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GPS?

It doesn't work with any application. Do i have to turn on the internal gps somehow?
Please help me.

phelixx1 said:
It doesn't work with any application. Do i have to turn on the internal gps somehow?
Please help me.
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What applications did you try?
When you start the application does the right side LED blink orange?

Nav4all, tomtom, google, and yes it blinks orange.

Same problem here...I did run quickgps and downloaded the recent update...still nothing
phelixx1 said:
Nav4all, tomtom, google, and yes it blinks orange.
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azop said:
Same problem here...I did run quickgps and downloaded the recent update...still nothing
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Go to this page and see the link for external mirror 1. use it to download GPS TEST:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/GPS-Test-Download-34335.html
or get it here:
http://classic.pocketgear.com/softw...ssociateid=1224
When you have installed it, run it and it will auto scan the ports to find the GPS receiver. Make note of the port number - that's the one you'll need for your other applications (like tomtom etc). Make sure you have a clear view of the sky when running it and give it PLENTY time to achieve a first time fix.
By the way if you have ever used the "External GPS" on the Kaiser then you may have altered some settings that can stop GPS working. Unfortunately only a hard reset will cure this. BUT, try the above first. If GPS test can get satellites then so will other applications.
This little application GPS Test is also useful to run before things like Google Maps that some folks have problems with.
Mike

mikechannon said:
Go to this page and see the link for external mirror 1. use it to download GPS TEST:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/GPS-Test-Download-34335.html
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Mike, this is a great program, thanks.

and if it finds stuff but the other programs still don't work?

phelixx1 said:
and if it finds stuff but the other programs still don't work?
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Ok. If GPS test works and finds sats then, you have an incorrect port set on the other applications. From GPS Test see what port it has found the GPS on. Then in tomtom say, use "other nmea device" or "internal GPS" whichever option it has in the "configure" menu and set the port to the one noted from GPS test.
Fact is that if GPS test finds sats then everything is working and its just getting the link between the GPS and the nav software that needs fixing.
Mike

I just had to leave my house and try it on the road. Now it works everywhere. YEAH!!!!!!!!!
THANKS GUYS (mikechannon) !!!!!!!!!!

this works, but why do we need to run gps test before any gsp app? is there not a reg key that will be able to fix it?

Frontline said:
this works, but why do we need to run gps test before any gsp app? is there not a reg key that will be able to fix it?
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I used to have the same exact problem...Google Maps just gives up if it doesn't find a fix right away. TomTom does finally get a lock without GPS Test, but it takes less time if you have GPS Test running beforehand.

I had the same problem .. GPS would not work with Google, MSN live. Downloaded GPS test and still nothing. I finally did a "hard" reset (painful, but I did have everything backed up on my PC with Active Sync).
After the hard reset GPS worked GREAT! I must have messed up a setting trying to get it to work. GPS test now reports that the GPS is active on COM4, 9600 baud.

Frontline said:
this works, but why do we need to run gps test before any gsp app? is there not a reg key that will be able to fix it?
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You don't have to run it before every GPS application. Some folks find Google Maps benefits from doing this but I only suggested running the GPS test app to establish which port was being used. Even with Google maps you may find on subsequent occasions you do not need to run an app like GPS Test first.
Mike

accuracy
does anyone else have the problem where tom tom doesn't show the correct position it always thinks i am about 20 - 50 meters to the left of my real position.
I seem to be on fields an awful lot or 2 - 3 street over in city centres.
very bizaar

boultz said:
does anyone else have the problem where tom tom doesn't show the correct position it always thinks i am about 20 - 50 meters to the left of my real position.
I seem to be on fields an awful lot or 2 - 3 street over in city centres.
very bizaar
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I don't have that problem - even when I have few fixed satellites. However I did read a report recently where someone routinely had the arrow showing 200mtrs away from his position. Sorry to say it was only after a Hard Reset that the problem vanished.
As a side issue. I have noticed with tomtom and any other GPS software -
If you start the GPS software in an area with no or poor GPS signal, then it will take FAR longer to get a fix EVEN when you go into a clear sky area.. If however when you start the GPS software in a good open sky area then it will fix much more quickly.
The moral of this story - don't start the GPS when you are inside a thick walled building - wait until you get outside first. I'mguessing that starting in an area with a very weak signal sends it searching in all the wrong areas for satellites and it will then take a long time to find them even when you get outside. (This is true, I have noticed with all GPS systems I've used not just the Kaiser.
Mike

FYI, I have found that Map4PDA breaks the GPS. I believe it changes the baud rate to 57600, which is incorrect (it should be 9600). The only way to fix it I have found is to Hard reset and not install Map4PDA.
TomTom, Micrsoft Live Search (with Speach), & Google Maps work great. Features set in that order.
PS that GPS test tool works GREAT. Thanks for the heads up.

