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TD's GPS thread

Hi all,
Could you please, be kind and post you experience with TD's GPS...
Since I got my TD(4 days) I have not been able to test the GPS at all
I have loaded some soft that could help me here. ( I travel a lot between Korea and Japan). Cannot really use the phone here, but WIFI works great and I thought I would give the GPS a test run.....no luck YET..
TD's own: QuickGPS has downloaded(through WIFI) all the info and it is up to date......But how do I set up the GPS itself???
Phone did not come with preloaded GPS software so,I have loaded following soft on itnone of them would recognize the gps)
i.e. " no GPS found."
1.Google Navigator 3.4
2.GPSvp (http://gpsvp.com)
3.Effica GPS Utilities (http://www.efficasoft.com/gpsutilities/index_wm_ppc.html)
I would really like to test out the GPS here first.I am returning to EU (home) in october or november and I would like to use it there as well.

sorry for the bump
I tried the search...not just this forum but all of XDA.....I cannot seem to find one successful step-by step activation as of yet???
Nobody has internal GPS running on their TD??
Anyone?

Runs perfect and is good quality.
Make sure you let windows manage gps (in external GPS settings):
programport COM4
hardwareport none
and in last tap check the checkbox.
Programs find gps at Com4 at 19xxx baud.

THX RIEL
thank You for you reply.
Will try tommorow morning.

Riel said:
Runs perfect and is good quality.
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Don't you have a problem with the static navigation? This behavior "drives"
me nearly crazy, because beside of that, the GPS in TD is superb...

On mine, no programs can access the GPS and the programs will lock and crash the phone when it tries to connect to GPS.
The onlt one that does not lock the phone is TomTom, but it wont connect to GPS.
I've tried combinations of the recommended port stttings, but I still get no GPS.
I have not activated A-GPS, so I don't know if the phone came with this already activated - how would I check this?

My GPS is a pain in the arse, From what i have read its because of the static navigation. So far it says i live in house number 20 when I live in house number 16 and when i'm on route I'm yet to hear a " You have arrived at your destination" because its accuracy is off about 50 metres.
Hopefully there will be a fix for this very soon.

can someone get me up to speed a bit? what is the 'static navigation' that i keep hearing about..
admittedly, i find sometimes the gps is slightly less accurate at placing my exact location compared to my old Trinity, but otherwise its worked great for me..

PaulusUK said:
On mine, no programs can access the GPS and the programs will lock and crash the phone when it tries to connect to GPS.
The onlt one that does not lock the phone is TomTom, but it wont connect to GPS.
I've tried combinations of the recommended port stttings, but I still get no GPS.
I have not activated A-GPS, so I don't know if the phone came with this already activated - how would I check this?
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Hey, have you got installed TomTom 7? I'm running TT7 and when I select "internal GPS receiver" it connects perfect. I know this doesn't exist in TT6, but I can also get my GPS running in TT7 if I set it to use a BT receiver on COM4 at 57600 baud. (Assuming you didn't mess around with the standard GPS settings, like HTC meant them to be )
Google maps is using the selection of "use windows settings".

racerx_ said:
can someone get me up to speed a bit? what is the 'static navigation' that i keep hearing about..
admittedly, i find sometimes the gps is slightly less accurate at placing my exact location compared to my old Trinity, but otherwise its worked great for me..
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Check this thread out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402039&highlight=static+navigation
and this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401833&highlight=static+navigation

hi guys
Same problem here. AGPS is disabled. I have tried Garmin,TomTom, iGo and google. 95% of the time it can not lock onto the sats. Once in a while it will work fine. Last night it picked up the sats in my bedroom on the second story and this morning outside in clear sky it found 4 sats but with very low signal and could not give me my cordinates, gave up after 15 min.
I have tried GPS tools and even that won't lock onto the sats. Data is upto date with quick gps.
So is it the hardware problem or has it to do something with radio? It can't be faulty TD because there are a lots of people with the same problem, and why lots of other users have no problems accessing the sats?
How is your gps working?

hi
great going sofar...thanks to all. We still have no real answers.
Let's keep this one going.
Looks like GPS is an issue with TD.
( Other than GPS...I am loving this sweet phone )

Now I am trying different roms to see if it is related to that. Will let you guys know if find anything.

Strange, on all ROMS my GPS reciever just works perfect.
Almost the best piece of hardware on the device
As I mentioned in Another topic, I use the GPS for TrackMe, at the same time I am navigation via Igo, and at the same time I showoff Google Maps with GPS support.
It functions very well!
Did you get the GPS-Fix downloads? It speeds up a lot.

Yes got the gps fix downloads but still no go. Still have not lost the hope. I hope its not some hardware problem.

