so i dropped my phone in a lake and this happened....HELP - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

so i dropped my phone in a lake and this happened....HELP - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

it all works totally fine.....
EXCEPT the e and w keys on the keyboard don't work
i have an AT&T tilt and was hoping someone new how to reprogram the button functions
i want to take the w and e keys and swtich them with the "ok" and "tab" keys on the bottom of the keyboard....
just totally switch the two buttons so that i can use the @ and ? signs when i press the "Fn" key
i never end up using the tab or ok keys on the keyboard anyway
i was hoping to make cab i could install like the tilt keyboard fix cab
only thing is
i don't know how to reprogram the keys or make a cab
any help would be greatly appreciated please pm me
UPDATE i just looked at my keyboard and was thinking to switch the w with the start menu key and the e with the tab key
thanks guys

Good to hear that your device is still (mostly) working after beeing dropped into a lake.
What did you do afterwards, how did you dry the device?

best thing to do is lay it out on a towel and leave it alone near a draft for acouple of days. let it totally dry out. if that dont work then you got some cleaning to do.

drying out
good 2 here phone still works, im guessing, but it sounds like u may still have some water under those keys (tiny droplets). The best way of drying a wet phone (or any gadget)(disasembled?(taken apart!)) is to place in as sealed container (airtight) filled with rice. The science is the rice will naturally soak up all the moisure around it. I've never tested it first hand but sounds like it should work. I think leaving it for 3 days in the rice should make it work. Good luck

you can also take it apart and completely submerse each peice separately in a highly volatile solution(rubbing alcohol will work, but i used ethanol), take it out and scrub for about five minutes with a toothbrush in all possible directions and then air dry on a towel for two days, yes it is time consuming but i left a test phone in water for three days and tried this and the phone worked perfectly

Buy New Keyboard
Expensive option is to replace the keyboard. If you go on eBay and do a search for Tytn 2 Covers or something alone thouse lines there are a couple of sellers that sell replacement covers that have the keyboards build it, and on the wiki page there are a couple of links to disasembly guides. Think replacements where around £50uk - Expensive and fiddly maybe, but your'll have a mark free case and fully working keyboard.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160244005122
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360055816270
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250253843809

Rice is the best option I always recommend this. It has worked for me many times

thanks guys.....i actually dropped it in the lake about a month or so ago, i just finally got around to posting about my non working keyboard....i ended up taking it apart and letting it dry on my window sill in the sun for a full day and a half or so....
you really think there is still some water under the keyboard after a whole month....the e and w keys are the only things not working i just figured that something fried that spot on the circuit board or something along those lines....
does anyone know how to reprogram the keys on the keyboard? is it some registry setting? all i really need to do is switch some keys functions
perhaps ill try the rice thing tonight thanks guys

You may want to PM TaurusBullba or __Alex__ and ask them for help. I know that TaurusBullba posted the Tilt Keyboard Fix for HTC Roms (Remapping the hardware keys to the correct letters). Also, IIRC, __Alex__ posted the fix for TyTN II's using AT&T Roms.
Actually, if you search for their posts, they may mention how they did it.

so here's a going to bed and hoping when i wake up someone has helped me fix this bump....
im gonna go get some rice tomorrow after work
ill PM bulba and alex then as well
thanks everyone whos given advice....i really appreciate it
ill definitely post my results to help any future "phone in lake droppers"
~j

AEKmap will let you remap the keyboard keys. I was using it with my Hermes to account for different phone/ROM difference. I don't remember 100% if it will let you remap the special keys too, but I think so.

Very nice to hear our phone can survive a full dunk. Mine fell out of my belt clip case while walking. I tried to catch it with my foot and to my horror, ended up drop-kicking it 10' end over end in a dirt/gravel parking lot. Picked it up, blew the dust off, put the battery cover back on, and it fired right up. I thought for sure it was a goner.
My hat is off to the HTC team for building a $500 device that can take abuse.

PQZII is another option for remapping the keys.

