I've been trying to figure out how to get the GPS to work on the tilt, but every time i try to use the gps it won't find any satellites. Am I doing something wrong or is there a chance my tilt doesn't support it?
i assume that you are trying this while in outdoor, not inside the building?
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i assume that you are trying this while in outdoor, not inside the building?
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yes. i've tried it in every situation and it never finds a satellite. i am using quickgps also. i also tried gps gate.. never finds a satellite
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What radio/rom are you running? how are you accessing GPS? my initial troubles were because google maps timed out before the gps was fully active. hand down a little more info and maybe i can help.
.....so many GPS issues lately the tilt does of course support GPS but it just takes a really long time to get a GPS lock try using GPSTest and see if that works if not then your GPS is probably malfunctioning.
I'm not sure if this helps a whole lot, but I believe I recall reading that the Kaiser GPS will not work as well if the kaiser is moving under one mile per hour. And being outdoors never hurt. Maybe you could try moving around. Or a different radio (I think)? As far as I'm concerned, the GPS on my device is not even suitable for regular use because of the delay.
Dave
I have found that unless you use the GPS almost daily, it takes longer to lock on the longer it has been since it was last successfully used... The QUICK GPS doesn;t seem to work for me at all in solving this problem.. Sometimes (rarely) it can take upto 20 min to get a fix.. usually it is about 1 to 2 min though... I also hae found it works best when you get a fix when you are moving.... I am not sure what GPS program you are using, I use TomTom myself... I have this little app that toggles the GPS on and off... You mgith want to try that.. I will attach it in this message.. I also found that you should NEVER use the GPS indoors as it seems to make it take a LOT longer next tiem you use it.. onyl have it on when you have a clear view of the sky..
I use my TomTom almost DAILY and rarely have a problem.. No delay when drivign around and it gives great directions... I have also found sometimes if I do have a problem connecting.. I will elave it on for 10 min or so.. then exit out of TomTom (and turn off the GPS Toggle) then turn it right back on.. Sometimes I have an INSTANT lock... If that does nto work... try a soft reset.. I have found tha to help sometimes as well...
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I've been trying to figure out how to get the GPS to work on the tilt, but every time i try to use the gps it won't find any satellites. Am I doing something wrong or is there a chance my tilt doesn't support it?
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Can someone please help me?
I have tried these programs:
Tomtom 6
Tomtom 7
GPSdash
BeeLineGPS
WMMiniGPS
GPS tuner
Google maps
I'm using the latest TLR ROM. My GPS setting are default. Com4 Baud rate: 4800.
Here's the problem. The programs seem to find the receiver and seem to find the satellites. (10-15). But I can get absolutely no signal at all. Indoors or outdoors.
I'm getting quite desperate
Have you used any of the tweaks for GPS? I ask as I did but my signal kept dropping - so I turned the tweak off and now it is fine.
I would also suggest using the QuickGPS application to get the Satellite information quicker
I've tried disabling agps. Didn't help. And yes I have used QuickGPS... but no luck.
Any suggestions? : [
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Was it the first try? When I tried first it was 6-8 minutes. Where do you try? In the outdoor?
Have you ever used it?
TB
Do you have correct setting "GPS is managed automatically" ?
When I set to GPS is managed manually, I could not found any way to power on builtin GPS. You have to check box "GPS is managed automatically". I think, it may be point of your problem
I had the exact same issue dude... TomTom 6 didn't work so I installed TomTOm 7... still no signal... even with QuickGPS ran...
Google Maps didn't work either....
I'm not sure what I did in the end... took out the battery, set GPS to 'let windows manage automatically' and ran Quick GPS again.. then run TomTOm 7, go to the 'GPS Status' screen which shows the sat signal charts and stand in a wide open area for 5 mins.. ever since then it has worked fine
all the best.
btw you have to make sure your system date and time are accurate coz otherwise it'll be searching for Sats with a wrong reference to the Sat almanac..
