Is it available anywhere in UK other than Expansys? TotalPDA says 'In Stock' but when you call them they say the 13th.
Want one NOW!!!
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Is it available anywhere in UK other than Expansys? TotalPDA says 'In Stock' but when you call them they say the 13th.
Want one NOW!!!
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yes from ebay.
walshieau said:
yes from ebay.
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Mmm no good to me, I need next day delivery...anyone know anywhere else? I'm going to have to pay Expansys otherwise and I HATE them!
firedup said:
Mmm no good to me, I need next day delivery...anyone know anywhere else? I'm going to have to pay Expansys otherwise and I HATE them!
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Well your only choice is Expansys then but beware you will get a non uk spec model which means you wont get any HTC UK warranty support. IF anything goes wrong with it, you will need to send it back to Expansys for them to sort out and the worst part about it??...you will only get 12mths warranty not the usual 18-24mth warranty that comes with UK spec models. Plus you will have to register the unit with HTC Asia to get any updates.
The worst thing is that Expansys are selling at a far higher price than other retailers. Personally if i was you, id wait the extra week or so...totalpda are saying they will have them next week and they are selling them for £410...a hell of alot more cheaper than Expansys.
But your choice though, i wouldnt touch Expansys with a barge pole now...
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Well your only choice is Expansys then but beware you will get a non uk spec model which means you wont get any HTC UK warranty support. IF anything goes wrong with it, you will need to send it back to Expansys for them to sort out and the worst part about it??...you will only get 12mths warranty not the usual 18-24mth warranty that comes with UK spec models. Plus you will have to register the unit with HTC Asia to get any updates.
The worst thing is that Expansys are selling at a far higher price than other retailers. Personally if i was you, id wait the extra week or so...totalpda are saying they will have them next week and they are selling them for £410...a hell of alot more cheaper than Expansys.
But your choice though, i wouldnt touch Expansys with a barge pole now...
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Yeah I think your right. I havent bought anything off them in years as they're always arrogant and overpriced. I'll wait until next week.
Cheers
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Yeah I think your right. I havent bought anything off them in years as they're always arrogant and overpriced. I'll wait until next week.
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I would say its the best thing you could do mate, im really after one myself although am not too sure if ill end up keeping it but id rather wait an extra week or so and get a proper UK spec model...that way i know ill have tech support by HTC UK and updates via them as well. But thats not to say that you wont get updates via HTC or warranty if you do buy a grey import...just means that you will have register the unit on the asian website rather than the uk one. Plus theres always the fear that seeing as you didnt buy it from a uk retailer, you might not end up getting it fixed/replaced should it go wrong etc. And just to point out, Expansys havent as of yet even confirmed what or how the warranty works with these grey imports.
Plus too many times inthe past ive paid a silly price to have the latest phone, only to find out that the price dropped in a matter of days.
Yeah fair comment - you sound as bad as me! I just want something to play with over the weekend!
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Yeah fair comment - you sound as bad as me! I just want something to play with over the weekend!
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LOL i know, i dont want to wait but id rather be safe in the knowledge that should my Diamond go belly up...ill have full HTC UK support and updates.
Oh well cant wait for next week to come though....ill be honest im really wanting the Sony Xperia X1 though but seeing as that wont be out for sometime...im going to have to settle for the Diamond.
Do what i did, look at the uk ebay sellers, see if one lives near by, ring them up or pm them and ask for one cash on delivery, i got one from manchester a few days ago (2hr round trip for me lol)
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Do what i did, look at the uk ebay sellers, see if one lives near by, ring them up or pm them and ask for one cash on delivery, i got one from manchester a few days ago (2hr round trip for me lol)
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Yeah tried that bit only HK sellers at the min - can't really justify that round trip! The only UK seller says No cash on collection.
I really don't see the problem with buying from Expansys.
So what if they're grey imports? No-one knows for sure the situaion with regard to warranty etc. And how many people have ever had to use the warranty anyway? The one thing that everyone seems to agree on is Expansys will handle repairs under warranty in the first year, and I can't see many people on here having the device for more than 12 months anyway!
Regarding software updates, I'm sure that anything HTC release will be available on here.
The only problem I can see is the price but I decided I wanted one now so I've stumped up the extra money to get it now.
