I got my Diamond delivered yesterday from Expansys, the unit arrived almost a week early which was fantastic, however it appears Expansys are selling grey imports, see: http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?k=110164
a. What is a grey import?
b. Why does the HTC website not acknowledge the serial number?
c. Should I sent the unit back and wait until the 'UK Official Stock' arrives?
Thanks.
A grey import, to my knowledge, means that its not the white (i.e legal) market, but not the black (i.e. illegal) market, but inbetween. So, was imported legally, but youre not meant to sell it to UK residents. Which in this case means no UK warranty and as you have seen, a serial not recognised by HTC UK's website.
As other people have suggested, wait until the other stores are shipping real UK stock, i.e devicewire, clove etc, and then call them and complain, that way, you dont have to wait until they get official stock in.
Rory
a. Rory's right. Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_market
"The grey market is the trade of something legal through unofficial, unauthorized, unintended distribution channels."
So basically, they're importing the Touch Diamond and selling it before they should. Nothing particularly illegal, but HTC are going to be really angry with Expansys.
b. I have no idea. Perhaps you could get in contact with HTC and see what they say you should do.
c. I would refer you to my answer for b.
If your in the UK you're covered by distance selling regulations. You can send it back within 7 days
http://www.oft.gov.uk/advice_and_resources/resource_base/legal/distance-selling-regulations/
Also you are perfectly entitled to send it back because it is not as described - which of course its not if its a grey import.
If expansys give you grief you can use trading standards, or even have your credit card company retract the payment and deal with it for you
Expansys usually tell you all the details of each handset before you buy it such as language and warranty coverage, depending on which Expansys site you are ordering from (I've found alarming price differences for the same Touch Diamond depending on where you order it from) so you need to strike a balance assuming you have no import restrictions.
I just realised something... Remember when Lik-Sang imported PSP's to the UK and Europe, and even to the SCEE President, and Sony sued them at the High court and got them closed down, stating that the power adapters weren't safe, could HTC do the same? Would serve Expansys right for
A) misleading and
B) overpricing.
Rory
I dont get this guys, HTC.com are partners with Expansys, and HTC are selling direct online through Expansys.
HTC´s online store;
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc.aspx
Powered by Expansys!
If you can register the Diamond on HTC's website then I figure it is ok and the warranty stands. However, if you cannot then I would be starting to think about returning it and asking Expansys to pick up all related costs...
R
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http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=163250
HTC Touch Diamond
can this be true, i have mine on pre-order
probably and a 500 quid it can stay in stock !! Thats a shocking price
I have not ordered from there, but i have been told 9th June at least , thats is expensive but how they got them so quick before everyone else
Thanks
Brian
Well thay are a massive company now and i guess have a close working relationship with HTC . Or they are grey imports in which case you will pay way way over the odds with a warranty in china or bermuda or somewhere silly.
The problem is is they are notorious for selling all new releases above the recommended price . I personally wont use them anymore as i feel they rip people off . By next week when everyone has stock they will drop there price but still not competetively !
It is us the consumer that keeps them afloat and as long as we keep buying from them at over inflated prices then who is the fool . I would love everyone to boycott them because of this but that urge for a new device can be pretty hard o resist at times . They know this and like leaches bleed you .
I have posted several posts in their forums on their over pricing and every single one of them has been removed . I think that speaks for itself really.
Yeah, they do tend to price things ridiculously. The funny thing is I don't mind a small premium in exchange for knowing that they are the cutting-edge gadget provider, who will get us the coolest gadgets first, but the key word is 'small'.
I think when the N95 8GB came out they had it at around £600 for a week or so.
expansys appear to have some tie up with htc - if you go through www.htc.com and goto uk as country then accesory shop - you end up on a site hosted by expansys - so I think that they are probably not grey imports and I also think they are milking the cash cow for being able to get them early....
Malarcy
Yeah, Expansys do seem to have them in stock. Personally, I'd rather save near £100 by waiting for a few days.