Yes, it's set to manage automatically. I've been trying to get a signal by the window, I left the device just sitting there for more than a half hour and still nothing. I guess I'll have to try longer while being outdoors. Hope it helps... but thanks for your help.
I did that too and it didn't work for me. You have to be outside for the 1st time GPS fix and make sure you run QuickGPS before that. Ohh yeah use TomTom 7 to detect the signal... I find that the most reliable somehow... and be sure it's configured to use the built-in GPS receiver...
I know it feels odd... I nearly sent my unit back for warranty because I was very convinced that the patch antenna was somehow disconnected from the chip. lol.
I had the same issue at one point, due to my fiddling and inadequate hacking attempts!
see if you can track down the HTC GPS tool (it's here on XDA somewhere, but i can't find a link at the mo) and run that.
Chipset should be set to Q7200 (yes i know its actually a 7201A but it works the same) and com port to com 4.
Tap the open port button and you should see the GOS info scrolling through the grey window in the program.
If you see nothing, check the external GPS settings
program tab should be com 4
hardware tab should be non and 4800
last tab should be ticked.
if you still get no GPS info scrolling through the gps tool, then it seems you have the same problem i did. Sadly, i had to hard reset it to get it working again, but it has been perfect ever since.
FYI, this started happening once i had turned aGPS on, and even turning it off did not work for me, so if you have to hard reset, i wouldn't bother ever turning the aGPS on again.
where's the option to turn aGPS on/off?
I just remembered how I resolved my issue... I put a SIM card in I had previously been trying to use it with WiFi (to update QuickGPS) but once I had a SIM in there, the GPS worked. Could it be because I'm now using aGPS? hmm...
you need to install schaps advanced config tool to get to the setting to turn aGPS on and off again.
it seems to be off by default btw.
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you need to install schaps advanced config tool to get to the setting to turn aGPS on and off again.
it seems to be off by default btw.
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I also kept lossing the GPS signal with this on every few seconds. So I turned it off for good
did you maybe install voip on your diamond? If so that's your problem there. Hard reset you diamond don't install voip en there you go.
It worked! Thank you all.... I had to sit for half an hour in direct sunlight but it was well worth it... I'm new to gps... do you have to do this with every new gps receiver or is this just another great feature from HTC?
I'm, having the same probelm here.
I'm on my second diamond as the first one (a HK version) had a fault with the internal speeker. On the First phone the internal GPS worked fine with both TOMTOM 6 and Google maps. The initial setup only took about 30 secs.
With the new phone (UK spec) I have tried TT7, TT6 and Google maps. I have also run quiick GPS, hard reset and enabling and disabling assisted GPS using the advanced config tool.
Is there anything else I should try or is this likely to be another hardware issue?
Solution To Gps Problem
if you installed VOIP you should hard reset...gps dead...:-( no other solution.
Help! My Diamond GPS reception is MUCH worse than on my Touch Cruise
Hi,
I've just got a Touch Diamond, and the GPS reception is absolutely appalling. I have hard-reset twice, after which I've done nothing except download a QuickGPS update, but still the signal strength and its ability to connect to satellites is completely inconsistent and unreliable, even outdoors. I CAN get a good signal occasionally, but it's very rare. Most often I get no GPS signals whatsoever, or else I get just a couple of weak greyed-out signal bars in TomTom.
I can lay my Diamond down next to my Touch Cruise (both have identical TomTom 6 software loaded from the same CAB), and the Cruise always launches the app faster, finds the GPS device faster, AND finds adequate satellites faster. The Touch Cruise has a lot of problems, but the one thing it has always been very good at is GPS, and it has NEVER failed to find adequate satellites in TomTom 6, even indoors. It always takes well under a minute to do so, too. It's surely not unreasonable to expect at least the same level of performance from the next generation of device. Why should the Diamond's GPS performance be demonstrably so much worse?!!
