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Hi guys I'm new here and I mostly just read what you all have to say about the Kaiser and how to improve it. But I was wondering if you guys could help me make a decision. I'm finally going to take the leap and get a TyTN II. I have AT&T and I've played around with my friends Tilt before he fragged it on the Sacramento River and I like it but I much prefer the TyTN II.
So you may be asking what's the problem. Well I've been looking at the soon to be released Touch Pro and have been really considering holding off a bit longer to get that one instead of the TyTN. I've found that while testing the TIlt that I rarely used the tilt feature and the news that the Touch Pro (along with the Diamond) will have a desk top docking station, I no longer see the tilt feature an advantage.
So what do you guys think? Should I hold off on the TyTN and get the Touch Pro? Or just go ahead with the TyTN and see how the Pro turns out?
Hi
I like the Tytn II very much but I have ordered a touch pro. The tilt feature is not so important for me compared to the higher performance, memory and resolution of the touch pro.
And, the Tytn II is sooo 2007 !!
Ciao, D
Cheesy Dave said:
Hi
I like the Tytn II very much but I have ordered a touch pro. The tilt feature is not so important for me compared to the higher performance, memory and resolution of the touch pro.
And, the Tytn II is sooo 2007 !!
Ciao, D
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So when do you get yours? I was thinking about getting one from On The Go Solutions and they have it listed as available in August. I'm really leaning towards the Touch Pro the more I look into it.
And in 2009 Windows Mobile 7 should be coming out, so maybe I should wait until then. Wait in 2010 the 32GB SDHC cards should be coming out, so maybe I should wait to buy a phone that is compatible with those.
But then again , in 2011 the cpu clock speed should be up to 1 GHz, maybe I will wait.
See where I'm going with this ?
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And in 2009 Windows Mobile 7 should be coming out, so maybe I should wait until then. Wait in 2010 the 32GB SDHC cards should be coming out, so maybe I should wait to buy a phone that is compatible with those.
But then again , in 2011 the cpu clock speed should be up to 1 GHz, maybe I will wait.
See where I'm going with this ?
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Yeah I do. I'm not going to wait to long, I was just curious as to what you guys thought. You are more in the know about these things than I so I wanted to make sure I was getting what I really want.
I'll make it easy for you..I'll sell you my 1.5 yr old, problem free TyTn II and I'll buy the Touch Pro ...which I am planning on doing anyway!
The tilt screen is nice but as mentioned it is worth the sacrifice. Besides I betcha some braniac is gonna come out with a Touch Pro "screen tilt mod" sooner or later and waah-lah !
I have an xda atom, is it worth it to upgrade to an xperia x1? why? please help me
If you can get it cheap, why not? But for it's original $700 price, better get one of the newer phones.
@ OP - YES.
only if you can get the x1 cheap. otherwise get something newer like the omnia pro with its 800mhz
ive used many cooked roms on an atom exec and x1 you will not be impressed with the performance of the xperia considering what you are having now. 520MHZ on a qvga device like yours does wonders in the perceived performance. i wish my x1 is as snappy as the ATOM EXEC
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only if you can get the x1 cheap. otherwise get something newer like the omnia pro with its 800mhz
ive used many cooked roms on an atom exec and x1 you will not be impressed with the performance of the xperia considering what you are having now. 520MHZ on a qvga device like yours does wonders in the perceived performance. i wish my x1 is as snappy as the ATOM EXEC
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i only have the original atom not the exec one. just the atom one. will it be worth the upgrade?
Xperia is for us who already brought it last time, better advise is tp2 or omnia 2
But i tell you here, you can't find any screen better than xperia, imagine 800*480 fit into 2.8 inchs screen XD
Rumor has it that the X2 will be announced next week- probably hold out for another month or two and get that. It's got a marginally larger screen.
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Rumor has it that the X2 will be announced next week- probably hold out for another month or two and get that. It's got a marginally larger screen.
