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I have been recently messing about flashing various WM6 ROM's to see which one I might settle on, however I have come across one issue which annoys me so much that I would choose not to go down the WM6 route.
On the phone dialler I now have a bar going across the screen which displays two lines of my contacts. I don't want this. I want the usual phone layout that I have used for the past dozen ROM upgrades.
Is there a way to remove this? I have tried all the settings on the phone but to no avail. Will it dissapear if I re-skin the phone with something from Eten?
What surprises me is that I have not seen anyone else mentioning it on any of the WM6 threads - Does everyone like this new layout?

Vista Dialer
I also found this annoying. I downloaded the following
Jimm98y_vista_dialer.zip
in the development/hacking section. I think it is much better than the old WM5
dialer skin. You can see the screen shots there.

You will probably also need to edit smartskey.ini to allow the dpad to function in the Phone app. With the Underground ROM that was a pain if I remember correctly as it is a system and RO file. I ended up making a cab that created a \Program Files\Smartskeyand copied my smartskey files to that folder. Then stopping smartskey, deleting the shortcut in \Startup and then running Smartskey from the \Program Files folder.
What a PIA! Another reason I went back to the Orwell ROM (after I took the green comm manager with me..)

Tony Simmonds said:
I also found this annoying. I downloaded the following
Jimm98y_vista_dialer.zip
in the development/hacking section. I think it is much better than the old WM5
dialer skin. You can see the screen shots there.
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Thanks Tony. Just done it and it worked a beaut.

Today Big clock

What cab is the Big Clock I see on e all the today screens called and where can I get it for my at&t tilt ??

You can try this: Its called HTC home plugin. if you have vga screen there is a thread for it here on this forum. Just search htc home vga

Thanks that was it
How does one edit what is shown.
I do not need all the extras

is there a way to back this out if you dont like the way it looks?

Dont mean to hijack the thread but I would like to know as well, I like the plug in but the clock is to big any way to make it smaller ?
thanks

God these newbies are relentless... You answer one question (one that could have been solved via search or more over just READING the thread with the pictures of the clock you like. Instead of just looking at the pictures) and you get several follow up posts that could be answered in the same fashion...
Its like answering them just enables their lazy attitude.
Enough rant.
UNINSTALL IT. If you don't know how to do that. READ YOUR MANUAL.
As for the other one, search. Hell, just click through some menus.
And the other, does not get smaller (that I know of) with advanced modification to the plug-in.
Later, Lew
P.S. That was a long over due rant.

Delete MY POST Please

Guys,
I agree...but also disagree...
Agree: newbies/noobs should always read before they ask, use google, use search, rtfm, etc.
Disagree: just ignore the stupid questions, and if you have time, answer them (with a hint to why it's stupid, they might...possibly...eventually...learn! )...
Last but not least: google/search for HHC (HTC Home Customizer), the best HTC Home editor (AFAIK) which allows you to change the font, buttons, etc.
Regards,
Nika.

Hi,
I'm relatively new to flashing and trying different ROMs but with the help of this forum, I think im getting there.....slowly at least.
That was until I installed this application for the big clock on the today screen, im runnning a winodws mobile 6.1 ROM and just assumed (for some reason) this would work.
After installation of the big clock mod, my phone just keeps resetting its self, over and over.
I'm hoping that i can fix the problem by flashing a new ROM, however the phone wont stay on long enough for me to sync it then run the ROM utility.
Is there a way of putting the phone in boot loader then running the flash application from the computer?
Thanks

Throttle Launcher (TouchFLO 3D)

ThrottleLauncher is a launcher app designed for Windows Mobile 6. Basically it consist's of several pages containing rows. Each of the rows depending of it contents can be scrolled horizontally by using the finger. The app is fully configurable through xml files so the rest of the features depends on the diferent setups.
Essentially, this is probably the clossest we can get to the new TouchFLO 3D (codename: Manilla) software to run on our low powered Wing/Herald/p4350.
Version 0.9.1 is in beta testing, and will be available to the public soon, you can watch the videos here.
You must download both CAB files and install them (order does not matter) and softreset when finished.
The official thread can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390553

Screen shots

Looks pretty cool, thanks for sharing, I'll have to try it out!