KMFM$ said:
You may want to PM TaurusBullba or __Alex__ and ask them for help. I know that TaurusBullba posted the Tilt Keyboard Fix for HTC Roms (Remapping the hardware keys to the correct letters). Also, IIRC, __Alex__ posted the fix for TyTN II's using AT&T Roms.
Actually, if you search for their posts, they may mention how they did it.
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What TaurusBulba and I did is just take the keyboard layout registry entries from a ROM (AT&T for TaurusBulba, HTC for me) and dump it to a cab, so AT&T users can use HTC ROMs and vice versa.
I do seem to remember yet another thread which tells you how to actually map keys and it may be linked in the wiki.
Hope this helps!

Most likely your problem is coming from "dirt/minerals/gunk" that dried on either the PCB or under the keys. Dunking it in a high volatile solution and swishing it around, or similar, may help. Obviously remove the battery!

O_O
your phone can swimm..
thats cool...

always wanna know . . . . . . . . . . does it float?
LOL . . . .dropped my old siemens M65 off the boat, it worked for 30 mins on 5m depth, but never found it back . . .

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Unresponsive/heavy QWERTY keys

Hello fellow Kaiser users,
I don't know if this happened only with me or others have experienced the same.
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
Is there a solution?
It is really bugging me when I'm typing an SMS or typing something down.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Hardware suggestions also I will try on my own risk.

fireblade63 said:
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
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Same problem here, but I started noticing it after 4/5 months of use. Would like to know about a solution also.

I feel your pain, this is what is really killing me because the keyboard is a very big part of the phone, and I've only been using it for 7 months. If i knew it would become this unresponsive i would of got an i phone because this phones on screen keyboard and transcriber is useless.

It happened to me after 7 months. The "c" key on my tilt started to become unresponsive so I called up at&t and had it warranty exchanged for a refurb. This second one was already even worse than the one I'd just sent back, so I had them send out another one. This third one is fine, although the "c" key (again, oddly enough) doesn't click like the others. It's responsive, but feels a little different. I didn't feel like going through the exchange process again, so for now I'm living with it.

My 1 month old refurb tilt doesn't type the keys when I press them sometimes. I should have that fixed. I thought it was a software problem...
My brand new XPS M1530 does the same thing sometimes. I guess I reckoned it was just me not pressing on the keys hard enough or something like that...

So I'm not the only one with the problem...
But no solution?!
Even a hint of what might be causing this would help..

have you guys tried using the disable XT9 cab ?

yes
I think it is H/W cleaning related
How to clean is the deal...

you can find disassembling guides on mikechannon's web. just follow the disassembling instructions and after you remove keyboard, try cleaning it.

Same problem for me.
I'm always very carefull with my device, and don't use the hardware keyboard very often.
Now for some letters I really have to press harder to make them work.
I have my device for only 6 or 7 months.

Have had my Kaiser for 6 months now and the Y and B keys are starting to go out. For the past couple weeks I have been considering sending it in for warranty exchange but I have taken very good care of my Kaiser and worry about what I would get back...

Anyone eager enough tried disasembling and cleaning?
Moreover, did it work?
funny thing here is that I get more unresponsiveness in the right side of the keyboard (enter; L; P; direction keys).
It is a real pain...

Most prolly will do it soon
Will let you all know of the outcome

Same here.
Had mine 8 months, the W key is worst, takes a really heavy press to get it to work, has been like that for about 5 months.
Now the B is also getting bad, so is the S.
If i'm likely to get a refurb back i guess i'll just put up with it until my contract is up.

I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.

Hey man,
since you had quite some ppls share of PPCs;
did you disassemble any of them before?
Do you think it's a good idea to do it myself?
I'm extra careful normally but I'm having doubts
kdskamal said:
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
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Similar problems here with my Tilt. FN, CAP/SHIFT, N are all problematic for me.
Has anyone tried a spray liquid electronic "contact cleaner" on a device like this before?

Weird
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?

killerbeans said:
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
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You are correct sir! Just run "disable xt9" (found plenty of places on the kaiser forum) and your problem should be fixed.