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Where did you read it? i did't read anywhere that it sayd x2 comes out. normaly you here it months before it comes. and if you look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522807 it lookes really awfull i hope the final x2 wouldn't look like this one.
i got mine secondhand x1 2 months ago at price of $350, its pretty good deal. now i think it should drop to below $300
Hi there,
As a fellow xda atom (original) owner who upgraded to xperia x1 in January this year. I say the experience is definitely worth it and will be a massive upgrade from WM5.
However, on the cost wise side, I don't think it is worth it at the current retail prices unless you have a special offer. There are other models around now as others have mentioned.
If you do press ahead though, do take note of the particular quirks of the X1. The battery casing paint peeling problem for black xperias, the case cracks and especially the keyboard insensitivity over time.
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i only have the original atom not the exec one. just the atom one. will it be worth the upgrade?
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the diference between the atom and the exec are not that big. ive seen vanilla ATOMs with cooked 6.1/6.5 roms that run really fast. noticably snappier than my x1
the x1 is a major upgrade of what you have but i would get it only if you pay ~$300-$350 for it
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the diference between the atom and the exec are not that big. ive seen vanilla ATOMs with cooked 6.1/6.5 roms that run really fast. noticably snappier than my x1
the x1 is a major upgrade of what you have but i would get it only if you pay ~$300-$350 for it
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i understand.. i think i can find it at around $300 here in my location, thanks
i use to have an atom until it broke so i got this phone because it seemed nice. i don't really think the x1 is worth getting if your atom is still in good condition. if it was around $300, maybe it'd would be worth it. the x1's buttons are much stiffer compared to the atom's and the x1 doesn't support some programs because of its resolution. if my atom still worked, i would not have gotten the x1.
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i use to have an atom until it broke so i got this phone because it seemed nice. i don't really think the x1 is worth getting if your atom is still in good condition. if it was around $300, maybe it'd would be worth it. the x1's buttons are much stiffer compared to the atom's and the x1 doesn't support some programs because of its resolution. if my atom still worked, i would not have gotten the x1.
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i see.. i'll keep this in mind
OP the atom compared to the X1 is like a World War 1 tank compared to the modern day Leopard tank. Like a black and white TV from 50 years ago compared to a 50 inch LCD lol. Like..... um... you get the idea.
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OP the atom compared to the X1 is like a World War 1 tank compared to the modern day Leopard tank. Like a black and white TV from 50 years ago compared to a 50 inch LCD lol. Like..... um... you get the idea.
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hahaha nice comparison. like ur humor orelsi.
commodoor said:
hahaha nice comparison. like ur humor orelsi.
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Thank you, thank you, that's far too kind .
I highly consider the Touch Pro2.
I just got my hands on T-Mobile's Touch Pro2
And here is my verdict:
Keyboard is way better, larger, and easier to press like 10 times better.
Arrow keys is extremely useful.
I can finally use my finger (not fingertips) to accurately press a puny button
The screen is larger and therefore more pleasant.
The speaker is louder and better quality for sure.
Less laggy than my X1.
Think of it as an X1 without the exterior D-Pad, headphone jack, and flash LED.
poetryrocksalot said:
Think of it as an X1 without the exterior D-Pad, headphone jack, and flash LED.
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Ouch........
poetryrocksalot said:
I highly consider the Touch Pro2.
I just got my hands on T-Mobile's Touch Pro2
And here is my verdict:
Keyboard is way better, larger, and easier to press like 10 times better.
Arrow keys is extremely useful.
I can finally use my finger (not fingertips) to accurately press a puny button
The screen is larger and therefore more pleasant.
The speaker is louder and better quality for sure.
Less laggy than my X1.
Think of it as an X1 without the exterior D-Pad, headphone jack, and flash LED.
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with the D-pad its easiyer to scroll espacilly with the one of X1
Headphone jack lets you use youre own headphones i like this
Flash led lets you take pictures at darker places.
