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Have you got a slow fix? Don't worry...I'll improve it!

Eheh, I didn't want to believe to it, but it seems to work
Install this small freeware and run it BEFORE you launch any GPS program: it downloads approximately 35 kbytes on your ppc and it allows you to have a rapid fix (a warm fix even if it should be a cold one).
Try it and write about your experience.
Ciao

I add some explanations on the program.
QGPS: improve your TTFF to seconds!
If you have a PPC with built-in GPS - this software is for you.
This is a small freeware that downloads Ephemeris data to your PPC using an internet connection with Activesync. If your GPS was off for more than 4 hours, then the next time you start it up you get a cold start , where the Ephemeris data needs to be DL to the receiver. This can take a few seconds to a few minutes, depending on your device and location.
The software downloads this data to your PPC so that you , in fact , get a warm start!
Just start the program, click the Connect button (no need for the 10 days data), and within a few seconds , you get the most up-to-date data. Now go outside and start your GPS program - you'll get a fix within 10 seconds!

sorry ... no fix after 30 secs

here after 67 sec.

sAnTeE said:
Eheh, I didn't want to believe to it, but it seems to work
Install this small freeware and run it BEFORE you launch any GPS program: it downloads approximately 35 kbytes on your ppc and it allows you to have a rapid fix (a warm fix even if it should be a cold one).
Try it and write about your experience.
Ciao
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OH Yesss. Very cool! This worked for me. I did a soft reset which usually means the GPS takes 1 minute or more under the most ideal conditions, much longer if you are moving or around buildings. After downloading the data with this app, it locked about 10 seconds after the GPS was recognized by the system. However it failed to initiate a connection automatically, I had to manually connect to IE to get a connection, then it downloaded the data every time.
THANKS!

Tried with an HP Travel Companion iPAQ rx5935 of a colleague here at work and it works fine too.
And as Matterhorn said: It failed to initiate a connection, I have to start IE first... then download the data.
Thanks a lot.

97 secs to have a fix , i am a quiet disappointed
i use the last radio

extenue said:
97 secs to have a fix , i am a quiet disappointed
i use the last radio
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I did not compute exactly the time needed for the HP. It was something around 1min too. But without this soft... we was around 5 min.
Also... It highly depends on the area where you are (discovered area… buildings...)

Matterhorn said:
OH Yesss. Very cool! This worked for me. I did a soft reset which usually means the GPS takes 1 minute or more under the most ideal conditions, much longer if you are moving or around buildings. After downloading the data with this app, it locked about 10 seconds after the GPS was recognized by the system. However it failed to initiate a connection automatically, I had to manually connect to IE to get a connection, then it downloaded the data every time.
THANKS!
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I also had to establish the connection manually

i didn't establish the connection manually

Santae, which version of q-gps are that you have posted? 2.03???
i found here 2.03 http://forum.pocketpcitalia.com/download/gpsct_1.27.2147.0. 4.1099.123.0.it.cab
can someone load on rapidhshare?

exist 2.06 version too

http://www.avaricum.net/

Yes, this was stolen from http://www.avaricum.net/ and it only works on the Globallocate GPS chip of the HP hw6515/6915, it will have zero impact on the Qualcomm chip of the P3600 or of a SiRFstarIII based unit. This thread should be locked before more people waste their time with it.

GpsPasSion said:
Yes, this was stolen from http://www.avaricum.net/ and it only works on the Globallocate GPS chip of the HP hw6515/6915, it will have zero impact on the Qualcomm chip of the P3600 or of a SiRFstarIII based unit. This thread should be locked before more people waste their time with it.
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OMG...placebo effect!

stranged, because i get now a very quick fix.
faster then before.!!!!

me too... from 4 minutes to 67 seconds

GpsPasSion said:
Yes, this was stolen from http://www.avaricum.net/ and it only works on the Globallocate GPS chip of the HP hw6515/6915, it will have zero impact on the Qualcomm chip of the P3600 or of a SiRFstarIII based unit. This thread should be locked before more people waste their time with it.
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Actually, I think "stolen" might be the wrong word, it looks to be an open download to me.