Also, I would have money on TotalPDA et al having further delays, I think the DeviceWire date of 23rd June is more likely than next week, so I've bitten the bullet and gone down the Expansys route. And with Saturday delivery I should have it tomorrow
I don't think you'll regret it. I have mine and it's very, very nice. Make sure you do the cache size tweak in the tweaks post fairly soon after you get it. It makes all the difference, it's very fast now and the Touchflow is working 100% better. Can't see anything 'wrong' with the phone at all. Hope you enjoy it as much as I am!
Another Potential Source
I pre-ordered mine from Play.com if anyone's interested.
Cheapest price I found and should be special delivery (next day).
Stock date was originally 9th June but recently changed to 13th and holding there.
All the best.
i,ll giv u 10000% support. noce sound
mouseymousey said:
I really don't see the problem with buying from Expansys.
So what if they're grey imports? No-one knows for sure the situaion with regard to warranty etc. And how many people have ever had to use the warranty anyway? The one thing that everyone seems to agree on is Expansys will handle repairs under warranty in the first year, and I can't see many people on here having the device for more than 12 months anyway!
Regarding software updates, I'm sure that anything HTC release will be available on here.
The only problem I can see is the price but I decided I wanted one now so I've stumped up the extra money to get it now.
Also, I would have money on TotalPDA et al having further delays, I think the DeviceWire date of 23rd June is more likely than next week, so I've bitten the bullet and gone down the Expansys route. And with Saturday delivery I should have it tomorrow
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mouseymousey said:
I really don't see the problem with buying from Expansys.
So what if they're grey imports? No-one knows for sure the situaion with regard to warranty etc. And how many people have ever had to use the warranty anyway? The one thing that everyone seems to agree on is Expansys will handle repairs under warranty in the first year, and I can't see many people on here having the device for more than 12 months anyway!
Regarding software updates, I'm sure that anything HTC release will be available on here.
The only problem I can see is the price but I decided I wanted one now so I've stumped up the extra money to get it now.
Also, I would have money on TotalPDA et al having further delays, I think the DeviceWire date of 23rd June is more likely than next week, so I've bitten the bullet and gone down the Expansys route. And with Saturday delivery I should have it tomorrow
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I know you've bought it now so there's going to be no convincing you but i have to correct you anyway
The point is that you have NO idea what sort of waranty expansys are offering. It could be the case that they have to ship it back to asia to have it repaired adding alot of lead time for their processes on each end.
It could be that they don't cover some minor things that the original waranty would because they don't want to spend money couriering it to HK for something minor - you might say they can't do this because of the terms of the waranty slip or whatever, but there's alot to be said for intepretation of those terms!
The waranty is an added value service to the phone. Even if you never use it, and only keep the phone for 12 months, the resale value of your phone will be alot less in 12 months time vs someone who still has a 12 month UK waranty left.
Also because you don't know what the 'value' of a 12 month expansys waranty is, you could find in 2 months time news breaks online it aint worth ****, and sure you can legally fight for your rights, but your resale value on your phone will be impacted drasticly.
And for the risk of all this you're paying potentially 90 pounds more, to have it 1 or 2 weeks early. Hey thats your decision, but please don't be one of those people who tries to convince themselves it aint like it is. It is like it is, and if you go ahead, do it knowing that!
I'm not sure how that post was correcting me, it was just offering your opinion which of course you're entitled to.
I've had mobile phones for many many years, and lots of different HTC models and I've never had to claim on warranty yet.
I'm happy to pay the extra and take what I think is a very, very minimal risk. If I listened to doom mongers like you I'd never do anything.
Oh and regarding resale values in 12 months when it may or may not be out of warranty, just how much do you really think that will make a difference? Resale value of a 12 month old phone is going to be very low, with or without a year to run on warranty.
OK, it's arrived! Which means I've been able to read the warranty card. The card states 24 months for the phone and 12 months for accessories.
Well if i saw 10 phones on ebay, and 5 of them had 12 months left, i know which i would buy.
Correcting you in that you tried to make out waranty is worthless. Its not!
You may have had 1000 phones for all i care, eventually one will break. Thats just statistics.
With regards to 'If I listened to doom mongers like you I'd never do anything.' you completly missed the point. Its not about omg its all destined to end in misery. Its that there is a very real and sensible argument about waranty and support here. It is your choice weather to buy in spite of that - but instead of saying YOU dont care about the waranty you are implying no one should.