What is wrong with the freaking GPS?!

Hi guys!
Im freaking out! I have a Dutch MDA Vario3 and I just cant seem to get the GPS to work. Tomtom can find the intern gps but no signal! I waited for about an hour today and yesterday it didnt work also..somebody can help me out? I use tomtom 6.032
help me out will yah...

try using the gps test first or quickgps before tomtom.

kidd78 said:
try using the gps test first or quickgps before tomtom.
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I did quickgps for about ten times!
gps test?
thx for your reply

Were you indoors? Did you move to a different location? You might want to test it with an external gps receiver or try a standalone gps unit (if you can borrow one). Try and find something that is more sensitive than the Kaiser, and, in the same location, see if you can get a signal.
My point is, you might just be in a bad spot. This happens to me at work all the time, it never picks up a signal, even after an hour of searching.

you must set the right com ports up
find out which port gps is on ie. usually com7
go into config (tomtom) annd then guide the tomtom to com7
it will work took me a couple of days to work it out then seemed so obvious

The above advice is all pretty good. If this is the first time you have used tomtom then it can take a good while.
I am assuming tomtom shows the message "no valid GPS signal" after showing briefly the message "No GPS device". If so this is good. It means your com ports are set correctly.
There are two things to be sure of though:
1.
You have aclear view of the sky - especially on the first occassion you get a fix.
2.
Make sure you have a suitable map in the correct location. Obviously getting a fix when there is no map or the map is in the wrong directory will not succeed.
Did quick GPS work and give you a "valid until" date?
GPS test is a nice simple app that will show you the port number you are on so you can make sure tomtom is using the same one. BUT if tomtom only fails at the no valid signal stage then I think your ports are fine.
Finally, some fatal problems can occur if you have changed entries in the "external GPS" settings. This might (according to some folk) require a hard reset to correct. But try the above first.
Mike

Check this thread first..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330412
Try GPSViewer and select the port settings manually and choose "Open GPS".
You should see some som action through GPS strings in the Setup page.
Then try with TomTom or Google Maps.
I never had issues with TomTom, but google map was having hard time initializing. But after using GPSViewer, it works pretty neat and quick!

arunprakashr said:
Check this thread first..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330412
Try GPSViewer and select the port settings manually and choose "Open GPS".
You should see some som action through GPS strings in the Setup page.
Then try with TomTom or Google Maps.
I never had issues with TomTom, but google map was having hard time initializing. But after using GPSViewer, it works pretty neat and quick!
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It tests all com-ports,but gpsviewer cant find anything..

While it is true that you can screw yourself if you mess with the external GPS settings, you might not have to hard reset. Check the Kaiser Wiki; all the way at the bottom, you'll find links to the registry settings for the internal GPS. If you follow those steps, and set your TomTom to Other NMEA Receiver, you'll be fine no matter what you did with the external settings.

mikechannon said:
The above advice is all pretty good. If this is the first time you have used tomtom then it can take a good while.
I am assuming tomtom shows the message "no valid GPS signal" after showing briefly the message "No GPS device". If so this is good. It means your com ports are set correctly.
There are two things to be sure of though:
1.
You have aclear view of the sky - especially on the first occassion you get a fix.
2.
Make sure you have a suitable map in the correct location. Obviously getting a fix when there is no map or the map is in the wrong directory will not succeed.
Did quick GPS work and give you a "valid until" date?
GPS test is a nice simple app that will show you the port number you are on so you can make sure tomtom is using the same one. BUT if tomtom only fails at the no valid signal stage then I think your ports are fine.
Finally, some fatal problems can occur if you have changed entries in the "external GPS" settings. This might (according to some folk) require a hard reset to correct. But try the above first.
Mike
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I have the phone since yesterday! All settings are ok! I first had t-mobile ROM on my phone, flashed it over with a dumpped original dutch htc rom. (gps also didnt work at the original rom that was on it from t-mobile)
I live in de centre of the city. No clouds or anything..
Where can I find gps test? I tried GPS Viewer, didnt work at all, cant seem to find any ports. I did hard reset and still..it doesnt work..