Yep Expansys is a rip off, they charge stupidly high prices for their phones...well the new upcoming ones like the Diamond. When i bought my N95 8gb , they were selling it for around £600!!!...thankfully i got one off ebay for £350 brand new.
Im actually dreading seeing the price for the new SE Xperia X1...wouldnt be surprised if they sell that at well over £600.
lol EXPANSYS uped the price again . They are so obvious !!
I would never buy from them again. Loads of other retailers around that are a lot cheaper
They got stung trying to do grey HP imports years ago, as non EU items sold in UK are not allowed, I would be very very suprised if they are grey imports, as they are breaking the law and I suspect most people would be sending them back, we have very good consumer laws here in UK.
Hello,
I ordered my Diamond english EU on May 7 in expansys.pt and today I received confirmation that I sent the Diamond English UK, tomorrow already have it here in Portugal
Someone can tell me if there is any difference between the English version EU and UK English ?!!??
It's also in stock at On The Go Solutions: http://www.htcphonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_DIAMOND
...
rolandrat said:
They got stung trying to do grey HP imports years ago, as non EU items sold in UK are not allowed, I would be very very suprised if they are grey imports, as they are breaking the law and I suspect most people would be sending them back, we have very good consumer laws here in UK.
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Well have a look here , looks like where there is smoke there is fire http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4079.html
Another customer rip off from expansys if this is true and I guess HTC will be a bit annoyed as well
Can confirm they do have them in as i dont live far away from their. It is deffinatley black as one of the workershad it on the desk. As i went to pick up a headset i asked the guy if i could look at it. Deffinatley the real thing and it was black and he did say he had lots in stock.
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Can confirm they do have them in as i dont live far away from their. It is deffinatley black as one of the workershad it on the desk. As i went to pick up a headset i asked the guy if i could look at it. Deffinatley the real thing and it was black and he did say he had lots in stock.
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Grey Imports doesn't mean they are grey ;o) . I'm sure they are black. A grey import is a machine (Touch Diamond) that is for reasale in another country being sold in the wrong country.
EG Touch Diamonds ment for China being sold in the UK are classed as grey imports. Your warranty can only be delt with in China .. Hope this helps and thanks for making me smile.
wardy said:
Well have a look here , looks like where there is smoke there is fire http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4079.html
Another customer rip off from expansys if this is true and I guess HTC will be a bit annoyed as well
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Already seen that before posting.
The website shows it as UK item, they would be selling counterfeit goods if they are not UK (or EU), which means trading standards would be very interested.
And like you said HTC will be livid.
Expansys says that the warranty is HTC's Worldwide warranty. Still the price is a little bit too much.
Someone on the expansys forums has posted saying they ARE imports. Oh dear! I would say punish expansys and everyone send them back under the various laws they have broken and/or the sale of goods act/distant selling laws.
Bit odd that all the defaults are to Hong Kong
Makes you wonder where they were sourced from ... Still, loving it .. only had it a couple of hours and everyone in the office wants a play!
that's because it is a Hong Kong device that is not covered by HTC's global warranty.
If it dies, you'd have to send it back to Hong Kong to get it fixed!
An EU English device would default to Seattle timezones etc. Not Hong Kong.
Hi all, first post so hello. I've been reading various reports on here and elsewhere about expansys' so called UK version.
Will the official UK phone be any different/better? I'm a bit concerned and wondered whether to send it back and wait for Tmobile to release it.
What you reckon?
Return
If you purchase a T-Mobile it will be locked not unlocked and I beleive the number will be HTC P3702 or 3.
The UK version will have more up-to-date software (HTC have delayed the release date to apply software fixes). Also, the Expansys Diamonds have been imported from HK, so it's not clear what will happen about the warranty.
