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Hi, I think that almost everyone want to play some game on his phone. So, I will test some of them, and post here results, and problems. Most of all, I test demos or freeware games, so actually full game results may by different. I hope this will be helpfull for you.
ofcourse it will be helpfull
thx
So, I prepared some games to test, I will test them later becouse I am still serching info about two PDAMill games. These games are Snails Reloaded (just QVGA) and Anthelion 2 (QVGA and VGA version). For some reason, these games runs much slower on Diamond than on brother´s Asus P535 when its CPU is set to 200MHz! Yes, 200MHz outperform in these games our 528MHZ one. I assume that this is due to incompatibility with WM 6.1. But it is strange. On PDA Mill site, they say that WM 6 is supported. Maybe WM 6.1 or combination of WM 6.1 + VGA is the problem. I dont know. Yes, you can run these games, but at speed of snail. Firts I thought that maybe transform from QVGA to VGA is the problem, but Anthelion 2 has VGA version too, and this VGA version was as laggy as QVGA version. If you think that Anthleion is 3D game, and Diamond maybe just cannot handle 3D, it is wrong. Even menu in this game is stupidly laggy, concretelly transtions in menu. And Snails Reloaded act just like Anthelion 2, and they are just 2D game. But I forgott that VS Bench on our devices is very good 2500+ points, that this isnt due to slow Diamond CPU. (VS Bench of Asus P535 is in 520 MHz mode 2300 points and on 200 MHz mode only about 1000 and it still outperform Dimand) .
So, for now I can say that you can play these games, but prepare yourself for laggy game experience.
Next game I tried is Duke Nukem 3D - this is even worst - becouse you can not even run it. After loading, screen goes black, and you must restart it. This is bad news, becouse I liked Duke Nukem 3D on PC, and I played it a lot on my previous WM 5 phone. This game doesent like VGA or WM 6.1.
And for now last one: Call Of Duty mobile. This nice 3D Game runs great, you will get even better framerate than previously mentioned Asus P535 in 520 MHz mode. Still, this game is not smooth, but definattely playable. First game which runs on Diamond slightly better than on P535 (520MHZ adjustable CPU).
More games speed and copatibility info will be here soon.
Nice work keep it up , may want to put them in a list format , with links to the games as well
For ref Age of Empires Gold Edition, Works fine on the Diamond
One question: Where can I buy a licence key to have a full verion of Age of Empires Gold Edition?
Fred
Yes, I know. For now, I will add games just as new replys, but I will make some list in future, when more games will be tested. I can add links, if you want, but remember that most apps I am testing are demo versions, but some freeware will be there too.
Has anyone tried bejeweled 2 yet? I don't wanna install mines until my screen protector arrives!!
best game ever bejeweled 2
I Have Working:
My Little Thank - Just some problems to acess the register screen but works
Solitaire City - Works Fine
SkyForce Rel. - Does not work
Skyforce - Does not work
Bejeweled 2 - Works
Rocket mania - Works
Tradewinds 2 - Works
Insane Aquaium Deluxe - Works
Dielmann said:
One question: Where can I buy a licence key to have a full verion of Age of Empires Gold Edition?
Fred
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IIRC, you cna't - it's long been abandoned.
Siruss said:
SkyForce Rel. - Does not work
Skyforce - Does not work
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Did you contact the developer? It's working just greta on all my other VGA devices, incl. WM6.1 ones - that is, it must be incompatible with the Qualcomm chipset.
Double post - bad connection - sorry
Pocket Heroes - works great
Leomnade Inc.- works but can't get pass the beginning menu
Tombraider - seems to work, as I can't get pass the menu because of missing hardware buttons
Lemmings 1.0 - the screen is black but I can hear the music
Asphalt 3d - runs on 1/5 of the screen
Worms - work great but luck of hw buttons (can't shot, jump and so one)
Houseofdead 3d - works but slow
Poket Quake - shows menu but the game is blank window
Transport Tycoon - stucks on loading screen
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Asphalt 3d - runs on 1/5 of the screen
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is that 3D_Asphalt_3.jar ? under Jblend v3.2.8 20061016c, it ran full screen on VGA; see the compatibility chart in my MIDlet Bible.
no it's PPC game (*.cab)
Hi Pokvitek, May be the reason for not working / poorly working games on Diamond compared to other (older) VGA devices is that the Games are developed for Open GL processing whereas our Diamond has seperate Qtc processing (the 3D accelerator chip)...