Bram87 said:
I have the phone since yesterday! All settings are ok! I first had t-mobile ROM on my phone, flashed it over with a dumpped original dutch htc rom. (gps also didnt work at the original rom that was on it from t-mobile)
I live in de centre of the city. No clouds or anything..
Where can I find gps test? I tried GPS Viewer, didnt work at all, cant seem to find any ports. I did hard reset and still..it doesnt work..
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GPS test here:
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=24687&associateid=1224
It would help us to know the following:
1.
When tomtom is on does the amber led for GPS flash?
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Does tomtom show "no valid GPS signal"?
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Have you got a local map installed?
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Did quick GPS download current data?
Mike

1.
When tomtom is on does the amber led for GPS flash?
Jep
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Does tomtom show "no valid GPS signal"?
also correct
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Have you got a local map installed?
uuh..west europe map..
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Did quick GPS download current data?
it says after download "valid for six days and twentythree hours"
So I gues, yes
*thx Mike for helping me so far
Edit* gps test; shows "GPS is starting up"..(slow..)

Mmmm. Did GPS test show any bars in the end?
Mike

mikechannon said:
Mmmm. Did GPS test show any bars in the end?
Mike
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Hi mike..
It works..It took some time (alot) but..It works..Hope it keeps working!
Thank you and wish you a happy new year!

Bram87 said:
Hi mike..
It works..It took some time (alot) but..It works..Hope it keeps working!
Thank you and wish you a happy new year!
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Yep, first time around it can take a loooong time. After that it should be faster.
Happy New Year.
Mike

MDA GPS not avalible?

hello all!
i really hate to post a thread on something thats probably already been solved with an easy answer but after 2 hours searching/head scratching and various tools/program downloads i cannot for the life of me get my kaiser's built in gps to work.
on the phone:
T-mobile (uk) MDA Vario 3
R: 1.27.12.32
(edit: i now know this to be an older german/russian version, any advice on a newer version appreciated)
G: 22.45.88.07
D: 1.56.00.00
ive tried setting to com4 with various baud rates (weirdly it hung when i tried it with 4800 and had to soft-reset so didnt work!) ive installed vaious programs (GPStest/GPS info/ GPS Gate etc etc) with all programs including tom tom 7 saying that theres no GPS device!
im pulling my hair out!
im guessing i'll need to update the firmware but hopefully not!
im on my knees for help!
(btw, thanks for reading this!)

quasi_mojo said:
hello all!
i really hate to post a thread on something thats probably already been solved with an easy answer but after 2 hours searching/head scratching and various tools/program downloads i cannot for the life of me get my kaiser's built in gps to work.
on the phone:
T-mobile (uk) MDA Vario 3
R: 1.27.12.32
G: 22.45.88.07
D: 1.56.00.00
ive tried setting to com4 with various baud rates (weirdly it hung when i tried it with 4800 and had to soft-reset so didnt work!) ive installed vaious programs (GPStest/GPS info/ GPS Gate etc etc) with all programs including tom tom 7 saying that theres no GPS device!
im pulling my hair out!
im guessing i'll need to update the firmware but hopefully not!
im on my knees for help!
(btw, thanks for reading this!)
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The best way how to start gps is:
start quickgps and download the data, then if u have installed gps test, start it and wait for it to find the satelites. Dont change the options. Try to be outside and not in house or building.

no
the GPS is not being found, it is either disabled by the rom/radio or is Fubar!
simply downloading location data isnt going to get it to work!
unplug your computer, walk off into the distance, put it on the floor and tell it where it is.
does it turn on and boot to windows?
me thinks not.

quasi_mojo said:
no
the GPS is not being found, it is either disabled by the rom/radio or is Fubar!
simply downloading location data isnt going to get it to work!
unplug your computer, walk off into the distance, put it on the floor and tell it where it is.
does it turn on and boot to windows?
me thinks not.
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I dont understand what do u mean. I think the mda cant have the gps disabled, I have htc kaiser and the steps that I wrote always works for me.

perhaps you are running different firmware/roms ???
having fiddled with gps gate some more, an amberish/red led on the right side has started to flash, but still no programs can find the gps! i thought tomtom7 had it when it paused on com4 but then it stayed like that for 15 minites!
Grrrrr
and sorry mikulec for the harsh response, this is really getting on my nipples now!

quasi_mojo said:
perhaps you are running different firmware/roms ???
having fiddled with gps gate some more, an amberish/red led on the right side has started to flash, but still no programs can find the gps! i thought tomtom7 had it when it paused on com4 but then it stayed like that for 15 minites!
Grrrrr
and sorry mikulec for the harsh response, this is really getting on my nipples now!
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yes I have a different rom.
Another option - try to disable the assisted gps, for that u need to install schaps advanced config - that is a very helpful application.
There can be also one possibility that your gps is faulty.