Can't delete registry key
Hi there. I tried to delete the registry key, but system won't allow me. I love the program, but my system runs really slow.

Taninpv said:
Hi there. I tried to delete the registry key, but system won't allow me. I love the program, but my system runs really slow.
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What registry key are you talking about?

nKiwan said:
ThrottleLauncher is a launcher app designed for Windows Mobile 6. Basically it consist's of several pages containing rows. Each of the rows depending of it contents can be scrolled horizontally by using the finger. The app is fully configurable through xml files so the rest of the features depends on the diferent setups.
Essentially, this is probably the clossest we can get to the new TouchFLO 3D (codename: Manilla) software to run on our low powered Wing/Herald/p4350.
Version 0.9.1 is in beta testing, and will be available to the public soon, you can watch the videos here.
You must download both CAB files and install them (order does not matter) and softreset when finished.
The official thread can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390553
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Dont try and install the latest beta version on top of the throttle rom it screws up the existing one built into the rom and the new beta doesn't work either and you have to hard reset

why shot it down cause U can't get it to work
djp76 said:
Dont try and install the latest beta version on top of the throttle rom it screws up the existing one built into the rom and the new beta doesn't work either and you have to hard reset
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you did not read the instructions .. u have to disable TL frm the today screen then soft reset then install the new one ...
ALL BULIDS OF THROTTLE LAUNCHER ARE BETA
using the 9.3 beta verison with ttarons rom n love it
when u come in here saying it messed things up u need to let people kno u didn't bother to read all the instructions just like alll the other lazy people in these fourms
if u need any more help go here ..http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/

dan0zone said:
you did not read the instructions .. u have to disable TL frm the today screen then soft reset then install the new one ...
ALL BULIDS OF THROTTLE LAUNCHER ARE BETA
using the 9.3 beta verison with ttarons rom n love it
when u come in here saying it messed things up u need to let people kno u didn't bother to read all the instructions just like alll the other lazy people in these fourms
if u need any more help go here ..http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/
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inexperienced yes, lazy no i have only just come back on the web after my last post and i came back on here to correct my post so calling me lazy is a bit harsh really.
Apoligies to everyone danozone is correct in what he says i didnt turn of the launcher in the today options, i find the rom with the launcher built in better than the app though,having the launcher running as a program on screen can be a bit annoying with accidental closing of it.

nKiwan said:
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how can I get my ppc 6800 to look like this one and what apps ...

So we cannot get our WING to look exactly like the HTC Diamond with Touchflo3D on it?
If no, why is it so? is it because the WING is only 200Mhz and the Diamond is 528Mhz?
I have installed Throttlelauncher but I have too much trouble setting up and using it and I thought there may be a ROM ported from the Diamond onto the WING directly from HTC.

Can someone please point me to the exact instructions for installing the throttle launcher and touchflo 3D. I need the idiots version because I have never installed cab files or anything like that.
Thanks

i got it running on my mogul great my only issue is i cant get my pixz and my weather is in c and i need it in F can anybody help me with these 2 things?

Elle-Cie: Thats basics you should not need ask in this forum (or any forum, since google answers the question for you) but:
Simply transfer the cab file to the device in any way you like, and run it from the file browser to install. Or install using active sync.
About the app:
-Full screen does not work wit the TF3D theme. (replace taskbar)
-->The bar is not at the top of the screen. (It is room for about one more bar above it), and the navigation line disappears below the bottom of the screen.
-->When it does not disappear below the screen, it disappears below the bottom WM-bar (the one with "phone" and "contacts" on it)
-->When neither of the above happens, The keyboard-icon (to toggle on-screen keyboard) is on top of throttlelauncher, and makes navigation difficult.
Forgot to mention: I am using i780 with a 320x320 resolution, so I guess this might be related to my screen size not beeing supported. It would be nice if it could be, though.
There are also a font issue in the calendar-tab. The dates doesn't really fit in the grid - they are too big.

