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Okay people....I got a question, I was looking on eBay for a Dual Sim adaptor, but got crazy to see what is available, are there people here that have experience with Dual Sim Adaptors?
Few things that are important for me:
- I dont mind cutting my Sim Card(s)
- I dont want a "bulb" under the batterycase, so the cutting sim Dual adaptors seem to fit my needs!
- I like the Auto TSK Menu
- I hear stories about Dual Sim Adaptors that dont use the Radio ON/OFF function to swtich Sim Cards....I LIKE THIS!
I also would like to use a Today Plugin to switch sims, or at least see the Active Sim Card, I tested Wivit Sim Status Switcher but it works buggy on WM5 (and WM6), this is because it is actually for WM2003 I think...
Who can give me some feedback here on Dual Sim Adaptors that are used with success on the Wizard and even maybe pass me some screenshots off the menu used to switch the sim cards?
And yeah....offcourse I searched and read the topics here on XDA Dev, but cannot come to a good conclusion of which Adaptor I should buy!
Here are some links of adaptors that will fit my needs (I think....) The first link seems to be the best buy (and cheapest option).
http://cgi.ebay.nl/Ghost-Dual-Twin-...ryZ48501QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
http://cgi.ebay.nl/Dual-Twin-Dual-S...ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
http://cgi.ebay.nl/Dual-Sim-10th-Ge...sPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
http://www.simore.ch/en/two_sim_cards_in_one_mobile/dual_sim_card_black_1.php
Thanks guys!
Molski
Hi Molski,
I have been using a dual sim adapter for over a year now and I never had any problems. I bought a 9th generation adapter from some chinese manufacturar through ebay and had to cut my SIMS. Cutting is b.t.w. the only way to use two SIMS without "bulbing" the batterycase.
I also bought a 12th generation adapter, and often the second time I switched the STK would hang, resulting in having to softreset.
I have no knowledge with switching without turning off and back on the radio, imho it wouldn't be possible, your phone *needs* to reregister and takein information from the new provider.
I switch using a script (mortscript) by hand and automatic when starting programs like TomTom.
Forwarding from one SIM to the other *only* when unavailable make both your cellphone number reachable at al times.
Screenshots of the menu's is kinda useless; the menus are dictated by the SIM adapter, so every brand will have its own specific menu. Mine (and most from what I have seen) simply offer three options; switch to SIM1, to SIM 2 and edit the 'names' of the two SIMS.
Cheers,
Cacti
b.t.w. Sim cutter kopen voor weinig?
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b.t.w. Sim cutter kopen voor weinig?
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Die heb ik al....die het bij mij schaar
Of ik gebruik zo´n scherp chirurgenscalpel, daarmee kom je overal doorheen.
Thanks voor je info!
Molski
i suggest to use the analog one (switching by turning off/on radio) as they consume less power and its as fast to switch as with the menu of the digital ones (actually faster - just one key press - if u use a today plugin as SIMName - works on WM6, I am using it - also shows the active card, you can set a name for every SIM, so it even shows the correct name and not just the provider if u use two cards of the same provider! )...
i am using dual sim with cutted cards and.. im quite happy but battery drains a lot faster (about 40%!) so when i need long time battery use i am using adaptor for cutted sim. to change cards i'm using batterystatus (when i tap on providers name its run stk service) and its work fine.
but now im thinking about some less battery draining idea...
sorry for my english
slimag said:
i am using dual sim with cutted cards and.. im quite happy but battery drains a lot faster (about 40%!) so when i need long time battery use i am using adaptor for cutted sim. to change cards i'm using batterystatus (when i tap on providers name its run stk service) and its work fine.
but now im thinking about some less battery draining idea...
sorry for my english
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cool....I use BatteryStatus everyday, so this wil be perfect to enter the STK menu...hopefully tha developer can also built a change sim option in the plugin ;-)
DoctorT said:
i suggest to use the analog one (switching by turning off/on radio) as they consume less power and its as fast to switch as with the menu of the digital ones (actually faster - just one key press - if u use a today plugin as SIMName - works on WM6, I am using it - also shows the active card, you can set a name for every SIM, so it even shows the correct name and not just the provider if u use two cards of the same provider! )...