If I were you, I'd play with the Diamond for a bit, then send it back to Expansys and try to get my money back. Then I'd buy an unlocked Diamond whenever it is properly released in the UK (probably sometime between the 15th and 25th) for much cheaper from somewhere like Play.com, TotalPDA or INKINO (I can't believe Expansys are charging even more than INKINO).
Dark Fire said:
The UK version will have more up-to-date software (HTC have delayed the release date to apply software fixes). Also, the Expansys Diamonds have been imported from HK, so it's not clear what will happen about the warranty.
If I were you, I'd play with the Diamond for a bit, then send it back to Expansys and try to get my money back. Then I'd buy an unlocked Diamond whenever it is properly released in the UK (probably sometime between the 15th and 25th) for much cheaper from somewhere like Play.com, TotalPDA or INKINO (I can't believe Expansys are charging even more than INKINO).
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Thanks for the quick replies.
I paid £120 for it with a 12 month £42.50 contract. Only had it couple of days so i think i have 14 days to cancel?
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Thanks for the quick replies.
I paid £120 for it with a 12 month £42.50 contract. Only had it couple of days so i think i have 14 days to cancel?
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I think thats expensive. Its probably cheaper for you to get it offline (totalpda 410, play.com about the same), and get some other phone for free with contract and ebay that.. or get just a contract at a discounted price from these online stores.
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I think thats expensive. Its probably cheaper for you to get it offline (totalpda 410, play.com about the same), and get some other phone for free with contract and ebay that.. or get just a contract at a discounted price from these online stores.
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Thanks. How would i stand with returning the phone and cancelling the contract? Is it 14days to cancel? Would i get my £120 refunded?
nokmond said:
Thanks. How would i stand with returning the phone and cancelling the contract? Is it 14days to cancel? Would i get my £120 refunded?
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yes you will get all money back maybe a restock fee will apply, but most contract provides should not charge this.
You'll get a total refund. You're covered by distance selling regulations. Some people call this a cooling off period, but its actually to protect you from shoddy descriptions, since you can't physically see the product.
This 'cooling off' period is a myth, and doesnt automatically apply to phone contracts by any law. All networks build it into their T&C when you buy direct, but be very careful, some retailers like carephone warehouse for example are agents for say O2, and so have their own contract, which has no cooling off. If you walked into carephone warehouse store and signed up you'd be outta luck. Online, you could use distance selling regulations to cancel (yeah they still apply because its seen as a product).
If in dought, always buy online (with a decent credit card). Sounds funny doesnt it? only a coupla years ago we would be advising the opposite! But you have alot more protection now online and with a credit card.
Refuse to pay any restocking fee if they ask you for one say its not a UK device as advertised. All else fails, call your credit card company and let them deal with it
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You'll get a total refund. You're covered by distance selling regulations. Some people call this a cooling off period, but its actually to protect you from shoddy descriptions, since you can't physically see the product.
This 'cooling off' period is a myth, and doesnt automatically apply to phone contracts by any law. All networks build it into their T&C when you buy direct, but be very careful, some retailers like carephone warehouse for example are agents for say O2, and so have their own contract, which has no cooling off. If you walked into carephone warehouse store and signed up you'd be outta luck. Online, you could use distance selling regulations to cancel (yeah they still apply because its seen as a product).
If in dought, always buy online (with a decent credit card). Sounds funny doesnt it? only a coupla years ago we would be advising the opposite! But you have alot more protection now online and with a credit card.
Refuse to pay any restocking fee if they ask you for one say its not a UK device as advertised. All else fails, call your credit card company and let them deal with it
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Thanks. I paid for it via credit card from expansys. Looks like play.com will be a better option.
nokmond said:
Thanks. I paid for it via credit card from expansys. Looks like play.com will be a better option.
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There's also a power seller on ebay eCell or something for 400 quid including postage. It'll be another import, but at that price i do think it may be worth considering for some people.
I have been waiting patiently to get one on a contract from O2 but I have not heard any news regarding the UK release and I'm beginning to lose patient + the price from Play.com is extremely attractive.