Can anyone put more light on this??
Anyone use or know of a good NES emulator. I would kill to have mario, master blaster, etc on my diamond.
thanks
If anyone would like to have an really good Lemmings Port, look here:
CAB: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zeppenfe/files/PocketLemmings.cab
If problems occured with moved grafics or similar, then exchange this .EXE: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zeppenfe/files/LemmingsCE.exe
YouTube Movie: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=11_bG6--h6U
Level AddOns ZIP: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zeppenfe/files/LemPack_Custom.zip
Thats the first Port ive seen, that leans on the original game, with full levels from "Lemmings" and "Oh No More Lemmings". All you really need, is the "main.dat" file from your (hopefully ) original Lemmings...
I dont know, I personally think that Open GL is not the issue. Anyway, some games dont work due to WM 6.1, some due to VGA, and some due to problem that nobody knows. Qualcomm chipset has ARM 11 operation CPU, so this should not be problem. About Skyforce, I have not a solution, but an idea. I found something interesting. We all know spb benchmark, and with new ROM Diamond has in graphics about 1600 points. This bench can not use Hardware acceleration, so this must be result of just 528 MHz Main CPU. Now, point is that i thought that Diamond grapics index is low due to WM 6.1, but I found other phones running WM 6.1, and they had graphics index about 3000, with 400MHZ CPU. So, I was sad, becous it seemed that Diamond is just piece of crap. THEN I found something interesting, graphic index of IPaQ 214 - WM 6.1 VGA device, with 624 MHz Marvell Monahan 310 CPU. His grphic index was about 1600 too. So, device of this strenght, like IpaQ 214 definnetelly is, should outperform Diamond. So, I guess, that there is something. I dont know what, but I am sure that is.
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Pocket Heroes - works great
Leomnade Inc.- works but can't get pass the beginning menu
Tombraider - seems to work, as I can't get pass the menu because of missing hardware buttons
Lemmings 1.0 - the screen is black but I can hear the music
Asphalt 3d - runs on 1/5 of the screen
Worms - work great but luck of hw buttons (can't shot, jump and so one)
Houseofdead 3d - works but slow
Poket Quake - shows menu but the game is blank window
Transport Tycoon - stucks on loading screen
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WORMS: there is a patch available to assign the sound up and sound down buttons to jump and backflip. then evrything works
NES emulators do not work properly because the lack of hardware buttons. the onscreen buttons do not work very well.
Play SuperNes games or Gameboy advance games on the diamond?
one word - no
sNes
http://www.pdagameguide.com/snes-emulator.html
Haven't tried it though..
yes it's possible and very easy!
I've got installed 4 amulators working fine
for SNES: PocketSNES version 1.12.200
for Sega Genesis: Genesis Plus/PocketPc version 1.06 (GenPP)
for PSX:FPSECE version 0.09.6
for Gameboy Advance: PocketGBA
you can google them or find some of them in the xda-wiki.
all of them work fine in the diamond with vga support, but the best are for SNES and Sega Genesis. the other 2 are a little slow but of cours you can play some games.
tell me if you need any help, I'm new with WM but I've tried lots of things already.
And don't forget morphgear.
TDO
Whats it like with gameplay in terms of hardware buttons, etc?
hi,
the pocketsnes i dled the arm version, and when i tried loading up my rom nothing happens, and when i click the screen it leads me to a website, i also notice that everything is slower.
morphgear on the otherhand is tiny, i guess its only for qvga mode.
is there anyway to make one of these work properly?