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SIMName looks like a very cool tool....gonna check it right now, although I still use only 1 sim card
molski said:
SIMName looks like a very cool tool....gonna check it right now, although I still use only 1 sim card
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the only issue i have is that is sometimes doesn't show anything on the today screen - waiting for a few seconds or switching to landscape and back solves it (it's not made for WM6, not even WM5 but anyways works well enough for me)...
BTW, i think it is just available in german, but as there is not much to configure u won't have any problems...
maybey it's a stupid question but is it possible to run 2 sim's at the same time? cause I have a ''work sim'' and a ''private sim'' and I do not want to miss call's on both sim's and I also don't like carrying around 2 phones ...
so is it possible??
thnx...
le_cactus said:
Hi Molski,
I have been using a dual sim adapter for over a year now and I never had any problems. I bought a 9th generation adapter from some chinese manufacturar through ebay and had to cut my SIMS. Cutting is b.t.w. the only way to use two SIMS without "bulbing" the batterycase.
I also bought a 12th generation adapter, and often the second time I switched the STK would hang, resulting in having to softreset.
I have no knowledge with switching without turning off and back on the radio, imho it wouldn't be possible, your phone *needs* to reregister and takein information from the new provider.
I switch using a script (mortscript) by hand and automatic when starting programs like TomTom.
Forwarding from one SIM to the other *only* when unavailable make both your cellphone number reachable at al times.
Screenshots of the menu's is kinda useless; the menus are dictated by the SIM adapter, so every brand will have its own specific menu. Mine (and most from what I have seen) simply offer three options; switch to SIM1, to SIM 2 and edit the 'names' of the two SIMS.
Cheers,
Cacti
b.t.w. Sim cutter kopen voor weinig?
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Hi le_cactus,
Could you post the script you're using? How do you switch automatic?
cheers,
Herlek
I have a work SIM and a private SIM and really do not want to carry two phones around. In my previous two models of regular (not-smart) phones I used one of those dualsim cards where you cut our the center of each sim and slip them into a new sim card with some extra electronics on it. You can then switch between the sims with a couple of key presses or even at automatic time intervals. eg. http://duosim.com/
OK, so I have two different makes of this type of dual-sim card and tried each one in the 750. The switching program shows up in the phones menu and it looks like it is going to work but it does not. When you try to switch to the second sim, the phone switches off and back on, but the the phone is still using the first sim.
I really want to find a way to get this to work. I have ordered one of those multi-sim card cloners (same link as above), in the hope that will work differently.
Has anyone found a solution to this ? Either a particular make of dual-sim or multi-sim cloner that works or maybe a tweak to get past the above mentioned problem ?
gajsler said:
I have a work SIM and a private SIM and really do not want to carry two phones around. In my previous two models of regular (not-smart) phones I used one of those dualsim cards where you cut our the center of each sim and slip them into a new sim card with some extra electronics on it. You can then switch between the sims with a couple of key presses or even at automatic time intervals. eg. http://duosim.com/
OK, so I have two different makes of this type of dual-sim card and tried each one in the 750. The switching program shows up in the phones menu and it looks like it is going to work but it does not. When you try to switch to the second sim, the phone switches off and back on, but the the phone is still using the first sim.
I really want to find a way to get this to work. I have ordered one of those multi-sim card cloners (same link as above), in the hope that will work differently.
Has anyone found a solution to this ? Either a particular make of dual-sim or multi-sim cloner that works or maybe a tweak to get past the above mentioned problem ?
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Hi gajsler,
I found myself being in the same situation: Want to use both office and private Sims with my Treo.
After some research I can say that it depends mostly on the combination of SIMs you are using. If you are using any UMTS/3G SIMs then a digital DualSim-application wouldn't do trick, especially if you are using a H3G-SIM (Hutchison 3G).
You will need an analog DualSim-holder for these SIMs.
I've got one from HongKong (Ghost SIM, no cutting) but it doesn't work correctly. Only the first SIM card is being used ... don't know how to get past this issue.
Seems to be tricky. Will post any additional experiences.