Normally it takes about 5 minutes or longer in front of my window to get a fix, no I got a fix in less than 1 minute, thanks man thats great!

It works great for me. Way faster than before. Thanks

How long does it take you to "seek GPS satelites" ?

Mine can take anywhere from 10 seconds to 10+ minutes.. in the same area (where I know i can get 6+ satelites). =/

wow
it is a custom rom? use quickGPS, run then hit the download button then use which ever GPS software you want to use. it helps a lot.

Yeah mine takes forever the first time it seems like but once I've found satelites it doesn't take as long that day or the next.

ah that might be it.. because i know I had quickGPS download stuff for me previously... and now it didnt.. so ill download the file and see how it goes.. thx for ur help

Will quick gps need to be working at the background or could I just close it after I download and start my gps program? Thanks

Just use QuickGPS, hit download and you can quit QuickGPS.

Between 10 and 120 seconds, usually, even when updated with QuickGPS.

Mine usually takes about 30 seconds to get its fix.
Note: I always keep QuickGPS up-to-date

5/15 secs.

Depends on radio rom probably also. Last time I poked at it, 1.27.15.32 was the slowest.

my gps takes almost forever to get a sat fix. and my quickgps would always give me a cannot download message everytime i try to download... anyone know the issue?

I have my QuickGPS set to auto download when it needs to, so as long as I'm not in a building with a steel roof I can usually get a GPS lock in under 10 seconds.
-Jay

ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
my gps takes almost forever to get a sat fix. and my quickgps would always give me a cannot download message everytime i try to download... anyone know the issue?
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Apparently mine too =(
I have just started playing with Destinator 7 last night. I was indoors and was not able to get signal in a 10 minute period before quitting the program (it was also cloudy out side too).
I Used to have Earthcomber. That took about 3 minutes indoors but I Finally got my GPS Icon Green. Never tried it outside, cause There are no maps of mexico with Earthcomber yet.
Do some programs get manage the reception better than others? Or is it pretty much equal?

Just using TomTom i can get a fix in about 20 secs. I don't even have to run Quick GPS.

Jimmyy said:
Apparently mine too =(
I have just started playing with Destinator 7 last night. I was indoors and was not able to get signal in a 10 minute period before quitting the program (it was also cloudy out side too).
I Used to have Earthcomber. That took about 3 minutes indoors but I Finally got my GPS Icon Green. Never tried it outside, cause There are no maps of mexico with Earthcomber yet.
Do some programs get manage the reception better than others? Or is it pretty much equal?
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Try google maps. When you open Google Maps click on the menu. There is an option called "Use GPS". Select that line and it will use the GPS antenna to locate you.

Jay2TheRescue said:
Try google maps. When you open Google Maps click on the menu. There is an option called "Use GPS". Select that line and it will use the GPS antenna to locate you.
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Thanks for the tip, google maps was one of the first map softwares I installed and I really enjoyed it.
Actually I take back what I said on my last post. I didn't realize how much impact on GPS reception is caused by being indoors (which was where I played a little with Destinator right after installing it earlier today).
When I had to go to class, just for kicks, I got the directions for my house to my university routed, and I got 8 sat reception on a cloudy rainy day in 15 maybe 20 seconds. The precision and drections are outstanding. I hear Destinator is bad, I did not find it bad at all. I also purchased Igo, which I will try tomorrow. I had so much fun with my first real GPS experience XD.

i run quick GPS then i run GPStool to get a good signal...then i run googlemaps and get a signal in 5secs.

Is this a tool i must download or is this build in tomtom?
THe tomtom version i have is 6.020.

p-de-geus said:
Is this a tool i must download or is this build in tomtom?
THe tomtom version i have is 6.020.
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Its not built into TomTom, its a separate download.
-Jay

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lennie said:
it is a custom rom? use quickGPS, run then hit the download button then use which ever GPS software you want to use. it helps a lot.
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Where can i find quick GPS i remember i saw it sometime ago but cant fin it again thanks for the help.
NEVERMIND I FOUND IT!!!!!!