I really hope that the Diamond/TP can play SNES quite good because my 4 year old Palm T3 with 400MHz has no problems with 320 x 480.
Zha0 said:
hi,
the pocketsnes i dled the arm version, and when i tried loading up my rom nothing happens, and when i click the screen it leads me to a website, i also notice that everything is slower.
morphgear on the otherhand is tiny, i guess its only for qvga mode.
is there anyway to make one of these work properly?
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Morphgear
If you want an on screen controler you have to use a vga skin.
The default is only for qvga.
TDO
mazais said:
one word - no
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Why do you answer when you have no clue?
It is possible! Just use google.
Is there a fully working, full speed Genesis emulator for the Kaiser?
I tried Genesis Plus 0.6. With frameskip on auto, it was way too slow. And it doesn't have any options to remap keys.
I tried PicoDrive 0.52. It was also too slow and it doesn't have any options to enable frameskip. I could remap keys, but up was right, down was left, right was down, and left was up.
Are there any full speed Genesis/Mega Drive emulators for the Kaiser? There were some nearly full speed ones for my ancient Nokia 6620 (150 MHz Arm9, 16 MB RAM), so full speed emulation on the Kaiser (400 MHz Arm9, 128 MB RAM) should be possible.
I have not found even a decent Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, or Nintendo emulator. My iPod Touch has got them all and working great :<<
You won't find any emulators at the moment that are going to be fully smooth (forget about sound) on kaiser. sorry, but that's the way it is.
hopefully incoming version 0.1 of fpsece will let us play games like final fantasy VII with decent framerates. it may be possible, as makers of it have promised to release source code for gfx plugin. maybe, just maybe someone will try to write a dedicated gfx plugin and to utilize 3d hardware in kaisers to give it bit more processing power.
br
bro
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funny thing is, that silly old nokia N70 can play gameboy advance games without sound at almost full speed (frameskip 1), and all of it on ~200 mhz cpu. those who tried playing gba games on kaiser know, that they are not playable at all.
bronx said:
You won't find any emulators at the moment that are going to be fully smooth (forget about sound) on kaiser. sorry, but that's the way it is.
hopefully incoming version 0.1 of fpsece will let us play games like final fantasy VII with decent framerates. it may be possible, as makers of it have promised to release source code for gfx plugin. maybe, just maybe someone will try to write a dedicated gfx plugin and to utilize 3d hardware in kaisers to give it bit more processing power.
br
bro
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funny thing is, that silly old nokia N70 can play gameboy advance games without sound at almost full speed (frameskip 1), and all of it on ~200 mhz cpu. those who tried playing gba games on kaiser know, that they are not playable at all.
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My friend always plays ol` good games (GB, GBA, NINTENDO) with his N95 and they look gorgeus compared to kaiser. I just hate the fact that we don`t have anything matching.
solid nes emulator for kaiser exists
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I have not found even a decent Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, or Nintendo emulator. My iPod Touch has got them all and working great :<<
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I suggest u guys look for pocket nester. it runs nes roms just fine on kaiser. requires some remapping of keys. I believe it took some googling after trying xda forum links. i located the emulator while looking for kinoma free play here on xda.
cheers
[edit] pocketnester
and morphgear
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I suggest u guys look for pocket nester. it runs nes roms just fine on kaiser. requires some remapping of keys. I believe it took some googling after trying xda forum links. i located the emulator while looking for kinoma free play here on xda.
cheers
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It looks like the latest version is 0.7 from 2003 Giving it a try tho, need to source some roms.
Update : Works fine if you don't use the onscreen controls, just maps to the dpad and A=Softkey Left B=IE Button Start=Softkey right Select=SMS button.
The Audio works best upto 22800, 8 bit, with 2 set for frameskip .
Apparently free .NES ROMs here - full commercial games at non-warez site.
PS Sorry to hijack your MegDdrive thread with NES info but I'm all excited I got this working smooth.
seems right
snachez orignally wrote:
It looks like the latest version is 0.7 from 2003 Giving it a try tho, need to source some roms.