And the laggy isn't the phone but the OS.
The x1 has better battery life than tp2
I've long laughed at a few friends who messed with cheep iPhone clones ( knock off's), as the screens looked slightly dimmer, and in no way did what the person was trying to show when they would swipe the screen to flip a page.
So I have been looking around now to maybe add 1 or 2 tinker toys to back up a real phone.
I can't imagine my typhoon is going to stand up to the punishment I have been giving it.....flashing and flashing.
So I am thinking of hitting a store and getting an Unlocked referb real phone as my main, but maybe a knock off too to play with.
I have noticed the knock offs seem to be getting way better then the iphone rip offs.
The 2 I am looking at as maybe buys
http://www.m8cool.com/product/detail-111-3362-30283.aspx
and
http://www.m8cool.com/product/detail-111-3325-31501.aspx
They even have an HD2 clone about to hit (no specs that I could find), so maybe that if it's a real improvment over past clone nightmares.
Have you mucked about with any clones? Would you tinker with them or just get a real one as a secondary?
Go for a real mobile!
I´ll never buy a copy of an HTC
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Go for a real mobile!
I´ll never buy a copy of an HTC
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I will have a real as my main phone.....was thinking Unlocked Touch or Touch HD ( depends on availability in store). Once my Typhoon starts to show signs of death.....but it's been taking quite a beating and not dying.
However a cheep toy to mess about with, one that if bricked really would not matter.
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I will have a real as my main phone.....was thinking Unlocked Touch or Touch HD ( depends on availability in store). Once my Typhoon starts to show signs of death.....but it's been taking quite a beating and not dying.
However a cheep toy to mess about with, one that if bricked really would not matter.
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if you really want a china phone then try getting those which run android
as it is open source you can have a cheap thing which can perform quite well
Here's very busy owners of fake hd thread for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552024
Buy real mobile phones
HTC is a very good choice
Cheap!
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I will have a real as my main phone.....was thinking Unlocked Touch or Touch HD ( depends on availability in store). Once my Typhoon starts to show signs of death.....but it's been taking quite a beating and not dying.
However a cheep toy to mess about with, one that if bricked really would not matter.
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If you do not consider 90USD as cheap then...
Have a look on marketplace section and see prices of ORGININAL HTC devices!
They are very cheap and not a copy
HTC have very nice and cheap phones, but here in Brazil, a HTC S711 costs about 500USD
The price depends of the country.
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HTC have very nice and cheap phones, but here in Brazil, a HTC S711 costs about 500USD
The price depends of the country.
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Then buy it online www
I've buy my one on Mercado Livre(eBay of Brazil) for about 200USD
I've had a few phones from china, there are some that work realy well, here's my chart of the best I've tried.
1/ M89+ wm6.1 single sim, (iphone look alike) fantastic battery life, runs spb shell very well, built in gps receiver runs tomtom7, Hisilicon K3 cpu gives great performance.
2/ T5353 (or T8388) touch diamond 2, wm6.1 & 6.5 almost as good as the 1 above with all the functions of M89+ but with dual sim.
3/ HD2 (T5858+) 3.5" screen, wm6.5, built in GPS (locks on to sats better than my tom tom), runs good as long as you don't change the region to UK, if you do problems with camera, wifi & lamp. software on three sets all the same fault.
4/ Smartbook Mypad, wm6.1, Looks great with it's 5" screen but the proccessor isn't up to the job. runs SPB shell but slow transitions, GPS needs external reciever. battery life is poor just over 1 day in normal use.
There are 2 new T5858 Leo with 4.3" screens , be sure to get the QualCommR 8250B version. I can't recommend this yet cos it hasn't arrived but looks great.
well....
yeah, i will never get a copy of this ...
noob hd2 goes for 250-300 usd on ebay
I've been offered a Diamond 2 for pretty cheap and I was wondering what the guys thought about updating?
is it really worth the expense for a removable card and a little bigger screen...or is there more to it?