Nine times out of ten, my Touch Diamond will simply sit there for an hour or more with the TomTom status bar reading 'Waiting for valid GPS signal...". Quite often when I open the GPS configuration option in TT6, it shows absolutely NO SHRED of a GPS signal whatsoever, even outdoors. (My Diamond and my Cruise have identical GPS settings in both Windows and TomTom, by the way).
The annoying thing is that the Diamond's GPS HAS worked on a couple of rare occasions, and the signal strength has been at least as good as on my Touch Cruise. The Diamond is much worse at holding the signal however, and is totally and utterly unreliable for navigation. It certainly isn't the 'Ultra-sensitive GPS' that HTC's marketing promised - it's nowhere near as good as the GPS on the Cruise, which is the previous generation! The Diamond's GPS DOES work well on very rare occasions - it's just that 95 times out of 100, I'm not getting anything at all. This makes me wonder if it isn't a WM 6.1 compatibility problem or a conflict of some kind. It's almost as if Windows is having difficulty activating/waking the GPS fully. When (and if) it finally gets going, reception is actually very good.
I have also downloaded the HTC GPS Tool as someone here suggested, and it reveals the same results as TomTom - I usually get either no satellites at all, or I get two or three red satellite status bars and a message saying 'Fix not available'. It ALWAYS shows a data stream coming from COM4 though, so there doesn't seem to be any problem actually finding the GPS device. On the rare occasions when I have got a usable GPS signal, the HTC Tool then shows two or three red status bars and three or four green ones as well. During those rare periods, Google Maps can also find anything from three to ten satellites, even indoors. However, the next few times I try the Diamond's GPS, nothing will happen at all - it's suddenly as if all the satellites have fallen out of the sky.
By the way, would QuickGPS make ANY difference on the Diamond? As other have pointed out, aGPS is disabled on the Diamond by default. Aren't QuickGPS and aGPS the same thing? I don't know. But if so, surely the QuickGPS data is useless on the Diamond?
Does anyone have ANY idea how to make GPS on the Diamond work as well as it does on the Touch Cruise? Does anyone know why it doesn't already? Has anyone else done a direct comparison between the Diamond and another HTC device using the same GPS software?
I really like the Diamond, but it's incredibly frustrating that the GPS is unreliable to the point of being unusable. At the moment, I'm having to carry the Cruise for GPS navigation and the Diamond for everything else! Certainly not what I paid for. It should do this stuff straight out of the box. Since it doesn't, I can only assume my device is faulty so if I can't get it fixed by the weekend, I'm returning it for a replacement.
Thanks,
Rob.
P.S. Sorry for such a long post, but I needed to vent.
Hi there, I'm having the same problem as RH Photography.
All the programs are trying to communicate, but no fix at all. Once I got a fix, but only 4 sattelites, when in my car GPS BT had fixed to 9!
Will try hard reset and install HTC GPS tool an try to fix
Hi all,
Could you please, be kind and post you experience with TD's GPS...
Since I got my TD(4 days) I have not been able to test the GPS at all
I have loaded some soft that could help me here. ( I travel a lot between Korea and Japan). Cannot really use the phone here, but WIFI works great and I thought I would give the GPS a test run.....no luck YET..
TD's own: QuickGPS has downloaded(through WIFI) all the info and it is up to date......But how do I set up the GPS itself???
Phone did not come with preloaded GPS software so,I have loaded following soft on itnone of them would recognize the gps)
i.e. " no GPS found."
1.Google Navigator 3.4
2.GPSvp (http://gpsvp.com)
3.Effica GPS Utilities (http://www.efficasoft.com/gpsutilities/index_wm_ppc.html)
I would really like to test out the GPS here first.I am returning to EU (home) in october or november and I would like to use it there as well.
sorry for the bump
I tried the search...not just this forum but all of XDA.....I cannot seem to find one successful step-by step activation as of yet???
Nobody has internal GPS running on their TD??
Anyone?
Runs perfect and is good quality.