I too have had this problem. I noticed it with the d, r, and space bar keys. Interestingly enough the keys that i press often (Take A for example [I have it mapped to the A button in PocketNesterPlus]) aren't hard to press at all. What I'm trying right now is pressing the problem keys over and over again to see if they "loosen up". Best Case Scenario: It works. Worst Case Scenario: I ruin an expensive piece of equipment.
Update: This might be working. To test which keys were unresponsive i typed abcdefghijklmnop.... without exerting any extra effort. The keys w and r didn't show up so i kept working them. I repeated the test and I got r to work. perhaps i am unknowingly pressing r harder, or perhaps not.

Some keys not responsive

I have been using my Xperia X1 for couple of months and since I'm a heavy user of the slide-out keyboard (for Internet, SMS, e-mails etc), I noticed that some of the keys especially on the lower side, such as the Fn (blue) C, V, N, spacebar and dot (.) keys are not as responsive as other keys. I need some extra "push" on the affected keys compared to other keys. This is irritating since the letters would be "skipped" if I type fast and I always need to backspace and correct it.
I suspect it might be due to some mechanical issues on the keys and not related to the phone's software, is there a way I can fix this? Shall I bring it to the service centre since it's still under warranty?
Thanks in advance.

im starting to experience this thing too. For some reason the spacebar button needed to be press harder. ITs quite irritating because i dont like to prees button that hard when im typing

I am also experiencing a similar issue, mainly the 'v' key that irritates me, it will either not respond or be like 'vvv' when I press it.. I presume this is a hardware issue?

im thinking about getting it back to shop for a repair. But that'll take a while or so to fix the keyboard etc.
And yes, i think it is a hardware issue.

Looks like the same problem
I can't realise that I have to press harder, but the issue with the lost or double letter seems the same it's the 'n' and 'm' in my case... very annnoyinnng
below is my post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495897
So, if it's hardware, means they fix it and after two month it starts again on heavy users???

i have the same problem too. my friend(use to work at SE service center ) suggest i go down and change the keyboard. as long and it's under warranty it's free.
my space button on the 'right' side needs extra effort. while on the 'left' side it's fine, but i'm use to using my right thumb to press space. and my fullstop button too.

my space is kapo!

Yes, my left space bar is less responsive as well and it can be quite irritating sometimes...

random multiple letters
Meh, I seem to be getting keyboard issues with mine too. Example:
o, p, l, a, i, f all seem to repeat 3 times, n gives an n and a space at the same time, m gives m and :, e repeats twice... Much annoyance, as I am usually meticulous with my spelling on emails and sms - none of this text speak crap. I have to re-read my messages before sending them now!
Anyone had any experience sending them off to K&N in the UK?
I'm proper miffed that Sony's "Next day replacement" thing only works if you are out of the country from which your device was purchased.
/rant!

Some of us picked this phone OVER the HD because of the keyboard. At the time I bought this phone, the THD is cheaper than the X1.
And guess what happens? The main defining feature of this phone messes up. We did not buy a cheap phone, or at least back then. It is stupid.
Having to press the space bar harder than other keys is lame. You can't type with confidence, having to correct the errors again and again. You can also choose to press extra hard on either the keyboard, which use alot of concentration, or press equally hard on all keys, which tires your hands out.
I can't even compose a email without my hands and mind hurting, or having missing keypresses. Miss those days, only 2 months back when I can type like a champ. Kudos to Vodaphone for discontinuing phone. Potential buyers should wait for TP2

Many face the same problem...
I think it's worth to complain officially and refer to this thread... I saw someone else opend another one... Anyway, with both threads there are a lot of users already. BTW, mine is getting worse, it's like a virus and infecting the other keys, slowly but steady. I go to a SE shop tomorrow...
AND YES, I ALSO PURCHASED IT MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE KEYBOARD...

is "au:" button workable??cos i press mine,it dint show anything..i remember it used to show something on the screen..and "n" annoy me the most,usually come out nnn when i press it..sad i only having it for 3 months..

okay i also got this problem... kinda funny 2 explain.. so looks i'm not the only 1.. but since obviously only we few have this problem (an here http://indrapr.blogspot.com/2009/03/annoying-sony-ericsson-xperia-x1s.html) it might really b hardware related...? anybody sent it in ?
pls XDA experts... could this b somehow software related?
dont think so coz i'm hard resetin and flashin the whole time and always have the same issue...
this problem really makes a huge part of the X1... useless..
plssss help...