Is this all there is?
what do you think?
Thanks
mike
The Diamond 2 offers two main advantages:
1. style. It has a bigger screen, and looks better. This is ofcourse depending on your own taste
2. Software. The Diamond 2 has, in my opinion, a much better touchflo interface.
Ofcourse 1 can only be achieved by buying the device. But 2 can also be achieved by a custom ROM. I personally use Gen.Y's D2 ROM. It basically just the diamond rom with the diamond 2 interface installed: very nice. If you want to update read this for a guide. Also wait a few days, Gen.Y will release R5.1 on january 5.
He also makes roms based on the new HTC HD2 Sense interface: Gen.Y's D2X ROM. I've tried it: its definitly a nice interface upgrade but it's kind of laggy on the diamond and uses more RAM. If you want it you should buy a real HD2: it's hardware is very good and reviews say it's super-fast (it has a 1Ghz CPU as opposed to the +-500Mhz of the Diamond, Diamond2 etc.).
To round up: I wouldn't do it, just install a custom rom for the new interface and save the money for a real upgrade, like the HD2.
Thanks for the thoughts, i originally got the TD cos of it's size to power ratio, i recn that the HD/2 is pushing the size thing for me.
I can put the TD in an aluminium belt case and it's not really in the way. the HD may be thou....I need to do more homework first
I have a diamond1, my hubby has a diamond2, and as i really like the looks and size of diamond1 alot more, i also have to admit that the diamond2 is a much more up to date device, it's way faster (processor), has no storage limitations (card slot) and is alot less damage sensitive (diamond1 screen is full of scratches).
Yes, the diamond2 is bigger, but the bigger screen really has advantages (surfing, calender use, input etc..) and i must admit too that TF3D works alot smoother outta the box with diamond2.
Tx to this site i managed to upgrade my diamond1 to a higher standard so it still suits my needs, but i keep bumping in to memory problems (RAM and storage) every now and then, where the diamond2 has no problems at all.
Diamond2 runs even smoother with the newer cooked ROMS (even the ones with all the Leo stuff in it).
I would definitaly choose the diamond2 above the diamond1, but plz don't tell my hubby
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I have a diamond1, my hubby has a diamond2, and as i really like the looks and size of diamond1 alot more, i also have to admit that the diamond2 is a much more up to date device, it's way faster (processor), has no storage limitations (card slot) and is alot less damage sensitive
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The processor of the diamond2 and diamond is 100% the same... The only speed differences can be because of the RAM or interface...
The card slot I'll give you, but speed? A diamond with a basic stripped rom and manilla 2.1 is at least as fast as a stock diamond2, if not faster.
I prefer Diamond II than Diamond I which has
+ Better battery
+ Expansion card slot
+ Bigger screen
+ Reservered ( I haven't got it yet )
I'll take Diamond II when I have chance.
hmmm.....can i justify the expense it's in really good nic and my beloved 3700 is looking a bit worse for wear ...
I love my Diamond but it has it's disadvantages like a shortage of RAM, although the Diamond II does have more RAM it wouldn't make sense for me personally to upgrade to a Diamond II (both have basically the same hardware). I'm due for an upgrade next week and thought that it would be best to upgrade to the Touch HD2 but since it's not available in my country yet I opted to go for the Touch Pro 2 since it has some nice features that the Diamond II does not have... and offcourse a nice big slide out keyboard! The fact that the Diamond II has a 5mp camera and the Touch Pro 2 only a 3.2mp one doesn't matter much to me as well since I barely use it in any case.
It's difficult to add more to what has already been said for the advantages of the Diamond 2 over the Diamond 1.
Recap:
• way better camera
• way better screen
• way better memory (Ram & Rom)
• better battery consumption
• better construction build
• despite the CPU's are identical in specs. Diamond 2 CPU is been rated faster then original diamond
Bonus:
• if you have a great price it's a no brainier as the original Diamond can only compete if lighter weight and smaller size was a priority.
