry ace
it doesnt work for my TP2 with valkyrie.ftp v5.8.23534 wm6.5 15th feb (without footprint\doc)
the cab installs fine but no love when it comes to notifications

spiro said:
Sorry ace
it doesnt work for my TP2 with valkyrie.ftp v5.8.23534 wm6.5 15th feb (without footprint\doc)
the cab installs fine but no love when it comes to notifications
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Yourestarted your phone after installing it, right? Maybe his ROM has some different notification system...I could try to look into it if you can confirm it still didn't take effect after a restart.

ace10134 said:
Yourestarted your phone after installing it, right? Maybe his ROM has some different notification system...I could try to look into it if you can confirm it still didn't take effect after a restart.
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Yes I restarted the phone after installation but it didnt work
I would reeeeeally Appreciate it if you could look into it
You dont even need to make a .cab file, just give me some guidance on how to replace the .dll you mentioned in your post that worked

spiro said:
Yes I restarted the phone after installation but it didnt work
I would reeeeeally Appreciate it if you could look into it
You dont even need to make a .cab file, just give me some guidance on how to replace the .dll you mentioned in your post that worked
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Well.....
First, download This File, unzip it, and place the DLL in the \Windows directory of your phone.
Now, here's where it may be different, apparently. Using a registry editor (like PHM Registry), try to find the string that is called CustomUIDLL and contains NotificationLayout.dll.
That string key should be located under HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM, however since the CAB didn't work, Valkyrie must have changed the location of the registry key. See if you can find it. Once you do, change the string value to: "NotificationLayoutOld.dll"
Hopefully that'll get it working!

ace10134 said:
Well.....
First, download This File, unzip it, and place the DLL in the \Windows directory of your phone.
Now, here's where it may be different, apparently. Using a registry editor (like PHM Registry), try to find the string that is called CustomUIDLL and contains NotificationLayout.dll.
That string key should be located under HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM, however since the CAB didn't work, Valkyrie must have changed the location of the registry key. See if you can find it. Once you do, change the string value to: "NotificationLayoutOld.dll"
Hopefully that'll get it working!
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Thanks man!
Ill try it and post back

spiro said:
Thanks man!
Ill try it and post back
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OK.
Under HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM i have one folder named "reminder" and 3 other items named "default", " customUIDLL", and "userdefaultUI"
if i click on customUIDLL the string already reads "NotificationLayoutOld.dll" ( iguess from when I applied the .cab file) so there is nothing to change!
Also here is a screenshot of the contents in the HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM/reminder folder that I mentioned above
should i be editing the autodismissextendedduration file?
BTW I forgot to mention that when i install the cab file instead of "snooze' at the bottom bar I get the "menu' on the right and also another symbol on the left (like a phone with an 'x' next to it" but if i click on any of them the notification goes away and does not come back
So in essence the .cab works (because it points it to something else) but the location it point to, doesnt contain the necessary file to show up when you click on the the "menu' icon or the other icon that comes up SORRY I DIDNT MENTION THAT EARLIER BUT I WASNT AWARE OF IT TILL NOW.....

New User to Forum....Help Please!!!

Ok, I'm new to the forum I need help and honestly am really confused on how to make a new background and put in all inside tabs so I can contribute to forum discussions and make my phone better by using the site. I have an HTC Pure with a windows mobile 6.5 OS...... I'm not really hip to the new words on the forum lol..... Also being that I'm a little new to the smartphone technology world please give me step by step instructions as if I'm a total idiot lol, because I kind of am to this.
Here's what I understand so far:
In order to make the backgrounds/wallpaper you need HDWall (I dont know where to download it, so a link would be helpful)
Also I wanted to know if there was a way to possibly remove pre-installed programs without a hard reset and possibly finding a way of "unlocking" the phone to just delete them

Well if you are new-beginner I think HDwall is a bit to advanced for you , there are more simple ways to modify the background of all manila tabs...
I suggest you use BG4ALL instead, this program simply changes the background for all tabs as you requested.
*install
*soft reset
*Now as you change the wallpaper in the today screen
all other tabs will have the same background.
Since I dont know wich manila version or rom version you have ill link you to several pages were you easily can download the program.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636887
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1117129&postcount=8497
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=615077
And finally... yes you have the possibility to remove pre-installed programs but usually not all ...its a limited area in most cases.
If you do want to remove a pre-installed program you should go to Settings-->programs-->remove programs. Now if the program you want to remove from the phone is not listed, then NO you cannot remove this program.
If the program is listed then yes it will be removed, but then if you hard reset the phone will automatically reinstall it as the phone gets prepared for first time use..

And one more thing if you find it annoying to see a program icon in the startmenu, that you never use you can remove this icon from there but you do not uninstall them in any way... go to device-->windows-->start-menu and simply delete the program you wich to be removed from your start-menu...
But be careful, if you happen to delete a program by accident ... there is no way to restore that program icon in the start-menu other then doing a hardreset will recreate the start-menu to default .

Ok cool thanks for alll the help and I guess welcoming me to the forum....I guess the next appropriate question would be how do I figure out what rom I have in my phone?

Nevermind I figured it out lol I have Rom version 2.31.502.4 (66023) WWE

You're welcome

Nevermind I figured it out lol I have Rom version 2.31.502.4 (66023) WWE

I have an HTC Pure with ROM version 2.31.502.4 and manilla 2.1.19183217.0 (as I suspect williamsn4 also has) I tried the second link (for manilla 2.1) but it had no effect. i.e. changing the background only changes it in programs as with or w/o BG4ALL. Any suggestions?