As for the waranty card there are conflicting reports, and this was my point - no one knows the truth right now:
- Some people are saying HTC have told them they categorically WILL NOT waranty the devices outside of their original intended sales region - and variations of essentially the same point.
- One person has said that HTC will not adhere to any terms on paperwork inside the box as it was not intended for this region.
- One person says he was told HTC WILL uphold the waranty.
- Expansys say these devices do have a waranty.
- Expansys refuse to publically confirm the length of the warnanty, but some people have pasted emails from expansys confirming a 12 month waranty.
- Expansys have said that the waranty of the device is through them, not direct with HTC.
- People have been unable to register on the UK site, and only the english HK site.
- If HTC say that these devices were sold in this region without their permission, expansys will be fined again.
Maybe none of that matters to you, but i'm sure it does to some people. The uncertainty at least.
EDIT: Anyway i think my point is made and i don't expect you to agree with it. I'd rather this didnt degenerate into an argument, so thats my last word on it. Respond with any last comments you have on the topic, and lets leave it there
Yep, fair enough, no point arguing about it. Incidentally, the warranty is not transferable if you sell the phone, without HTC's written permission. Such permission will not be reasonably withheld, it says in the warranty card.
Just wondering how many people get this written permission before selling their phones, not many I'll wager.
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Has anybody around here ever used www.superetrader.co.uk, 'cause that's who I'm thinking of placing my pre-order with...
Alternatively, has anyone got any recommendations for where to put my name down (in the UK, preferably).
They are active over at pocketGPSworld and seem legit, although given Expansys aren't claiming to have an in-stock date I'd be a little dubious about stock coming in Wednesday.
Do let us know what you do
Gordon
Thanks Gordon.
I don't really believe the availability date, they have other HTC phones with the same date given for availability so it's probably just a general day when they receive their HTC shipments or something.
The P4550 page looks a bit out of date - a couple of the specs (GPS chip, RAM) look like they're taken from old information, so I'm guessing the availability date is a little way out as well. I've been waiting since January though, so a bit longer wont hurt.
They've got quite a good score on DealTime but I'm never sure whether to trust those sorts of sites, I'm happier listening to forum opinions, so unless I see a load of negative opinion, I'll probably go with them later this week - but I think I'll use PayPal or Google Checkout for a little extra peace of mind.
Seems they have removed the phone now as cannot see it on there site.
Superiorgadgets is taking pre-orders
http://www.superiorgadgets.com/ca/product_info.php?products_id=224
Couple of suggestions
I've used these guys before:
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/PDA/HTC/HTC_P4550.html
and these guys have been around for ages!
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....Category=591602F7-C32B-44D8-859D-F9230F032E7E
Gordon
Expansys
I used expansys sometimes it is a great seller so i ask me why they don`t accept pre-order for the Kaiser... You can pre-order a iphone too wich nobody knows when it will be aviable in Europe....
Another one taking pre-orders
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/HTC-P4550
Another pre-order HERE
Wow $869 USD???
Is that really the price?
What if I waited and purchased it from Cingular? I'm wondering if the preorder price is so high because it's without carrier?
evolution_theory said:
Wow $869 USD???
Is that really the price?
What if I waited and purchased it from Cingular? I'm wondering if the preorder price is so high because it's without carrier?
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check link agian it costs now : $766.50
This product will be in stock on Thursday 20 September, 2007.?!?!? Well not so quickly
It was supposed to june in Asia, then delayed til Aug, now most probably will be Sep however will want HTC to iron out the details first before we get our hands on one, don't really wish to be a guniea pig tester
kaiserchief said:
Has anybody around here ever used www.superetrader.co.uk, 'cause that's who I'm thinking of placing my pre-order with...
Alternatively, has anyone got any recommendations for where to put my name down (in the UK, preferably).
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I used superetraders to get my ETEN M700, they were very helpful with the order (complicated with a cc registered in one country and delivery to another country). The device arrived within the time they said and the phone had had a pre-sales check - I never got any of the problems that seemd to plague others!
I can heartily recommend them!
Anyone know if Kaiser is going to be available in Australia if so when.
Well I placed my oredr with Superetrader and payment was taken straight out of my account because I (stupidly, it seems) used Google Checkout.
Google Checkout showed my P4550 as "Posted" but, as noted earlier in this thread, Superetrader then took the P4550 off their site.