i tried installing this but it give me an error and now it lauching on its own but again all it gives me is an error

where do i download them to? plz help

To download: www.throttlelauncher.com
About other posts: please try last version and compatible themes, as last version is not compatible with old themes. And take care about the compatibility with your screen size, if the theme is designed for a determinate screen.
More: If your problem is related to Throttlelauncher but not tothe Herald, use the main throttlelauncher thread in (non-device-depending) Software section. Also in the developer's web.

Can the 'Program tab' be expanded and more…

Hi,
I have two questions regarding my Touch Diamond.
1st) When we look at the program tab we get 2 sections allowing (3x3) 9 shortcuts to a program. I would like to know it this tab can be modified to store more shortcuts
2nd) At HTC.com there is a new ROM update. When I look at my ROM version, it says: 1.37.172.3 NLD (I suppose this is an older version).
I was wondering if installing this update would delete my default programs.
My phone is from Vodafone and has by default certain preinstalled programs installed by Vodafone on it. If I were to lose these programs, I would lose access to certain features that I use
Hope someone can answer this for my.
Cheers!

2) Yeah, unfortunately flashing the ROM will erase all your settings/installed programs.

1) Sorry, I don't know how to answer this one.
2)Yes. With the new ROM, your phone will lose all the installed programs. Contact Vodafone and try to know if they are releasing this update with their programs already instaled.
On the other hand, you can try to save all your programs with an application called "Sashimi" that saves your programs in order to restore them after a ROM upgrade.

Mbn.Iridium said:
Hi,
I have two questions regarding my Touch Diamond.
1st) When we look at the program tab we get 2 sections allowing (3x3) 9 shortcuts to a program. I would like to know it this tab can be modified to store more shortcuts
2nd) At HTC.com there is a new ROM update. When I look at my ROM version, it says: 1.37.172.3 NLD (I suppose this is an older version).
I was wondering if installing this update would delete my default programs.
My phone is from Vodafone and has by default certain preinstalled programs installed by Vodafone on it. If I were to lose these programs, I would lose access to certain features that I use
Hope someone can answer this for my.
Cheers!
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1st) yes... you can... but unfortunately I can't remember how. try a search, but I was reading that it's very simple to do...

Thank for you answers all.
Pretty weird that there is a rom update, but that my service provider does not support this. Iow I am forced to keep the current version.
@ Leopardone: That is great, too bad that when searching these forum on 'Program tab' it gives too much results to accurately find something.

leopardone said:
1st) yes... you can... but unfortunately I can't remember how. try a search, but I was reading that it's very simple to do...
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Actually, you can't. What you can do, is add more buttons. Unfortunately, you can't put any link in those which makes the whole procedure rather useless.

I thought there was a registry tweak to add a few. I'll check into it.
EDIT: Nope, above poster is right.

There's a registry tweak around here that shortens the distance between icons and fits more icons to Programs panel. Search for it.

Suggest a Rom and GUI for me.

OK, my first post so be gentle.
I have MDA Vario that has been flashed with TPCElite series V11 MEGA wm6.5 23017. It also has the touchflo GUI running. Now having tried it for a week (only just purchased it a week ago) I can say that I'm not a fan of the touchflo prog. It seems to hang on occasions and I often end up selecting something I didn't want only to find the phone connecting to the net. So I have switched it off. There is a windows default one that is working fine, but I can't see a way to customise the menu so I can add what I want to it.
So my dilemma. Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards - this way I can uninstall it if I don't like it. Or should I just leave it deselected and install a new one? Will this have any performance/memory issues - ie is the lite rom a better way to go.
I had a Mio PDA with iLauncher on it and I liked the ability to add my own shortcuts etc.
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI? Been looking at Manila 2D v2 but I want to be able to customise the main menu and I don't want it sluggish.
One final thing. Is it possible to get the phone to ask permission before connecting via gprs rather than scurrying around for the disconnect. I've looked through the menus but can't find anything. Don't mind using it if I want it, just fed up of it dialing it by mistake -(I have sausage fingers.)