[ROM] Testing release of 23668

Hi
After a month I decided to cook something new.
Here is test release of new rom for our himalaya
Fixed problems from latest stable 23563:
- IE works great jupi
- Phone control panel came back in Personal tab
- 2 original ringtones
- MUCH stable xip, stablier system
- New wallpaper, oh yeah it is important
- Contact app works faster
- Updated MediaOS
- New organization of OS package, seems like rebuild
What is needed to test?
- Everything
- Timebomb (don't know I removed it)
- GPRS
- Last bugs, ex. installing apps
Screens in attachment
Link is:
http://www.4shared.com/file/UkjvCpnY/TEST23668.html
This version may be final as built now, so really test it hard.
Happy testing

keyboard
how about cooking in a skin for the keyboard?
will look much better

thank you friend.
thank you aeroflyluby.
rom verygood.andvery nice.

tnx for this sir luby ... downloading........

So, any bugs? Should it be final release? Does wallpaper is too bright?

aeroflyluby said:
So, any bugs? Should it be final release? Does wallpaper is too bright?
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Just about to say, that wallpapers nice and floral!

Nice! downloading now
Will update soon
Regards

Hello. Just installed it. I think the bridge background was good. I am not sure if it is showing in others but my device show "shadow" with text and because the background is white it doesn't look good. So personally I'd get the bridge again .
Other than that so far its working smoothly
Will report more soon
Regards
Jay

I'll give this ROM a go now.
Just a question though, is there a way to change the button/menu style to the flat/black buttons? Not a fan of these new "bubble" buttons

Clontarf[X] said:
I'll give this ROM a go now.
Just a question though, is there a way to change the button/menu style to the flat/black buttons? Not a fan of these new "bubble" buttons
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it is flat...

I attach for you 2 wallpapers
Which one should I choose to default?
Both are done by my at today with nikon d40 I love my girlfriend's nikon

ROM Tests great!
Thanks Aeroflyluby, of all the ROMS I have tested on the Himalaya, this is easily the best, fastest, and most usable. Awesome!
I would prefer the Background of the Kiwi Fruit over the flowers.
Only small issue with Calendar in WM6.5. Due to larger font can only see a few hours in "Day View", which means you have to scroll up and down to see all appointments in a day. Is there any way to change Day View to see most of the day like with WM6.1?
Keep up the good work.

tqis said:
Thanks Aeroflyluby, of all the ROMS I have tested on the Himalaya, this is easily the best, fastest, and most usable. Awesome!
I would prefer the Background of the Kiwi Fruit over the flowers.
Only small issue with Calendar in WM6.5. Due to larger font can only see a few hours in "Day View", which means you have to scroll up and down to see all appointments in a day. Is there any way to change Day View to see most of the day like with WM6.1?
Keep up the good work.
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Ok kiwi fruit will be in release
Thanks for reporting calendar issue, I checked it and it is true, I just have to do a smaller font. Thanks
Continue testing ;>

downloading, your rom is my best choice, luby. sorry for my english

incase if you'r stuck, here is the method to remove the timebomb
hex edit the S000 in Shell.exe and search for HEX 0000004AB2FFFFEB (if this is still present, its not patched) or HEX 0000004A0000A0E1 (if this is present, it is patched). then cook & flash

Ather said:
incase if you'r stuck, here is the method to remove the timebomb
hex edit the S000 in Shell.exe and search for HEX 0000004AB2FFFFEB (if this is still present, its not patched) or HEX 0000004A0000A0E1 (if this is present, it is patched). then cook & flash
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Okay thanks, I will implement it in kitchen for automatic timebomb removal )

hey aeroflyluby
if u need a skin for the keyboard its contained in "msim.96.dll"
i will upload a "msim.96.dll" so u can get the bitmap out of it to use in your kitchen i extracted it out of a installed ROM with ROMextractor and found the bitmap with res hacker
because i used ROMextractor it is no longed digitally signed with the WM 6.5 certificates
uploaded in a .7z file so u can get the bitmap as is out of the .dll

advanced15 said:
if u need a skin for the keyboard its contained in "msim.96.dll"
i will upload a "msim.96.dll" so u can get the bitmap out of it to use in your kitchen i extracted it out of a installed ROM with ROMextractor and found the bitmap with res hacker
because i used ROMextractor it is no longed digitally signed with the WM 6.5 certificates
uploaded in a .7z file so u can get the bitmap as is out of the .dll
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Okay it looks pretty good, I would do a negative of it, but we will seee

HTC Task Manager
On testing a few apps designed for WM5/6.1, that have a toolbar along the bottom of the screen, so the WM6.5 StartBar is not visable, and therefore can't close the app except by using menu system, and selecting "Exit".
Is there any way to get back the HTC Taskbar, so we can have a task manager with "X" in the top right corner to manage these apps?
Thanks...

tqis said:
On testing a few apps designed for WM5/6.1, that have a toolbar along the bottom of the screen, so the WM6.5 StartBar is not visable, and therefore can't close the app except by using menu system, and selecting "Exit".
Is there any way to get back the HTC Taskbar, so we can have a task manager with "X" in the top right corner to manage these apps?
Thanks...
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If you want it, install it. I won't include it.
You can assign any button to OK/Close