GPS Configuration

Hi guys,
is there any article where there is GPS configuration described in details?
I mean what are the best/fastest/most stable settings of baud rate for the GPS unit?
I have tried the baud rate settings of 4800, 9600, 38400, 57600 and 115200 and the GPS looks working fine on all of these.
Theoretically it should work the best on 115 200. But the truth may be somewhere else.
Anyone can get me right in this?
Thanks.

gabriel31337 said:
Hi guys,
is there any article where there is GPS configuration described in details?
I mean what are the best/fastest/most stable settings of baud rate for the GPS unit?
I have tried the baud rate settings of 4800, 9600, 38400, 57600 and 115200 and the GPS looks working fine on all of these.
Theoretically it should work the best on 115 200. But the truth may be somewhere else.
Anyone can get me right in this?
Thanks.
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Leave the internal GPS settings alone. The location is updated 1/s (or less, sometimes much less) so it's not like there's a lot of data coming across.
If you get a bluetooth GPS, feel free to push it to 9600 or 38400, particularly if it's one of the units that will do more than 1/s updates.

Yeah, if you're willing to flash a new radio, get 1.58.11.07. It is one of the only radio's I've tried that actually seems to work properly with QuickGPS. I was getting satelite fixes after 5-10 minutes. Now it is more like 20 seconds on a cold start.

motocrossmann said:
Yeah, if you're willing to flash a new radio, get 1.58.11.07. It is one of the only radio's I've tried that actually seems to work properly with QuickGPS. I was getting satelite fixes after 5-10 minutes. Now it is more like 20 seconds on a cold start.
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Cold start = zero data, has to gather all data. 20 seconds is unlikely in that scenario, even a proper SirfStar III takes 60-90s in that scenario.
Not being started "recently" is not the same as a cold start.
I personally still have the AT&T shipped rom and radio and I get warm starts in the 30-40s range and if it's been off for a day or two, it'll take 2 minutes sometimes.
Generally you'll get a much faster lock if you're still and have a good clear view of the sky. I can get a lock from warm start in a building near a window, but even 30-35 minutes could not get one if it hadn't been on recently. My SirfStar III bluetooth unit does, but that's another matter...

hi all,.
i wanna ask something,.
i am using Garmin Mobile XT, with kaiser device, but i have some problem,.
1. It tooks a very long time when it have a cold start (after soft reset), about 30 minutes, is this okay? any way to get the sattelites locked faster??
2. After i got the sattelites locked, i quit the application, the i reopen the garmin mobile XT, but it couldnt found my GPS port, (usually it found on "serial GPS - com 4",) even when i choose that port, the GPS still search for the GPS port (gps unit),. is this okay? anyway, how to fix it?? any idea?
3. when no.2 is happening i power off the device, then turning back on, then it came back again, without any cold start anymore, but after i quit the application, then i reopen it again, then case no.2 is happening again,.
please, need advice,.
thankyou so much,.

GPS not working :/

I tried to use my GPS with three apps: Google Maps, TomTom, and LiveSearch.
The GPS would not work with any of them, the problem is that my phone is not finding any satelites. I have tried this in numerous places in the city, and nothing.
On TomTom, I have it configured to the built in GPS, but I read someplace to also try to set it to COM:4 and 4800, but that didnt help either.
Can anyone help me?
edit: Oh and all 3 programs are installed on my phone, not the memory card. I dont know if that makes a difference but just sayin'.