Greetz,
TreMax
gajsler said:
I have a work SIM and a private SIM and really do not want to carry two phones around. In my previous two models of regular (not-smart) phones I used one of those dualsim cards where you cut our the center of each sim and slip them into a new sim card with some extra electronics on it. You can then switch between the sims with a couple of key presses or even at automatic time intervals. eg. http://duosim.com/
OK, so I have two different makes of this type of dual-sim card and tried each one in the 750. The switching program shows up in the phones menu and it looks like it is going to work but it does not. When you try to switch to the second sim, the phone switches off and back on, but the the phone is still using the first sim.
I really want to find a way to get this to work. I have ordered one of those multi-sim card cloners (same link as above), in the hope that will work differently.
Has anyone found a solution to this ? Either a particular make of dual-sim or multi-sim cloner that works or maybe a tweak to get past the above mentioned problem ?
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I'm using Simore Gold 2 and it works perpect.
Does anyone know if there is a way to use two sim cards at the same time in the Kaiser ? I know that an adapter exist but I don't know if it would fit in the Kaiser ...
Thanks !
If you know more. Please share it with us.
Have you actually seen the sim card holder on a kaiser? its small and only room for one sim (even if you have ribbon cable from it to a 2 sim splitter) the lock mechanism stops any cable coming out so it would have to double back on the sim and come out the side and the side of the sim cover would need shaving to allow that and then on the back the form is moulded for the clearance of the keyboard so even if you stuck it to the back of the screen you will end up snagging it when opening and closing the keyboard.
if someone makes one that works then I will gladly take back what i said above however don't hold your breath.
Russ
I had a ghost Dual SIM adapter for my O2 XDA Exec & needed to cut each SIM down and place in a special Dual SIM holder which was the size of a single SIM. It worked fine, but I haven't had the nerve to cut up another couple of SIMs now that I've got a new T-Mobile VARIO III
weasel said:
I had a ghost Dual SIM adapter for my O2 XDA Exec & needed to cut each SIM down and place in a special Dual SIM holder which was the size of a single SIM. It worked fine, but I haven't had the nerve to cut up another couple of SIMs now that I've got a new T-Mobile VARIO III
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Did that really work? The Kaiser just doesn't support dual SIM(IMHO).
Do you have to switch, or can you be called on 2 SIM's at the same time?
And how do you define the SIM to make the outgoing call?
I'm interested!
Yes, the ghost Dual SIM adapter seems interesting ...
Dual sims
I use them for thre last two years and stopped as they are a battery drain on the phones.
-No you cannot use them at the same time, you need to flick one on and off.
-Handy but not worth battery drain
Network operators may create a service where two numbers (from the same operator) are active on one sim. Perhaps this is not the ideal solution but workable. I believe that TIM and/or Vodafone in Italy (although I'm not from there) provide such a service.
leon100 said:
Network operators may create a service where two numbers (from the same operator) are active on one sim. Perhaps this is not the ideal solution but workable. I believe that TIM and/or Vodafone in Italy (although I'm not from there) provide such a service.
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Orange in the UK provide this service. By pressing the # it switches froms one line to the other to make calls. Calls/SMS can be received on either line regardless of which line is selected for outgoing calls
I have a analogue dual-sim-adapter from http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de working in my Kaiser.
It's working fine with one problem: The operator names are not shown right. The problem was also known with the Artemis, but solvable by a registry change. This change is not working on the Kaiser, because the needed registry key is not present.
Does anyone have a solvation for that?
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I have a analogue dual-sim-adapter from http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de working in my Kaiser.
It's working fine with one problem: The operator names are not shown right. The problem was also known with the Artemis, but solvable by a registry change. This change is not working on the Kaiser, because the needed registry key is not present.
Does anyone have a solvation for that?
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I have the same problem, also using an ana
log daptor. The today plug cab in also does not work in order to change the network, was working fine on the Trinity.
pff , i dont like to cut in my sim cards...
They are from my work.. Is there no other solution?
dual sim card PDA phone
how about this for a change?
http://www.myphone.com.ph/
I'm just waiting for HTC to make a handset like the Kaiser with dual sim slots, its a complete pain when I'm in work carrying a work one. Might be worth suggesting it to them, don't know how much they keep an eye on these sort of forums.
BiasX said:
I have a analogue dual-sim-adapter from http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de working in my Kaiser.
It's working fine with one problem: The operator names are not shown right. The problem was also known with the Artemis, but solvable by a registry change. This change is not working on the Kaiser, because the needed registry key is not present.