A few e-mails later trying to figure out what was really going on, Superetrader have confirmed that the release date has slipped to "Hopefully late July or early August". Shame I had to pay for the thing way in advance, but I'm hopeless with money so at least I know it's paid for and will be on it's way asap.
Moral is avoid Google Checkout! I have no problem with Superetrader, but the whole process has been complicated by Google and their fledgling payment service, which clearly needs a bit of ironing out.
Kaiser on ebay
Guys,
Grab a Kaiser from ebay
Just found this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Kaiser-P4...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Guys,
Grab a Kaiser from ebay
Just found this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Kaiser-P4...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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$1350?!?!?! I hope that is packed full of gold and various high-quality jewels.
Pre-Release Phone Sold
deluxion said:
Guys,
Grab a Kaiser from ebay
Just found this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Kaiser-P4...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Sorry guys, phone is sold... to ME
Yer it is slightly expensive.. but I am going to salary sacrifice it.. trusty tax cut so overall it wont be that bad.
Can't wait till it gets here! Tho it will be a few days cos its coming to Aus..
- Syrius
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Anyone know if Kaiser is going to be available in Australia if so when.
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I have an email confirming that the delivery date is scheduled for the fisrt week of September.
www.calculatorking.com.au
I bought my O2 Mini from these guys so they are very reputable.
Ok, so first hello to everyone! First time posters but I've been trolling around for a little bit, trying to get research on different phones offered by HTC and how they operate on each network, etc. and how customizable they are. Basically, I've concluded that the Tilt(Kaiser) is the one for me, graphics driver issue or not.
My only concern is that ATT does not offer a warranty for it, so what happens if I drop it in water, etc. Not saying that this is going to happen, but I always like to cover my bases. Does HTC offer an extended warranty, or any kind of protection at all? I don't want to end up paying 300 bucks and after a year or so get screwed because it is not working or something. I'm not really made of money, I mean, I can afford the phone, but not really buying another one, especially because you can't really (as far as I know) get a new one at the same price you'd pay for one with a new 2 year contract.
Anyway, sorry for the side track, and also if this was already answered, I hadn't seen it in my searches.
there was another thread regarding insurance issue...maybe theres info there for u
I would recommend you to check out Square trade. I am a veteran phone seller ( not really a pro ) and I always recommend my buyers with square trade. Their price is reasonable and their service is pretty much hassle free.
Beside that , since there is no warranty anyway, get the refurbished phone. Refurbished phone is checked twice , so the chance of defected item is low. With 2 years contract you can gat a Tilt for 150 bucks, which is a great deal compare with 450-550.
When I spoke to ATT last week, they told me by early june ALL phones (minus iphone of course..) will be insurable including the tilt...but the tilt and similar phones will have a higher deductable ($125ish if i remember right)
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Beside that , since there is no warranty anyway, get the refurbished phone. .
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Warranty Exchanges
Wireless devices carry a one-year warranty from date of purchase. To make a warranty claim after the first 30 days from purchase, call 1-800-801-1101. Apple branded equipment is covered by Apple's one-year Limited Warranty; refer to apple.com for details
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=163250
HTC Touch Diamond
can this be true, i have mine on pre-order
probably and a 500 quid it can stay in stock !! Thats a shocking price
I have not ordered from there, but i have been told 9th June at least , thats is expensive but how they got them so quick before everyone else
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Brian
Well thay are a massive company now and i guess have a close working relationship with HTC . Or they are grey imports in which case you will pay way way over the odds with a warranty in china or bermuda or somewhere silly.
The problem is is they are notorious for selling all new releases above the recommended price . I personally wont use them anymore as i feel they rip people off . By next week when everyone has stock they will drop there price but still not competetively !
It is us the consumer that keeps them afloat and as long as we keep buying from them at over inflated prices then who is the fool . I would love everyone to boycott them because of this but that urge for a new device can be pretty hard o resist at times . They know this and like leaches bleed you .
I have posted several posts in their forums on their over pricing and every single one of them has been removed . I think that speaks for itself really.
Yeah, they do tend to price things ridiculously. The funny thing is I don't mind a small premium in exchange for knowing that they are the cutting-edge gadget provider, who will get us the coolest gadgets first, but the key word is 'small'.
I think when the N95 8GB came out they had it at around £600 for a week or so.
expansys appear to have some tie up with htc - if you go through www.htc.com and goto uk as country then accesory shop - you end up on a site hosted by expansys - so I think that they are probably not grey imports and I also think they are milking the cash cow for being able to get them early....