If it had a 3.5mm Jack, heck I think I would trade in my HD for it....
dtechnology said:
The processor of the diamond2 and diamond is 100% the same... The only speed differences can be because of the RAM or interface...
The card slot I'll give you, but speed? A diamond with a basic stripped rom and manilla 2.1 is at least as fast as a stock diamond2, if not faster.
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You're right, i didn't know the processor was the same (only different last digit in specs and rated just a tinytiny bit faster), and i'm comparing them running both on WM6.5 with Sense 2.5, that's not fair towards the good ol' diamond1
I've been thinking about what to upgrade to myself actually. I'm not really willing to pay for a phone offline- so have to restrict myself to the upgrade options available on T-Mobile UK.
The obvious choice would be the HD2 but just thinking it is just that too big, especially going from a Diamond (?)
I dont see the Vario V (HTC Rhodium/TP2) on T-Mobile UK site, anyone if they still do it?
I agree with others that the Diamond2 probably wouldnt be worth it. Saying that, if the price you are getting it at is really cheap then it could be an option; you could always sell off your Diamond. But I'm definitely not about to 'waste' my upgrade on the Diamond2
With the latest ROMs around at the moment, the Diamond barely manages to cope (WM 6.5.x with Sense 2.5 for example).
dtechnology is correct
its just down to personal choice to be fair
I want to buy htc diamond , but they say its too slow and have many lag !! is it righ ??
That's not good idea at the moment - diamond is good device but it's too old and its battery is not good .
dont get it. it has ALOT of lag. texting freezes all the time also
The Diamond was my previous device. It was quite capable for me. But there really is no reason to get it at this time, unless someone just gives it to you with no strings attached.
Much more capable devices are out there. (Touch HD, HD2, Diamond2, Touch Pro2, Omnia2, etc)
If it's the only phone you can effort, I should buy it.
But if you can spend more money I should definately go for the HD2 or wait for some newer devices.
I like my Diamond. The only weak point is the battery. And one more thing: doesn't take mem cards... It's been on the market a while ago, so there are many cooked ROMs if you don't like it. Just flash another one.
so how much it coast for used one "htc Diamond " in your country
in Lithuania used Diamond costs about 150€ - 200€, in good condition without scratches about 300€
I bought a new Diamond in November for 155€ on ebay here in Germany. Now you'll get a new one for 134€. It was worth it. But you need to upgrade your ROM, Radio to enjoy the phone. TomTom, IGO8 or Navigon are very useful tools that you should put on the Diamond.
It is still a little bit slow and Windows Mobile is a pretty bad OS, but awesome for the money.
up to you really
it actually depends on your usage.
if you are just the average phone user who makes calls, sms or the occasional internet surfing its good enough. diamonds pitfall is really about the vga resolution. with 196mb(or was it 128) of ram, almost half of it was allocated for the graphics. the ati imageon processor eats a lot of ram. there is where i guess all the memory was wasted...
if htc had made the diamond into a qvga device, it would be blazing fast because qualcom msm chips rarely go over 400mhz and the diamond packed a 528mhz proc (if memory served me right) i guess most of it is shared with the ati imageon graphic processor. (which is a shame where imageon never cought on in the mobile world)
so with the technicalities aside, if you have the money get a touchpro or newer models because they have at least 256mb of ram. and the new snapdragons processors felt really nice.
but i guess the hardware is only as good as the software, and that's where xda-developers came in. when i first bought my diamond in 2008, it was hell for the first couple of weeks as the tf3d was actually released half baked... sluggish. then i just what i always did and do away with the warranty and flashed a cooked rom with all the bloat removed (windows and oem manufacturers really like to give us bloatware dont they?) then hallelujah. i have a fast stable device. its not as pretty as other mobile oses, but it works.