i recommend the t.i.r element v5 rom. ive been thru many roms including the tpc series that you have tried and i find that t.i.r element v5 is the best w/ smooth graphics, great gui (full landscape support etc.) i cant post a link as of now since i am new to posting on xda so please look it up and give it a shot!

Is there a CLI version of a rom for this phone or is someone just trying too sound fancy? Since when is touchflu a GUI? I am totally confused.
Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards
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Uh my head is hurting make it stop.. SOMEONE REPLIED TO THIS?? awmg
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI
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I am so confused, it's like trying to mess with a womans bra (Full Landscape support) for the first time, what do I do.. do I call her new hair doo a pair of panties? AAAHHHHHHHH
Stylez close this **** down.. REASON.... Doesn't make any sense at all..
I used the GUI version of this forum to reply.. Thanks.

hi DTBrum,
touchflo - i never liked it too, don't know which files are responsible for its running and if it could be removed, seems like it's part of needed htc drivers to me, but this will switch it off completely:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableScroll"=dword:00000000
"EnableCube"=dword:00000000
you need a registry editor to change those values.
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you can't replace gui, or you can theoretically but what you mean is sort of launcher, or today manager. I tried more and didn't like any, they all seems to be laggy to me.
windows in default uses today screen and start menu, it's the same way as in pc edition, there are folders with shortcuts in them for start menu
look in \windows\start menu folder. and on today screen, you can set what you want to see there in settings/today
I use start replacement called quickmenu which is a very small prg with lots of tweaks.
if you don't like those fancy launchers and controls, better you make your own rom. it's very easy with tools from xda. nearly all custom roms lite or full you'll find here have some kind of launchers and today replacement already in them and it's hard to remove or disable them.
there is a lot of different apps like iLauncher, you can install/uninstall.
no one will recommend you any custom rom here, you need to go through trying one after another because everybody's preferences differs. look in wiki.
automatic connect. no, there is no way to disable this. you can use app called 'nodata' but then you'll have to run it to enable/disable every time you want to use internet. But it solves problems in roaming.
Some programs can be set to not auto dial. and another option is, you can set a fake internet connection, make it default and then when you want to go online you'll dial the real one manually. But you may find that some programs would not want to use other then default connection.
and don't get discouraged here on forum, some people are smart here, true, but not all of us here get born that way.

Thankx for the replies.
What I found with touchflo was that there are occasions where I try to scroll from left to right and nothing happens, then all of a sudden I find it has selected something like maps or internet and the phone is trying to connect to the net. Then it starts responding normally. So as a front end user interface for me I'm not that keen on it. Also I can't see a way to remove the categories sucj as maps, and add my own. I have a registry editor and will try changing the values suggested and see if that helps. I'll do a search for the other bits recommended.
Apologies ChumleyEX, not sure if I used the correct terminology. For me a program such as touchflo is an alternative GUI that sits on top of the windows GUI. Just want to know if there are better, more reliable ones. Doesn't have to be fancy. I want to be able to customise it and for it to be quick and responsive.

Sorry I'm sure I was too harsh, I was feeling a little too good last night.