superweijie said:
Potential buyers should wait for TP2
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Yeah, sure, buying another 500 € device which is produced by HTC. HTC is not capable of producing quality. All my HTC phones (Magician, Hermes and X1 - which is produced by HTC) had heavy quality issues. It's damn chinese (no) quality control, sorry for being politically incorrect, but that's the impression I get with many products these days.
My hope was that Sony Ericsson would check the quality of HTC better than themselves but I guess I was wrong. Even though the housing is quite solid, the coat peels off by nothing more than putting it into the pocket. And now, half a year after I have bought it for 500 €, the keyboard, which has been lousy since day one, starts to get even worse, making the X1 a ripoff. I think I will send the device in, also because of the coat peeling. I can, here in germany, exchange the device three times until they have to give me my money back - I really hope this will happen.

this has just started happening to me down one side of my keyboard (the right-hand side).
does this only seem to be happening to the right-hand side of the keyboard ?
is this happening to anyone with the standard rom ?

mine is exactly the opposite. The space bar from the right hand side is too sensitive lately, when i press it is adding three or even four spaces at a time!

Sony Ericson service know this problem as well.Like they also know crack in case problem.As i explain in 'do you regret' thread they know all this problem but they dont do anything to fix.Shame on them.You have to book your phone 3 times.Afterwards they ll give you new unit.That is it.Cheers

just read your blog post, (mr creator of the thread) and it describes exactly my situation, even they sucession in which keys started having issues.
anyways, your lucky you could fix it. I couldnt even if i wanted cuz i bought it in USA from a store that sold vodafone unlocked X1s and brought it to Latin America, so im basically screwed :S
im thinkin of opene it myself and clean it or something, but if guysand SE service had to replace it, i guess that wont help much :S

I have the same problem, with button 'a'. I just need to press it harder than the other buttons. That is very very annoying, to have BK issue with device, bought because of it. And ofcourse I have the "crack" issue, and I used a glue to stop the crack from spreading out.
Such quality issues are very annoying when you buy a 500 Euro smartphone.
So I either remove the glue (I hope SE won't make a problem of that) and return it to SE for KB replacement, or clean the keyboard by myself (there is a tutorial for that, but it doesn't look very easy). But ofcourse I have to wait until the 'a' button stops working completely and than wait for SE to do something about it.
I have a question about the SE service: do you think that they will refuse to take care of the phone because I used a glue for the crack on my X1? Could that be an excuse for them to refuse my warranty?

lol...this is just ridiculous...i got the same problem, but i thought to be too stupid to hit the keys correctly. on my device the "broken" keys are m,n,dot, right space bar...
going to send it in for repair...
first had this cracked case problem and now this one...

My buttons don't want to be touched...

Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.

might be "m2d" not compatible ... hair wired ..
I wonder ..whether we can install window CE from pc to h/p through usb link ...
"Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts"
r u using original usb cable ..b'cos now a day I saw many only using normal "small" usb cable head which easily spoil the connector at phone ... too loose for that sharp..

l3urton32 said:
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
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Go to Start/Settings/System/Clear Storage

and your usb is probably whack

@kaiserII...your usb is whack, haha. that **** made me laugh.

having same exact issue
ya it happened to me sunday night, having exact same problem. keyboard doesnt work, and my front buttons dont work exept for the the center button which ends up opening the start menu (wrong command). Im over my 1 year warrenty and not sure what to do. Had to buy a cheap 40 dollar nokia for the time being, please help if someone can. Oh and I did a hard reset, and it didnt fix anything. Booted android with it and 1 out of 5 times the buttons came back, this is really weird/vexing.

Same issue but slightly different
2 days ago I started hearing a noise from my phone that was not something I normally hear. After checking my phone I found out it was the voice recorder program opening up on its own. It started repeatedly doing this and recording automatically. I had to hold down the close option (X) and before it would stop. AFter a reset and when the phone wakes up it always does this now. Along with all these whacky problems my hard buttons stopped working. My scroll wheel and D-pad sometimes work and only the up, down, left and right arrows work on the keyboard. Camera button seems to work sometimes also. All others have stopped responding. Except for holding the power key. I just reflashed my phone to latest phoenix ROM and problem is the same. Is this it for the phone or is there a fix.
Anyone??? Please!!