Perhaps I will wait until the iPhone 3G comes out in the hope that the price will come down further
It's £394.99 with this offer...
Tempted to go for it - but then I'm due for a renewal soon with T-Mobile.
Anyone know whether the upgrade from T-Mobile will be free or do they evaluate each case individually?
Just a friendly warning, my experience with Play.com is extremely bad... When they said they sent stuff out, they actually hadn't, delivery weeks later than agreed to, unfriendly/unknowledgable support, etc.
Then again, that might have been a fluke, instead of their general way of dealing with things. After that one time I never ordered from them again
I find Play.com pretty good for stock accuracy! It just ussually takes an extra day due to being in Jersey. I am still waiting on the batteries, but everytime it gets to the release date they change it!! very annoying, But ussually when it says in stock it is!! in my experience anyway!!
If i hadn't already got one! i'd defo be ordering from here!!
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Just a friendly warning, my experience with Play.com is extremely bad... When they said they sent stuff out, they actually hadn't, delivery weeks later than agreed to, unfriendly/unknowledgable support, etc.
Then again, that might have been a fluke, instead of their general way of dealing with things. After that one time I never ordered from them again
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I have been using Play.com for the last 8 years and never experience a single problem with them. All my orders were always delivered on time (witin 5 working days), I reckon your case must of been a one-off
You should give them a second chance
I've just replied in another thread regarding play.com
Since they are based in Jersey (a tax free zone) the customers are liable for paying all VAT taxes if the phone gets held up at customs. This is clearly stated in their Terms & Conditions.
2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
be careful guys.
well i got a gray import from HK and he gives a 12 month guarantee lol my HTC guarantee is worth nothing anyway after i flashed it, so i will that the £60 i saved (it was about 340 GBP) a spend it if anything does go wrong...
happyguy82 said:
I've just replied in another thread regarding play.com
Since they are based in Jersey (a tax free zone) the customers are liable for paying all VAT taxes if the phone gets held up at customs. This is clearly stated in their Terms & Conditions.
2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
be careful guys.
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From HM Revenue & Customs website:
Goods purchased from traders in Jersey and Guernsey
Customs has in place with the Jersey and Guernsey Customs and Postal authorities a special scheme that allows many of their traders to collect and pay to UK Customs import VAT on sales they make to UK customers. These traders, who are approved by the Jersey and Guernsey authorities, are allocated a unique authorisation number and this should be stated on the outside of your package. Under these arrangements you will be asked to pay import VAT, if applicable, at the time you make your purchase, and will not have to pay any additional costs such as import VAT, or the Royal Mail handling fee, when you receive your goods.
Unless I misread it, I believe you don't need to pay any import VAT on it.
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2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
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Sorry, but she's talking crap. HTC offer a global warranty for all their own branded devices, but it doesn't cover shipping costs, and this even covers the ones sold on grey import by expansys.
So worst case scenario, you have to pay for the courier to Milton Keynes and back....not exactly the end of the world!
And as for Play.com, I have been using them for years, and bought all sorts of stuff from them. never had to pay import duties, even on an xbox 360, and only ever had one problem, which the remedied as soon as the item was back in stock. Play are actually one of the better and more trustworthy online retailers out there.....
And besides, if your address is registered in the UK, they charge you VAT anyway....they seem to be one of the ones under that customs scheme mentioned above somewhere.
Dammit.... was just on Play.com, credit card in hand and its gone up to £429! Ragin, I missed the offer!
Still cheaper than most places though!
DanGlee said:
Dammit.... was just on Play.com, credit card in hand and its gone up to £429! Ragin, I missed the offer!
Still cheaper than most places though!
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LOL they are cheapest because they offer free delivery...now when you got it after ordering is another thing altogether.
DanGlee, i just saw it for £410 on http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/16495.htm
There may still be cheaper, that's just the cheapest i've seen so far.