Make sure you let windows manage gps (in external GPS settings):
programport COM4
hardwareport none
and in last tap check the checkbox.
Programs find gps at Com4 at 19xxx baud.
THX RIEL
thank You for you reply.
Will try tommorow morning.
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Runs perfect and is good quality.
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Don't you have a problem with the static navigation? This behavior "drives"
me nearly crazy, because beside of that, the GPS in TD is superb...
On mine, no programs can access the GPS and the programs will lock and crash the phone when it tries to connect to GPS.
The onlt one that does not lock the phone is TomTom, but it wont connect to GPS.
I've tried combinations of the recommended port stttings, but I still get no GPS.
I have not activated A-GPS, so I don't know if the phone came with this already activated - how would I check this?
My GPS is a pain in the arse, From what i have read its because of the static navigation. So far it says i live in house number 20 when I live in house number 16 and when i'm on route I'm yet to hear a " You have arrived at your destination" because its accuracy is off about 50 metres.
Hopefully there will be a fix for this very soon.
can someone get me up to speed a bit? what is the 'static navigation' that i keep hearing about..
admittedly, i find sometimes the gps is slightly less accurate at placing my exact location compared to my old Trinity, but otherwise its worked great for me..
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On mine, no programs can access the GPS and the programs will lock and crash the phone when it tries to connect to GPS.
The onlt one that does not lock the phone is TomTom, but it wont connect to GPS.
I've tried combinations of the recommended port stttings, but I still get no GPS.
I have not activated A-GPS, so I don't know if the phone came with this already activated - how would I check this?
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Hey, have you got installed TomTom 7? I'm running TT7 and when I select "internal GPS receiver" it connects perfect. I know this doesn't exist in TT6, but I can also get my GPS running in TT7 if I set it to use a BT receiver on COM4 at 57600 baud. (Assuming you didn't mess around with the standard GPS settings, like HTC meant them to be )
Google maps is using the selection of "use windows settings".
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can someone get me up to speed a bit? what is the 'static navigation' that i keep hearing about..
admittedly, i find sometimes the gps is slightly less accurate at placing my exact location compared to my old Trinity, but otherwise its worked great for me..
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Check this thread out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402039&highlight=static+navigation
and this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401833&highlight=static+navigation
hi guys
Same problem here. AGPS is disabled. I have tried Garmin,TomTom, iGo and google. 95% of the time it can not lock onto the sats. Once in a while it will work fine. Last night it picked up the sats in my bedroom on the second story and this morning outside in clear sky it found 4 sats but with very low signal and could not give me my cordinates, gave up after 15 min.
I have tried GPS tools and even that won't lock onto the sats. Data is upto date with quick gps.
So is it the hardware problem or has it to do something with radio? It can't be faulty TD because there are a lots of people with the same problem, and why lots of other users have no problems accessing the sats?
How is your gps working?
hi
great going sofar...thanks to all. We still have no real answers.
Let's keep this one going.
Looks like GPS is an issue with TD.
( Other than GPS...I am loving this sweet phone )
Now I am trying different roms to see if it is related to that. Will let you guys know if find anything.
Strange, on all ROMS my GPS reciever just works perfect.
Almost the best piece of hardware on the device
As I mentioned in Another topic, I use the GPS for TrackMe, at the same time I am navigation via Igo, and at the same time I showoff Google Maps with GPS support.
It functions very well!
Did you get the GPS-Fix downloads? It speeds up a lot.
Yes got the gps fix downloads but still no go. Still have not lost the hope. I hope its not some hardware problem.
I was fed up messing with mine, so I did a hard reset, and its sorted ...... for now!
same as Paulus
I did a hard reset....and it works perfect. No other adjustments done.
Tried the TomTom, Tracky Pro, GPS VP, and the HTC GPS Tool....all work no problem...outside I get a fix within a minute sometimes seconds.