Malarcy
Yeah, Expansys do seem to have them in stock. Personally, I'd rather save near £100 by waiting for a few days.
Yep Expansys is a rip off, they charge stupidly high prices for their phones...well the new upcoming ones like the Diamond. When i bought my N95 8gb , they were selling it for around £600!!!...thankfully i got one off ebay for £350 brand new.
Im actually dreading seeing the price for the new SE Xperia X1...wouldnt be surprised if they sell that at well over £600.
lol EXPANSYS uped the price again . They are so obvious !!
I would never buy from them again. Loads of other retailers around that are a lot cheaper
They got stung trying to do grey HP imports years ago, as non EU items sold in UK are not allowed, I would be very very suprised if they are grey imports, as they are breaking the law and I suspect most people would be sending them back, we have very good consumer laws here in UK.
Hello,
I ordered my Diamond english EU on May 7 in expansys.pt and today I received confirmation that I sent the Diamond English UK, tomorrow already have it here in Portugal
Someone can tell me if there is any difference between the English version EU and UK English ?!!??
It's also in stock at On The Go Solutions: http://www.htcphonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_DIAMOND
...
rolandrat said:
They got stung trying to do grey HP imports years ago, as non EU items sold in UK are not allowed, I would be very very suprised if they are grey imports, as they are breaking the law and I suspect most people would be sending them back, we have very good consumer laws here in UK.
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Well have a look here , looks like where there is smoke there is fire http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4079.html
Another customer rip off from expansys if this is true and I guess HTC will be a bit annoyed as well
Can confirm they do have them in as i dont live far away from their. It is deffinatley black as one of the workershad it on the desk. As i went to pick up a headset i asked the guy if i could look at it. Deffinatley the real thing and it was black and he did say he had lots in stock.
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Can confirm they do have them in as i dont live far away from their. It is deffinatley black as one of the workershad it on the desk. As i went to pick up a headset i asked the guy if i could look at it. Deffinatley the real thing and it was black and he did say he had lots in stock.
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Grey Imports doesn't mean they are grey ;o) . I'm sure they are black. A grey import is a machine (Touch Diamond) that is for reasale in another country being sold in the wrong country.
EG Touch Diamonds ment for China being sold in the UK are classed as grey imports. Your warranty can only be delt with in China .. Hope this helps and thanks for making me smile.
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Well have a look here , looks like where there is smoke there is fire http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4079.html
Another customer rip off from expansys if this is true and I guess HTC will be a bit annoyed as well
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Already seen that before posting.
The website shows it as UK item, they would be selling counterfeit goods if they are not UK (or EU), which means trading standards would be very interested.
And like you said HTC will be livid.
Expansys says that the warranty is HTC's Worldwide warranty. Still the price is a little bit too much.
Someone on the expansys forums has posted saying they ARE imports. Oh dear! I would say punish expansys and everyone send them back under the various laws they have broken and/or the sale of goods act/distant selling laws.
Bit odd that all the defaults are to Hong Kong
Makes you wonder where they were sourced from ... Still, loving it .. only had it a couple of hours and everyone in the office wants a play!
that's because it is a Hong Kong device that is not covered by HTC's global warranty.
If it dies, you'd have to send it back to Hong Kong to get it fixed!
An EU English device would default to Seattle timezones etc. Not Hong Kong.
I have been waiting patiently to get one on a contract from O2 but I have not heard any news regarding the UK release and I'm beginning to lose patient + the price from Play.com is extremely attractive.
Perhaps I will wait until the iPhone 3G comes out in the hope that the price will come down further
It's £394.99 with this offer...
Tempted to go for it - but then I'm due for a renewal soon with T-Mobile.
Anyone know whether the upgrade from T-Mobile will be free or do they evaluate each case individually?
Just a friendly warning, my experience with Play.com is extremely bad... When they said they sent stuff out, they actually hadn't, delivery weeks later than agreed to, unfriendly/unknowledgable support, etc.
Then again, that might have been a fluke, instead of their general way of dealing with things. After that one time I never ordered from them again
I find Play.com pretty good for stock accuracy! It just ussually takes an extra day due to being in Jersey. I am still waiting on the batteries, but everytime it gets to the release date they change it!! very annoying, But ussually when it says in stock it is!! in my experience anyway!!
If i hadn't already got one! i'd defo be ordering from here!!