i will try that and post back
cheers for your help so far!

quasi_mojo said:
i will try that and post back
cheers for your help so far!
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U are welcome and I wish u luck.

ok, i disabled assisted gps
now all my gps programs are reporting
'could not open com7 it may be in use'
but nothing else happens!

quasi_mojo said:
ok, i disabled assisted gps
now all my gps programs are reporting
'could not open com7 it may be in use'
but nothing else happens!
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Go to settings/system/external gps and tell me what settings(in the 3tabs-programs,hardware,access) u have set there.

Have you seen this Configuring Tomtom 6 thread linked to from the Wiki yet? If you've tried all of that and still it doesn't work, if it was me I'd hard reset and make Tomtom Navigator the only program I next installed then I'd test it again without making any configuration changes to it (at least the version I use, I don't know if other versions require any fiddling about to get them to work but TTN 6.032, Google Maps and Microsoft Live Search have all been just a case of once it's installed do a soft reset (not even sure this essential but I do it anyway) and then when I start them up, they work fine). Be very patient and give it ages out in the open to find satellites the first time after a fresh install/hard reset.

No GPS after official update
Hi,
I've got very similar problem : i've upgraded my Kaiser with a official rom/radio from Orange FR (wm 6.1, rom 3.31.73.0 FRE, radio 1.65.16.25).
Since this upgrade, my Kaiser cannot find the inboard GPS. I tried using Google maps, ViaMichelin, OrangeNavigation, and many GPS tools... none of them was able to find the GPS !
That sucks.
I called Orange 2 days ago, and i'm waiting for a response. I'll post there if any news.
Mathieu

yes please mathieu, would be good to hear what they suggest!

GPS SCAN software

I dont know about others, but I've been having problems about my TTN6 acquiring gps signal. What I would have to do is to open my GoogleMap and scan my location there and then open my TTN6. Even the GoogleMap is having a hard time. I have my setting on Com4 and 4600.
I also use QuickGPS and always updated. Not really sure if it is because of cold start but i doubt it. There are times that I'd be using my gps already and I'd have to soft reset my phone(due to alignment issues) and when it comes back on, I would take awhile for it to find a signal(even though i'm on the same spot when I soft reset the phone).
Any help if appreciated.

rxdrift7 said:
I dont know about others, but I've been having problems about my TTN6 acquiring gps signal. What I would have to do is to open my GoogleMap and scan my location there and then open my TTN6. Even the GoogleMap is having a hard time. I have my setting on Com4 and 4600.
I also use QuickGPS and always updated. Not really sure if it is because of cold start but i doubt it. There are times that I'd be using my gps already and I'd have to soft reset my phone(due to alignment issues) and when it comes back on, I would take awhile for it to find a signal(even though i'm on the same spot when I soft reset the phone).
Any help if appreciated.
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Try another radio! Radio has alot to do with your GPS fix, big time!

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well i'm using pc.ultimate.v10 wwe and the 1.65.14.06 radio. any advice what combination?

rxdrift7 said:
well i'm using pc.ultimate.v10 wwe and the 1.65.14.06 radio. any advice what combination?
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The tricky thing with radios is that they are different for every ROM, location and provider! So realy the only thing to do is try acouple out! Or go to the Ultimate Radio thread and read to see if someone from your area has recomended one or two! Here is the link to the thread! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Where are you located? If you are by me than I can recomend a couple!

location
i'm southern california

rxdrift7 said:
i'm southern california
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Ok, thats far away and much warmer than Minesota! Yea I dont know any for California! There should be some suggestions in hte radio thread though! Sorry, wish I could help you more!

not sure if there's a difference, but on my device, i have set it to com 4 and 9600 and things seem to work fine here in Malaysia and in my travels to Indonesia.
my first GPS lock took some time and doing, and i finally got it working after i ran this "GPS Test" program. Forgot the original thread & poster i found it here, but here's a post with the same. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374349

I had a similar problem. Not being comfortable flashing another radio, I tried a program called Franson GPSGate. It allowed me to use mulitiple programs that utilize the GPS signal at the same time through the same COM port.
I also get fizes in under 15 seconds when I have GPSGate running first. (it primes the GPS signal and keeps it ready for programs that need it). Just another option.

agreed
GPSGate is a great program. Trialware though. I have started tinkering with a program called "AmazeGPS" that will give you turn-by turn directions, and update your route as you travel, unlike google maps. definetly not as handy as google maps for local searches though. best used if you have an address already. The Radio on your phone does affect GPS, as well as all the other connectivity areas (data, phone, bluetooth, and even wifi, i think). if you are looking for something with good connectivity, 1.71.09.01 is an awesome choice. the tradeoff is that it is a bit of a battery hog. i am assuming that you will be using this in a vehicle or something, as gps itself is a battery hog, and if you plan on using it frequently, you probably have it plugged in somewhere. I live in Arizona, by the way. hope this helps!