Does anyone have a solvation for that?
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The todayplugin.cab doesnt work for me. How do you switch the network?
any updates on this?
how to stitch sims
yeah, I have an o2 flame, and I'm wondering how you choose which sim you want to make an outgoing call on? And can a incoming call come to either of the sims or do you have to switch something?
I recall seeing special tools out there allowing you to copy several sim cards onto one single one. Then when you turn on the phone, you can chose which "virtual" card gets powered up. Check it out on ebay.
do you have a name? for this tool/app ?
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i found something : http://www.duosim.com/supersim.html
will that work?
Look up SIMORE on the web. The adapters have not been fully tested for Kaiser yet (P4550) but as it works on most other HTC units it should be available soon. Also gives many other functions.
This is another snip ya sim system but comes with two adapters to turn them back to full size when needed.
Hope this helps.
hi guys,
i got TYTN II brand new whenever simcard inserted, phone start up then switch off itself.
without simcard start up ok, go all the way to the main screen.
is this to do with the Radio rom?? i flash with the original rom still no luck.
have anyone here experience this
thanks
Sounds like the SIM card isn't inserted well or the contacts are dirty (or could be the SIM card). Try cleaning the contacts on the SIM and device first and make sure the door is securely shut.
I think you have this confused. When you switch it up it turns off the phone so you can turn it on and the phone recognized the sim, if it would stay on when you put the sim, it wouldn't recognize the sim, so put it in then keep it in and turn it on and it should have recognized the sim. If you know that already, then do what Jwy said, I recommend rubbing alcohol and 100% cotton.
my device is working ok, but everytime i just unlock the sim card slot (without touching the card itself, my device shuts down, no matter which rom or radio rom.
It's no problem for me because i've just got one single sim card, but if i would have two different sim's....
Is this the standard behaviour ? I think it's strange, just curious about that...
that is normal , there is a little switch behind it that turns your device off .
some kind of protection.
Right, most phones have the sim under the battery so you must pull the battery to insert the sim. The Kaiser cuts the power with a switch on the sim door to protect the sim from a "hot" insertion and possible damage when changing sims.
JwY said:
Sounds like the SIM card isn't inserted well or the contacts are dirty (or could be the SIM card). Try cleaning the contacts on the SIM and device first and make sure the door is securely shut.
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well simcard is 100% working, nothing to do with the simcard dirty or damage.
Another TYTN II i have is working fine with this simcard.
~~Tito~~ said:
I think you have this confused. When you switch it up it turns off the phone so you can turn it on and the phone recognized the sim, if it would stay on when you put the sim, it wouldn't recognize the sim, so put it in then keep it in and turn it on and it should have recognized the sim. If you know that already, then do what Jwy said, I recommend rubbing alcohol and 100% cotton.
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No man, no confusion here, i know how its works
you didn't read my msg propely,
" switch off when simcard in the phone" if i take to simcard out, the phone boot up fine, ok
i switch it off then put simcard in (clip the simcard's door) then turn the phone on, just say HTC logo then switch itself off
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i mention that i got 2 TYTNII ok.
i swap the motherboard between eachother, still the same.
so i think either RADIO ROM or HARDWARE !!
so i want opinion here, whether its the HARDWARE OR SOFTWARE???
thanks
Ah, ok. You don't have to get mad . It could be software. I have seen this happen to people. Try a different rom & radio.
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Ah, ok. You don't have to get mad . It could be software. I have seen this happen to people. Try a different rom & radio.
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thanks,
do you have a good rom and radio that i can download??
i already flash original ROM in, still the same
thanks
anyone?? please
thanks
Hi,
Tried using the search function here but nothing came up in the X1 forums. I have been thinking about getting the X1 but given my normal needs, I need access to two numbers during the day.
Is anyone already using a dual sim adapter (cut or uncut version) or knows of a reliable one for the X1?
Thank
Hi
I just ordered one the other day. When I get it i'll report if its any good or not!
Nigel
veletron said:
Hi
I just ordered one the other day. When I get it i'll report if its any good or not!
Nigel
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How do you plug it?
You must remove the battery cover.
Hi
I think its the usual "saw up your sim cards" job, then fit the important bits into a holder thats the same size as a normal sim, then stick this in the sim slot.