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Just a friendly warning, my experience with Play.com is extremely bad... When they said they sent stuff out, they actually hadn't, delivery weeks later than agreed to, unfriendly/unknowledgable support, etc.
Then again, that might have been a fluke, instead of their general way of dealing with things. After that one time I never ordered from them again
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I have been using Play.com for the last 8 years and never experience a single problem with them. All my orders were always delivered on time (witin 5 working days), I reckon your case must of been a one-off
You should give them a second chance
I've just replied in another thread regarding play.com
Since they are based in Jersey (a tax free zone) the customers are liable for paying all VAT taxes if the phone gets held up at customs. This is clearly stated in their Terms & Conditions.
2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
be careful guys.
well i got a gray import from HK and he gives a 12 month guarantee lol my HTC guarantee is worth nothing anyway after i flashed it, so i will that the £60 i saved (it was about 340 GBP) a spend it if anything does go wrong...
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I've just replied in another thread regarding play.com
Since they are based in Jersey (a tax free zone) the customers are liable for paying all VAT taxes if the phone gets held up at customs. This is clearly stated in their Terms & Conditions.
2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
be careful guys.
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From HM Revenue & Customs website:
Goods purchased from traders in Jersey and Guernsey
Customs has in place with the Jersey and Guernsey Customs and Postal authorities a special scheme that allows many of their traders to collect and pay to UK Customs import VAT on sales they make to UK customers. These traders, who are approved by the Jersey and Guernsey authorities, are allocated a unique authorisation number and this should be stated on the outside of your package. Under these arrangements you will be asked to pay import VAT, if applicable, at the time you make your purchase, and will not have to pay any additional costs such as import VAT, or the Royal Mail handling fee, when you receive your goods.
Unless I misread it, I believe you don't need to pay any import VAT on it.
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2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
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Sorry, but she's talking crap. HTC offer a global warranty for all their own branded devices, but it doesn't cover shipping costs, and this even covers the ones sold on grey import by expansys.
So worst case scenario, you have to pay for the courier to Milton Keynes and back....not exactly the end of the world!
And as for Play.com, I have been using them for years, and bought all sorts of stuff from them. never had to pay import duties, even on an xbox 360, and only ever had one problem, which the remedied as soon as the item was back in stock. Play are actually one of the better and more trustworthy online retailers out there.....
And besides, if your address is registered in the UK, they charge you VAT anyway....they seem to be one of the ones under that customs scheme mentioned above somewhere.
Dammit.... was just on Play.com, credit card in hand and its gone up to £429! Ragin, I missed the offer!
Still cheaper than most places though!
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Dammit.... was just on Play.com, credit card in hand and its gone up to £429! Ragin, I missed the offer!
Still cheaper than most places though!
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LOL they are cheapest because they offer free delivery...now when you got it after ordering is another thing altogether.
DanGlee, i just saw it for £410 on http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/16495.htm
There may still be cheaper, that's just the cheapest i've seen so far.
Too late...
I went and ordered it from HandTec (www.handtec.co.uk) because it uses Google Checkout, makes my life that little easier!
It cost £425. So not too bad, most places are all around that price...
I'll be on this site now for the next week after I get it going through the forum and configuring it... I hope since I ordered it so late its the latest ROM!
Look forward to plenty of "OMGs this phone is wrecking my head" and "OMG I love it" replies
(word of warning, I'm coming from a Motorolla KRZR to Diamond WM6.1... there will be a learning curve... but it can't possibly be any worse that the yoke I have now!)
DG.
rhedgehog said:
Sorry, but she's talking crap. HTC offer a global warranty for all their own branded devices, but it doesn't cover shipping costs, and this even covers the ones sold on grey import by expansys.
So worst case scenario, you have to pay for the courier to Milton Keynes and back....not exactly the end of the world!
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I agree with that, and the Diamond has 2 years cover from what I read.
With all this glob-trotting around it makes sense to offer worldwide cover.
DanGlee said:
Too late...
I went and ordered it from HandTec (www.handtec.co.uk) because it uses Google Checkout, makes my life that little easier!
It cost £425. So not too bad, most places are all around that price...
I'll be on this site now for the next week after I get it going through the forum and configuring it... I hope since I ordered it so late its the latest ROM!