EuphoriaPL said:
I tried to use my GPS with three apps: Google Maps, TomTom, and LiveSearch.
The GPS would not work with any of them, the problem is that my phone is not finding any satelites. I have tried this in numerous places in the city, and nothing.
On TomTom, I have it configured to the built in GPS, but I read someplace to also try to set it to COM:4 and 4800, but that didnt help either.
Can anyone help me?
edit: Oh and all 3 programs are installed on my phone, not the memory card. I dont know if that makes a difference but just sayin'.
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You didn't wait long enough. Look for GPSTest on this forum and run it for a few minutes outdoors with visible sky.

khaytsus said:
You didn't wait long enough. Look for GPSTest on this forum and run it for a few minutes outdoors with visible sky.
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no i waited a good 5-10 minutes

ok I am running GPSTest but i do not know much about what it is showing.
i am seeing 2-3 green bars, sometimes yellow, and on the bottom there are a bunch of numbers.
the bars are green so im guessing this is a positive thing.
it is still not working with google maps or tomtom, with google maps i waited so long that it showed me an error message saying google maps cant detect my gps, so it cant be that i havent waited long enough.
in GPSTest settings, it says my GPS is on Com:6 and 9600 baud, so in tomtom and google maps i plugged that into the GPS settings values, but still nothing

Try setting it to COM4, and see if that helps.

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Try setting it to COM4, and see if that helps.
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did u even read my post? i said i did

Hi there.. I read this post and might have an answer... after I did a rom update (to an official rom too non the less) my TomTom software no longer would EVER find a satilite signal.. was depressing.. no matter how long I waited.. I did COm 4.. every bad rate from 2400 to 57600.. nothing worked... Then I decided to try that GPS toggle program (I attached it) and it worked great.. just do a soft reset after installed... Let me knwo if this works for you... It is basically a swtich in your today screen that "turns on" the gps chip.. even will show you how many satilites you are locked onto.. Once it turns "green" after you turn it on, start TomTom set in Com , 4800 and it will work like a champ I hope...
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did u even read my post? i said i did
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hey its difficult to say whats the problem really. howmuchever i have read about GPS problems (while going thru it myself) i have realized the following
1. its an issue with win 6.1
2. its a radio issue
3. you need to trial and error and check which radio version with which combination of ROM works best.
i am currently using PDAViet with the latest Radio version 1.70.19.09
finally, as a junior member, id like to request some of the senior members if they could come together and setup a thread which addresses the best combinations of ROM and radio versions most suitable for GPS applications.
that would help beginners a lot, as i myself have gone through a lot of searching for the proper combination
p.s. - even with what i have, it takes about 3-5 minutes before i get a lock, as against when i was on winmobile 6, i got a lock under 1 minute flat!!

Just wondering why dont you use Garmin, it is wonderful in my Tytn2 now, when I am in my car, it takes about 10s to get full GPS signal ...

External GPS !?!?!?

Just recieved a replacement Diamond from o2
Installed Igo but it doesnt seem to work, went into the system tab to update GPS but it say external GPS and not quick GPS as my old phone did!!
Does this mean ill need an external device? shouldnt GPS be built in? or do i need to configure it?
I did try to connect with IGO but after 10 mins of waiting i gave up!
Anyhelp would be appreciated guys

Diamond has a built-in GPS. You just have to configure it in iGO (port 4, baud 4800).

kosherpig said:
Diamond has a built-in GPS. You just have to configure it in iGO (port 4, baud 4800).
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just changed the settings, will try it tonight
cheers fella

kosherpig said:
Diamond has a built-in GPS. You just have to configure it in iGO (port 4, baud 4800).
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it didnt work
where can i download quick GPS? as my phone doesnt appear to have it

quick update guys
ive updated my ROM via the o2 website and it now has the latest quick gps installed
tried Igo and it works like a charm, so id recomend updating your ROM
this can also be done via HTC website

Speaking of external GPS, do you guys find the internal GPS takes forever to come up with the location?
I have an external BT-GPS, and it usually takes 20sec to 45 sec max to find the location.
The internal one takes ~ 1 min on a good day, but 1:30-2 min is pretty typical. When my battery is running hot (say 38C and above) it could take 4-5 min, sometimes NEVER.
Am I the only one?

Mine will only grab a location when it's connected to external power. But in that case it's actually fairly fast in getting the position.
I've got a thread up hoping for input - perhaps those two are somehow related.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547271