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yup, that is the one. simply copy pocketnester app to storage card, transfer your roms, load roms thru program or just setup association with nes roms inside options and double click ur rom
remember ull need to remap, which took a little state diagram for me to get it right.
if u can find your mario 2 it is perfect for ppc since no time limit, four characters, and lots of places when you drop it simply scrolls down. makes sloppy button presses little less upsetting!
morphgear seems to work fine
feanor512 said:
Is there a fully working, full speed Genesis emulator for the Kaiser?
I tried Genesis Plus 0.6. With frameskip on auto, it was way too slow. And it doesn't have any options to remap keys.
I tried PicoDrive 0.52. It was also too slow and it doesn't have any options to enable frameskip. I could remap keys, but up was right, down was left, right was down, and left was up.
Are there any full speed Genesis/Mega Drive emulators for the Kaiser? There were some nearly full speed ones for my ancient Nokia 6620 (150 MHz Arm9, 16 MB RAM), so full speed emulation on the Kaiser (400 MHz Arm9, 128 MB RAM) should be possible.
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download site
download the generator and the emulators, run the files while ppc connected to activesync and computer thru usb, soft reset and proceed with installations, transfer appropriate roms to storage card, goto programs->games->morphgear, switch to whichever file type and load rom
try it
Genesis/Mega Drive emulation is currently broken in Morphgear. It crashes immediately on opening a ROM.
Check out Smart Gear. It emulates Genesis, SNES, NES, Gamegear, and Gameboy. Unfortunately, it's not free.
pocket nester works great for playing nintendo games, i'm playing mike tyson's punch out now, SICK
I use picodrive v0.52 for mega drive, pocketgnuboy v1.20 for gameboy and PocketGBA v060723 for gameboy advance and all run fine with sound, only thing is on picodrive turn the sound sample rate down to about 22050 or less because i've found if set any higher games become quite laggy.
No sound on Kaiser?
I am running Picodrive v0.052 on my TyTyn II and all of the roms run fine, but without sound. I have tried changing the sample rate, disabling Z80 and any other options I can see, but so far had no joy.
Anyone know what I am doing wrong?
Hi, Guys !
I was wondering if someone has tried some of the game emulators we have for WM - NeoGeo, Mame, Gameboy, PS1 and etc... and if yes, could you share your opinion about them and their performance on the X1 cause this could be a good solution to the otherwise poor with cool WVGA game titles phone .. Thank a lot
I tried mame. It works quite fine. Only problem is with lack of buttons to control the games. I guess this will be problem for all emulators.
Use search, there have been plenty of topics.
The best emulator is definitely MorphGear. It can emulate almost anything, from NES, SNES and Gameboy to Sega Megadrive and more! You can play in fullscreen in WVGA resolution. The smoothest speed possible on an emulator. Full customization of the keys. It is the best.
MorphGear is GD slow! i've tried only genesis module, which i had to use FPS = 4 and disable sound to be able to play on the right speed... so i concluded snes module will be even worse... anybody can run MorphGear in a decent manner??? i use PicoDrive, which runs perfectly smooth WITH SOUND!!!! it's also possible to use the hard keyboard keys, so after some training it became really playable.... minor drawback: you have to install wvgafix3 (search for it here at xda) to run it on xperia..... go for PicoDrive, you won't regret.....
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MorphGear is GD slow! i've tried only genesis module, which i had to use FPS = 4 and disable sound to be able to play on the right speed... so i concluded snes module will be even worse... anybody can run MorphGear in a decent manner??? i use PicoDrive, which runs perfectly smooth WITH SOUND!!!! it's also possible to use the hard keyboard keys, so after some training it became really playable.... minor drawback: you have to install wvgafix3 (search for it here at xda) to run it on xperia..... go for PicoDrive, you won't regret.....
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MorphGear does all of those + fullscreen. Super Mario ftw!
Morphgear is very laggy for me when playing super mario. Any tweaks?