Too late...
I went and ordered it from HandTec (www.handtec.co.uk) because it uses Google Checkout, makes my life that little easier!
It cost £425. So not too bad, most places are all around that price...
I'll be on this site now for the next week after I get it going through the forum and configuring it... I hope since I ordered it so late its the latest ROM!
Look forward to plenty of "OMGs this phone is wrecking my head" and "OMG I love it" replies
(word of warning, I'm coming from a Motorolla KRZR to Diamond WM6.1... there will be a learning curve... but it can't possibly be any worse that the yoke I have now!)
DG.
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Sorry, but she's talking crap. HTC offer a global warranty for all their own branded devices, but it doesn't cover shipping costs, and this even covers the ones sold on grey import by expansys.
So worst case scenario, you have to pay for the courier to Milton Keynes and back....not exactly the end of the world!
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I agree with that, and the Diamond has 2 years cover from what I read.
With all this glob-trotting around it makes sense to offer worldwide cover.
DanGlee said:
Too late...
I went and ordered it from HandTec (www.handtec.co.uk) because it uses Google Checkout, makes my life that little easier!
It cost £425. So not too bad, most places are all around that price...
I'll be on this site now for the next week after I get it going through the forum and configuring it... I hope since I ordered it so late its the latest ROM!
Look forward to plenty of "OMGs this phone is wrecking my head" and "OMG I love it" replies
(word of warning, I'm coming from a Motorolla KRZR to Diamond WM6.1... there will be a learning curve... but it can't possibly be any worse that the yoke I have now!)
DG.
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Well if they are uk spec then it will have the latest rom on it but like yourself i was a noob coming from a nokia n95 8gb symbian phone but ive enjoyed learning about this phone.
Just make sure the first thing you do is APPLY THOSE TWEAKS in the tweak thread...it will make it a hell of alot more better. ITs a shame that you have to apply those tweaks to make this phone really shine..should come like that but it seems like HTC just wanted to get the phone out asap.
Feel free to ask any questions if you have any problems...its the only way your gonna learn but before i got my phone..i read through most of the threads here so when i got the Diamond...i had a bit of a head start.
BTW thats a damn good price you got yours for..i paid £445 for mine from clove.
Doe anyone know if HTC diamond sold by play.com is a UK version or a grey import?
Hi,
This is my first post here, but the site is great and I've been coming back here for about 2 weeks while trying to decide if I should buy a diamond and I have to say the people, reviews and discussions have certainly swayed my choice into getting one. It was touch and go (pardon the pun) for a while after some initial bad reviews, but since the ROM update it seems everybody is a lot happier! I know it will take a bit of tweaking, but I'm a S/W engineer, so its nothing I'm afraid of, but it will be my first WM device, so I'm a little scared...
I nearly opted for the iPhone, but its a brick, if not a pretty cool device, but I want something that I can put in my pocket and use as a normal phone... I have an iPod for music and videos, a phone is a phone (but the GPS rocks)
Anyway, I digress, I do have only 2 questions and the first one is pretty redundant from reading this forum, but here goes:
I saw a Touch Diamond for sale on eBay and the guy selling it said that he was selling it because he was disappointed because when he came to use the GPS it was a lie and that he needed an extra component and had to carry something else around? Whats all this about. I did freak a little when I read in all the spec sheets that it was GPS "READY"... what does READY mean? I assume it comes with it all from reading the reviews.
Second question, since my mind is pretty made up and I will be getting one, where is the best place to buy one (for the UK, and UK spec) I'm not looking for cheapness, as i know they are knew and average is around £450ish (inc VAT and Delivery) but dunno where to get one from (Not eBay anyway) any advice on the best online shop, or if anybody knows of any shops that sell them (in Manchester) that would be great.
Thanks for any help in advance!
DG
Plenty of places in the UK to buy them from, if you had done a search you would have found a thread that listed all the places in UK that are selling them and they are uk spec.