Try this free fix
I had the same problem as the original poster. My fix was to download AE Button Plus trial and use it to reset my keys to their original setting. I did not have to do the keyboard, just the external keys. Now my tilt works like it used to.
This fixed the problem when clear storage and reloading roms did not.
It doesn't hurt to try since the trial is free.
Good Luck,
Will

same here... help pls...
any one yet has found a solution for this issue??? 2days ago my Kaiser suddenly started with same problems, buttons dont work and the recorder goes on, any one yet found a way to fix it??? thanks...

I have no idea if this will actually help anyone but I installed japanese input on my kaiser once and during the process a registry got edited that stopped my hardware keyboard and the hardware keys (front keys) from working and the fix was to correct the value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]
edit the 0010411 value to "00000409"
again I have no idea if this will help but it wouldnt hurt to check to see if the registry somehow got changed. Goodluck and I hope you guys figure it out.

didnt work...
dantegl36 said:
I have no idea if this will actually help anyone but I installed japanese input on my kaiser once and during the process a registry got edited that stopped my hardware keyboard and the hardware keys (front keys) from working and the fix was to correct the value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]
edit the 0010411 value to "00000409"
again I have no idea if this will help but it wouldnt hurt to check to see if the registry somehow got changed. Goodluck and I hope you guys figure it out.
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thanks anyways "dantegl36" but it didnt work...

I have the same issue
This is intresting, I just posted on this, as I am having the same issue, which of course just started a few days ago. I have the updated UI as well but I installed it as well.

Any idea how to fix it??

keyboard fix "edfc" problem
yes , kaiser tweak slide wake disabled ...it OK
Greetings from Olsztyn Poland
Unfortunately, the problem returned it was only a temporary improvement, sorry

For my tytn2 after rom upgrade, the front buttons do not respond except the central one. the side buttons are responding under the win only but in the bootloader screen they don't respond. and I cannot make a hard reset.
I did a hard reset through the setting menu but still the problem has not been solved. Adding on that the keyboard doesn't work except the arrow keys.
Do anyone can figure a solution for that. except the hardware problem bec I am out of warranty.
Did anyone was able to solve the problem fully?

oo wow, i have the same problem. hope theres a fix

adding to that the the bluetooth is turnino on by itself even if I switched it off and the device by itself after time of switching it off it refuse to start again unless I did a soft reset.
I tried all the avilabe suggestion but nothing worked.

Hiya
This seems to be a problem with the TyTn II - there are several threads in this forum about it, none of which have any working solutions that I ever found...
I spent ages trying different ROMS, Radios and pressing of buttons and haven't found a solution - other than to disown the TyTn II and get another phone! I did pick it up again the other day and it is still refusing to have working buttons or keyboard (as reported by others, only the central buttons seems to work all the time as a Start Menu button).
I did manage to stop it eating battery at a ridiculous rate by turning it to specific radio settings rather than letting it find its own GPRS/ 3G and phone band. I think it was in this thread
I was considering sending my TynTn II to HTC, but I'm not sure it's going to be worth the postage and their service fees as I've already replaced it with a Touch Pro 2. Then again if we ALL sent them in, they might acknowledge some sort of problem with this model.

samstables said:
Hiya
This seems to be a problem with the TyTn II - there are several threads in this forum about it, none of which have any working solutions that I ever found...
I spent ages trying different ROMS, Radios and pressing of buttons and haven't found a solution - other than to disown the TyTn II and get another phone! I did pick it up again the other day and it is still refusing to have working buttons or keyboard (as reported by others, only the central buttons seems to work all the time as a Start Menu button).
I did manage to stop it eating battery at a ridiculous rate by turning it to specific radio settings rather than letting it find its own GPRS/ 3G and phone band. I think it was in this thread
I was considering sending my TynTn II to HTC, but I'm not sure it's going to be worth the postage and their service fees as I've already replaced it with a Touch Pro 2. Then again if we ALL sent them in, they might acknowledge some sort of problem with this model.
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can I know how did u mange to change the rom? bec even my side buttons refuse to work whenever I am at the bootloader screen and the upgrade through the active sync failed.