I was fed up messing with mine, so I did a hard reset, and its sorted ...... for now!

same as Paulus
I did a hard reset....and it works perfect. No other adjustments done.
Tried the TomTom, Tracky Pro, GPS VP, and the HTC GPS Tool....all work no problem...outside I get a fix within a minute sometimes seconds.

I think one of the quirks that the TD's GPS has is that, when it's in Acquiring Satellites mode it doesn't seem to spit out any sort of status. The first time I noticed that I thought my internal GPS wasn't working, since with my external Holux unit I can see the satellites which the Holux was trying to lock onto.
Whereas with the TD's built in GPS it just snaps from nothing to.. acquired. So it's hard to see wheter it hasn't gotten a signal because it's in a poor area of reception or not. Usually I'll just try and stay still till I can get a lock.

Diamond Gps Sucks

I am so annoyed with HTC Diamonds GPS. It just sucks and doesn't work. I had earlier updated the radio to 1.25.06 and then it didn't work. Other members over here advised to switch to 1.25.05 and yet it doesn't work. I did a hard reset too but no luck.
Map King fails to work and Google Maps keeps on saying trying to seek Satellites and yet it just shows 0.
I am truly disgusted with HTC and will never again buy their products

Funny, I have a Diamond too, and my GPS works perfectly. Actually it's the best GPS I've ever seen. Flash 1.93 ROM, then use QuickGPS to download actual GPS positions and try again.
By the way, you're not trying to run GPS inside the buildings are you? Go out into the street and try there. GPS doesn't work inside.

nextavenger said:
I am so annoyed with HTC Diamonds GPS. It just sucks and doesn't work. I had earlier updated the radio to 1.25.06 and then it didn't work. Other members over here advised to switch to 1.25.05 and yet it doesn't work. I did a hard reset too but no luck.
Map King fails to work and Google Maps keeps on saying trying to seek Satellites and yet it just shows 0.
I am truly disgusted with HTC and will never again buy their products
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Kid:
Have you set manual settings in google maps?
This way:
COM4
and 4800.
Luck!

I had a flat tyre on my Mercedes the other day! I am so annoyed with Mercedes!
I will never buy Mercedes again!!

you need out your battery from your phone and put it back after one minute.

GPS works perfect on my Diamond. Much better than some car GPS devices i've seen. Dunno why yours doesnt work. Maybe you are a noob?
Doesnt work inside buildings btw..

Mine also working fine with MapKing2007 and HTC GPS Tool....
BTW I'm setting it at 57600.... is this fine? or actually does this setting matter?

I am currently running Swift Rom v5 and yes i am trying the Gps outside. Regarding the settings in Google Maps, i have kept it to automatic. QuickGps is also updated.
I will try the battery thing and will set it to manual
Thx to everyone for their input,

As the "I will never buy a HTC again" threads are coming up in decent sequence, I would dare to see a system behind it if I would be a bad mood. Backdoor marketing at a glance?
My TD GPS is the best I ever had. Sat fix with a loox N560 and Navigon MB6 - 2 minutes waiting. Same with my TD: 10 seconds waiting.
nextavenger, sometimes the prob is not in your hand resp. on the table but between the ears or behind your eyes? Just a guess though ...
Susan

I have no problem with the phone. I own two iphones too. I am enjoying my Diamond more than these iphones. When i had picked this phone, i had never intended for Gps feature but moving to a new city all together, i figured the gps can actually help me.
I went through all the previous threads complaning about the Gps lag and gps problems before starting this thread. Its not only me who is facing a problem. I did a complete research before starting a new thread. I bought maps specially for this and if the device doesn't work out of the box, its kinda sad.

it is not diamond's problem, gps is great in there !

When I bought my TD the GPS worked perfectly. Then i start flashing various roms and radios, and began experience various problems. Hard to get fix, losing signal and a huge lag.
Finally i flashed the new official rom 1.93 with radio 05 and all my problems disappear. Now it works great. It takes only seconds to get fix and the signal is rock steady, and the lag is no worse than other gps units i have before.
Try Duttys newest rom, he has integrated the radio and rom in his download. He thinks that flashing radio and rom at the same time may cure the gps problem, and i think he is right.

I flashed dutty's latest rom,did a hard reset and my gps gets a fix in a matter of seconds.

nextavenger said:
I have no problem with the phone. I own two iphones too. I am enjoying my Diamond more than these iphones. When i had picked this phone, i had never intended for Gps feature but moving to a new city all together, i figured the gps can actually help me.
I went through all the previous threads complaning about the Gps lag and gps problems before starting this thread. Its not only me who is facing a problem. I did a complete research before starting a new thread. I bought maps specially for this and if the device doesn't work out of the box, its kinda sad.
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for everyone who has gps problem, follow these steps and reset gps data:
1) remove battery for five minutes
2) install gpstest 1.04 and set it to com4 at 4800 baud
3) wait for a fix in an open space (about 3-4 min.)
4) exit the program and start tomtom (set it on integrated gps) or other navigation software and here you go!!!
These steps help everyone who has gps problem after installing, removing navigation softwares and works with every gps.
I hope this will help you. Bye.