But for you ill name a few:
www.expansys.com now have the official uk spec Diamonds
www.clove.co.uk
www.play.com
www.totalpda.co.uk
www.powerupmobile.com
www.htcdirect.co.uk
those are your best bets...think Expansys is based in Manchester but dont know if they allow you to go there and pick up the phone...best to ring them i suppose.
I would recommend Play.com. Never had any problems with them and at the moment it's only £399.99 with free delivery. Others sell it for about £435 or £440.
Yeah, sorry, should have done a search, but battery was dying on the laptop and no plug in sight!
Anyway, thanks for the links guys. I did heard that expansys were selling non official versions and thats one reason I asked, I have used them before but for nothing really as expensive as this.
Thats really cheap for Play, I may used them since I have an account with them...somewhere!
Now I will have the agonising wait and ensuing dissapointment that when I wake up the postman hasn't brought it its going to be a LONG week!
vodafone gona sell it for £230 pay as you go locked on voda...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4104.html
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vodafone gona sell it for £230 pay as you go locked on voda...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4104.html
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Woah. If they don't have some super secret locking technology we've not seen until now, that could be a SERIOUSLY GOOD bargain....
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vodafone gona sell it for £230 pay as you go locked on voda...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4104.html
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The general consensus is that this is only if you're a business customer buying an additional handset for your account.
Surely if most places are selling it for £400+ Vodafone won't be giving them away with no contract?!
I saw the eBay one with the guy saying no GPS too - and got a bit worried about my pre order one. I actually emailed him and asked about it. He replied saying it was GPS Ready, but needed additional hardware. After a bit of research I emailed him back again saying I was sure it definately had it built in - within another day the auction had closed early!
Whether he'd done a quick sale, or realised his error - who knows?!
Play is the best price - unless you can get a bargain on eBay. Watch out for 'Next Day' sellers whos small print says a week+ unless you pay extra postage!
WARNING!!! if you buy from play.com in the UK, you'll have to pay VAT tax as the unit will probably be held up in customs.. reason being, Play.com ships from a tax free zone.
It's clearly stated in their terms & conditions that the customer is responsible for taxes. Read the fine print!!
2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
If it is a USA order
If you are in the US, then the best place to buy the phone is from Ryan at Negri Electronics. I had a problem with the first two phones (the first was a power issue, the second was wifi). I emailed them in the morning, and by the afternoon I had a UPS overnight tracking order. They included return labels, and it was no questions asked. I have bought all my luxry phones starting back at the Nokia 8800 and up til now (yes I have a addiction for cell phones). NEVER HAD A SINGLE ISSUE! The Diamond also registered on the HTC site. The phone is shrink wrapped in the retail package (he has a network, and actually travels to get the product on or before release that are not grey's). Price my be higher or lower but not by much. I trully think its worth it, because you don't have to wonder about what your are getting or when. They ship the next business day (I gotta give them credit on their speed and customer service. The answer emails right away, and phone calls are 99% answered, and messages are returned immediately.
Heres the direct link: DIAMOND- http://www.negrielectronics.com/touch-diamond-unlocked-p-1506.html
DIAMOND PRO: http://www.negrielectronics.com/htc-touch-pro-p-1530.html
Desktop CRADLE: http://www.negrielectronics.com/touch-diamond-desktop-cradle-g300-p-1526.html
Mine is perfect. They really have their business together.
PS: This is not an advertisement, this is my honest opinion. I have made purchase from expansys (paid for overnight, got it a week later).
Do we know when UK networks are gonna start selling these on contracts?
Im assuming all of them are branding this phone?
leaskovski said:
Do we know when UK networks are gonna start selling these on contracts?
Im assuming all of them are branding this phone?
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Tmobile will be doing them from end of the month from what i have heard..as for voda, orange and o2 they will be carrying it but dont really know when...possibly July??.