No problem ChumleyEX - no harm done.
Papo - thanks for you time and help, you cleared a few things up for me. Registry edited and touchflo now disabled.
As I said I've only had this device a week and only just found this site recently, so I'm not really up on the terminology so I'm hoping you can look past my shortcomings please. I'll get there. I'm no novice with pc's or pda's but I'm not in the same league as most people on here I admit.
My question about installing an alternative to touchflo was because some of these other programs such as ilauncher like to be installed to the device memory rather than storage card. I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that. I have no option to remove touchflo.
I was hoping that by describing what I was after people would recommend something that fits the bill. But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of. There is some really nice work here on this site - so tempted to give it a go. I guess we all like different things so it's a matter of personal choice really. Key for me is functionality/responsiveness. It's no good if the interface gets in the way no matter how good it looks.
Off to read some reviews of roms on here now. I'll check out t.i.r element v5 as suggested by agent1001 first.

dude, stop fretting and just try out as many ROMs as you can...and remember to search and read a LOT! it will help in the long run to build your concepts.
i have TWO more suggestions/clarifications for you:
1. you might have big fingers, but what i suspect is that you are using your device as if it has a capacitive screen...which it doesn't. the kaiser (like many htc phones) has a resistive screen. essentially, what this means is that the screen will respond best with a good amount of pressure, applied at a point. so the best suggestion i can give you that will tremendously improve your experience with the device is...use your finger NAILS! the effect is as if you are using a stylus and once you get used to it, any "GUI" will become usable.
2. what you call a "GUI" is not a GUI, technically. this is what chumleyex was alluding to. these "GUIs" run as today screen plugins. they are just that...they are "today screen plugins"...also called "home screen" in other contexts of discussion. you can have many such plugins installed on your device. you can even have many such plugins running at once on your today screen. however, some take over the today screen completely, so you can only use them exclusively. manila2d/manila3d, spb mobile shell, and quite a few others are such kinds of today screen plugins. installing multiple such plugins only takes up storage space. RUNNING multiple such plugins is like running many applications at once...which will consume memory and may slow down the phone, etc, etc.
as always, you should have read the forum rules...which clearly state that "best of" threads or "suggest me a <insert requirement here>" style threads are against the forum rules. which leads me to believe that you probably haven't read the other "stickies" and "wikis" either. start there and then you'll find yourself asking a lot less basic questions that clutter up the forum. don't be surprised if this thread is closed soon by a forum mod. cheers.

Thanks ASCIIker - screen is more responsive with more pressure. Guess I was worried about cracking it.
I did do loads of reading before posting - mainly to do with how to, hard spl, soft spl, roms, radio threads. Sorry if I missed the bit about asking for recommendations.

DTBrum said:
I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that.
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I get the feeling that you think those fancy things in full custom ROMs are taking up space. they are not. and not using them, disabling them, or deleting shortcuts from start menu would do the same as uninstalling.
you've got:
flash memory - (ROM)
int. memory - think about it as HDD: depends, typicaly little over 100MB
RAM, operating memory, like on PC another 100MB: to be used by progs.
those names differs, to add confusion, some refers to int.memory as ROM
MS bloatware & fancy stuff from custom ROMs which you don't want could still rest in peace in ROM and not bothering you. you'll still have your 100MB int.mem. And as long as they are not actively running you still will have 100 RAM and no processor power used. but exactly like mentioned every plugin on today screen means it's running too. get an fdc task manager or alternative to see all processes and other stuff running. (not just tasks) You can find a way to disable nearly everything.
I have no option to remove touchflo.
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I don't think there is any. even with ultra lite, i could be mistaken with this, but i tried hard and it looks like it's part of required htc drivers. so you only could disable it...at least! i hated it too no matter about fingers. it seems better on htc pro2 anyway.
But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of.
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yep, the look would be the main difference i'll say.
but if you want functionality/responsiveness, than you probably better stick with using start button and today screen without unnecessary additions.
* installing on SD card means it will go much slower and (at least on my kaiser) will sometime create errors on card from crashed apps and when I dropped phone or it died w/o shutdown or when contacts on SD card get loosed. many times I even lost complete SD contents.
You have 100MB of int.mem!! it would love to be used by progs.
I suggest you to try all of available and up-to-date custom ROMs then after getting an idea of what is doing what, just mix your own rom. it's a matter of check-in what you want inside basically. and you can add your own stuff too. like programs you buy or are not in any ROM. I have over 110MB of programs fitted in ROM and still 100MB int.mem. and speed of the device and ram is not affected too, because i let only 3 - 4 apps from that running in background.