Look forward to plenty of "OMGs this phone is wrecking my head" and "OMG I love it" replies
(word of warning, I'm coming from a Motorolla KRZR to Diamond WM6.1... there will be a learning curve... but it can't possibly be any worse that the yoke I have now!)
DG.
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Well if they are uk spec then it will have the latest rom on it but like yourself i was a noob coming from a nokia n95 8gb symbian phone but ive enjoyed learning about this phone.
Just make sure the first thing you do is APPLY THOSE TWEAKS in the tweak thread...it will make it a hell of alot more better. ITs a shame that you have to apply those tweaks to make this phone really shine..should come like that but it seems like HTC just wanted to get the phone out asap.
Feel free to ask any questions if you have any problems...its the only way your gonna learn but before i got my phone..i read through most of the threads here so when i got the Diamond...i had a bit of a head start.
BTW thats a damn good price you got yours for..i paid £445 for mine from clove.
Doe anyone know if HTC diamond sold by play.com is a UK version or a grey import?
Hi,
This is my first post here, but the site is great and I've been coming back here for about 2 weeks while trying to decide if I should buy a diamond and I have to say the people, reviews and discussions have certainly swayed my choice into getting one. It was touch and go (pardon the pun) for a while after some initial bad reviews, but since the ROM update it seems everybody is a lot happier! I know it will take a bit of tweaking, but I'm a S/W engineer, so its nothing I'm afraid of, but it will be my first WM device, so I'm a little scared...
I nearly opted for the iPhone, but its a brick, if not a pretty cool device, but I want something that I can put in my pocket and use as a normal phone... I have an iPod for music and videos, a phone is a phone (but the GPS rocks)
Anyway, I digress, I do have only 2 questions and the first one is pretty redundant from reading this forum, but here goes:
I saw a Touch Diamond for sale on eBay and the guy selling it said that he was selling it because he was disappointed because when he came to use the GPS it was a lie and that he needed an extra component and had to carry something else around? Whats all this about. I did freak a little when I read in all the spec sheets that it was GPS "READY"... what does READY mean? I assume it comes with it all from reading the reviews.
Second question, since my mind is pretty made up and I will be getting one, where is the best place to buy one (for the UK, and UK spec) I'm not looking for cheapness, as i know they are knew and average is around £450ish (inc VAT and Delivery) but dunno where to get one from (Not eBay anyway) any advice on the best online shop, or if anybody knows of any shops that sell them (in Manchester) that would be great.
Thanks for any help in advance!
DG
Plenty of places in the UK to buy them from, if you had done a search you would have found a thread that listed all the places in UK that are selling them and they are uk spec.
But for you ill name a few:
www.expansys.com now have the official uk spec Diamonds
www.clove.co.uk
www.play.com
www.totalpda.co.uk
www.powerupmobile.com
www.htcdirect.co.uk
those are your best bets...think Expansys is based in Manchester but dont know if they allow you to go there and pick up the phone...best to ring them i suppose.
I would recommend Play.com. Never had any problems with them and at the moment it's only £399.99 with free delivery. Others sell it for about £435 or £440.
Yeah, sorry, should have done a search, but battery was dying on the laptop and no plug in sight!
Anyway, thanks for the links guys. I did heard that expansys were selling non official versions and thats one reason I asked, I have used them before but for nothing really as expensive as this.
Thats really cheap for Play, I may used them since I have an account with them...somewhere!
Now I will have the agonising wait and ensuing dissapointment that when I wake up the postman hasn't brought it its going to be a LONG week!
vodafone gona sell it for £230 pay as you go locked on voda...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4104.html
harrysaab said:
vodafone gona sell it for £230 pay as you go locked on voda...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4104.html
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Woah. If they don't have some super secret locking technology we've not seen until now, that could be a SERIOUSLY GOOD bargain....
harrysaab said:
vodafone gona sell it for £230 pay as you go locked on voda...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4104.html
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The general consensus is that this is only if you're a business customer buying an additional handset for your account.
Surely if most places are selling it for £400+ Vodafone won't be giving them away with no contract?!
I saw the eBay one with the guy saying no GPS too - and got a bit worried about my pre order one. I actually emailed him and asked about it. He replied saying it was GPS Ready, but needed additional hardware. After a bit of research I emailed him back again saying I was sure it definately had it built in - within another day the auction had closed early!
Whether he'd done a quick sale, or realised his error - who knows?!
Play is the best price - unless you can get a bargain on eBay. Watch out for 'Next Day' sellers whos small print says a week+ unless you pay extra postage!