For the most part switching between sims involves powering off/on the phone. I did have one in the distant past that would swap sims when you set it to flight mode then back out again.
We shall see, it was only £6 quid iirc.
Nigel
veletron said:
Hi
I think its the usual "saw up your sim cards" job, then fit the important bits into a holder thats the same size as a normal sim, then stick this in the sim slot.
For the most part switching between sims involves powering off/on the phone. I did have one in the distant past that would swap sims when you set it to flight mode then back out again.
We shall see, it was only £6 quid iirc.
Nigel
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The dual sims also have phone numbers to switch sim.
Ps. could you share link. I also wanna buy a good one.
please tell us of the HSDPA works with the dial sim card thing because most of the time only 3G is supported
Any news?????
So what happened?
Anyone know if there are adaptors which will always use one SIM card unless told otherwise (rather than switch when power-off)? Ta.
i guess no updates on this but i did see this:
http://www.simore.ch/video.php?docid=961068269296981089
Do dual sims work in the X1?
I'm using the dualsim adapter of simore in my xperia
switching from sim1 (vodafone) to sim2 (simyo/eplus) works realy fine - it durate max 15 seconds
but switching back to sim1 making sometimes trouble...so that i has to softreset the phone
i dont know if that is a global problem with the xperia and the simore adapter or if somethin is damaged in the simcards/adapter?!
additional i have to change the sms service number after changing the simcards...
has someone problems with that too? or a better solution?
sorry for bad english O
Simore
Yeh, Simore are meant to be the best, I was looking to get one also but for the good Simore one you are looking at paying 70euros which is far too much.
Unfortunately, the design of the Xperia means it is only possible to use Sim Adapters that chop the sim card to pieces and fit them in the size of 1 sim.
Edit: http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/Sony-Ericsson/Xperia-X1.html
Curious to know if that works on Kaiser. They are charging exorbitantly high. wish to know if there are any other reliable agencies offering same service. Cheers.
I ordered few different models from eBay but either of them didint work. If someone succeeds on this please report.
I had an older dual-SIM adaptor that I've been using for the last couple of years. I tried it in the X1 and it worked okay (flight mode to switch). The problem was that it didn't support any 3G at all, so in a 3G area it was constantly attempting to get a 3G lock, dropping the signal, then trying to get a lock again. In the end I had to disable HSDPA.
Then I got a new SIM from O2. I just put the SIM in directly without the adaptor. BLAM! Better signal and HSDPA access. So I've been on the lookout for another adaptor that still allows for switching but supports HSDPA. I keep ending up at simore.ch as well and wonder if their "Black 1" is up to the task. I don't want to pay out €40 just to see if it works though... I need to hear from someone else who has bought one and used it for HSDPA access.
So the question is who will bell the cat. None of us are eager to try it out. So would like someone with his experience to come over here & let others know if it was a success or not. I am interested in kaiser utility.Cheers
i have to disable hsdpa and umts while using my simore black1 adapter...if hsdpa is enabled the connection always broke down
it show the symbol that the signal is good and after 30-60seconds my xperia search for signal...endlessly...
i dont know if that is a problem with one of my sims (but without the sim adapter they both connect to hsdpa) or if that is a problem of simore
i think the last one
It's the sim adaptor.
My old one does EXACTLY the same thing. It attempts to get a H or 3G lock, then loses the signal and recycles back again. It sounds like simore are just the same as the £6 one that I got from eBay 2-3 years ago.
I just cannot understand why it's so problematic to build a sort of cartridge (like those dual-SIM adapters) with two EEPROM of Flash elements inside and sell it together with a USB SIM reader-writer?
So any basic user could copy his/her two SIMs to this cartridge and skip all the mess with improper cutting and loosing two SIMs?
AFAIK any SIM could be fully read. Why it cannot be simply copied?
I've got very cheap dual sim adaptor (11th generation) and it fully works in new itje's ROM. I also copied STK from this ROM to memory card and tried it in older itje's ROM Touck-It 4.0 RC1.1 I could connect to internet via HSDPA and simply switch SIMs, so you don't need too expensive SIMORE adaptor.
Edit: I have tested internet connection short time and I didn't have signal lost, I'm out of credit right now but I will report more after I'll top-up and do more tests.
(sorry for my poor english)