I think one of the quirks that the TD's GPS has is that, when it's in Acquiring Satellites mode it doesn't seem to spit out any sort of status. The first time I noticed that I thought my internal GPS wasn't working, since with my external Holux unit I can see the satellites which the Holux was trying to lock onto.
Whereas with the TD's built in GPS it just snaps from nothing to.. acquired. So it's hard to see wheter it hasn't gotten a signal because it's in a poor area of reception or not. Usually I'll just try and stay still till I can get a lock.
Hi guys..
i think i need some help here.. iv had quite a few HTC phones ever since they came out soo know my way around the software somewhat good
but, my new Diamond is the first iv had with buildin GPS .. but it seems like there is a problem with mine.. even thou in tomtom7 it can see the sat's and gives a "connection/detection bar" on the sat overlook page in tomtom they stay grey (not rly connected) (connected sats are blue)
and when im outside it connects now and then but disconnects from the sats more or less same sec :S and after 1-3min it get a connection again and gets cut off again as before, and so on...
iv tryed once - where it seemed to get an connection it could hold. and there it worked great even indoor.. but after shutting tomtom down and letting it rest for a bit i was back to the old problem... which is kinda fustrating..
any bright ideas?
i tryed making a vitual port with GPSGate but thats the same..
cant seem to find anywhere in the settings of WM where i can do anything about the GPS..
PFW//
did you try hardreset ?
if not
backup your files and hardreset!
It seems that this issue comes from the A-GPS setting in Diamond Tweak.
Did you install this software?
Otherwise, try to use QuickGPS and download latest info.
On mine, this resolved the issue.
Nevermind, browser crash and beaten by Phoenix with the answer
well havent tryed hardreset yet - keeping that as last way out.. would suck having to reinstall everything..
as far as i know i havent installed diamond tweak, and iv run quickgps 500 times to try and resolve it.. only thing i can think of it might have been if that i ran quick gps just when i got the handset, but dident notice my date and time was set incorrect.. not sure if that could have done anything.. but thats my best guess..
Right... dont ask why.. but just for the fun of it, even tho iv done it 500 times before i just tryed running quickgps (again again) ... and bob's-ur-uncle it works..
freaky.. wierd handset.. not like its not getting enough attention lol
anyways.. thx for the help !
i blame the fact that its a Microsoft based thing lol..
cheers guys
i have the same problem, i run tt7, gps connection show 4/5 satellites log in, but the tt7 remain grey. This situation is for 3/4 minutes and only after this time the tt7 goes on and color.
Which is the problem?
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i have the same problem, i run tt7, gps connection show 4/5 satellites log in, but the tt7 remain grey. This situation is for 3/4 minutes and only after this time the tt7 goes on and color.
Which is the problem?
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yea its wierd.. but dont quite know what it was that made mine work again.. i had my wifi turned on and ran the QuickGPS and kept the wifi going while starting and running tt7, and i stept outside, and it got connected like 3 sec after i wentoutside and held the connection which is great
but cant figgur out why it worked this time.. iv updated QuickGPS loads of times to see it that would help.. only thing i (think) i did different that time was the wifi was still on..
tho i have to add, unless your house is made of cardboard its not that great inside.. soo give it a try outside to give it the best chance of finding a connection =)
PS: Still works today.. takes 2 sec to get a connection under open sky
Possible solution
Had the same problem. Just disable A-gps (with Advanced Config from Schap) and everything works fine. It seems that A-gps is not (correctly) supported by all providers.
Good luck.
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Had the same problem. Just disable A-gps (with Advanced Config from Schap) and everything works fine. It seems that A-gps is not (correctly) supported by all providers.
Good luck.
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I just installed the Advanced Config tool and looked through the settings, and somehow my A-GPS has been disabled, and I tryed turning it on, and quite right - i was back to having problems with the gps..
Disabled it again, and the GPS now works perfectly
Soo i am 99,9% certain that this is whats making problems with our GPS (thx Atsee)
Thanks, this tip just saved my day.
cheers
//Jocke
i do a soft reset and now seems to be ok.
thanks.