Try the attached program, if you are able to see the satellite signal...

I live San Diego, using the PC.Ultimate.V16 rom with Tomtom7. I have my GPS configuration with other NMEA GPS, 57600 baud rate, COM4 and I get a connection in 15 seconds.

I think this question was just asked in another thread.... use GPSTest and then when it acquires a signal open up TTN6 or 7 annoying I know but it works for quite a few people

Excellent
Nice the GPStest, now i try to make functionally mi Googlemaps...
Tks

Here is my advice... I get that same problem sometime in my TomTom (I used to use 6.. but now using TomTom 7)... I installed that GPS Toggle that is a start menu item... It is nice.. it says GPS OFF or GPS ON.. When you turn it on, it says "SEEK : XX" XX beign the number of sats it is searching for... Then when it gets a lock it says "LOCK : XX" and also shows how many "bars" you have.... Sometimes I use it to just test out the GPS function w/o loading TomTom... But I have also found if I turn the GPS ON with it before loading TomTom it locks on faster (a lot faster)... I think it sort of jump starts the GPS chip to lock on faster... It is the same software you have to use if you have a HTC Mogul and want to use TomTom (For some reason TomTom doesn't see the GPS chip in that phone w/o this little program or something simmilar)...
I attached the one I use as a cab.. Just copy it over to your storage card... use file explorer and run the cab file... Then after it is installed do a soft reset... You may have to go into the Today screen options in settings and put a check infront of it to see it on the screen... Hope this helps
rxdrift7 said:
I dont know about others, but I've been having problems about my TTN6 acquiring gps signal. What I would have to do is to open my GoogleMap and scan my location there and then open my TTN6. Even the GoogleMap is having a hard time. I have my setting on Com4 and 4600.
I also use QuickGPS and always updated. Not really sure if it is because of cold start but i doubt it. There are times that I'd be using my gps already and I'd have to soft reset my phone(due to alignment issues) and when it comes back on, I would take awhile for it to find a signal(even though i'm on the same spot when I soft reset the phone).
Any help if appreciated.
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Gps signal

Hello all,
I Really need some help.
My TP2 Can't find any sattelites for GPS.
How can i set this up?
i have bought the TomTom Software, But can't use it since i dont have any Sattalites.. please help me!
Google Maps is also saying, "Seeking GPS Sattalites(0).."
what do i have to do?
greetings!

xheroxkefx said:
Hello all,
I Really need some help.
My TP2 Can't find any sattelites for GPS.
How can i set this up?
i have bought the TomTom Software, But can't use it since i dont have any Sattalites.. please help me!
Google Maps is also saying, "Seeking GPS Sattalites(0).."
what do i have to do?
greetings!
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I've had this problem too. While my dad was using Google Maps and getting great and accurate GPS location that picked up our signal inside Heathrow airport, mine was telling me we were over 3000 km away. I too would like to know.

download the latest satellite map and let it get a good lock, first time takes forever.
the GPS is only supposed to work if the phone has a clear view of the sky.
sometimes it will work with small interference (a car's roof for example) but inside a building you wont have any luck
make sure to enable "Use GPS" and not triangulate by signal

Never had any issues with GPS. If you have downloaded quickGPS data, it takes in matter of seconds (about 20) coldstart, hotstart is pretty much immediate. Without quickgps it is in terms of minutes, usually about 5 mins tops for coldstart. Hotstart is, depending on how far are you since you last time used GPS and how long is it, matter of seconds.

Hi there,
I used to have the same problem and I tried almost everything. I used different GPS tweaks which can be found in this forum like "turboGPS" but these would never work that well for me.
I found a great solution yesterday right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571266
Install the "GpsModDriver_320.CAB", follow the instructions, softreset, start the program you just installed and watch your device find the sattelites within seconds.
Just read the instructions in the link attached above.
have fun!

This should really be in the General forum, it's not a ROM development issue (or you could check in the specific thread for your ROM if it's a custom one, in case anyone else has GPS issues).

it works! i love you guys!