nextavenger said:
I am so annoyed with HTC Diamonds GPS. It just sucks and doesn't work. I had earlier updated the radio to 1.25.06 and then it didn't work. Other members over here advised to switch to 1.25.05 and yet it doesn't work. I did a hard reset too but no luck.
Map King fails to work and Google Maps keeps on saying trying to seek Satellites and yet it just shows 0.
I am truly disgusted with HTC and will never again buy their products
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Is it working yet ?

ok so i did this thing:
Flashed my phone using Swift's recent rom i.e v5.5
Hard Reset
Setup my phone
removed the battery for 10 mins
installed GpsTest
Loaded Google Maps
and voilla! its now working. Gps is locking fast too.

this is the best gps a ever had (except the SIRF in the XTEN until it quit on me)
from day 1 my gps worked fine with the usual lag. changed radio and flashed a custom ROM (see my signature) and no more lag.
i can guess looking at all the gps threads (i think there are more threads on this subject than threads on new ROMs) that there is a problem. i just don't understand why so many ppl has it and so many don't
btw, i am using iGO8.

Never had a problem neither with my Diamond. On the 1.37 ROM with .03 radio it took my GPS between 15 - 30 seconds to get a fix after a cold start. Which I think is already quite fast. Now on the 1.93 + .05 on a cold start I'm able to have a fix in 5 seconds more or less. I'm really amazed! I loved my Diamond already, now I love it even more

nextavenger said:
ok so i did this thing:
and voilla! its now working. Gps is locking fast too.
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Pity you can't retract the heading of your thread....
My GPS works great also. No lag, fast locks.

You might want to download "htc gps tool". In that one you can do a warm reset on the gps, and that sometimes solves a gps problem.
Just dont run "clear storage" option in the program as you then have to restart, download quick gps settings, and restart again.
Greetings.

GPS not working :/

I tried to use my GPS with three apps: Google Maps, TomTom, and LiveSearch.
The GPS would not work with any of them, the problem is that my phone is not finding any satelites. I have tried this in numerous places in the city, and nothing.
On TomTom, I have it configured to the built in GPS, but I read someplace to also try to set it to COM:4 and 4800, but that didnt help either.
Can anyone help me?
edit: Oh and all 3 programs are installed on my phone, not the memory card. I dont know if that makes a difference but just sayin'.

EuphoriaPL said:
I tried to use my GPS with three apps: Google Maps, TomTom, and LiveSearch.
The GPS would not work with any of them, the problem is that my phone is not finding any satelites. I have tried this in numerous places in the city, and nothing.
On TomTom, I have it configured to the built in GPS, but I read someplace to also try to set it to COM:4 and 4800, but that didnt help either.
Can anyone help me?
edit: Oh and all 3 programs are installed on my phone, not the memory card. I dont know if that makes a difference but just sayin'.
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You didn't wait long enough. Look for GPSTest on this forum and run it for a few minutes outdoors with visible sky.

khaytsus said:
You didn't wait long enough. Look for GPSTest on this forum and run it for a few minutes outdoors with visible sky.
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no i waited a good 5-10 minutes

ok I am running GPSTest but i do not know much about what it is showing.
i am seeing 2-3 green bars, sometimes yellow, and on the bottom there are a bunch of numbers.
the bars are green so im guessing this is a positive thing.
it is still not working with google maps or tomtom, with google maps i waited so long that it showed me an error message saying google maps cant detect my gps, so it cant be that i havent waited long enough.
in GPSTest settings, it says my GPS is on Com:6 and 9600 baud, so in tomtom and google maps i plugged that into the GPS settings values, but still nothing

Try setting it to COM4, and see if that helps.

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Try setting it to COM4, and see if that helps.
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did u even read my post? i said i did

Hi there.. I read this post and might have an answer... after I did a rom update (to an official rom too non the less) my TomTom software no longer would EVER find a satilite signal.. was depressing.. no matter how long I waited.. I did COm 4.. every bad rate from 2400 to 57600.. nothing worked... Then I decided to try that GPS toggle program (I attached it) and it worked great.. just do a soft reset after installed... Let me knwo if this works for you... It is basically a swtich in your today screen that "turns on" the gps chip.. even will show you how many satilites you are locked onto.. Once it turns "green" after you turn it on, start TomTom set in Com , 4800 and it will work like a champ I hope...
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did u even read my post? i said i did
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hey its difficult to say whats the problem really. howmuchever i have read about GPS problems (while going thru it myself) i have realized the following
1. its an issue with win 6.1
2. its a radio issue
3. you need to trial and error and check which radio version with which combination of ROM works best.
i am currently using PDAViet with the latest Radio version 1.70.19.09
finally, as a junior member, id like to request some of the senior members if they could come together and setup a thread which addresses the best combinations of ROM and radio versions most suitable for GPS applications.
that would help beginners a lot, as i myself have gone through a lot of searching for the proper combination
p.s. - even with what i have, it takes about 3-5 minutes before i get a lock, as against when i was on winmobile 6, i got a lock under 1 minute flat!!