Keyboard doubles n and m when typing

I don't know if it's the new rom or just the 'age' (3 month now)...
But since approx. two weekes, by typing messages on the x1 keyboard it doubles or even tripples the letter n, sometimes m? This very annoying...
Anyone have the same problem? All other keys work normal...
Anyone knows how to set a delay at the keyboard? When I press a key and hold it, it take half a second or so until it multiplys the letter. This time i would like to change. Any registry entry?
Thanks for the help...

same issue .. not only m and n on my side..
refer to this post 4 further infos...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483644

same mine. it's only dust

Mine's the opposite. My 'M' doesn't seem very sensitive. My words always seem to miss that 'M'. But the one that's real sensitive is the '.'. That seems to appear all the time.

it started like this with me .. the "M" alone was the problem ..
now the whole keyboard triples EVERYTHING ! -.-''
we really need help

I had that issue briefly with a R2A German Generic I tried. Never happened again though .

You can improve the situation by lowering the rate at which your key strokes are repeated by going to Settings > Buttons then on the "Up/Down Control" tab if you move the first slider to Slow and the Repeat Rate slider to Slow then the problem sort of "disappears"

I had the same issue with a lot of keys, i, m,n,k,l etc...
I did a hard reset and upgraded my rom, installed sms-chat... did everything but the issue persisted.
Finally i took it to the service center and they replaced the plate underneath which senses the keystroke.
It works fine now...

i dunno about u guys
but i spent all night cleanning the keyboard & its working fine now
its hard ,i used a YouTube video.

hatlo0or said:
i dunno about u guys
but i spent all night cleanning the keyboard & its working fine now
its hard ,i used a YouTube video.
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Exactly how did you cleaned your keyboard? I want to clean it by myself too.. Which tools did you use?

I used this vedio Xperia X1 - Disassembly Rear
Its harder than it looks , if you try it be VERY carefull as the parts can be easily broken

hatlo0or said:
I used this vedio Xperia X1 - Disassembly Rear
Its harder than it looks , if you try it be VERY carefull as the parts can be easily broken
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Thanks a lot man!.. i'll give it a try and post the results cause this is a very common problem with the x1's. And probably as common as the cracks on the silver x1's.
Again.. Thanks a lot!

try this fix
i got this cab a while back for this problems, seems to work on wm6.5 also

disassembling did not help - there was no part to clean or to mechanically tighten.

vrbcik said:
disassembling did not help - there was no part to clean or to mechanically tighten.
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Did you try the disassembly and clean the keyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535664

aww wut? i have a problem with my X key as well! i have to push harder to use it and i really dont want to fiddle around with the parts into to clean it.

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Hkt said:
Did you try the disassembly and clean the keyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535664
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Ok, I have done it oncemore - and it seems it helped. Although I am sure it was not dirty from "outside". I would say, it was the sticker or the glue from the sticker which made the contacts dirty.

madjokeer said:
i got this cab a while back for this problems, seems to work on wm6.5 also
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how does this work what does it do any idea?

I haven't read through all the thread, but I can tell everyone who has this keyboard problem of multiple keystrokes and no keystrokes that it is HARDWARE and it can get worse over time. It can be sometimes lessened by some software tweaks but.... don't expect anything major.
I had the same issue, first starting with "f" then spreading over to space, l, m, n and a lot more keys.
The phone was sent to repair three times with no improvement until the third time when it was replaced. I sent it to Flextronics in Newmarket, ON with an RMA# from Sony Ericsson. I still have the worksheets and everything else if anyone wants to make a sticky because I see a lot of posts about this.
My original phone was a 08W36, I now have a 09W30 with no problems so far...
Better get it fixed before it goes out of warranty.
For those of you out of warranty, I think there were a few threads about this explaining how to disassemble the keyboard and clean the plates.