As for branding??..yep you can be 110% sure that they will be all branded to some extent. As usual Tmobile will make sure its locked to their network and probably Orange. Voda and o2 will probably sell it unlocked but with their branding on it.
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2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
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I bought mine from Devicewire - and when I registered it with HTC - it only says I have a one year warranty. I thought UK devices were supposed to have 2 years?
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DanGlee said:
Hi,
This is my first post here, but the site is great and I've been coming back here for about 2 weeks while trying to decide if I should buy a diamond and I have to say the people, reviews and discussions have certainly swayed my choice into getting one. It was touch and go (pardon the pun) for a while after some initial bad reviews, but since the ROM update it seems everybody is a lot happier! I know it will take a bit of tweaking, but I'm a S/W engineer, so its nothing I'm afraid of, but it will be my first WM device, so I'm a little scared...
I nearly opted for the iPhone, but its a brick, if not a pretty cool device, but I want something that I can put in my pocket and use as a normal phone... I have an iPod for music and videos, a phone is a phone (but the GPS rocks)
Anyway, I digress, I do have only 2 questions and the first one is pretty redundant from reading this forum, but here goes:
I saw a Touch Diamond for sale on eBay and the guy selling it said that he was selling it because he was disappointed because when he came to use the GPS it was a lie and that he needed an extra component and had to carry something else around? Whats all this about. I did freak a little when I read in all the spec sheets that it was GPS "READY"... what does READY mean? I assume it comes with it all from reading the reviews.
Second question, since my mind is pretty made up and I will be getting one, where is the best place to buy one (for the UK, and UK spec) I'm not looking for cheapness, as i know they are knew and average is around £450ish (inc VAT and Delivery) but dunno where to get one from (Not eBay anyway) any advice on the best online shop, or if anybody knows of any shops that sell them (in Manchester) that would be great.
Thanks for any help in advance!
DG
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It is GPS ready. Try http://www.networkingrus.com
p3eps said:
I bought mine from Devicewire - and when I registered it with HTC - it only says I have a one year warranty. I thought UK devices were supposed to have 2 years?
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Really??? hmm... call HTC and ask them I guess...
Mine shows up as 1 year as well... but with the following message:
Note: Your POP (Proof of Purchase) determines your warranty period. If you cannot provide your POP, your product will be warranted within the above period.
any ideas?? am I still entitled to 2 years warranty??
I myself am STILL looking a way to purchase the Nexus 5.
Being from Belgium, the only company that sells it over here is "Coolblue"
Now, i'm very disappointed on how LG has rolled out the Nexus 5. The nexus 4 was a huge success, and they were already struggling with providing everyone with a Nexus 4 at that time. You'd at least think they would learn something from that.
I already ordered myself a case, and a car holder since those were from Ebay & Spigen(UK) and would take a few weeks to deliver. Now i'm starting to think i might have the case and the car holder before i get the actual phone. Whats also a shame is that Belgium/Netherlands/??? Only have the ability to buy the 16GB version for a higher price than the 32GB version in other countries. Talking about "Country Discrimination". Some would say "Drive across the borders to get one". Well, the first reason i'm not doing it is because every store close to Belgian borders either don't have it, or have sold it out already. The other reason is the warranty is "Local". Meaning getting it in Germany would acquire me to send it to the German warranty if something happens to it.
I contacted these stores either by phone or by mail:
Sold out Saturn(NL)
Sold out Mediamarkt(NL)
Sold out Mediamarkt(DE)
Sold out coolblue (BE/NL)
Sold out Belsimpel(NL)
Sold out GSMwijzer(NL)
Sold out Kijkschop(NL)
Sold out Castle (NL)
Not Available Mediamarkt(BE)
Not Available Fnac(BE)
Not Available Mobistar centre(BE)
Not Available Saturn(BE)
Not Available Selection (BE)
I feel let down, and i thought i'd share it with XDA since i've been following stuff here for quite a while and always had help with problems i had on my androids.