Well I've tried flashing it and had to visit the toilet as things didn't go well.
I flashed with a lite rom, plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install a nice front end/today screen/touchflo etc to the device when I settled on one I liked.
Rom flashed fine - quite like it.
Radio didn't go well. Got stuck at the dreaded tri coloured screen.
Mtty.exe didn't recover it either.
Visited toilet.
Flashed back to standard rom from manufacturer. All now back up and running.
Have changed underpants.
At least I was able to use the info on here to get it back up and running OK.
Problem was a write error flashing the suggested radio - at 99% got an error 226.

DTBrum said:
plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install
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check my previous post.
try flashing from SD card, a lot of troubles with cable/pc/connector
format small (256MB) SD card with FAT32,
rename ruu_signed.nbh file to KAISIMG.NBH place on root of SD
hold camera button and start or reset pda

I think to be honest I'm a little paranoid about keeping the device memory free. The reason is my wife has an O2 Orbit which was running wm5. It has been updated to WM6 and she has very little free storage memory at all on the device to the point where we have struggled getting some programs installed. I know most give you the option to install to storage card or device, but some don't. Also the ones that do install on the storage card often put some files onto the device, such as help or configuration files.
I know this HTC has a lot more memory so it probably isn't an issue in reality.
I'm up to speed about the different types of memory and whether an app is consuming processing power or just storage space depending upon if it running or not. I just didn't have a chance to read your reply before I posted- wife wanted the PC back. And I was relieved just to have the phone back working.
Papo - thanks for you help. Really appreciate it.

I had my tilt for 2 years and never worried about memory.

OK, flashed the phone a couple of times yesterday and I've now found a rom I like a lot. Even the GUI - touchflo - works like a dream and with the programs that came with the rom I can even customise it how I like. It's smooth, quick and I am yet to discover a bug.
I'll give it a run for a couple of weeks and if I decide to keep this then I'll donate.
Interestingly I flashed back to stock rom from T Mobile through links I found on here. Worked without a problem, provided a 6ft+ 16stone bloke is happy with everything in pink. So I then flashed back to the standard HTC rom wm6.1 and had lots of problems. Basic things like selecting tick boxes didn't even work well.
I understand that everyone wants different things from their phones, how they look etc and that is why it is impossible to say which rom is best. But through this site, I have a customised phone that runs so smooth and quickly and looks damn smart. So at the moment I am well chuffed.
The only really difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them and the backup I took was incomplete as I only backed up the sim and not the phone. D'oh. Anyway I've now sorted this out as I found all the old contacts in outlook deleted items. I restored them back to the contacts folder and synced them again and it's all now back up and running.
Off to have a play
If she lets me I may even flash the wifes O2 Orbit XDA. It's been upgraded from wm5 to wm6 and the new rom leaves very little free memory on the device itself and we do struggle at times getting some software onto it. The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device. I have manually moved it back to the SD card and made new shortcuts etc, but I feel a new rom from this site would be the way to go.
Thank you to all who helped me.

DTBrum said:
difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them
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activeSync & outlook played tricks on me too, deleting or doubling all contacts... even easier than backing up by backup program, is to copy 'RAW' database in pda before re-flashing. it's all in one file called PIM.VOL in root of phone. calendar is there as well. you can copy this to SD and upon reflashing copy back to root of pda and see what PC's outlook will have to say to it. or just keep on SD as 2nd backup.
note, the file may be locked by running programs (contacts, messages, home plugin) kill them from taskman in that case.
The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device.
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tomtom app is two files tomtom nav.exe and data.chk, put them anywhere you like and the rest, config files, will be created by it.
but it runs really slow from SD. and taking 13MB, so again, it's best to have them in ROM.