Just wondering why dont you use Garmin, it is wonderful in my Tytn2 now, when I am in my car, it takes about 10s to get full GPS signal ...

Getting GPS to work on tilt?

I've been trying to figure out how to get the GPS to work on the tilt, but every time i try to use the gps it won't find any satellites. Am I doing something wrong or is there a chance my tilt doesn't support it?

i assume that you are trying this while in outdoor, not inside the building?

fatosb said:
i assume that you are trying this while in outdoor, not inside the building?
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yes. i've tried it in every situation and it never finds a satellite. i am using quickgps also. i also tried gps gate.. never finds a satellite

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What radio/rom are you running? how are you accessing GPS? my initial troubles were because google maps timed out before the gps was fully active. hand down a little more info and maybe i can help.

.....so many GPS issues lately the tilt does of course support GPS but it just takes a really long time to get a GPS lock try using GPSTest and see if that works if not then your GPS is probably malfunctioning.

I'm not sure if this helps a whole lot, but I believe I recall reading that the Kaiser GPS will not work as well if the kaiser is moving under one mile per hour. And being outdoors never hurt. Maybe you could try moving around. Or a different radio (I think)? As far as I'm concerned, the GPS on my device is not even suitable for regular use because of the delay.
Dave

I have found that unless you use the GPS almost daily, it takes longer to lock on the longer it has been since it was last successfully used... The QUICK GPS doesn;t seem to work for me at all in solving this problem.. Sometimes (rarely) it can take upto 20 min to get a fix.. usually it is about 1 to 2 min though... I also hae found it works best when you get a fix when you are moving.... I am not sure what GPS program you are using, I use TomTom myself... I have this little app that toggles the GPS on and off... You mgith want to try that.. I will attach it in this message.. I also found that you should NEVER use the GPS indoors as it seems to make it take a LOT longer next tiem you use it.. onyl have it on when you have a clear view of the sky..
I use my TomTom almost DAILY and rarely have a problem.. No delay when drivign around and it gives great directions... I have also found sometimes if I do have a problem connecting.. I will elave it on for 10 min or so.. then exit out of TomTom (and turn off the GPS Toggle) then turn it right back on.. Sometimes I have an INSTANT lock... If that does nto work... try a soft reset.. I have found tha to help sometimes as well...
bcrisp82 said:
I've been trying to figure out how to get the GPS to work on the tilt, but every time i try to use the gps it won't find any satellites. Am I doing something wrong or is there a chance my tilt doesn't support it?
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Tomtom 6 driving me nuts...finding satellites one day, none the next...

I have a cross-country road trip coming up and I'm hoping to use TomTom on my phone as my navigation. Problem is, it only seems to work half the time. Sometimes it takes forever to acquire satellites, sometimes it doesn't at all, and sometimes it pops up fine. I'm always either outside or in my car, too. Are there any special settings I need to mess with? I see there's an "external GPS" setting on the Tilt, but I thought the GPS is built into the phone? I've searched around and found people changing the baud rate and COM number, but these don't seem to work for me. Any tips would be GREATLY appreciated.
EDIT: My apologies, it's TomTom 7.

Destinite said:
I have a cross-country road trip coming up and I'm hoping to use TomTom on my phone as my navigation. Problem is, it only seems to work half the time. Sometimes it takes forever to acquire satellites, sometimes it doesn't at all, and sometimes it pops up fine. I'm always either outside or in my car, too. Are there any special settings I need to mess with? I see there's an "external GPS" setting on the Tilt, but I thought the GPS is built into the phone? I've searched around and found people changing the baud rate and COM number, but these don't seem to work for me. Any tips would be GREATLY appreciated.
EDIT: My apologies, it's TomTom 7.
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I use tomtom 7 on my kaiser with no problems at all. You shouldn't need to play with gps settings. so long as quick gps app downloads its stuff every 7 days. It should work fine on standard install. If still problems you could try using a different radio as some are better that others for phone signal and gps locks and battery life. Which radio is best for you will depend on where you are and can be a bit of a black art to find the right one. I am in UK and use 1.70.19.09 and its fine. Check out the radio thread in the rom development section.

All the looking I did for a fix and I never heard of radio settings...will look into that, thanks.
The day I posted this thread, I left work and TomTom worked no problem at all. This morning it worked for 2 minutes then lost the signal the rest of the way.