andreitu said:
I haven't read through all the thread, but I can tell everyone who has this keyboard problem of multiple keystrokes and no keystrokes that it is HARDWARE and it can get worse over time. It can be sometimes lessened by some software tweaks but.... don't expect anything major.
I had the same issue, first starting with "f" then spreading over to space, l, m, n and a lot more keys.
The phone was sent to repair three times with no improvement until the third time when it was replaced. I sent it to Flextronics in Newmarket, ON with an RMA# from Sony Ericsson. I still have the worksheets and everything else if anyone wants to make a sticky because I see a lot of posts about this.
My original phone was a 08W36, I now have a 09W30 with no problems so far...
Better get it fixed before it goes out of warranty.
For those of you out of warranty, I think there were a few threads about this explaining how to disassemble the keyboard and clean the plates.
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how long did you spend without your x1? sending it to getting it back because obviously if its gonna take 2 weeks then i'll be hesitant to send it :S

Anyone try cleaning the keyboard?

From searching this forum, I can tell that others are having the same issue I am having. It started out with just a couple keys and now about 50% of my keys require me to push really hard for them to type. It is not a lag issue as covered by another thread. It just feels like the there may be dirt or something under the keys that makes it harder to type. This issue also is not ROM related as I have flashed my device with several ROMS with the same result.
Has anyone had any luck taking apart the keyboard and cleaning underneath the keys? If so -- maybe post some tips on what worked or not.
Thanks.

I'd vote for compressed air

I agree. You might be able to disassemble the phone and take the keyboard out and use compressed air. That would make certain that all the dirt is really out of the board...

A work mate of mine did this the other day. He took it fully apart and cleaned it out with contact cleaner. Ill ask him wether it worked or not but I think it did because I saw him using the phone today.

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I've never heard of contact cleaner. I'll have to try that. After looking at this video for disassembly, it doesn't look like you can get underneath the keys. How did your co-worker do it? Pop off the keys like a laptop keyboard?

I guess some older thread on how to replace Kaiser keyboard will be useful.
Found this
About screen, but went through keyboard also ..

anagarika said:
I guess some older thread on how to replace Kaiser keyboard will be useful.
Found this
About screen, but went through keyboard also ..
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Yes, I found that as well and it was not of much use. The problem is not removing the keyboard from the phone. The problem is getting underneath the keys. You can see the keyboard front/back removed from my attached image. According to this other thread #119, #126, #127 they say it is impossible to get at the keypad underneath.
I might just take a can of compressed air and spray on top of the keys as best I can to see if it helps.

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Yes, I found that as well and it was not of much use. The problem is not removing the keyboard from the phone. The problem is getting underneath the keys. You can see the keyboard front/back removed from my attached image. According to this other thread #119, #126, #127 they say it is impossible to get at the keypad underneath.
I might just take a can of compressed air and spray on top of the keys as best I can to see if it helps.
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Hmmm, seems that no other way but perhaps replace the keyboard ..

You cant get under the "actual" keyboard without breaking it off the housing. The keys can be pulled off from the top, but the actual buttons are sealed below.
For what little it cost, just replace the whole thing and problems are solved. Just did my son and daughters couple weeks ago.

Im foolish I forgot to ask him about it. Thinking back he may have damaged it lol. He does kind of charge into things and then realise he cant fix it.

Agree with carhigh, just replace the whole thing. Kaiser parts not that expensive nowadays. Just need time to open it up.

I have the same problem. Tried blowing compressed air from the top, but didn't have much success with the keys. I'll probably get a new keypad and replace it!

Sorry if this is a common question but where do people recommend getting kaiser parts? My N key and spacebar dont work without pressing it really hard and it's doing my head in!
Cheers.

Dommo said:
Sorry if this is a common question but where do people recommend getting kaiser parts? My N key and spacebar dont work without pressing it really hard and it's doing my head in!
Cheers.
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Your problem will slowly get worse. More and more keys will require extra pressure. Not sure where you could buy a replacement now (the phone is kind of old). After attempting to clean the keyboard, I gave up. I am just using onscreen keyboard program that is included in TPC's ROM. I think it is called finger keyboard. After a little practice, I am actually faster typing on that than I was with sliding the keyboard.

Try this guys - worked for me in fixing my S key:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431925

Ah. Did not realize the keyboard did not come out of the housing...

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