WARNING!!! if you buy from play.com in the UK, you'll have to pay VAT tax as the unit will probably be held up in customs.. reason being, Play.com ships from a tax free zone.
It's clearly stated in their terms & conditions that the customer is responsible for taxes. Read the fine print!!
2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
If it is a USA order
If you are in the US, then the best place to buy the phone is from Ryan at Negri Electronics. I had a problem with the first two phones (the first was a power issue, the second was wifi). I emailed them in the morning, and by the afternoon I had a UPS overnight tracking order. They included return labels, and it was no questions asked. I have bought all my luxry phones starting back at the Nokia 8800 and up til now (yes I have a addiction for cell phones). NEVER HAD A SINGLE ISSUE! The Diamond also registered on the HTC site. The phone is shrink wrapped in the retail package (he has a network, and actually travels to get the product on or before release that are not grey's). Price my be higher or lower but not by much. I trully think its worth it, because you don't have to wonder about what your are getting or when. They ship the next business day (I gotta give them credit on their speed and customer service. The answer emails right away, and phone calls are 99% answered, and messages are returned immediately.
Heres the direct link: DIAMOND- http://www.negrielectronics.com/touch-diamond-unlocked-p-1506.html
DIAMOND PRO: http://www.negrielectronics.com/htc-touch-pro-p-1530.html
Desktop CRADLE: http://www.negrielectronics.com/touch-diamond-desktop-cradle-g300-p-1526.html
Mine is perfect. They really have their business together.
PS: This is not an advertisement, this is my honest opinion. I have made purchase from expansys (paid for overnight, got it a week later).
Do we know when UK networks are gonna start selling these on contracts?
Im assuming all of them are branding this phone?
leaskovski said:
Do we know when UK networks are gonna start selling these on contracts?
Im assuming all of them are branding this phone?
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Tmobile will be doing them from end of the month from what i have heard..as for voda, orange and o2 they will be carrying it but dont really know when...possibly July??.
As for branding??..yep you can be 110% sure that they will be all branded to some extent. As usual Tmobile will make sure its locked to their network and probably Orange. Voda and o2 will probably sell it unlocked but with their branding on it.
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2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
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I bought mine from Devicewire - and when I registered it with HTC - it only says I have a one year warranty. I thought UK devices were supposed to have 2 years?
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DanGlee said:
Hi,
This is my first post here, but the site is great and I've been coming back here for about 2 weeks while trying to decide if I should buy a diamond and I have to say the people, reviews and discussions have certainly swayed my choice into getting one. It was touch and go (pardon the pun) for a while after some initial bad reviews, but since the ROM update it seems everybody is a lot happier! I know it will take a bit of tweaking, but I'm a S/W engineer, so its nothing I'm afraid of, but it will be my first WM device, so I'm a little scared...
I nearly opted for the iPhone, but its a brick, if not a pretty cool device, but I want something that I can put in my pocket and use as a normal phone... I have an iPod for music and videos, a phone is a phone (but the GPS rocks)
Anyway, I digress, I do have only 2 questions and the first one is pretty redundant from reading this forum, but here goes:
I saw a Touch Diamond for sale on eBay and the guy selling it said that he was selling it because he was disappointed because when he came to use the GPS it was a lie and that he needed an extra component and had to carry something else around? Whats all this about. I did freak a little when I read in all the spec sheets that it was GPS "READY"... what does READY mean? I assume it comes with it all from reading the reviews.
Second question, since my mind is pretty made up and I will be getting one, where is the best place to buy one (for the UK, and UK spec) I'm not looking for cheapness, as i know they are knew and average is around £450ish (inc VAT and Delivery) but dunno where to get one from (Not eBay anyway) any advice on the best online shop, or if anybody knows of any shops that sell them (in Manchester) that would be great.
Thanks for any help in advance!
DG
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It is GPS ready. Try http://www.networkingrus.com
p3eps said:
I bought mine from Devicewire - and when I registered it with HTC - it only says I have a one year warranty. I thought UK devices were supposed to have 2 years?
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Really??? hmm... call HTC and ask them I guess...
Mine shows up as 1 year as well... but with the following message:
Note: Your POP (Proof of Purchase) determines your warranty period. If you cannot provide your POP, your product will be warranted within the above period.
any ideas?? am I still entitled to 2 years warranty??