..but now i have a second problem: i mark POI for show it on map, but they don't appear on map when tt7 is running. How i can see those on map?
I have a cross-country road trip coming up and I'm hoping to use TomTom on my phone as my navigation. Problem is, it only seems to work half the time. Sometimes it takes forever to acquire satellites, sometimes it doesn't at all, and sometimes it pops up fine. I'm always either outside or in my car, too. Are there any special settings I need to mess with? I see there's an "external GPS" setting on the Tilt, but I thought the GPS is built into the phone? I've searched around and found people changing the baud rate and COM number, but these don't seem to work for me. Any tips would be GREATLY appreciated.
EDIT: My apologies, it's TomTom 7.
Destinite said:
I have a cross-country road trip coming up and I'm hoping to use TomTom on my phone as my navigation. Problem is, it only seems to work half the time. Sometimes it takes forever to acquire satellites, sometimes it doesn't at all, and sometimes it pops up fine. I'm always either outside or in my car, too. Are there any special settings I need to mess with? I see there's an "external GPS" setting on the Tilt, but I thought the GPS is built into the phone? I've searched around and found people changing the baud rate and COM number, but these don't seem to work for me. Any tips would be GREATLY appreciated.
EDIT: My apologies, it's TomTom 7.
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I use tomtom 7 on my kaiser with no problems at all. You shouldn't need to play with gps settings. so long as quick gps app downloads its stuff every 7 days. It should work fine on standard install. If still problems you could try using a different radio as some are better that others for phone signal and gps locks and battery life. Which radio is best for you will depend on where you are and can be a bit of a black art to find the right one. I am in UK and use 1.70.19.09 and its fine. Check out the radio thread in the rom development section.
All the looking I did for a fix and I never heard of radio settings...will look into that, thanks.
The day I posted this thread, I left work and TomTom worked no problem at all. This morning it worked for 2 minutes then lost the signal the rest of the way.
Hello all,
I Really need some help.
My TP2 Can't find any sattelites for GPS.
How can i set this up?
i have bought the TomTom Software, But can't use it since i dont have any Sattalites.. please help me!
Google Maps is also saying, "Seeking GPS Sattalites(0).."
what do i have to do?
greetings!
xheroxkefx said:
Hello all,
I Really need some help.
My TP2 Can't find any sattelites for GPS.
How can i set this up?
i have bought the TomTom Software, But can't use it since i dont have any Sattalites.. please help me!
Google Maps is also saying, "Seeking GPS Sattalites(0).."
what do i have to do?
greetings!
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I've had this problem too. While my dad was using Google Maps and getting great and accurate GPS location that picked up our signal inside Heathrow airport, mine was telling me we were over 3000 km away. I too would like to know.
download the latest satellite map and let it get a good lock, first time takes forever.
the GPS is only supposed to work if the phone has a clear view of the sky.
sometimes it will work with small interference (a car's roof for example) but inside a building you wont have any luck
make sure to enable "Use GPS" and not triangulate by signal
Never had any issues with GPS. If you have downloaded quickGPS data, it takes in matter of seconds (about 20) coldstart, hotstart is pretty much immediate. Without quickgps it is in terms of minutes, usually about 5 mins tops for coldstart. Hotstart is, depending on how far are you since you last time used GPS and how long is it, matter of seconds.
Hi there,
I used to have the same problem and I tried almost everything. I used different GPS tweaks which can be found in this forum like "turboGPS" but these would never work that well for me.
I found a great solution yesterday right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571266
Install the "GpsModDriver_320.CAB", follow the instructions, softreset, start the program you just installed and watch your device find the sattelites within seconds.
Just read the instructions in the link attached above.
have fun!
This should really be in the General forum, it's not a ROM development issue (or you could check in the specific thread for your ROM if it's a custom one, in case anyone else has GPS issues).
it works! i love you guys!