Very interested in this topic too!!!
I have messed around with mame quite a bit and am using FBA 0.14/0.12...i am sooo sad, that they do not develop this project anymore...without sound, the speed is not bad for some games!..with sound it lags too much i am afraid =/
cannot wait to test the ones you mentioned!
I tried pocket dosbox and played spelljammer pirates of realspace for a bit worked fine
... about MorphGear. GAPI runs the fastest on it but it doesn't work right. It scales the screen so it shows only a part of the gaming screen ... anybody know a fix for this?? Been wrecking my brain recently trying to get it work. With other display modes the fps just sucks.. Pocketgba I think uses GAPI and it runs supersmooth, but has numerous other problems so I'd prefer MorphGear.
ps. been searching this forum and googling this problem for like forever now
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Morphgear is very laggy for me when playing super mario. Any tweaks?
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I haven't done any special tweaks. Just the regular stuff.
Haven't tried morphgear but pocket gba is slow
Hey Everyone
I have been combing this Fourms and there is a lot of stuff but I I have not found a soultion to run SNES and GBA games.
So my HTC (Kaiser) Runs Poorly on SNES and GBA Games. If I un enable the sound SNes Performace does get better, but it is still a little choppy. GBA games either way are choppy.
and of course NES, GB and GBC run very well
I have seen a few people mention they can get theirs to work and I was hoping to get mine up and running as well.
first I am Running WM 6.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547754
That cooked version.
Morph Gear Version 2.4.09
after going through all the Posts I have also installed
HTC-CA-Kaiser-Drivers.cab
HTC TI Kaiser Drivers.cab
I was going to try
SJ SamsungOmnia_Driver_D3D.cab (but have not done it yet)
Does anyone have any tips?
IMHO the best speed for emulation can be achived only whith native 6.1 rom whothout superram
obaz said:
IMHO the best speed for emulation can be achived only whith native 6.1 rom whothout superram
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not at all, snesgo is almost full speed with sound on but it only works on qvga screens for now, and it work perfectly regardless of rom used
obaz said:
IMHO the best speed for emulation can be achived only whith native 6.1 rom whothout superram
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Hey, I've been looking to optimize my new Tilt for high-speed gaming/emulation (and applications in general) as well... and to be totally honest, all this about flashing and roms (especially the tutorials) has confused me senseless; however this native ROM you speak of looks like it's what I want.
...could you link me to that ROM?
...and does it have any compatibility issues with the Tilt's keyboard/function keys, or other sorts of connection manager hell I'd have to go through to get it properly working on AT&T's MEdia Net 3G?
yoyoman2 said:
Hey, I've been looking to optimize my new Tilt for high-speed gaming/emulation (and applications in general) as well... and to be totally honest, all this about flashing and roms (especially the tutorials) has confused me senseless; however this native ROM you speak of looks like it's what I want.
...could you link me to that ROM?
...and does it have any compatibility issues with the Tilt's keyboard/function keys, or other sorts of connection manager hell I'd have to go through to get it properly working on AT&T's MEdia Net 3G?
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any last shipped 6.1 rom from wiki you whant. but it was writen before I try snesgo, and I must say - it is the best snes emu ever. runing smooth on on pdacornerXv9. only one bug - I cannt map qwerty as gamepad.
Most emulators were written ages ago. I wouldn't consider any of them anywhere near a finished product. Also, unless you're talking about PSX or N64 emulation, the 3D accelerator won't increase the frame rate. Though, it could make the graphics look smoother and sharper, without making the game slower.
3D acceleration is just a mess on the Kaiser as well. Most applications are looking for a Nvidia, PowerVR, or Xscale to even run. Even still, more roms come with superram, which prevents the use of proper 3D drivers. I myself am still in the process of trying to find a clean WM6.5 rom, without superram.
Dukenukemx
nes, snes or sega is not 3d-game console. so not of any 3d drivers neded at all. it is all about 2d.
obaz, that's what I said.